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Military says "Operation Octave Fusion" was necessary because the American hostage had a "life-threatening condition". "Octave Fusion"? Is the guy who names new Gatorade flavors now moonlighting at the Pentagon?
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Pocket Ninja
2012-01-26 09:45:42 AM
There are openly gay people in the military now, subby. Did you seriously think that code names like this wouldn't happen? And this is just the tip of the iceberg. Mauve Mayhem, Pink Pony, Lavender Surprise ... get ready.
VictoryCabal
2012-01-26 09:54:06 AM
Still not as stupid as Operation Iraqi Liberation.
unyon
2012-01-26 10:03:22 AM
Pocket Ninja
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There are openly gay people in the military now, subby. Did you seriously think that code names like this wouldn't happen? And this is just the tip of the iceberg. Mauve Mayhem, Pink Pony, Lavender Surprise ... get ready.
I think that Osama got the Lavender Surprise.
/pronounced, 'soo preeze' like the baby snake eating guy in Temple of Doom
Recoil Therapy
2012-01-26 10:14:50 AM
Pocket Ninja
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There are openly gay people in the military now, subby. Did you seriously think that code names like this wouldn't happen? And this is just the tip of the iceberg. Mauve Mayhem, Pink Pony, Lavender Surprise ... get ready.
So much for my coming in to mention the repeal of 'Don't Ask, Don't Tell'...
/picturing Marty from Barney Miller giving a briefing & Wojo slowly turning red
//watching old sitcoms today
Gergesa
2012-01-26 10:49:34 AM
I'm bleeding gatorade!!
ZAZ
2012-01-26 10:50:03 AM
Secret operation code names should be randomly generated by people or computers that know nothing of the purpose of the operation. A former civilian employer had a group in the legal department that you could ask for a new, randomly generated, trademark-free codename.
AndreMA
2012-01-26 10:51:24 AM
"Being held hostage" is indeed a life-threatening condition.
way south
2012-01-26 10:51:37 AM
A life threatening condition known as "being a hostage"?
utah dude
2012-01-26 10:51:48 AM
"Is the guy who names new Gatorade flavors now moonlighting at the Pentagon?" yeah but it's only hydrating while cold, in a certain lab in Utah.
GoBadgers
2012-01-26 10:52:22 AM
Sounds like a prog-rock song title.
King Something
2012-01-26 10:52:30 AM
The guy who comes up with mission names is on vacation.
kumanoki
2012-01-26 10:53:08 AM
Revolver Ocelot would like a word....
Pronto_Breakneck
2012-01-26 10:54:23 AM
Pocket Ninja
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There are openly gay people in the military now, subby. Did you seriously think that code names like this wouldn't happen? And this is just the tip of the iceberg. Mauve Mayhem, Pink Pony, Lavender Surprise ... get ready.
What's gay about Gatorade?
hubcity
2012-01-26 10:54:27 AM
"Octave Fusion" is how they got those eight great Navy SEALS in that tiny little helicopter.
/just riffing on "octave". leave me alone.
JNowe
2012-01-26 10:54:37 AM
I'd be awful at naming these things. Too literal. This one, for example, would have been called "Operation Rescue a Hostage". I just think it makes it easier to tell which op is which.
TheAmazingFlightLizard
2012-01-26 10:55:40 AM
Hope they aren't thinking they need to make excuses for rescuing American hostages. I mean, I'm a soldier in Afghanistan now, but even looking at it from a civilian perspective, the portion taxes that are being paid to go to the military, that's so the military can protect you. She was just getting her money's worth.
And by the way, I'd love to be part of an operation whose name at least had some imagination to it.
I keep getting stuck with such winners along the lines of Operation: Go pick up that dude who is dying, and like, save him and stuff.
Badgers
2012-01-26 10:56:09 AM
"Octave Fusion" sounds like it would be a setting in Auto-Tune.
tiiger
2012-01-26 10:57:55 AM
JNowe
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I'd be awful at naming these things. Too literal. This one, for example, would have been called "Operation Rescue a Hostage". I just think it makes it easier to tell which op is which.
See, I would name a precision bombing strike "Op Rescue the Hostage" just to make codenames more effective. Rescue the Hostage would be OP "LGB the building on the corner of Hurka and Durka streets."
zabbers
2012-01-26 10:58:23 AM
once named an operation targeting illegal diving on protected shipwrecks Operation Holy Diver.
didn't get in trouble, but wasn't allowed to name future operations without approval from the boss.
yogaFLAME
2012-01-26 10:58:32 AM
Grave danger?
