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2012-01-26 01:13:47 PM
Is Jon going to address this article on his show tonight?
 
2012-01-26 01:13:55 PM

masintenn: The reality is that nobody wants to pay more taxes. The liberal elites just think they can spend your money "more wisely" than you can yourself.


What?! With all the home-schooled CPAs we have out there?! Who could look at our untapped fount of genius called the American public and not see an infinite supply of wisdom? What pencil-pusher would dare think they could help these rugged, individualist savants? By the way, you may wanna log off, I think Steve Wilkos is on soon...
 
2012-01-26 01:14:29 PM
Goddamn, the stupid wafting off that column could trigger an EPA investigation.


GWLush: This stupid article misses the point. Jon Stewart wasn't criticizing Romney for being rich. He was criticizing him for fighting to keep the tax rate low on people like him. Jon Stewarts wealth has nothing to do with the argument. That is like saying because I am white I can't criticize other whites for being racist.


Diogenes: Stewart goes on to blast Romney for having lobbied against tax reform that would have been detrimental to his personal holdings, but the fact is Stewart benefits from the tax laws too, and as such should have disclosed the same.

Has Stewart lobbied against tax reform? No? Then STFU.

There are plenty of rich people who've acknowledged the unfair and uneven tax burden. You don't have to give up all your worth and don sackcloth in order to support fairness in the tax code.



These.
And FFS, the awkwardly over-effusive assurances by the author that he's fan? The moron doth protest too much, methinks.
 
2012-01-26 01:14:30 PM
Why all the hate? If I were fortunate enough to have well-off parents, because they made good decisions, and I also became well-off due to good decisions, and paid taxes according the the "rules," should I be set on fire?

There may be other reasons why I should be set on fire, but not because I'm successful.

/I wish I were rich!
 
2012-01-26 01:14:35 PM

James!: pwhp_67: Fubini: pwhp_67: How so?

Most of Romney's money comes from Capital Gains which is only taxed at 15%.

Jon's money isn't coming from investments, it's coming from salary.

So please, continue with your well thought out observations and enlighten the rest of us.

I believe the "make believe" comment is referencing how the author of TFA tries to equate Stewart's and Romney's positions.


OK. I honestly had no idea what his comment was supposed to mean...

Misunderstand and attack is the fark way.



You think that was an attack? I didn't even use any FARK buzzwords...
 
2012-01-26 01:15:09 PM
*a fan
 
2012-01-26 01:15:14 PM

LasersHurt: I like how they STILL don't get that it's not about being rich.


THIS
 
2012-01-26 01:15:59 PM
However, that's only part of the picture. Stewart is also estimated to have a net worth of $80 million. Depending on how he is invested, he is also earning a substantial income from his $80 million nest egg. Even if he is invested conservatively, he's likely earning investment income of $4 million per year, which would be taxed at a rate equal to Romney's. Indeed, between investment income and book royalties, and his salary, more than likely Stewart earns more money in the fiscal year than Romney despite paying a marginally higher tax rate.

Maybe. Probably. I'm guessing. This is just an claim that wasn't researched and I wish it to be true. I'm merely trying to slander this person. I have no evidence to validate my assumptions. Please don't attempt to verify my accusations.
 
2012-01-26 01:16:10 PM

MaxxLarge: I honestly can't think of many
But him who deserve every penny.
He earns his remittance.
Fifteen is a pittance!
I hope he gets bumped up to twenty.


Nice limerick, now review Wolfenstein.
 
2012-01-26 01:16:39 PM
Jon Stewart has said on the Daily Show that he makes way too much money for what he does and that he'd gladly pay more tax if it were required. I've heard him say it more than once during an interview with a guest.

The argument against Stewart wouldn't make any sense even if Stewart did everything he could to legally hold on to his money, because there's nothing immoral, hypocritical or unethical about protecting your wealth with the systems in place designed to allow those who have a lot of money to do just that.

Where the hypocrisy would come in would be if Stewart were arguing that he deserved to be taxed less because he's wealthy or had lobbied legislators to put provisions in tax codes to lower the amount he'd pay... which is exactly what many rich Republicans (including Mitt Romney) have done in the past.

What galls me the most about this sort of argument is that it's usually the Republicans who are that it's OK to squash the impoverished and the needy so that others can take advantage and become wealthy, since that's part of the American Dream. But try to be rich AND insist that you pay your fair share of tax? Republicans somehow equate that with villainy.
 
