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vpb [TotalFark]
2012-01-26 09:45:05 AM
He took it in the can from the Pope? Personally? Maybe it was his boyish good looks.
 
SphericalTime [TotalFark]
2012-01-26 11:41:12 AM
Lol. Surprise. It's almost like holding the hierarchy responsible to God alone leaves almost no one in charge.
 
SphericalTime [TotalFark]
2012-01-26 11:42:37 AM
SphericalTime: Lol. Surprise. It's almost like holding the hierarchy responsible to God alone leaves almost no one in charge.

Leaves no actual oversight, rather. Duh.
 
MaxxLarge [TotalFark]
2012-01-26 11:52:35 AM
Blow a whistle, get canned. Blow an altar boy, get reassigned to a church in another diocese a few states away.

Welcome to Catholicism.
 
penthesilea [TotalFark]
2012-01-26 12:03:04 PM
Obvious tag canned too?

I would've been suprised if this wasn't the situation at the Vatican.
 
DjangoStonereaver [TotalFark]
2012-01-26 12:17:48 PM
www.filmwad.com

Has no comment on advice of counsel.
 
Jake Havechek
2012-01-26 12:23:24 PM
Foolish archbishop....

Pope Hitler Youth only allows pederasty in the church.
 
Grand_Moff_Joseph [TotalFark]
2012-01-26 12:34:43 PM
MaxxLarge: Blow a whistle, get canned. Blow an altar boy, get reassigned to a church in another diocese a few states away.

Welcome to Catholicism.

This.
 
Ehh
2012-01-26 01:17:49 PM
As Martin Luther pointed out, the Catholic Church is corrupt.
 
anuran
2012-01-26 01:19:03 PM
This should not be a surprise. Defense of the Church as an institution is more important than anything else if your job is to defend and promote the Church as an institution.
 
minoridiot
2012-01-26 01:20:20 PM
Does that mean I overpaid for my indulgence?
 
The Bunyip
2012-01-26 01:22:27 PM
He should probably be happy they didn't get all Pope John Paul I on him, eh?
 
gshepnyc
2012-01-26 01:22:43 PM
I'd have thought it would have been in the Vatican's interest to pay the guy a nice retirement stipend and bundle him off to some seaside villa to keep him quiet.

Certainly these creeps are well practiced in paying people off.
 
groppet
2012-01-26 01:23:12 PM
So is Penn state using the Vatican playbook or the other way around?
 
Submitted First With a Better Headline
2012-01-26 01:23:15 PM
Still sounds like 'Not News' to me.

/sadly
 
jack_o_the_hills
2012-01-26 01:25:25 PM
I'm outraged!

www.bishop-accountability.org
 
DECMATH
2012-01-26 01:27:12 PM
anuran: This should not be a surprise. Defense of the Church as an institution is more important than anything else if your job is to defend and promote the Church as an institution.

Then props to him for putting the long-term interests of the institution above getting along for the sake of his own temporal comfort.
 
Tiiba
2012-01-26 01:28:45 PM
Rapacious ones, who take the things of God,
that ought to be the brides of Righteousness,
and make them fornicate for gold and silver!
The time has come to let the trumpet sound
for you.
 
MisterLoki
2012-01-26 01:29:48 PM
A cover up? By the Catholic Church?

Well now I've seen everything...
 
imontheinternet
2012-01-26 01:33:12 PM
OTOH, look at what the Vatican bankers have been able to accomplish with only thirty pieces of silver.
 
Dahnkster
2012-01-26 01:35:32 PM
Sour papes?
 
QuinnTheFetus
2012-01-26 01:35:53 PM
The beast will eat up the harlet and her fleshly parts
 
Happy Hours [TotalFark]
2012-01-26 01:41:00 PM
Didn't they kill a pope over investigation of heir finances a while back?

It must be true, I saw it on some conspiracy show on History Channel. They don't do autopsies on popes!

That's what I got out of it anyway.
 
fifthhorseman
2012-01-26 01:46:31 PM
Ehh: As Martin Luther pointed out, the Catholic Church is corrupt.

Look, it people haven't caught that particular clue in 2000 years, they're never going to and you may as well take their money before they do something even more foolish with it. I'm totally serious.
 
abb3w [TotalFark]
2012-01-26 01:54:36 PM
MaxxLarge: Blow a whistle, get canned. Blow an altar boy, get reassigned to a church in another diocese a few states away.

Actually, the whistleblower was also re-assigned. So there's at least that sort of consistency....
 
Olympus Mons
2012-01-26 01:55:21 PM
What do you expect from the people who knowingly shuffled around child molesters... for 100s or 1000s of years. Just another bunch of men in power wanting to stay in power
 
ko_kyi
2012-01-26 01:57:47 PM
I'd stay off of London bridges if I were him.
 
