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vpb
2012-01-26 09:42:10 AM
Is the head of an NGO a public servant?
Pocket Ninja
2012-01-26 09:48:54 AM
vpb
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Is the head of an NGO a public servant?
No, but that's not important for the talking point to stick.
Linoleum_Blownapart
2012-01-26 11:01:58 AM
Anything less than $500,000/year and you just can't retain the top talent.
Babwa Wawa
2012-01-26 11:07:34 AM
Pocket Ninja
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vpb: Is the head of an NGO a public servant?
No, but that's not important for the talking point to stick.
Is it a bad talking point? $4M annually, 40 people plus contractors to maintain 15 acres seems like a damned boondoggle to me.
SphericalTime
2012-01-26 11:38:48 AM
Babwa Wawa
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Pocket Ninja: vpb: Is the head of an NGO a public servant?
No, but that's not important for the talking point to stick.
Is it a bad talking point? $4M annually, 40 people plus contractors to maintain 15 acres seems like a damned boondoggle to me.
The problem is that it's technically a privatized provider. She doesn't get a paycheck directly from the government, she's in change of a private entity that then contracts the work out, using about half government money.
This is what privatization looks like. This is what the Republican Party is generally supportive of.
Jake Havechek
2012-01-26 11:42:14 AM
Dianne Wilkerson is back?
She usually keeps most of her salary in her bra.
Babwa Wawa
2012-01-26 01:01:01 PM
SphericalTime
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The problem is that it's technically a privatized provider. She doesn't get a paycheck directly from the government, she's in change of a private entity that then contracts the work out, using about half government money.
This is what privatization looks like. This is what the Republican Party is generally supportive of.
That's incorrect. The government, like any party entering into a contract, can require disclosure and itemization of expenses incurred during the execution of the contract.
MaxxLarge
2012-01-26 01:11:31 PM
"It's true, and I have to confess...
My money is truly a mess!
So give me a call!"
(Click on "Reply All.")
Thank goodness for Freedom of Press.
beta_plus
2012-01-26 01:21:36 PM
Babwa Wawa
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Pocket Ninja: vpb: Is the head of an NGO a public servant?
No, but that's not important for the talking point to stick.
Is it a bad talking point? $4M annually, 40 people plus contractors to maintain 15 acres seems like a damned boondoggle to me.
B-B-B-But Churches!
Incog_Neeto
2012-01-26 01:24:25 PM
If you taking government money either in whole or in part your books should be open. Note the word SHOULD
relcec
2012-01-26 01:25:26 PM
SphericalTime
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Babwa Wawa: Pocket Ninja: vpb: Is the head of an NGO a public servant?
No, but that's not important for the talking point to stick.
Is it a bad talking point? $4M annually, 40 people plus contractors to maintain 15 acres seems like a damned boondoggle to me.
The problem is that it's technically a privatized provider. She doesn't get a paycheck directly from the government, she's in change of a private entity that then contracts the work out, using about half government money.
This is what privatization looks like. This is what the Republican Party is generally supportive of.
bullshiat, this is how you want to make it look. you think governemnt should be a feeding station. these are all f*cking democrats.
DECMATH
2012-01-26 01:29:04 PM
SphericalTime
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She doesn't get a paycheck directly from the government, she's in change of a private entity that then contracts the work out, using about half government money.
So the NGO gets government money? What does NG stand for again?
Persnickety
2012-01-26 01:30:16 PM
Babwa Wawa
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SphericalTime: The problem is that it's technically a privatized provider. She doesn't get a paycheck directly from the government, she's in change of a private entity that then contracts the work out, using about half government money.
This is what privatization looks like. This is what the Republican Party is generally supportive of.
That's incorrect. The government, like any party entering into a contract, can require disclosure and itemization of expenses incurred during the execution of the contract.
If this really is a private enterprise, remember that she has a fiduciary responsibility to the owners of the company to extract the maximum amount of money possible from her clients at the lowest cost to the company. When that client is the gov't who in general lacks the same "lowest cost" pressure that other clients do, it's a recipe for disaster. This is why privatization is rarely better for areas that the gov't is responsible for. Think Blackwater and Haliburton.
Gyrth
2012-01-26 01:31:13 PM
Just another day in Massachusetts politics (both parties, btw). The key is not to be surprised at the levels or depth of corruption - it's always been that way and always will be.
Giltric
2012-01-26 01:32:19 PM
Thats alot of people to maintain 15 acres.
