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		Only on the Blaze would a story about Boy Scouts of America endorsing a "No Name-Calling Week" generate such controversy, as it would presumably strip conservatives of all of their talking points (theblaze.com)		80
		More: Obvious, Boy Scouts of America, No Name-Calling Week, Boy Scouts, GLSEN, education network, LGBT rights organizations, conservatives, Executive Director Dr. Eliza Byard

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thismomentinblackhistory		2012-01-26 09:55:22 AM

jackthezomber		2012-01-26 10:52:13 AM

you wanna raise a bunch of pussies, then yeah, no-name-calling week sounds great.

bunch of whining little snots

HotWingConspiracy		2012-01-26 10:55:43 AM

Is it not enough for these people that the Scouts are already discriminatory? Are they not entertained?

Lost Thought 00		2012-01-26 10:56:05 AM

First they came for the racists, and I said nothing
Then they came for the bigots, and I said nothing...

Cletus C.		2012-01-26 10:57:58 AM

Tards.

Carth		2012-01-26 10:59:23 AM

Where do you draw the line on name calling? If there are two kids named Neil standing next to a water fountain and I want to refer to a person standing nearer the heavy one can I say "She is next to Fat Neil". Would that be name calling if he is indeed fat?

Antimatter		2012-01-26 11:00:14 AM

wow, those comments, there are some very moronic people in this world, isn't there?

It's okay, once my army of killbots is finished, all will be right with the world.

Bloody William		2012-01-26 11:01:12 AM

Carth: Where do you draw the line on name calling? If there are two kids named Neil standing next to a water fountain and I want to refer to a person standing nearer the heavy one can I say "She is next to Fat Neil". Would that be name calling if he is indeed fat?

I think if you use his real name with a modifier, you're technically just adjective calling.

Shaggy_C		2012-01-26 11:01:31 AM

Name calling is an essential part of childhood. It teaches children the importance of hierarchy, allowing them to know their place in the world. Unlike the little snowflakes of generation Y, real american children understand that not everyone gets to be an astronaut.

DeaH		2012-01-26 11:02:33 AM

Poopyheads, every last one of them. Except for the booger-breaths and the doo-doo faces.

Carth		2012-01-26 11:03:10 AM

Thorndyke Barnhard		2012-01-26 11:05:21 AM

Carth: Where do you draw the line on name calling? If there are two kids named Neil standing next to a water fountain and I want to refer to a person standing nearer the heavy one can I say "She is next to Fat Neil". Would that be name calling if he is indeed fat?

Weightism: the last socially acceptable prejudice and irrational hatred.

IXI Jim IXI		2012-01-26 11:05:27 AM

Always angling for another merit badge...

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Bloody William		2012-01-26 11:05:37 AM

Shaggy_C: Name calling is an essential part of childhood. It teaches children the importance of hierarchy, allowing them to know their place in the world. Unlike the little snowflakes of generation Y, real american children understand that not everyone gets to be an astronaut.

Alternately, it puts children into farked up social hierarchies that have little regard for social models after high school, skewing priorities for characteristics that actually have value in the real world and separating a big chunk of people into has-been townies clinging to their fond memories of abusing people and bright, awkward geeks growing into successful and personable world travelers.

But yeah, starting kids with farked up bullshiat at an early age is great, because it prepares them for things being shiatty later when they respond badly to farked up bullshiat and accept that it's the way the world is.

Headso		2012-01-26 11:05:52 AM

If you click that link you give money directly to whatever that douche's name is, can't think of it off the top of my head. He raped and killed a chick that's all I know.

Dahnkster		2012-01-26 11:06:17 AM

Someone was punching me, but I was reluctant to take my eyes from the people below us, and from the image of Atticus's lonely walk down the aisle.
"Miss Jean Louise?"
I looked around. They were standing. All around us and in the balcony on the opposite wall, the Negroes were getting to their feet. Reverend Sykes's voice was as distant as Judge Taylor's:
"Miss Jean Louise, stand up. Your father's passin'."

leemartinauthor.com

Man how could anybody get angry about Scout?

Lost Thought 00		2012-01-26 11:07:05 AM

Carth: Where do you draw the line on name calling? If there are two kids named Neil standing next to a water fountain and I want to refer to a person standing nearer the heavy one can I say "She is next to Fat Neil". Would that be name calling if he is indeed fat?

Referring to someone by a moniker which they do not wish to be called, is not tolerated in a polite society.

IXI Jim IXI		2012-01-26 11:07:34 AM

thismomentinblackhistory: [www.inquisitr.com image 450x338]

I wish I was as enterprising as those youths at my age...