PsiChi
2012-01-26 02:02:15 PM
Speaking of whistleblowers, here's a refreshing story. If you have an electric meter, this should be of urgent interest:

Meters that Endanger: Shocking Details from a Whistleblower

[snip]

From the beginning, smart meters have had problems leading to fires and other electrical dangers. News stories have run all over the U.S. and around the world about installations leading to devastating damage.A lawsuit made available to us recently detailed just how such faulty equipment could end up attached to the electrical wiring on millions of homes. In Alabama in 2009, a Sensus engineering employee named Don Baker was fired for repeatedly alerting his management to the presence of a multitude of dangerous defects in the smart meter they were manufacturing (model iConA). As he states in the complaint he filed, this whistleblower reported serious flaws in design and functioning that could lead to electrical danger, overheating, and/or fire. In fact, the failure rate of the meters was twenty times higher than it was supposed to be, and the engineer contends that at least two house fires were the result. Sensus meters are used by utilities across the U.S. and in Canada, such as PECO, Alliant Energy, Alabama Power, and NVE.

In May 2010, Mr. Baker filed a complaint [PDF]. The type of suit is called "qui tam", where an individual alleges harm to his government. [snip]...In the complaint Baker relates in detail what makes the meters dangerous, and the allegations are damning-and alarming. A few highlights: [Meters] may fail dangerously when subjected to a sudden surge of electricity .... Meters found to contain 'flux' or loose solder residue .... Calibration equipment not properly designed .... Electric resistor component defective .... Internal temperatures up to 200° Fahrenheit .... Hot socket alarm .... Drastic overheating to the point of catastrophic failure, melting, and burning....

Cutting corners in business and manufacturing is hardly something new; the difference here is just what is at stake: this product is installed in every house in a utility service area, and the electrical current for the house runs through it. Even a half-percent failure rate can result in serious amounts of property damage, or even death, given the total number of "customers"-though this word implies a voluntary acceptance of the product, when in fact installation of smart meters has been very largely involuntary. Truly optional consumer goods actually get more testing than smart meters.
The sort of defects and failures enumerated in this suit might well have been caught with an independent safety-certification process such as Underwriters' Laboratories (UL). But these Sensus iConA smart meters, and every other type of smart meter, have never been subjected to such testing.

[snip]

Link (new window)
 
Precision Boobery
2012-01-26 02:03:23 PM
 
Ehh
2012-01-26 02:04:19 PM
ko_kyi: I'd stay off of London bridges if I were him.

I heard Roberto Calvi was a fun guy to hang around with.
 
que.guero
2012-01-26 02:14:37 PM
MaxxLarge: Blow a whistle, get canned. Blow an altar boy, get reassigned to a church in another diocese a few states away.

Welcome to Catholicism.

People are free, money's expensive.
 
AllUpInYa
2012-01-26 02:14:42 PM
Sounds like the Mafia has finally found their way into the Church
 
jimpoz
2012-01-26 02:18:43 PM
One of my ancestors was the Vatican bursar 500 years ago, so I'm getting a kick out of most of these replies.
 
Snarcoleptic_Hoosier [TotalFark]
2012-01-26 02:21:54 PM
And those responsible for sacking those who were previously sacked, were also sacked!
 
the_geek
2012-01-26 02:27:30 PM
If anyone is upset by this then I suggest you personally choose not to give the Catholic Church any of your business. That's what I do.
 
Jarhead_h
2012-01-26 02:40:33 PM
This guy's lucky they only fired him. The last guy that tried that was poisoned, and he was the pope at the time.

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Magorn [TotalFark]
2012-01-26 02:42:36 PM
AllUpInYa: Sounds like the Mafia has finally found their way into the Church

Finally? , and I say this as a born and raised RC, Since at least the Borgia popes, the papacy has, at times, been able to teach La Cosa Nostra a thing or two about the ruthless application of power
 
Goodfella
2012-01-26 02:46:27 PM
DjangoStonereaver: [www.filmwad.com image 450x276]

Has no comment on advice of counsel.


Done in six.
 
DjangoStonereaver [TotalFark]
2012-01-26 02:53:44 PM
Goodfella: DjangoStonereaver: [www.filmwad.com image 450x276]

Has no comment on advice of counsel.


Done in six.

www.ssrfanatic.com

"I hope your first child is a MASCULINE child."
 
89 Stick-Up Kid
2012-01-26 02:54:16 PM
I'm surprised he's still alive.
 
MasterThief [TotalFark]
2012-01-26 03:10:44 PM
Full Disclosure: I'm Catholic, I live in D.C., I've met Archbishop Vigano.