It takes one person a couple hours to mow and weed that much land....what do the other 39 people and various additional subcontractors do for the other 4 days in the work week?
here to help
2012-01-26 01:33:38 PM
Almost two and a half million of government money to upkeep a park but if you want to use it to do anything other than participate in strictly mandated park activities (like NOT exercising your right to free speech) prepare to get your head bashed in and sent a bill for "repairs".
Thorndyke Barnhard
2012-01-26 01:34:29 PM
DECMATH
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SphericalTime: She doesn't get a paycheck directly from the government, she's in change of a private entity that then contracts the work out, using about half government money.
So the NGO gets government money? What does NG stand for again?
So does Exxon, so WTF is your point?
The following ftfa is farking hillarious though for the unfortunate choice of words:
Boston Mayor Thomas M. Menino said, "I think Nancy Brennan overall has done a good job. ... You look at the salary at some of the other nonprofits in the city of Boston, she's done
a heck of a job
managing that property."
here to help
2012-01-26 01:34:53 PM
Giltric
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Thats alot of people to maintain 15 acres.
It takes one person a couple hours to mow and weed that much land....what do the other 39 people and various additional subcontractors do for the other 4 days in the work week?
Suckle... they suuuuckle.
bikerific
2012-01-26 01:35:27 PM
Babwa Wawa
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That's incorrect. The government, like any party entering into a contract, can require disclosure and itemization of expenses incurred during the execution of the contract.
I wonder how Verizon will react when I ask them for this.
Zero Exponent
2012-01-26 01:38:30 PM
FTFA:
Boston Mayor Thomas M. Menino said, "I think Nancy Brennan overall has done a good job. ... You look at the salary at some of the other nonprofits in the city of Boston, she's done a heck of a job managing that property."
Heck of a job, Brennan.
/the article fails big time at mentioning the contents of the e-mail. How exactly did she instruct her PR rep to cover up her salary?
Bijin
2012-01-26 01:40:13 PM
Can't believe no one mentioned that fantastic quote by the Boston mayor:
Boston Mayor Thomas M. Menino said, "I think Nancy Brennan overall has done a good job. ... You look at the salary at some of the other nonprofits in the city of Boston,
she's done a heck of a job managing that property."
Haven't I heard something like that before?
qorkfiend
2012-01-26 01:40:15 PM
bikerific
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Babwa Wawa: That's incorrect. The government, like any party entering into a contract, can require disclosure and itemization of expenses incurred during the execution of the contract.
I wonder how Verizon will react when I ask them for this.
Something similar to:
"Heeheehee. Sign the paper."
AllUpInYa
2012-01-26 01:40:33 PM
Give me a quarter of that money and Jose and Paco will get the job done.
missiv
2012-01-26 01:41:12 PM
She needs a publicist, while her job is to maintain 15 acres?
Bijin
2012-01-26 01:41:36 PM
Ouch - I hadn't refreshed my browser and noticed everyone else who mentioned the same thing.
here to help
2012-01-26 01:42:26 PM
Zero Exponent
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/the article fails big time at mentioning the contents of the e-mail. How exactly did she instruct her PR rep to cover up her salary?
I think a better question is how come a glorified groundskeeper accepting public funds can afford a PR rep? Why would you even need one?
Oh right... to cover up the evil.
Give me a million bucks a year and me and my buddies will keep that park spotless and perfectly groomed.
snocone
2012-01-26 01:43:37 PM
Gyrth
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Just another day in
Massachusetts
partisan politics (both parties, btw). The key is not to be surprised at the levels or depth of corruption - it's always been that way and always will be.
And here is The Word.
Mildot
2012-01-26 01:44:43 PM
Anyone want to bet she's a Democrat???
/hehehe
snocone
2012-01-26 01:44:57 PM
AllUpInYa
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Give me a quarter of that money and Jose and Paco will get the job done.
6 goats could do the same "work".
/and give milk
Giltric
2012-01-26 01:46:23 PM
Zero Exponent
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FTFA: Boston Mayor Thomas M. Menino said, "I think Nancy Brennan overall has done a good job. ... You look at the salary at some of the other nonprofits in the city of Boston, she's done a heck of a job managing that property."
Heck of a job, Brennan.
/the article fails big time at mentioning the contents of the e-mail. How exactly did she instruct her PR rep to cover up her salary?
I thought the whole point of a non profit was to take whatever is leftover at the end of the year and pad peoples salaries so the group has no profit to speak of.
Its not like the people are curing AIDS and cancer...they're mowing and weeding 15 acres.....the city could pay a Mexican 100$ to come in and mow once a week.