Is there another kind?
canyoneer
2012-01-26 10:58:48 AM
Yeah. Like I said in another thread: It's odd that a medical condition
in addition
to being held hostage by qat-chewing, gun-toting Somali thugs is the reason she was rescued. What, the constant threat of death, rape, torture, and death was not "life threatening" enough?
squidgod2000
2012-01-26 11:02:55 AM
canyoneer
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Yeah. Like I said in another thread: It's odd that a medical condition in addition to being held hostage by qat-chewing, gun-toting Somali thugs is the reason she was rescued. What, the constant threat of death, rape, torture, and death was not "life threatening" enough?
It's a tradeoff. The chance of the hostage dying in captivity (relatively low, since this was a for-profit kidnapping) vs the chance of the hostage being killed/accidentally shot/blown up/etc during the rescue and the chance of the mission failing.
The medical condition, the fact that they got good intel on their location after they were moved, and to be honest, timing of the State of the Union/politics is the reason they rolled the dice on a rescue attempt.
xxmedium
2012-01-26 11:04:39 AM
They were gonna go with Operation Use Your Illusion but decided against making two
discs
trips.
UNC_Samurai
2012-01-26 11:07:48 AM
When we started giving operations names during World War II, they were code names that meant nothing - "Overlord-Neptune", "Shoestring", "Matterhorn", "Carpetbagger". Now they're almost always designed with marketing and PR in mind.
Orgasmatron138
2012-01-26 11:08:08 AM
It sounds like a Japanese pro wrestling move.
Valiente
2012-01-26 11:10:42 AM
GoBadgers
:
Sounds like a prog-rock song title.
Operation Brain Salad Surgery would be
amazing
.
Who
cares
if it succeeds?
Operation Wish You Were Here and Operation Thick as a Brick? Not so much.
SoCalSurfer
2012-01-26 11:11:10 AM
Finally a greenlit one. This story is so bad ass
gaslight
2012-01-26 11:13:33 AM
A gent I knew in the forces once told me that there was a series of operations that were sort of interlocked. If one took the first letter of each word, they spelled out a phrase not overly complimentary of the general staff.
GoBadgers
2012-01-26 11:13:51 AM
Valiente
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GoBadgers: Sounds like a prog-rock song title.
Operation Brain Salad Surgery would be amazing.
[4.bp.blogspot.com image 500x500]
Who cares if it succeeds?
Operation Wish You Were Here and Operation Thick as a Brick? Not so much.
Operation Wango Tango?
remscheld
2012-01-26 11:14:57 AM
Whoever thinks of names for Metal Gear Solid titles should strongly be considered for naming our special ops missions.
NAVY Seal Team 6: Revengeance 2: The Revengening, Part One: Vengeanciscousness.
spawn73
2012-01-26 11:17:15 AM
Being a Dane I read Danish newspapers.
USA actually contacted Denmark and asked if Denmark would like their hostage rescued as well, to which Denmark answered "yeah, if you're around there anyway, also see if they have some of those funny memorabilias.".
Imagine if Denmark had said "no wai!", Team 6 comes in, kills all the hostage takers and leaves the Danish hostage all alone with 9 bodies in Somalia. That would have kinda sucked. :P
ihatedumbpeople
2012-01-26 11:21:41 AM
HAs anyone heard what this "life threatening condition" is exactly? this article doesn't say (unless i missed it), and I haven't heard a bit about what it is specifically. She's very young and was in Africa sweeping mines or some nonsense...how unhealthy could you be to undertake something like that?
jshine
2012-01-26 11:22:13 AM
Shouldn't a code-name be basically nonsensical? If it was operation "Rescue hostage X from bad guy Y.", that wouldn't be very subtle -- not much point for even having a code-name.
Valiente
2012-01-26 11:22:52 AM
spawn73
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Imagine if Denmark had said "no wai!", Team 6 comes in, kills all the hostage takers and leaves the Danish hostage all alone with 9 bodies in Somalia. That would have kinda sucked. :P
Maybe the Dane would claim to be a berserker who pushed the bullets in by hand and the Somalis would say "whoa" and let her walk out of there.
Valiente
2012-01-26 11:24:28 AM
ihatedumbpeople
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HAs anyone heard what this "life threatening condition" is exactly? this article doesn't say (unless i missed it), and I haven't heard a bit about what it is specifically. She's very young and was in Africa sweeping mines or some nonsense...how unhealthy could you be to undertake something like that?
Probably something debilitating and unpleasant like dysentery or some other parasitical disease. Someone, somewhere was tired of her shiat squirting.
Strobeguy
2012-01-26 11:24:39 AM
Worked on a corporate project in Malaysia but we didn't have a name for it.
After a self guided tour into the jungle we had our project name:
Falling Monkey....
xxmedium
2012-01-26 11:25:21 AM
spawn73
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USA actually contacted Denmark and asked if Denmark would like their hostage rescued as well, to which Denmark answered "yeah, if you're around there anyway, also see if they have some of those funny memorabilias.".