Color me skeptical. If the Pope really wants to demote someone, there are plenty of do-nothing jobs in the Vatican bureaucracy he can put them in. (Remember Bernard Law from Boston? Yeah, that's what he was doing. Wish he'd have gotten something a little more humbling...) Nuncio to the United States isn't one of them. In addition to serving as an accredited ambassador representing the Vatican to the U.S. government (the U.S. and the Vatican have had formal diplomatic relations since 1984), the papal nuncio is also in charge of making recommendations to the Pope - which are almost always followed - on the appointment of new bishops in the United States. And most of Archbishop Vigano's predecessors were named Cardinals after their service here.
 
tekmo
2012-01-26 03:14:17 PM
Christ works through the pope, Jesus' apostolic heir and personal vicar on Earth.

So whatever the pope did, it was obviously the proper thing to do.

www.wicketgate.co.uk
 
tekmo
2012-01-26 03:16:15 PM
MasterThief: If the Pope really wants to demote someone, there are plenty of do-nothing jobs in the Vatican bureaucracy he can put them in. (Remember Bernard Law from Boston? Yeah, that's what he was doing. Wish he'd have gotten something a little more humbling...)

Bernard Law didn't get a demotion. He got a promotion.

Yes, really.
 
Skarekrough
2012-01-26 03:34:21 PM
tekmo: MasterThief: If the Pope really wants to demote someone, there are plenty of do-nothing jobs in the Vatican bureaucracy he can put them in. (Remember Bernard Law from Boston? Yeah, that's what he was doing. Wish he'd have gotten something a little more humbling...)

Bernard Law didn't get a demotion. He got a promotion.

Yes, really.

And he got that promotion because the Massachusetts police were hours away from serving him a subpoena. His "promotion" basically was the Vatican snapping him up and sending him to Rome so that he couldn't help any more with the investigation.

Think he will ever set a foot on U.S. soil again?

...seems unlikely.
 
MasterThief [TotalFark]
2012-01-26 03:42:53 PM
Skarekrough: tekmo: MasterThief: If the Pope really wants to demote someone, there are plenty of do-nothing jobs in the Vatican bureaucracy he can put them in. (Remember Bernard Law from Boston? Yeah, that's what he was doing. Wish he'd have gotten something a little more humbling...)

Bernard Law didn't get a demotion. He got a promotion.

Yes, really.

And he got that promotion because the Massachusetts police were hours away from serving him a subpoena. His "promotion" basically was the Vatican snapping him up and sending him to Rome so that he couldn't help any more with the investigation.

Think he will ever set a foot on U.S. soil again?

...seems unlikely.

Actually, no. First, Law was appointed priest of a basillica in Rome. I'd call that a step down from leading a whole archdiocese.

Second, before he was sent to Rome, Law did testify before a grand jury in Boston that was investigating the case on behalf of the Commonwealth's AG and five state district attorneys. (PDF file at page 1-4) I don't like Cardinal Law, but I really don't like baseless conspiracy theories either.
 
DjangoStonereaver [TotalFark]
2012-01-26 03:49:10 PM
MasterThief: Full Disclosure: I'm Catholic, I live in D.C., I've met Archbishop Vigano.

Color me skeptical. If the Pope really wants to demote someone, there are plenty of do-nothing jobs in the Vatican bureaucracy he can put them in. (Remember Bernard Law from Boston? Yeah, that's what he was doing. Wish he'd have gotten something a little more humbling...) Nuncio to the United States isn't one of them. In addition to serving as an accredited ambassador representing the Vatican to the U.S. government (the U.S. and the Vatican have had formal diplomatic relations since 1984), the papal nuncio is also in charge of making recommendations to the Pope - which are almost always followed - on the appointment of new bishops in the United States. And most of Archbishop Vigano's predecessors were named Cardinals after their service here.

While it is an important job, it is a step down because he is not in Rome. And in the Church, if you're not in Rome,
or heading to Rome, you're not doing anything.

Ever since the late 80s, the Vatican has really started to micromanage things, even down to making liturgical
dicates directly to dioceses (and in some cases individual congregations). To move from a position in Rome
setting policy to a high-profile advisory position physically removed from the Papal palace is a way to punish him
without looking like they are punishing him.
 
Rheubie
2012-01-26 03:55:27 PM
jimpoz: One of my ancestors was the Vatican bursar 500 years ago, so I'm getting a kick out of most of these replies.

"These men have taken a supreme vow of celibacy, like their fathers, and their fathers before them"?
 
lonomoholo
2012-01-26 04:09:23 PM
Also relevent (NSFW language)

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lonomoholo
2012-01-26 04:11:58 PM
and again...

http://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=youtube+minchin+pope&docid=157817 1 630546&mid=CA482D070939A926F8B5CA482D070939A926F8B5&FORM=VIRE3# (new window)
 
lonomoholo
2012-01-26 04:13:59 PM
...I'm doing it wrong...

Fark it. Cut and paste into browser...
 
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