Why is the mayor deflecting.
bruegel
2012-01-26 01:48:25 PM
Giltric
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Zero Exponent: FTFA: Boston Mayor Thomas M. Menino said, "I think Nancy Brennan overall has done a good job. ... You look at the salary at some of the other nonprofits in the city of Boston, she's done a heck of a job managing that property."
Heck of a job, Brennan.
/the article fails big time at mentioning the contents of the e-mail. How exactly did she instruct her PR rep to cover up her salary?
I thought the whole point of a non profit was to take whatever is leftover at the end of the year and pad peoples salaries so the group has no profit to speak of.
Its not like the people are curing AIDS and cancer...they're mowing and weeding 15 acres.....the city could pay a Mexican 100$ to come in and mow once a week.
Why is the mayor deflecting.
Kickbacks?
Debeo Summa Credo
2012-01-26 01:48:47 PM
Giltric
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Thats alot of people to maintain 15 acres.
It takes one person a couple hours to mow and weed that much land....what do the other 39 people and various additional subcontractors do for the other 4 days in the work week?
I agree that this is an outrageous use of funds and government patronage/waste to the extent funds are provided, but you can mow and weed 15 acres in a couple hours? Are you some kind of Mexican superhero?
Nexzus
2012-01-26 01:49:32 PM
I'm a government employee and my salary and expenses are searchable by my name on a Public Sector salary database maintained by the one of the local newspapers. It sucks.
BuckTurgidson
2012-01-26 01:52:04 PM
Bean Eaters' Problems.
ImperialHazman
2012-01-26 01:54:18 PM
SphericalTime
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Babwa Wawa: Pocket Ninja: vpb: Is the head of an NGO a public servant?
No, but that's not important for the talking point to stick.
Is it a bad talking point? $4M annually, 40 people plus contractors to maintain 15 acres seems like a damned boondoggle to me.
The problem is that it's technically a privatized provider. She doesn't get a paycheck directly from the government, she's in change of a private entity that then contracts the work out, using about half government money.
This is what privatization looks like. This is what the Republican Party is generally supportive of.
The bluest state in the country and somehow you can claim lefty corruption is just what Republicans want. Where is the dumbass button? You know how righties are always talking about cutting spending instead of raising revenue? Exhibit A.
ImperialHazman
2012-01-26 01:56:09 PM
Debeo Summa Credo
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Giltric: Thats alot of people to maintain 15 acres.
It takes one person a couple hours to mow and weed that much land....what do the other 39 people and various additional subcontractors do for the other 4 days in the work week?
I agree that this is an outrageous use of funds and government patronage/waste to the extent funds are provided, but you can mow and weed 15 acres in a couple hours? Are you some kind of Mexican superhero?
Ctrl-Alt-Del
2012-01-26 01:57:07 PM
Debeo Summa Credo
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Giltric: Thats alot of people to maintain 15 acres.
It takes one person a couple hours to mow and weed that much land....what do the other 39 people and various additional subcontractors do for the other 4 days in the work week?
I agree that this is an outrageous use of funds and government patronage/waste to the extent funds are provided, but you can mow and weed 15 acres in a couple hours? Are you some kind of Mexican superhero?
Voiceofreason01
2012-01-26 01:58:04 PM
Giltric
:
Zero Exponent: FTFA: Boston Mayor Thomas M. Menino said, "I think Nancy Brennan overall has done a good job. ... You look at the salary at some of the other nonprofits in the city of Boston, she's done a heck of a job managing that property."
Heck of a job, Brennan.
/the article fails big time at mentioning the contents of the e-mail. How exactly did she instruct her PR rep to cover up her salary?
I thought the whole point of a non profit was to take whatever is leftover at the end of the year and pad peoples salaries so the group has no profit to speak of.
Its not like the people are curing AIDS and cancer...they're mowing and weeding 15 acres.....the city could pay a Mexican 100$ to come in and mow once a week.
Sounds like they are paying a Mexican $100 to mow once a week, the rest is going to this Brennan woman and her cronies
Robot Eats Towson
2012-01-26 01:58:29 PM
Mother claims to have worked with a former US Treasury Sec who had to find smaller work after being kicked out for something criminal. Problem is, now that I'm looking into it,
WP says this didn't happen.
Giltric
2012-01-26 01:58:46 PM
Debeo Summa Credo
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Giltric: Thats alot of people to maintain 15 acres.