(we even had a basement)

Philip Francis Queeg		2012-01-26 11:08:48 AM

Wendy's Chili		2012-01-26 11:10:17 AM

Thorndyke Barnhard: Carth: Where do you draw the line on name calling? If there are two kids named Neil standing next to a water fountain and I want to refer to a person standing nearer the heavy one can I say "She is next to Fat Neil". Would that be name calling if he is indeed fat?

Weightism: the last socially acceptable prejudice and irrational hatred.

Calling someone "fat" is only prejudice if you've never seen them.

Carth		2012-01-26 11:10:31 AM

Lost Thought 00: Carth: Where do you draw the line on name calling? If there are two kids named Neil standing next to a water fountain and I want to refer to a person standing nearer the heavy one can I say "She is next to Fat Neil". Would that be name calling if he is indeed fat?

Referring to someone by a moniker which they do not wish to be called, is not tolerated in a polite society.

I keep telling that to the people who insist on using terms like USian and cisgendered but they always ignore me.

Raharu		2012-01-26 11:10:46 AM

The Boy scouts are not what they once were. Honestly Girl Scouts is much better right now.

They are now a quasi religious, homophobic, bigoted organization now :
Don't belive me? Check out Season Pen and Tellers: Bullshiat, Season 4 Episode 1.

Heres the Youtube link Link (new window)

Also Remember to support your local girl scouts, at least they have their heads screwed on straight right now.
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MadCat221		2012-01-26 11:11:59 AM

Wyalt Derp		2012-01-26 11:12:44 AM

That is so gay.

Shaggy_C		2012-01-26 11:13:11 AM

Bloody William: Alternately, it puts children into farked up social hierarchies that have little regard for social models after high school, skewing priorities for characteristics that actually have value in the real world and separating a big chunk of people into has-been townies clinging to their fond memories of abusing people and bright, awkward geeks growing into successful and personable world travelers.

Interesting theory, but how does it account for juggalos?

Bloody William		2012-01-26 11:14:34 AM

Shaggy_C: Bloody William: Alternately, it puts children into farked up social hierarchies that have little regard for social models after high school, skewing priorities for characteristics that actually have value in the real world and separating a big chunk of people into has-been townies clinging to their fond memories of abusing people and bright, awkward geeks growing into successful and personable world travelers.

Interesting theory, but how does it account for juggalos?

Meth and Faygo?

odinsposse		2012-01-26 11:18:38 AM

Carth: Where do you draw the line on name calling? If there are two kids named Neil standing next to a water fountain and I want to refer to a person standing nearer the heavy one can I say "She is next to Fat Neil". Would that be name calling if he is indeed fat?

I think it's fine if you do something to make it up to that person later. Maybe there is a game they like that you could play together.

erveek		2012-01-26 11:19:54 AM

ytterbium		2012-01-26 11:21:39 AM

My sons are in Boy Scouts and I'm very ambivalent about the whole thing. First of all, the gay intolerance issue. Secondly, their first activity was to do a presentation on our religious practices. My sons talked about how we study all religions in our home, but have no particular religion. The other kids teased them about not being Christian, but no one stopped that.

Also, I was a Girl Scout leader for years. We taught self-sufficiency: only troop volunteers at meetings and activities. Kids need to wean off of mommy at some point. Camping: girls have to carry their own gear, even if it means hiking a mile to the bare campsite. The girls plan, cook and clean up everything.

Camping with my sons' troop: the mommies had a central canteen with a generator, and made all meals and snacks for their precious sweeties. Ugh.

Sorry for the rant, I made the boys stay home from the meeting last night.

Thorndyke Barnhard		2012-01-26 11:22:12 AM

Wendy's Chili: Thorndyke Barnhard: Carth: Where do you draw the line on name calling? If there are two kids named Neil standing next to a water fountain and I want to refer to a person standing nearer the heavy one can I say "She is next to Fat Neil". Would that be name calling if he is indeed fat?

Weightism: the last socially acceptable prejudice and irrational hatred.

Calling someone "fat" is only prejudice if you've never seen them.

That's cute and all ...but it's wrong.

leviosaurus		2012-01-26 11:22:18 AM

Teaching your kids not to bully other kids won't make them strong.

Teaching your kids to stand up to bullies who call others names, and stand up for other kids who are too weak to stand up for themselves will make them strong. That's what the scouts are trying to teach here. This isn't about asking bullies to lay off for a week, it's about encouraging kids to tell them to knock it off.

