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(Yahoo)   Jon Stewart makes $15 million a year. This means Romney is automatically President and nobody has to listen to the liberal media lecture us on income inequality ever again   (news.yahoo.com) divider line 564
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2012-01-26 12:52:49 PM  

tlchwi02: doesn't the fact that he blasts romney even though he himself benefits from the low tax rates make his argument more compelling?


Being pro-conservative would make his argument more compelling, you stupid head.
 
2012-01-26 12:52:50 PM  
That article reinforces the idea that Republicans just don't get it.

We don't care if people make a million, 10 million, a billion, or even 10 billion dollars in a year. What we care about is a fair shake. When we have people making 10 million a year paying the tax rate of someone making 25k a year and significantly lower rate than those making 60k a year there is a major issue.

Now if the article came out and proved that JS was being taxed only 12% on all of his earnings then he would be a Hypocrite. The fact is that he is most likely being taxed around twice (or more) what Romney is being taxed.
 
2012-01-26 12:52:52 PM  
John Stewart worked his ass off? AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

No-

I bet he shelters as much as he can from taxes too. I dont blame him.

Does Farklib elites think he should pay 7 Mil in taxes?
 
2012-01-26 12:53:33 PM  

pwhp_67: James!: We can assume, because that is a job, he pays closer to the 30 percent rate than Romney's 13.9 percent.

And then the author traipses off into the land of make believe.


How so?

Most of Romney's money comes from Capital Gains which is only taxed at 15%.

Jon's money isn't coming from investments, it's coming from salary.

So please, continue with your well thought out observations and enlighten the rest of us...


oh, so that's why Romney wants to eliminate the tax on Capital Gains. A man with such selfless interests gets my vote.
 
2012-01-26 12:53:37 PM  

imontheinternet: If he pays a fair tax rate, who cares how much Jon Stewart makes? Americans don't hate people for being rich. They hate rich people, who don't pay the same tax rates as people who actually work for a living, then go crying to the government for more tax breaks and bailouts.


and they peg that level of richitude at $200,000 for an individual, $250,000 for a married couple.
 
2012-01-26 12:53:43 PM  
Stew Beef does a show in front of an audience four days a week, searching for material, developing jokes, and entertaining people. That's a shiate ton of work

He also doesn't COME from wealth like Romeny, he earned it all himself
 
2012-01-26 12:53:54 PM  

An-Unnecessarily-Long-Name: John Stewart worked his ass off? AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

No-

I bet he shelters as much as he can from taxes too. I dont blame him.

Does Farklib elites think he should pay 7 Mil in taxes?


Not sure if stupid or troll. Or stupid troll, always an option.
 
2012-01-26 12:53:54 PM  

pwhp_67: James!: We can assume, because that is a job, he pays closer to the 30 percent rate than Romney's 13.9 percent.

And then the author traipses off into the land of make believe.


How so?

Most of Romney's money comes from Capital Gains which is only taxed at 15%.

Jon's money isn't coming from investments, it's coming from salary.

So please, continue with your well thought out observations and enlighten the rest of us...


You restated my point as though you understood it and then pretended you didn't. Weird.
 
2012-01-26 12:53:55 PM  

machoprogrammer: Marcus Aurelius: Jon Stewart made his money by working his ass off.

What? He is an entertainer. Which basically means he was lucky to get discovered.

That said, the article is retarded.


Yes, he's an entertainer, but he wasn't born into a famous family of entertainers. He wasn't guaranteed success or fame, he had to work for it. I'm not white-knighting the guy, because I have my own cute, sarcastic Jew to sleep with, but just because Jon Stewart makes his money in the entertainment industry doesn't mean he didn't have to work for it. That's kind of a lame-ass argument to make on your part. I mean, even Ben Stiller had to work his ass off for what he got, and he was born to two really famous people.
 
2012-01-26 12:53:56 PM  

SpectroBoy: More than that. Jon Stewart is the OPPOSITE of a hypocrite on this one. He is for raising taxes when that raise would include him. He is FOR RAISING HIS OWN TAXES!


That just completely blows the minds of Republicans everywhere. They cannot compute that.
 
2012-01-26 12:54:38 PM  

skullkrusher: imontheinternet: If he pays a fair tax rate, who cares how much Jon Stewart makes? Americans don't hate people for being rich. They hate rich people, who don't pay the same tax rates as people who actually work for a living, then go crying to the government for more tax breaks and bailouts.

and they peg that level of richitude at $200,000 for an individual, $250,000 for a married couple.


That sounds like an honest interpretation.
 