2012-01-26 01:17:18 PM

masintenn: The reality is that nobody wants to pay more taxes. The liberal elites just think they can spend your money "more wisely" than you can yourself.


Maybe people may not always want to pay more for anything, but sometimes people understand that to get a quality product (which includes a quality society and nation), sometimes you have to pay for it. It won't just materialize because you wish it to be so, and if it is not compulsory, then some people won't pitch in their fair share.

Romney is an example of the latter, he wants a base of people he can hire to do work, but will not spend a penny more than he has to. That's natural, why would anyone treat government as a voluntary charity? So the government has to see how much it costs to provide the nation with the things it needs. Some things work better when there's a basic standard that everyone can have access to (roads, schools, police, defence, and health care should be on that list). So once those costs are compiled, then you look at the taxable base and ask how best to achieve that number from the people available while creating the least collateral damage.

EX. If someone is making little money, and cannot afford the basics as is, draining what they have left prevents them from improving their station through education, health care, or better eating. That person then ends up with serious illnesses, which cost society as a whole; they end up less able to work a regular schedule depleting the taxable income from the individual and decreasing the efficiency of the work force... double whammy. Without education we end up with more trash collectors and fewer innovators, entrepreneurs, and therefore fewer actual job creators(not wealthy folks but real job creators).
 
2012-01-26 01:17:59 PM
Of course the article was written by an idiot. It says so in the first sentence.
 
2012-01-26 01:18:13 PM

chimp_ninja: ginandbacon: Subby is really stupid.

Not nearly as stupid as this:

kingoomieiii: GWLush: That is like saying because I am white I can't criticize other whites for being racist.

Accusing whites of being racist is the truest racism.

Illiterate troll is illiterate.


Are you being serious? Because that post wasn't trolling, it was sarcastic.
 
2012-01-26 01:18:40 PM

machoprogrammer: He had to work for it, but "work his ass off" implies something similar to a small business owner working 16 hour days. Not just "told some silly jokes and got famous".



It's 2012; How can you not have any idea the amount of work hosting your own show involves?

Not to mention the work he had to do in order to even get to host that show...
 
2012-01-26 01:18:54 PM

machoprogrammer: Hey, I do not find Jon Stewart funny, but I am on his side here. I was just saying the person who said he worked hard to get where he is was stupid. Please read what I said.


Yeh, other than killing Craig Kilborn, what exactly did Jon Stewart have to do to get his gig?
 
2012-01-26 01:18:55 PM
This just in: host of highly popular comedy show makes a lot of money!!
 
2012-01-26 01:19:02 PM

Brunette Farkette: If I were fortunate enough to have well-off parents, because they made good decisions, and I also became well-off due to good decisions...


Yeah, way to intelligently determine which egg to fertilize.
 
2012-01-26 01:19:08 PM
Royone:

Is there any particular reason why you decided to completely fabricate words which I didn't type, and then present them as though they were my own? You did it in Fark's standard "direct quote" format at 2012-01-26 01:11:24 PM, if you need a reference.
 
2012-01-26 01:19:13 PM

csi_yellowknife: Jon Stewart makes $15 million a year. This means Romney is automatically President and nobody has to listen to the liberal media lecture us on income inequality ever again SHUTUP SHUTUP SHUTUP IT'S NOT THE SAME THING BECAUSE I SAID SO HE'S NOT A HYPOCRITE BECAUSE HE CAN'T BE HE'S JUST A COMEDIAN.

Geez Jon Stewart cultists, get over yourself. He's funny and all, but on this issue he's throwing rocks in his own glass house -- it just doesn't cost as much as Romney's house(s).


Mitt Romney made millions, paid 13-15% in taxes, wants to enact legislation to lower that tax rate even more for people like him, wants to increase tax rates for poor and middle class people.

Jon Stewart made millions, paid considerably more than 15% in taxes, wants rich people like him to pay more in taxes.

Do you see the difference yet?
 
2012-01-26 01:19:37 PM
So this is what political mudslinging has degraded to, critizing political personalities for being rich?

PS. That article had no evidence to backup its claim. What was it claiming again?
 
2012-01-26 01:19:45 PM

Agneska: Liberals (again): "Waahhh Romney still rich. Wahh Why me still so poor and stupid?"