/All you internet tough guys who are biatching about how this makes kids weak can go suck it

Felgraf		2012-01-26 11:24:02 AM

One Bad Apple		2012-01-26 11:26:09 AM

bravian		2012-01-26 11:28:12 AM

ytterbium		2012-01-26 11:28:12 AM

I'm loving the GS support: my daughter gained much respect for herself and others from being involved. For me too, since at meetings, she wasn't allowed to call me mom, and she followed all rules like anyone else.

Carth		2012-01-26 11:29:21 AM

odinsposse: Carth: Where do you draw the line on name calling? If there are two kids named Neil standing next to a water fountain and I want to refer to a person standing nearer the heavy one can I say "She is next to Fat Neil". Would that be name calling if he is indeed fat?

I think it's fine if you do something to make it up to that person later. Maybe there is a game they like that you could play together.

I knew someone would get the reference

/+1 internet points to you.

IXI Jim IXI		2012-01-26 11:33:19 AM

ytterbium: I'm loving the GS support: my daughter gained much respect for herself and others from being involved. For me too, since at meetings, she wasn't allowed to call me mom,

Wow...you guys really take that "No name calling" thing seriously...

Medical Toilet		2012-01-26 11:34:43 AM

I wonder if they'll do some reporting on a particular incident from 1990.

ytterbium		2012-01-26 11:35:52 AM

leviosaurus: Teaching your kids not to bully other kids won't make them strong.

Teaching your kids to stand up to bullies who call others names, and stand up for other kids who are too weak to stand up for themselves will make them strong. That's what the scouts are trying to teach here. This isn't about asking bullies to lay off for a week, it's about encouraging kids to tell them to knock it off.

/All you internet tough guys who are biatching about how this makes kids weak can go suck it

We had this very talk last night- the anti-bully presentations at school tell the kids to tell teachers when they see bullying. I told them to stand up to the bully, except when there's physical aggression. I don't care if it's wrong, I did say it was OK to fight back if attacked.

My son was being bullied this year at school and no matter how many times he told the teacher, nothing was done. I am not the type to do this normally, but I went into the classroom and asked the teacher to step out for a moment. I explained this this will end NOW. She called the assistant principal down, he took both boys to his office, they talked it out and now it's cool.

Saiga410		2012-01-26 11:36:53 AM

Lost Thought 00: Carth: Where do you draw the line on name calling? If there are two kids named Neil standing next to a water fountain and I want to refer to a person standing nearer the heavy one can I say "She is next to Fat Neil". Would that be name calling if he is indeed fat?

Referring to someone by a moniker which they do not wish to be called, is not tolerated in a polite society.

What about, she is nearest to the Neil that weighs closest to a feak'n metric ton?

NetOwl		2012-01-26 11:41:48 AM

Sometimes the shame of being called a name can be a good thing. If there is something wrong with you, maybe you need to work on it.

Being fat, for example, is bad for you, and it makes going out in public less pleasant for everyone who has to look at you. However, many people find it easier to do just enough to feel as if they are trying to solve the problem without actually doing anything.

When the only way to end the shame brought on by constant name-calling is to do something that actually works (i.e., putting down the fork), that can spur someone into action. The reason everyone else is mean to fat people is that it is something self-inflicted yet easily correctable. Because correcting it is as easy as not indulging in mindless pleasure quite as often, well, staying fat is laziness.

fracto73		2012-01-26 11:42:18 AM

bravian: ytterbium: My sons are in Boy Scouts and I'm very ambivalent about the whole thing. First of all, the gay intolerance issue. Secondly, their first activity was to do a presentation on our religious practices. My sons talked about how we study all religions in our home, but have no particular religion. The other kids teased them about not being Christian, but no one stopped that.

When I was in the cub scouts and later boy scouts in the 80s - religion was never discussed or brought up in any event I ever participated in. And we met in a Lutheran church. Its disappointing that the boy scouts has gone down a path that was completely unnecessary.

/I also never remembered being teased in the scouts - that was strictly a school thing

I was a boy scout in the 90's and while I don't remember religion being a big part, the older kids picking on my little brother convinced me to quit. They were douchebags and at 13 I knew that these were not the kind of people I wanted to hang around with.

Instead I joined a Fife and Drum corps, learned to play the drum and got to see the world.

Koalaesq		2012-01-26 11:46:38 AM

Antimatter: wow, those comments, there are some very moronic people in this world, isn't there?

It's okay, once my army of killbots is finished, all will be right with the world.

Dear lord. I should not have read those comments; now I'm really depressed. Do you need any funding for your killbots?

Also- I love the people who say that the scouts are going downhill because now they allow gays in. I wonder what Lord Baden-Powell would say about that.