2012-01-26 12:54:39 PM  
FTA: "Even if he is invested conservatively, he's likely earning investment income of $4 million per year, which would be taxed at a rate equal to Romney's. "

Yes, (long term) capital gains are taxed at 15% which is the same amount as Romney paid on EVERYTHING he earned, not just his cap gains.
 
2012-01-26 12:54:42 PM  
Okay, so in exchange for his $15 million he must be generating a few times that in ad revenue each year, right? So he works for his money, generates profits for the company, and pays 30% taxes.

Romney's on the other side. His $21 million was the profits from people like Jon Stewart working hard all year. In exchange for not laboring to generate his income he got to pay a lower tax rate than any of the people generating his profits.

I know Romney types will claim their income has been subject to double taxation, but so has yours. If the company didn't have a 35% corporate tax rate there might be more money left over to pay you. Or hire more people.

Sometimes I wish we were a rent state instead of a tax state. If you don't know what I meant by that stay out of economic discussion.
 
2012-01-26 12:54:53 PM  
Dear gods, okay...

One last time:

This is not about wealthy people. Wealth is not an evil thing. Money is not an evil thing.

What people are pissed about is the fact that there are wealthy people at the top of the pyramid and they're using their wealth to buy off the government so that they can rig the game. They're changing the rules mid-game so that those people in the middle can't go higher and those at the bottom 'stay' on the bottom.

They're short-circuiting the American promise and they're doing it for a small bit of short-term profit.

People are mad because it's no longer a given that if you work hard, educate yourself, suffer and sacrifice in the short term, your kids will have a better life than you did.

People are mad because those wealthy people who are doing all of this are turning around and complaining about how much they have to pay in taxes and expect us to feel sympathy for them.

It's the arrogance, the blissful ignorance of their station and their complete disconnect from the rest of their countrymen.

If you have the ability and drive to get rich, that's wonderful, that's honestly what the American Dream is all about. But, you can't turn around once you get rich and rip the rungs off the ladder so that you have something to use to climb higher on that ladder and expect those below you not to get super-pissed.
 
2012-01-26 12:55:25 PM  
goddammitsomuch!

30% of 15M is 4.5M
15% of 4M is 0.6M

So Jon pays a total of 5.1M on his total 19M income.

5.1 is about 26.8% of 19, so OMFG Jon Stewart's effective tax rate is 26.8%!!1!

Weighted averages, how the fark do they work?
 
2012-01-26 12:55:30 PM  
The author seems to think Jon Stewart's argument is that nobody should ever be wealthy.
 
2012-01-26 12:55:48 PM  

Lando Lincoln: SpectroBoy: More than that. Jon Stewart is the OPPOSITE of a hypocrite on this one. He is for raising taxes when that raise would include him. He is FOR RAISING HIS OWN TAXES!

That just completely blows the minds of Republicans everywhere. They cannot compute that.


The author isn't even a Republican, he's just stupid.
 
2012-01-26 12:55:55 PM  
The guy is a fan of the show but he has to cite Huffingtonpost for details of the show? Does he not have eyeballs and an internet connection?
 
2012-01-26 12:56:00 PM  

machoprogrammer: What? He is an entertainer. Which basically means he was lucky to get discovered.


He's said as much on his show. A lot of comedians, the good ones usually, are pretty humble about their success. Louis CK for example. They know a lot of it is luck and timing. I have no doubt Jon works hard on his show, but he also knows he could have just as easily ended up in a 9-5 like any other schmuck from NJ.
 
2012-01-26 12:56:11 PM  

crouchingturbo: Is it hypocrisy if he's promoting the idea that rich people (like himself) should pay higher taxes?

This article is retarded.


You think the right knows what hypocrisy is?
 
2012-01-26 12:56:18 PM  
You shouldn't vote for Mitt Romney because he wants to Shiat On Me.
 
2012-01-26 12:56:45 PM  
Can somebody help me out?

I seemed to have missed the part of the article that explains how Jon is in a position to set tax rates, particularly on capital gains, and where he has ever claimed that any of the tax rates that affect people in his tax bracket are already too high, should be lowered, or done away with.

I am guessing that since the author thinks Jon is a hypocrite that Stewart must be doing something along those lines.

I have no idea what though. As I watch his show regularly I've only ever heard him comment that taxes on people like him should be higher...
 
2012-01-26 12:56:49 PM  

gilgigamesh: Guys, guys:

Come on. Conservative commentators go to a lot of trouble constructing and setting up these ridiculous cartoon strawman arguments against what they imagine the point to be.

If you just come in here and knock them down like that, do you really expect they'll bother from now on?

Please, a little consideration for the strawmen, mkay?


The strawmen aren't for us, they are for the people who are oblivious to straw.
 