"US offers:
- 1 Hostage
- 1 T-shirt
- 1 Snowglobe
Denmark offers:
- 1 tin of individually sleeved sugar cookies (the big one not the medium sized one)
- 1 canned ham
Accept offer? (Y / N)"
kriegsgeist
2012-01-26 11:26:08 AM
The codenames for real covert operations don't have any meaning - they are randomly chosen from lists of words. The code names for PR operations that are supposed to be covered in the news have "sensible" names - or at least names that describe what they want people to think the purpose of the mission is.
ZAZ
2012-01-26 11:27:18 AM
GoBadgers
:
Sounds like a prog-rock song title.
More like when Rick Wakeman switched from prog rock to new age.
dr.zaeus
2012-01-26 11:28:54 AM
Pronto_Breakneck
:
Pocket Ninja: There are openly gay people in the military now, subby. Did you seriously think that code names like this wouldn't happen? And this is just the tip of the iceberg. Mauve Mayhem, Pink Pony, Lavender Surprise ... get ready.
What's gay about Gatorade?
[farm1.staticflickr.com image 240x205]
I'm going to have a hard time un-seeing that. Thanks.
RichieLaw
2012-01-26 11:32:51 AM
Is this the official thread for this? Or am I missing it? I would think that the successful liberation of an American hostage would have a little bit more play-time on a news aggregation website....
Valiente
2012-01-26 11:37:40 AM
dr.zaeus
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Pronto_Breakneck: Pocket Ninja: There are openly gay people in the military now, subby. Did you seriously think that code names like this wouldn't happen? And this is just the tip of the iceberg. Mauve Mayhem, Pink Pony, Lavender Surprise ... get ready.
What's gay about Gatorade?
[farm1.staticflickr.com image 240x205]
I'm going to have a hard time un-seeing that. Thanks.
Explains why "purple drank" would make a good porn title, though.
Valiente
2012-01-26 11:38:28 AM
"Is it in you?"
jmadisonbiii
2012-01-26 11:39:04 AM
GoBadgers
:
Valiente: GoBadgers: Sounds like a prog-rock song title.
Operation Brain Salad Surgery would be amazing.
[4.bp.blogspot.com image 500x500]
Who cares if it succeeds?
Operation Wish You Were Here and Operation Thick as a Brick? Not so much.
Operation Wango Tango?
Operation Wang Dang Sweet Poontang
ihatedumbpeople
2012-01-26 11:39:14 AM
Valiente
:
ihatedumbpeople: HAs anyone heard what this "life threatening condition" is exactly? this article doesn't say (unless i missed it), and I haven't heard a bit about what it is specifically. She's very young and was in Africa sweeping mines or some nonsense...how unhealthy could you be to undertake something like that?
Probably something debilitating and unpleasant like dysentery or some other parasitical disease. Someone, somewhere was tired of her shiat squirting.
Could be...but I wonder how that info got out...did they see her azz exploding via satellite?
THX 1138
2012-01-26 11:42:54 AM
Valiente:
Probably something debilitating and unpleasant like dysentery
Operation Fecal Urgency!
(actually, that was going to be the name of my band if I ever were to be in one)
aramis1250
2012-01-26 11:43:05 AM
kriegsgeist
:
The codenames for real covert operations don't have any meaning - they are randomly chosen from lists of words. The code names for PR operations that are supposed to be covered in the news have "sensible" names - or at least names that describe what they want people to think the purpose of the mission is.
And, at least while I was on active duty, each region had a range of letter combinations they could use to name operations and exercises in their AO which limited the available options. Also, several have commented on making the names more descriptive; leaving aside the questions of operational security and code names for operations, it may be easier to remember the operation if it has a distinctive, random-ish name. Operation Hostage Rescue could describe any of a dozen ops in the last twenty years, but Operation Jelly Salad would be more memorable.
poot_rootbeer
2012-01-26 11:44:11 AM
I got to test-drive the new Korg Octave Fusion at the NAMM show last week. Pretty sweet analog effects.
dude_man
2012-01-26 11:45:06 AM
Badgers
:
"Octave Fusion" sounds like it would be a setting in Auto-Tune.
I think it sounds more like something I'd do on a piano. "Here, let me play you Bach's Oratorio in Bb minor, using my newly installed Octave Fusion pedal".
Bullseyed
2012-01-26 11:47:41 AM
They had a plan to capture the bad guys alive? Why? We need to go back to the days of disproportionate response. You capture one of our citizens, we carpet-bomb an entire city. Behavioral studies show that of the "bad guys" who can be dissuaded, this will work. Won't work on the sociopaths who just want the world to burn though.
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