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2012-01-26 09:56:10 AM
I believe I've said this before, but if there is any place in your home where you cannot simply, without moving your feet, extend your arm and take hold of a loaded handgun, you are vulnerable. Far more vulnerable than you know. You might as well put up a "robbers, please don't hurt me" sign outside your house. I love these ITGs who brag about all the hardware they keep in their gun safe. Yeah, your gun safe. Good luck getting to that when I kick down your door with my Gat. Pew pew...you're smoked, pansy.
 
2012-01-26 10:47:14 AM
I have at least one gun hidden in every room of the house. Some are hidden so well that they will only be found when the house is burned to the ground and they pry the gun from my cold, dead, still-smoldering corpse.
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2012-01-26 10:50:06 AM
www.valmg.com
When seconds REALLY matter!
 
2012-01-26 10:57:12 AM
Once a person gets a pistol for each hand, how much more dangerous is he going to be if he buys half a dozen more?
 
2012-01-26 10:58:11 AM
Is that just for purchases from one dealer or does that also include private party transfers through that same dealer (buying something from out of state for instance)? I know a guy who bought a collection of old revolvers at an estate sale, it would have been really tedious for him to go back to the store once a month for two years to pick up everything (plus the FFL having to store his pistols for two years...). I'm sure that the reasoning behind it was that some politician wanted to appear tough on gun trafficing without actually having to do anything. All things considered though it sounds like a good law to put on the repeal list. Is there also a limit on buying one computer a month for fear of someone hacking into a bank's system?....Didn't think so.

There is already a federal (BATF) requirement that has the FFL fill out a form if someone buys 2 or more handguns at once or within a short amount of time (4-5 working days I think). If they're suspicious of someone buying & moving large quantities of handguns, that should be plenty to start the investigation with.

/bumped into that reg. when years ago someone wanted to sell a pair of Bulgarian Makarovs for $150
//even with shipping & transfer fees it was not something to pass up
 
2012-01-26 11:15:06 AM
Snarfangel: Once a person gets a pistol for each hand, how much more dangerous is he going to be if he buys half a dozen more?

He can continue firing without reloading.
 
2012-01-26 11:30:21 AM
RexTalionis: Snarfangel: Once a person gets a pistol for each hand, how much more dangerous is he going to be if he buys half a dozen more?

He can continue firing without reloading.


It takes just as long to drop a pistol and pull another loaded one as it does to change a magazine, with the added drawback of having to carry a bunch of extra pounds of steel. That hasn't been an advantage since the days of cap and ball revolvers.

Try again.
 
2012-01-26 11:30:54 AM
do these guns wear out or something? must be buying some pretty shiatty guns.
 
2012-01-26 11:32:10 AM
Because, let's face it: one new handgun a month just isn't enough to adequately protect yourself

Just one a month? What about Christmas?
 
2012-01-26 11:32:31 AM
Handguns for home prevention are less about realistically protecting your family and more about "feeling" safe. There are always better measures you can take than keeping a gun within arm's reach.

That said, gun limits are stupid, because you shouldn't need the excuse of defense to own or use a gun. Collectors, enthusiasts, sport shooters, and weapon nerds shouldn't have to justify their desire for a bunch of cool guns. They should just handle and store them with the utmost respect and recognition of their capabilities.
 
2012-01-26 11:32:46 AM
I'm getting a .38 special for my birthday

/with laser sights
 
2012-01-26 11:33:02 AM
Snarfangel: Once a person gets a pistol for each hand, how much more dangerous is he going to be if he buys half a dozen more?

Look, it's not like it is in the movies, OK? When you and your ex-CIA operative friend are in an all out firefight with a Mexican drug cartel, you don't have time to just reload!
 
2012-01-26 11:33:04 AM
Dear Pocket Nina, snarfangel,and all you other anti-gun nut zealots - go fark yourselves.
 
2012-01-26 11:33:56 AM
ColTomParker: do these guns wear out or something? must be buying some pretty shiatty guns.

Guns are like golf clubs. You want different ones for different distances and purposes.
 
2012-01-26 11:34:41 AM
I wet myself with fear at the very idea of someone having something as intrinsically evil as a gun. The idea that they might want to have more than one is such an overreach of human depravity that our only hope is that the government will stop these monsters and keep us and our children safe.
 
2012-01-26 11:34:42 AM
dittybopper: RexTalionis: Snarfangel: Once a person gets a pistol for each hand, how much more dangerous is he going to be if he buys half a dozen more?