Wahhh


Demographically speaking, conservatives tend to be both poorer and stupider than liberals.
 
2012-01-26 01:20:34 PM
So basically Stewart criticizes Romney for promoting policies that would lower his own taxes while calling for poor people to pay more. At the same time Stewart is critical of how little the wealthy pay in taxes, and advocates raising taxes on the wealthy. Also Jon Stewart is wealthy and would be relatively less well-off with the policies that he is advocating and better off with the ones he is criticizing.

And that makes Stewart a hypocrite?

No, not even close.

Romney's policies would directly benefit him financially so it is definitely fair to ask whether his policies are motivated by selfishness or whether he actually believes that it would serve the greater good.

Stewart is critical of Romney's policies in spite of the fact that they would directly benefit Stewart. It would be hard to sat that Stewart's motivation is selfish.

Remember folks, the debate here isn't whether or not it is ok to be wealthy and be successful. The question has to do with the contribution to the public good of each citizen relative to their ability to pay.
 
2012-01-26 01:20:37 PM
I also called this last week - the more desperate things get for the right, the more right-wing troll alts start showing up. The pattern continues unabated.
 
2012-01-26 01:20:51 PM

beta_plus: every dollar romney doesn't pay in taxes is one dollar liberals don't have to make my life worse


How does Romney paying taxes hurt you?
 
2012-01-26 01:21:33 PM

THX 1138: s there any particular reason why you decided to completely fabricate words which I didn't type, and then present them as though they were my own?


Yes. Yes there is. Thank you for asking.
 
2012-01-26 01:21:53 PM

Wendy's Chili: beta_plus: every dollar romney doesn't pay in taxes is one dollar liberals don't have to make my life worse

How does Romney paying taxes hurt you?


Well you see, Liberals,
 
2012-01-26 01:22:19 PM
ignatius_crumbcake

Demographically speaking, conservatives tend to be both poorer and stupider than liberals.


And they don't "get" Jon Stewart's jokes, either.
 
2012-01-26 01:22:50 PM

ChewbaccaJones: People complaining about Romney because he is paying 14% in taxes and is completely against the idea that he, or anyone who makes their money through investments should pay an equal % to those that earn that money via a paycheck.


Read about "Carried Interest" Romeny was paying only 15% (or whatever it was at the time) on his salary at Bane. It's a total scam. People who work for PE get paid in carried interest where they get paid in carried interest that technically has zero value and is not taxed at all at first and then when taxed he only pays capital gains.

In fact he even passed 100 million to his children tax free (bain paid no taxes, he paid no taxes, no estate or gifting tax) using the same loop hole.
 
2012-01-26 01:23:07 PM

An-Unnecessarily-Long-Name: John Stewart worked his ass off? AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

No-

I bet he shelters as much as he can from taxes too. I dont blame him.

Does Farklib elites think he should pay 7 Mil in taxes?


I don't think anybody blames somebody for taking as many deductions as possible (as long as they are legitimate and legal).
/But maybe you misses point?
 
2012-01-26 01:23:23 PM
FTA:
"Here's the problem: According to celebritynetworth.com, Stewart earns $15 million per year as his salary on "The Daily Show." We can assume, because that is a job, he pays closer to the 30 percent rate than Romney's 13.9 percent.

However, that's only part of the picture. Stewart is also estimated to have a net worth of $80 million. Depending on how he is invested, he is also earning a substantial income from his $80 million nest egg. Even if he is invested conservatively, he's likely earning investment income of $4 million per year, which would be taxed at a rate equal to Romney's. Indeed, between investment income and book royalties, and his salary, more than likely Stewart earns more money in the fiscal year than Romney despite paying a marginally higher tax rate."

So let's see... Romney's takes were 13.9% on roughly $20 million, right?
$2.78 million.

Now, using the article's numbers, let's take 30% of $15 million:
$4.5 million
PLUS 13.9% of $4 million:
$556,000

For a grand total of $5 million paid by Stewart, who is NOT trying to get lower taxes, vs. $2.78 million paid by Romney who is also worth 3 times as much as Stewart.

Where's the hypocrisy here in the man paying almost twice as much in taxes being fine with his tax burden?
 
2012-01-26 01:23:38 PM
This thread makes the baby jesus cry.
 
2012-01-26 01:23:51 PM

EyeballKid: Brunette Farkette: If I were fortunate enough to have well-off parents, because they made good decisions, and I also became well-off due to good decisions...