It takes one person a couple hours to mow and weed that much land....what do the other 39 people and various additional subcontractors do for the other 4 days in the work week?
I agree that this is an outrageous use of funds and government patronage/waste to the extent funds are provided, but you can mow and weed 15 acres in a couple hours? Are you some kind of Mexican superhero?
I have about 30 acres of pasture in the backyard that I mow and it takes me from around 9am to 3pm using a Lazer Z with a 72 inch deck.....I was being generous with my estimate for them being its a pseudo government entity and it takes them 2 weeks to hit the ground after jumping out of a second floor window.
/cupholders on a mower don't work for shiat unless you like really foamy beer...at 9:15 in the morning.
georgeyporgey
2012-01-26 01:59:08 PM
Gyrth
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Just another day in Massachusetts politics (both parties, btw). The key is not to be surprised at the levels or depth of corruption - it's always been that way and always will be.
Not true....Currently, Democratic Governer, Treasurer, State house, and State overwhelmingly Democratic, auditor Democratic....There are no Republicans in power, hard to paint them with the same brush.
Remember this is the state that had Billy Bulger (D) brother of Whitey Bulger (FBI top ten most wanted).
This state needs an enema....
Gough
2012-01-26 02:00:41 PM
Giltric
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Thats alot of people to maintain 15 acres.
It takes one person a couple hours to mow and weed that much land....what do the other 39 people and various additional subcontractors do for the other 4 days in the work week?
From TFA: "while separately contracting out maintenance work". Doesn't that mean 40 people to manage 15 acres, plus the contractors to do the heavy lifting?
That works out to each person "managing" 0.375 ac, or a square 128 feet on a side. That doesn't sound like a bad gig. I wonder if they are hiring.
Mongo1021
2012-01-26 02:04:38 PM
Can any of you fellow farkers find an email address for one of the reporters who wrote the article? I'd like to ask why they didn't publish the contents of the email that was mistakenly sent to the reporter.
here to help
2012-01-26 02:05:57 PM
Gough
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Giltric: Thats alot of people to maintain 15 acres.
It takes one person a couple hours to mow and weed that much land....what do the other 39 people and various additional subcontractors do for the other 4 days in the work week?
From TFA: "while separately contracting out maintenance work". Doesn't that mean 40 people to manage 15 acres, plus the contractors to do the heavy lifting?
That works out to each person "managing" 0.375 ac, or a square 128 feet on a side. That doesn't sound like a bad gig. I wonder if they are hiring.
Most of their job is likely trying to bleed more money out of the government and private donors.
urban.derelict
2012-01-26 02:06:42 PM
Did she accidentally her salary?
Submitted First With a Better Headline
2012-01-26 02:09:38 PM
Gough
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That works out to each person "managing" 0.375 ac, or a square 128 feet on a side. That doesn't sound like a bad gig. I wonder if they are hiring.
This is what I was thinking!
I need to get out and network or something. I wanna get into this whole banking off of corruption thing, but it's hard to get a foot in the door.
Gyrth
2012-01-26 02:15:03 PM
georgeyporgey
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Gyrth: Just another day in Massachusetts politics (both parties, btw). The key is not to be surprised at the levels or depth of corruption - it's always been that way and always will be.
Not true....Currently, Democratic Governer, Treasurer, State house, and State overwhelmingly Democratic, auditor Democratic....There are no Republicans in power, hard to paint them with the same brush.
Remember this is the state that had Billy Bulger (D) brother of Whitey Bulger (FBI top ten most wanted).
This state needs an enema....
All you need to do is look at the history of the state - even the last 20 years (and look at the western part of the state now - very Republican). Repubs in MA are just as bad when they're in power. Note, I dislike both parties so don't care either way.
whizbangthedirtfarmer
2012-01-26 02:18:45 PM
Has anyone else noticed, over the past few years, that calling someone "unprofessional" is suddenly en vogue? Anyone who asks a question, or shares an opinion that another person doesn't like, is quickly labeled "unprofessional"!
karnal
2012-01-26 02:22:06 PM
whizbangthedirtfarmer
Has anyone else noticed, over the past few years, that calling someone "unprofessional" is suddenly en vogue? Anyone who asks a question, or shares an opinion that another person doesn't like, is quickly labeled "unprofessional"!
I like it better when the word was UnAmerican.....
irishjihad
2012-01-26 02:22:40 PM
As the saying goes, a Massachusetts Republican would be considered a communist in any other state.
/ Went to high school with Rich Davey. Squeaky clean, but always a politician.
// CSB
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