He can continue firing without reloading.

It takes just as long to drop a pistol and pull another loaded one as it does to change a magazine, with the added drawback of having to carry a bunch of extra pounds of steel. That hasn't been an advantage since the days of cap and ball revolvers.

Try again.


Not if, as you said, you were holding a gun in each hand.
 
2012-01-26 11:35:01 AM
Limiting people to one per month is stupid, and it's time for a cool story bro:

Back in 2006 I bought a handgun, and a week later, this other model I had been looking for became available at my local shop, so I also bought that one.

OH NOES!!!!!
 
2012-01-26 11:35:29 AM
sky-diving wimps. one of my hands is a loaded pistol engineered to appear as a hand. reached for my car keys yesterday and ruined a good pair of dress slacks.
 
2012-01-26 11:35:51 AM
- Why do you want to buy more than a gun a month?
- Because fark you, that's why.

Seriously, that should be the answer, or at least a milder version of "mind your own goddamn business"
 
2012-01-26 11:36:04 AM
When my uncle died I bought The firearms he owned from his spouse. There were only about 7 pistols, but would this law mean I'd have to do seven separate transactions over six months?
 
2012-01-26 11:36:05 AM
Yeah, and who needs to publish more than one newspaper a week?

Let's put limits on the number of pieces of journalism you can print.

Great idea.
 
2012-01-26 11:38:12 AM
RexTalionis: dittybopper: RexTalionis: Snarfangel: Once a person gets a pistol for each hand, how much more dangerous is he going to be if he buys half a dozen more?

He can continue firing without reloading.

It takes just as long to drop a pistol and pull another loaded one as it does to change a magazine, with the added drawback of having to carry a bunch of extra pounds of steel. That hasn't been an advantage since the days of cap and ball revolvers.

Try again.

Not if, as you said, you were holding a gun in each hand.


Or rather, as Snarfangel said. In any case, I'm tailoring my response to his comment.
 
2012-01-26 11:38:14 AM
Opponents of the bill argued that it would make campuses less safe just five years after a student gunman killed 32 people and then himself at Virginia Tech.

I bet Cho would have ignored the law if it was in place 5 years ago....anyone want to bet he would have obeyed the law?
 
2012-01-26 11:38:26 AM
dittybopper: RexTalionis: Snarfangel: Once a person gets a pistol for each hand, how much more dangerous is he going to be if he buys half a dozen more?

He can continue firing without reloading.

It takes just as long to drop a pistol and pull another loaded one as it does to change a magazine, with the added drawback of having to carry a bunch of extra pounds of steel. That hasn't been an advantage since the days of cap and ball revolvers.

Try again.


www.fernbyfilms.com


Don't underestimate how COOL it looks when you have a dozen guns criss crossed Pancho Villa style across your chest.

On a semi-serious note all that extra steel might actually stop an incoming round. Think of it as a dual use body armor.
 
2012-01-26 11:39:26 AM
I usually carry three guns. One in my crotch, one on my ankle, and one in my afro. When I grab your wife to rape her while your stand powerless to stop my thuggish masculinity, it's that hidden one in the afro that always catches you off guard. You'd think a giant negro coming to get your white lady would be scary enough, but it's the gun in the afro that puts it over the top.
 
2012-01-26 11:39:46 AM
Because, let's face it: restricting people to one legally purchased new handgun a month is going to reduce gun crime.

There are legitimate things one can do to reduce the danger of guns and reduce gun crime -- requiring houses with children to have guns be unloaded and out of reach, outlawing the sale of fully automatic weapons, outlawing silencers, outlawing ridiculously powerful ammunition (I'm looking at you, .50 BMG), requiring gun safety courses as a prerequisite to owning a firearm, making it illegal for felons or the mentally ill to obtain a firearm, etc.

However, so much of this shiat seems based purely on inconveniencing those who follow the law while doing nothing to deter the people who are actually committing the crimes.
 
2012-01-26 11:40:22 AM
dittybopper: RexTalionis: Snarfangel: Once a person gets a pistol for each hand, how much more dangerous is he going to be if he buys half a dozen more?

He can continue firing without reloading.

It takes just as long to drop a pistol and pull another loaded one as it does to change a magazine, with the added drawback of having to carry a bunch of extra pounds of steel. That hasn't been an advantage since the days of cap and ball revolvers.

Try again.