Yeah, way to intelligently determine which egg to fertilize.


Hmm, my parents obviously picked the right egg (me!), but I didn't have any conrtol over being my mother's egg.
 
2012-01-26 01:24:17 PM
John Stewart works for a living. Mitt Romney collects investment income, and pays a much lower tax rate on it to boot.
 
2012-01-26 01:24:29 PM
I will never say that rich people (as a class) don't pay enough in taxes. Lower them, if you want...35% seems like a hoggish-size piece of the pie for the government to be able to claim.

However, when talk of raising revenue starts, I have zero respect for someone who makes 50 million per year to point at the guy struggling to support his family on 30k per year and whine that he has no skin in the game. That's bullshiat. When gas goes up 8 cents a gallon and the price of Mac and cheese and hot dogs goes up, what's it to Romney? But this other schmuck wonders if his paycheck will stretch enough for him to make his commute to work every day and still allow him to buy food. Meanwhile he hopes like hell his kids don't get sick.

Stewart understands that this whole idea of "sharing the burden" is bullshiat. Romney does not. Stewart would never be such an asshat as to tell someone who was unemployed, "hey, so am I!" As though they were on some sort of level playing field. Nor does Stewart elevate himself as a "job creator" and feel entitled to a lower tax rate than a teacher, fireman or soldier.
 
2012-01-26 01:24:32 PM

Brunette Farkette: Why all the hate? If I were fortunate enough to have well-off parents, because they made good decisions, and I also became well-off due to good decisions, and paid taxes according the the "rules," should I be set on fire?

There may be other reasons why I should be set on fire, but not because I'm successful.

/I wish I were rich!


If you haven't been paying attention, Mittens has been saying that he's a good boy because he pays all of his 15% taxes. And he's patriotic because he doesn't pay a penny more than required.

However, his company (along with a few others) spent millions upon millions in 2007 lobbying against a bill that would have raised his taxes to the normal 30%ish.

So, he's a good boy and patriotic American because he spends lots of money making sure his taxes don't go up to the same amount the average American making, say $60k, has to pay. Yet he says he "understands" the middle class. He doesn't understand shiat about the middle class. He wants the middle class to carry all of the tax burden because the Top 1% is the "job creators".

It's sickening.
 
2012-01-26 01:24:59 PM
And I meant Jon Stewart, not John. Although if the Green Lantern makes a ton of cash, more power to him.
 
2012-01-26 01:25:16 PM

SuperTramp: ignatius_crumbcake Agneska: Liberals (again): "Waahhh Romney still rich. Wahh Why me still so poor and stupid?"

Wahhh

Demographically speaking, conservatives tend to be both poorer and stupider than liberals.

And they don't "get" Jon Stewart's jokes, either.


I fixed your post for you, darling. It looks like you forgot to quote the original post that I wrote XOXO ;*
 
2012-01-26 01:25:19 PM
control*
FTFM
 
2012-01-26 01:25:27 PM

John Ra: So this is what political mudslinging has degraded to, critizing political personalities for being rich?

PS. That article had no evidence to backup its claim. What was it claiming again?


The only non-hypocritical position anyone can have on taxation is rich people should pay less.
 
2012-01-26 01:26:14 PM

Brunette Farkette: Why all the hate? If I were fortunate enough to have well-off parents, because they made good decisions, and I also became well-off due to good decisions, and paid taxes according the the "rules," should I be set on fire?

There may be other reasons why I should be set on fire, but not because I'm successful.

/I wish I were rich!


The "hate' is because he is whining about the rules and trying to pay an even LOWER share than he does. Incidentally, he's paying a lower percentage than my wife and I, raising 3 kids and earning about $65,000 a year. Just slightly more than Mitt earns in a DAY. And I have to listen to his whiny ass tell me how he has it rough?
 
2012-01-26 01:26:33 PM
Well, that was really dumb.
 
2012-01-26 01:26:59 PM

LasersHurt: machoprogrammer: He had to work for it, but "work his ass off" implies something similar to a small business owner working 16 hour days. Not just "told some silly jokes and got famous".

No, that's an arbitrary landmark you set to bolster your idiotic point which comes from a deepseated ignorance of how much work it takes to make it in Comedy. Or probably any industry you're not in.