2012-01-26 12:56:50 PM  
who cares? he's not even funny anyway
 
2012-01-26 12:56:57 PM  
So Jon Stewart believes in the same tax policies as Romney and spends his time lobbying Congress to keep his tax rates low?
 
2012-01-26 12:57:02 PM  

SpectroBoy: GWLush: This stupid article misses the point. Jon Stewart wasn't criticizing Romney for being rich. He was criticizing him for fighting to keep the tax rate low on people like him. Jon Stewarts wealth has nothing to do with the argument. That is like saying because I am white I can't criticize other whites for being racist.

More than that. Jon Stewart is the OPPOSITE of a hypocrite on this one. He is for raising taxes when that raise would include him. He is FOR RAISING HIS OWN TAXES!

Seems sincere to me.


He can raise his own taxes at any time by sending in a check. He is for raising OTHER people's taxes.
 
2012-01-26 12:57:29 PM  

CorporatePerson: The author right wing seems to think Jon Stewart's the left's argument is that nobody should ever be wealthy.

 
2012-01-26 12:57:35 PM  

An-Unnecessarily-Long-Name: John Stewart worked his ass off? AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

No-

I bet he shelters as much as he can from taxes too. I dont blame him.

Does Farklib elites think he should pay 7 Mil in taxes?


Your own comment is internally inconsistent... that's a rare level of stupid on display even for Fark.
 
2012-01-26 12:58:12 PM  

RickN99: SpectroBoy: GWLush: This stupid article misses the point. Jon Stewart wasn't criticizing Romney for being rich. He was criticizing him for fighting to keep the tax rate low on people like him. Jon Stewarts wealth has nothing to do with the argument. That is like saying because I am white I can't criticize other whites for being racist.

More than that. Jon Stewart is the OPPOSITE of a hypocrite on this one. He is for raising taxes when that raise would include him. He is FOR RAISING HIS OWN TAXES!

Seems sincere to me.

He can raise his own taxes at any time by sending in a check. He is for raising OTHER people's taxes.


I don't know if you're trying to make a point here or just clarifying, but what I bolded above has got to be the worst argument in the history of language.
 
2012-01-26 12:58:16 PM  

pwhp_67: How so?

Most of Romney's money comes from Capital Gains which is only taxed at 15%.

Jon's money isn't coming from investments, it's coming from salary.

So please, continue with your well thought out observations and enlighten the rest of us.


I believe the "make believe" comment is referencing how the author of TFA tries to equate Stewart's and Romney's positions.
 
2012-01-26 12:58:23 PM  

SarahBW: I hate mittens but Jon's arguments about the $ are necessarily invalid.


Stewart points out Romney's company vigorously lobbying to keep the disparity in tax rates makes a difference in interpreting his take on fiscal policy as a presidential candidate is somehow invalid?
 
2012-01-26 12:58:32 PM  
This is without a doubt one of the most intentionally obtuse pieces of tripe I have ever read.
 
2012-01-26 12:58:36 PM  

TV's Vinnie: WRONG! It's the big bank he got from doing a voice in DOOGAL.


Heh. My wife scoured eBay and bought a bunch of old DVD's for our twin 3 year olds to watch, one of them being The Reef, which got put in the other night when they were being particularly shiatty tired. Couple of ads for other movies plays, and Doogal was one of them. They start listing all the voice actors, Stewart, Fallon, Whoopy, Macy, Chevy Chase, Ian McKellen and Judi Dench...pretty impressive list all told. Wife and I looked at each other and she says "Have you even heard of that movie?" I had only a vague recollection of it.
 
2012-01-26 12:58:51 PM  

wildcardjack: Okay, so in exchange for his $15 million he must be generating a few times that in ad revenue each year, right? So he works for his money, generates profits for the company, and pays 30% taxes.



How do you know he pays 30%? I bet he pays less than 25%. Anyone making millions a year has a good tax accountant.

Both of us are assuming what he pays in taxes, neither of us know. But thinking hes some alturistic hero and pays full tax rate is insanly naive.
 
2012-01-26 12:58:53 PM  
www.r3vlimited.com
 
2012-01-26 12:59:10 PM  
Is Stewart using his millions to subvert the will and well-being of the vast majority who don't make millions of dollars per year?
 
2012-01-26 12:59:21 PM  

tblax: Stew Beef does a show in front of an audience four days a week, searching for material, developing jokes, and entertaining people. That's a shiate ton of work


I am betting he "works" far less than 8 hours a day.

Coco LaFemme: Yes, he's an entertainer, but he wasn't born into a famous family of entertainers. He wasn't guaranteed success or fame, he had to work for it. I'm not white-knighting the guy, because I have my own cute, sarcastic Jew to sleep with, but just because Jon Stewart makes his money in the entertainment industry doesn't mean he didn't have to work for it. That's kind of a lame-ass argument to make on your part. I mean, even Ben Stiller had to work his ass off for what he got, and he was born to two really famous people.