That would be true if you were talking about a single pistol. He's talking about one for each hand. This isn't like the video games where you put you hands down, wait .5 seconds and come back up fully reloaded, or Tomb Raider with the spring-loaded magazine launcher in a backpack. It's a hell of a lot easier to drop two pistols and pull two more out than try to reload each one. Is it more practical? Not really, but it is easier.
 
2012-01-26 11:40:45 AM
You know how some people are constantly misplacing gloves, scarves, etc? It's kinda like that...
 
2012-01-26 11:41:09 AM
padraig: - Why do you want to buy more than a gun a month?
- Because fark you, that's why.

Seriously, that should be the answer, or at least a milder version of "mind your own goddamn business"


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Maybe the legislative branch should put a one-a-month limit on cheeseburgers, soda, alcohol, milk-based coffee drinks, cigarettes, etc. because obesity, smoking and alcohol abuse are responsible for a SHIAT TON more deaths than *gasp* eeeeeeeeeeeeeeevvvvvvvvvvvviiiiiiiiiilllllllllll firearms.

/thank FSM there's no one-a-month limit on NFA items
//yes, you can legally purchase and own suppressors, short-barrel rifles, and full-auto weapons
///damn the BATFE taking 4+ months to let me get my can!
 
2012-01-26 11:41:55 AM
It's my constitutional right to arm an entire group of criminals after I get shot in the head!
 
2012-01-26 11:42:08 AM
Ah, another anti-Virginia anti-gun headline. Here in Virginia we cherish our freedom and know our constitutional rights. If you don't like guns too bad, they are everywhere. I have the right to buy as many guns as I want.

/doesn't own any guns
 
2012-01-26 11:42:27 AM
The_Sponge: Limiting people to one per month is stupid, and it's time for a cool story bro:

Back in 2006 I bought a handgun, and a week later, this other model I had been looking for became available at my local shop, so I also bought that one.

OH NOES!!!!!


You monster!
 
2012-01-26 11:42:32 AM
Ok, if you support this then you are only allowed to criticize the government once a month. You also can only plead the fifth amendment once a month. Oh and that protection from illegal search and seizu only works once a month. re
 
2012-01-26 11:43:21 AM
I still have not heard a decent reason as to why people think purchase limits are going to slow down criminals.
 
2012-01-26 11:43:24 AM
Bloody William: Handguns for home prevention are less about realistically protecting your family and more about "feeling" safe. There are always better measures you can take than keeping a gun within arm's reach.

That said, gun limits are stupid, because you shouldn't need the excuse of defense to own or use a gun. Collectors, enthusiasts, sport shooters, and weapon nerds shouldn't have to justify their desire for a bunch of cool guns. They should just handle and store them with the utmost respect and recognition of their capabilities.


These laws are meant to prevent gun trafficking, where a front-man with a clean background check buys a bunch of guns, so he can turn around and sell them to criminals on the blank market.

Not that such laws would be very effective, since a competent front-man will have multiple "legit" identities to work with, and will know how to minimize his chances of setting off any alarms in the database registries.
 
2012-01-26 11:43:24 AM
Something the article fails to note: If you have a concealed handgun permit you're exempt from the 1 handgun a month thing. I know people who have a CHP and don't even carry. They just got it for the exemption as they're just collectors.

"I've talked to a lot of dealers and they like the state police system," Sen. Richard H. Stuart said. "They do tell me there have been some delays."

This...is BS. Nobody likes the state system. It's utterly unnecessary as there's this convenient Federal system. And the federal system works way better. 5 hour delays? Pfft. I know lots of people getting 3 days. And they're concealed handgun permit holders as well.

And it's not like the system is free either.
 
2012-01-26 11:43:56 AM
scottydoesntknow: dittybopper: RexTalionis: Snarfangel: Once a person gets a pistol for each hand, how much more dangerous is he going to be if he buys half a dozen more?

He can continue firing without reloading.

It takes just as long to drop a pistol and pull another loaded one as it does to change a magazine, with the added drawback of having to carry a bunch of extra pounds of steel. That hasn't been an advantage since the days of cap and ball revolvers.

Try again.

That would be true if you were talking about a single pistol. He's talking about one for each hand. This isn't like the video games where you put you hands down, wait .5 seconds and come back up fully reloaded, or Tomb Raider with the spring-loaded magazine launcher in a backpack. It's a hell of a lot easier to drop two pistols and pull two more out than try to reload each one. Is it more practical? Not really, but it is easier.


Have you ever tried to fire a pistol in each hand? There's a reason that professionals don't do that.
 