"Teachers, work hard? PSH!"
"Doctors, work hard? PSH"
"Cops, work hard? PSH"


Also, a small business owner working 16 hours a day is doing it wrong, unless they're in their first year or two in business. Otherwise...you're doing it wrong, and you might as well go work for someone else for probably the same money, less hours, and better benefits. If you're going to be stupid and work yourself to death, well...thanks for thinning the herd.

Being a "small business owner" doesn't make you brilliant.
 
2012-01-26 01:27:06 PM
desertpeace.files.wordpress.com
 
2012-01-26 01:27:22 PM

beta_plus: If Jon Stewart and his fellow limousine liberals are so upset about not being taxed enough, they are always allowed to give their own money to the federal government.

Please send a check to:

Bureau of the Public Debt
P. O. Box 2188
Parkersburg, WV 26106-2188

/every dollar romney doesn't pay in taxes is one dollar liberals don't have to make my life worse


How are liberals making your life worse? I have to know...
 
2012-01-26 01:27:24 PM

John Ra: So this is what political mudslinging has degraded to, critizing political personalities for being rich?

PS. That article had no evidence to backup its claim. What was it claiming again?



You see, some time ago Republicans made a 'liberals hate rich people' strawman. They trot this strawman out any time a rich liberal mentions anything about taxes and claim liberals are hypocrites. Since your average Republican doesn't listen to anything liberals say, they have no idea this is a strawman, and continue to believe their own narrative. Really, if you doubt this is true ask a republican about some of Obama's policies. They will tell you what ever the narrative is, without regard to Obama's actual position.
 
2012-01-26 01:27:48 PM

RickN99: SpectroBoy: GWLush: This stupid article misses the point. Jon Stewart wasn't criticizing Romney for being rich. He was criticizing him for fighting to keep the tax rate low on people like him. Jon Stewarts wealth has nothing to do with the argument. That is like saying because I am white I can't criticize other whites for being racist.

More than that. Jon Stewart is the OPPOSITE of a hypocrite on this one. He is for raising taxes when that raise would include him. He is FOR RAISING HIS OWN TAXES!

Seems sincere to me.

He can raise his own taxes at any time by sending in a check. He is for raising OTHER people's taxes.


THAT IS NOT HOW TAXES WORK!

/that's called a donation, tard
//and he wants the rules to be fair and for everyone to follow them
///it's like saying that since rich people have more money they should be able to murder people, only spend a few days in jail until they are bailed out awaiting trial, and when they are sentenced be mandated to serve house arrest with day furlough stipulations for less than 5 years, but that they can choose to go to prison for the rest of their lives or stay on death row until executed
 
2012-01-26 01:28:11 PM

jackthezomber: who cares? he's not even funny anyway


img.photobucket.com
 
2012-01-26 01:28:17 PM
I'm pissed at Comedy Central for moving the reruns of TDS and TCR to the 6-7 pm PST slot from the 7-8 pm PST hour in favor of reruns of 30 Rock.

I work until 6 each day and don't get home until almost 7. And I rarely stay up until midnight, so I haven't seen either show since the network made the change a few months ago.

Sucks.

End tiny rant.
 
2012-01-26 01:28:28 PM

Lando Lincoln: csi_yellowknife: Jon Stewart makes $15 million a year. This means Romney is automatically President and nobody has to listen to the liberal media lecture us on income inequality ever again SHUTUP SHUTUP SHUTUP IT'S NOT THE SAME THING BECAUSE I SAID SO HE'S NOT A HYPOCRITE BECAUSE HE CAN'T BE HE'S JUST A COMEDIAN.

Geez Jon Stewart cultists, get over yourself. He's funny and all, but on this issue he's throwing rocks in his own glass house -- it just doesn't cost as much as Romney's house(s).

Mitt Romney made millions, paid 13-15% in taxes, wants to enact legislation to lower that tax rate even more for people like him, wants to increase tax rates for poor and middle class people.

Jon Stewart made millions, paid considerably more than 15% in taxes, wants rich people like him to pay more in taxes.

Do you see the difference yet?


It's frightening that people can't or refuse to see the obvious difference.
 
2012-01-26 01:28:42 PM
According to Romero, Hollywood liberals are some of the biggest captialists on the planet when it comes to themselves.

Now excuse me. I have to make another movie on location (which also happens to be a tax haven).

/Enjoy your cheap ticket prices and popcorn.
 
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