He had to work for it, but "work his ass off" implies something similar to a small business owner working 16 hour days. Not just "told some silly jokes and got famous".
 
2012-01-26 12:59:44 PM  

Diogenes: Stewart goes on to blast Romney for having lobbied against tax reform that would have been detrimental to his personal holdings, but the fact is Stewart benefits from the tax laws too, and as such should have disclosed the same.

Has Stewart lobbied against tax reform? No? Then STFU.

There are plenty of rich people who've acknowledged the unfair and uneven tax burden. You don't have to give up all your worth and don sackcloth in order to support fairness in the tax code.


Also, I'm pretty sure Stewart hasn't gone out pandering for votes and trying to position himself like he's an "average American" and "knows what it's like to be unemployed" like Mittens has. If you're complaining about being unemployed while also having a net worth of $250 million, you're not unemployed -- you're a douchebag. And THAT'S where Stewart is calling Romney out.

Additionally, Stewart wasn't one of the primary lobbyists who paid off Congress to keep the capital gains rates down at 15%. Romney was.

I hope people are smart enough to see the difference here.
 
2012-01-26 12:59:50 PM  

jackthezomber: who cares? he's not even funny anyway


If you're going to be a troll, be clever. If you're going to be a shill, be accurate. You have failed to achieve either quality, so please shut up.
 
2012-01-26 01:00:06 PM  

SarahBW: I hate mittens but Jon's arguments about the $ are necessarily invalid.


And why is that? Please elaborate. With charts and graphs, if possible...
 
2012-01-26 01:00:14 PM  
We get it, he's black a jew.
 
2012-01-26 01:00:24 PM  
Wait until the all-volunteer staff at Fox News hears about this!


/I'm presuming they're volunteers, since they're clearly not professionals.
 
2012-01-26 01:00:30 PM  
Hollywood types usually get paid a lot. I don't like it but that is how Hollywood works. But politicians should not be getting wealthy off of their power.
 
2012-01-26 01:00:34 PM  
I don't care what someone makes, I just ask that those with the means to pay more.

You may have "Fark you" money, that doesn't mean you get to ignore your obligations and try to weasel out of supporting the very systems that you made your money under.
 
2012-01-26 01:00:40 PM  
FTFA: Stewart is also estimated to have a net worth of $80 million. Depending on how he is invested, he is also earning a substantial income from his $80 million nest egg. Even if he is invested conservatively, he's likely earning investment income of $4 million per year, which would be taxed at a rate equal to Romney's. Indeed, between investment income and book royalties, and his salary, more than likely Stewart earns more money in the fiscal year than Romney despite paying a marginally higher tax rate.

This entire paragraph is speculation with ZERO facts.

i8.photobucket.com
 
2012-01-26 01:00:40 PM  
See a strawman.....set it on fire, watch it burn.
 
2012-01-26 01:00:49 PM  

Kazrath: That article reinforces the idea that Republicans just don't get it.

We don't care if people make a million, 10 million, a billion, or even 10 billion dollars in a year. What we care about is a fair shake. When we have people making 10 million a year paying the tax rate of someone making 25k a year and significantly lower rate than those making 60k a year there is a major issue.

Now if the article came out and proved that JS was being taxed only 12% on all of his earnings then he would be a Hypocrite. The fact is that he is most likely being taxed around twice (or more) what Romney is being taxed.


I don't think that would make Stewart a hypocrite. After all, he's just following the tax code as it's written.

The point is that we need to re-write the tax code.
 
2012-01-26 01:00:51 PM  

Dog Welder: Additionally, Stewart wasn't one of the primary lobbyists who paid off Congress to keep the capital gains rates down at 15%. Romney was.

I hope people are smart enough to see the difference here.


I don't think anyone ever got rich betting on the intelligence of the American populace.
 
2012-01-26 01:00:55 PM  

machoprogrammer: He had to work for it, but "work his ass off" implies something similar to a small business owner working 16 hour days. Not just "told some silly jokes and got famous".


No, that's an arbitrary landmark you set to bolster your idiotic point which comes from a deepseated ignorance of how much work it takes to make it in Comedy. Or probably any industry you're not in.

"Teachers, work hard? PSH!"
"Doctors, work hard? PSH"
"Cops, work hard? PSH"
 
2012-01-26 01:01:54 PM  
One is advocating taxes be raised upon him.
The other is advocating taxes be lowered upon him.

Hmmmm.... I wonder which one of the two obscenely rich men I'll back on this.
 
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