2012-01-26 11:43:57 AM
Recoil Therapy: /bumped into that reg. when years ago someone wanted to sell a pair of Bulgarian Makarovs for $150
//even with shipping & transfer fees it was not something to pass up


Is it wrong that I want a Mateba autorevolver purely because it was pseudo-used in Trigun and Ghost in the Shell: Stand Alone Complex?

Nerd weapon obsessions: not just for swords anymore!
 
2012-01-26 11:44:15 AM
chamblin: I wet myself with fear at the very idea of someone having something as intrinsically evil as a gun. The idea that they might want to have more than one is such an overreach of human depravity that our only hope is that the government will stop these monsters and keep us and our children safe.

This place needs an "IDIOT" button.
 
2012-01-26 11:44:27 AM
*Black* market, not blank market....

/FTFM
//Preview is your friend... Preview is your friend... Preview is your friend...
 
2012-01-26 11:45:04 AM
Bought a CCW pistol for my wife since she didn't like shooting her Ruger, bought a good-condition Tokarev for my father-in-law for Christmas, and bought a new "range" pistol for myself all within the span of three weeks a few years back.

But of COURSE there's no valid reason why ANYBODY should ever have to buy more than one handgun a month. Right?


ColTomParker: do these guns wear out or something? must be buying some pretty shiatty guns.

Different guns for different purposes. As an example that somebody who enjoys shooting as a hobby and who lives in a semi-rural area might experience:

Hunting prairie dogs/squirrels: Ruger Mk III .22lr and/or Kel-tec PMR-30 .22 WMR (ew...Kel-tec...)
Pistol-hunting deer: S&W Model 27 .357 and/or Ruger Super Redhawk .44 mag
Concealed Carry weapon: Ruger LCR .38 and/or S&W M&P .40 compact
Light-caliber range gun: Glock 17 9mmn and/or Taurus 24/7 OSS 9mm
Heavy-caliber range gun: M1911 .45 ACP and/or Glock 23 .40-S&W

So to do all of these different jobs, you've got 5 pistols at a minimum, or 10 pistols of you want even a single "choice" for each job.
 
2012-01-26 11:45:04 AM
This thread is a prime example of why we need common sense free speech control.
 
2012-01-26 11:45:12 AM
Crazy people don't need a reason why, they just know that "one more gun" may just be enough for them to avoid wetting themselves if a dog barks outside, or if Obama says something on TV that might be interpreted by "certain people", that maybe, "hey, why don't we try less violence, maybe that'll be nice", as code for "I'm taking your guns away tomorrow at 5:30 PM."

\that's why
 
2012-01-26 11:45:17 AM
Walker: Ah, another anti-Virginia anti-gun headline. Here in Virginia we cherish our freedom and know our constitutional rights. If you don't like guns too bad, they are everywhere. I have the right to buy as many guns as I want.

/doesn't own any guns


Now, THAT, my friends, is what freedom is all about. Do or not do, it's up to you.
 
2012-01-26 11:45:30 AM
Hell, if you want to buy a couple of guns a week, I don't give a damn and no one else should either. I have a few, can lay hands on them in seconds, and it works for me.
 
2012-01-26 11:45:37 AM
blondski: I'm getting a .38 special for my birthday

/with laser sights


Tactical laser sights should be outlawed. You could blind somebody with those green lasers.
 
2012-01-26 11:45:43 AM
I'll support limiting gun owners to one gun a month when people are limited to one book a month.
 
2012-01-26 11:45:50 AM
Walker: Ah, another anti-Virginia anti-gun headline. Here in Virginia we cherish our freedom and know our constitutional rights. If you don't like guns too bad, they are everywhere. I have the right to buy as many guns as I want.

/doesn't own any guns


Thank you for standing up to the rampant anti-Virginia sentiment here on Fark. Every day it's another anti-Virginia thread around here. It's relentless.
 
2012-01-26 11:46:10 AM
In this economy, firearms and ammunition are a better investment than you might think. And as others have pointed out, the difference between being a victim and saving yourself is the inclusion of your weapon into the equation.

Familiarize yourself with the weapon; carry it around the house; put it down and pick it up repeatedly to get the feel; keep it near. At the very least, take a firearms safety class.

/coffee
 
2012-01-26 11:46:24 AM
I love the example given in the article of the shooter at Virginia Tech as the reason for the "gun a month" idea. Did the shooter drive up to the campus sitting on a pile of guns to make him taller behind the wheel?

Lets regulate the people behind the guns, not the guns themselves.
 
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