Fart_Machine		2012-01-26 11:46:49 AM

A week encouraging kids not to be assholes? The nerve of those people.

IXI Jim IXI		2012-01-26 11:48:55 AM

Fart_Machine: A week encouraging kids not to be assholes? The nerve of those people.

I'd imagine it has an exclusion for online gaming, however...

mark.jms		2012-01-26 11:49:00 AM

Raharu: The Boy scouts are not what they once were. Honestly Girl Scouts is much better right now.

They are now a quasi religious, homophobic, bigoted organization now :
Don't belive me? Check out Season Pen and Tellers: Bullshiat, Season 4 Episode 1.

Heres the Youtube link Link (new window)

Also Remember to support your local girl scouts, at least they have their heads screwed on straight right now.
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[img20.imageshack.us image 455x337]

Huh. I did not know that. Kinda makes me feel better about my eldest daughter being in it, then.

Also, bullet point #3 ("hiding" transsexual boys?) sounds like a movie/comedy premise. I'm imagining Adam Sandler's son in the titular role.

I dunno WTF the deal is with BSA. I don't recall all that through the late 80s/early 90s, but, I was the kid in it then and maybe it just didn't filter down everywhere.

I wonder if part of it is that the leadership came out of the program as kids, and maybe they just didn't grow up out of being dumb? Or did the religious folks end up taking over above/at the Council level?

My troop was based at a Roman Catholic church, and as we all should know, we're the most non-practicing folks around.

leviosaurus		2012-01-26 11:49:43 AM

ytterbium:
We had this very talk last night- the anti-bully presentations at school tell the kids to tell teachers when they see bullying. I told them to stand up to the bully.

THIS

All that "Just tell the teacher" crap is what makes kids weak. Teach them not to be afraid.

Raharu		2012-01-26 11:50:54 AM

mark.jms: Raharu: The Boy scouts are not what they once were. Honestly Girl Scouts is much better right now.

They are now a quasi religious, homophobic, bigoted organization now :
Don't belive me? Check out Season Pen and Tellers: Bullshiat, Season 4 Episode 1.

Heres the Youtube link Link (new window)

Also Remember to support your local girl scouts, at least they have their heads screwed on straight right now.
[img819.imageshack.us image 470x194]
[img20.imageshack.us image 455x337]

Huh. I did not know that. Kinda makes me feel better about my eldest daughter being in it, then.

Also, bullet point #3 ("hiding" transsexual boys?) sounds like a movie/comedy premise. I'm imagining Adam Sandler's son in the titular role.

I dunno WTF the deal is with BSA. I don't recall all that through the late 80s/early 90s, but, I was the kid in it then and maybe it just didn't filter down everywhere.

I wonder if part of it is that the leadership came out of the program as kids, and maybe they just didn't grow up out of being dumb? Or did the religious folks end up taking over above/at the Council level?

My troop was based at a Roman Catholic church, and as we all should know, we're the most non-practicing folks around.

Watch the P&T:BullSh*T Episode. The BSA has pretty much been bought out by the Mormon Church.

Scerpes		2012-01-26 11:52:50 AM

ytterbium: My sons are in Boy Scouts and I'm very ambivalent about the whole thing. First of all, the gay intolerance issue. Secondly, their first activity was to do a presentation on our religious practices. My sons talked about how we study all religions in our home, but have no particular religion. The other kids teased them about not being Christian, but no one stopped that.

Also, I was a Girl Scout leader for years. We taught self-sufficiency: only troop volunteers at meetings and activities. Kids need to wean off of mommy at some point. Camping: girls have to carry their own gear, even if it means hiking a mile to the bare campsite. The girls plan, cook and clean up everything.

Camping with my sons' troop: the mommies had a central canteen with a generator, and made all meals and snacks for their precious sweeties. Ugh.

Sorry for the rant, I made the boys stay home from the meeting last night.

I was a boyscout for all of 28 minutes. My dad took me to the first meeting. When they started their first prayer, I knew it wasn't for me and asked him if we could go. I think he was happier to leave than I was. However, the greatest gift he gave me was the opportunity to make that decision for my self.

Shaggy_C		2012-01-26 11:54:07 AM

MadCat221: Shaggy_C: Name calling is an essential part of childhood. It teaches children the importance of hierarchy, allowing them to know their place in the world. Unlike the little snowflakes of generation Y, real american children understand that not everyone gets to be an astronaut.

Sounds like you were one of the name-calling douchebag bullies when you were a youth.

So how many kids did you bully/jaw-breaking punches did you deserve?