Tatsuma: MaudlinMutantMollusk: I think pledging allegiance to Israel is a Republican party requirement

Except that it's a bi-partisan issue.

Obama is distributing a video of himself right now that basically says 'Look how me and Israel are tight, guys!'

Don't see that happening with, say, England.

That's because Muslims have representation in England.

"richest Jew in the world" is funding Newt Gingrich? All we need is some blood liable and we're set.

Newt is a tough talking zionist lap dog that can really stick it to the libs. Mozzzle toff!

Any rich person who donates lots of money to a politician always has an agenda. So what is so "shocking" or different about this? Obama's rich donors have their agenda's and Newts has theirs. As long as it's legal, SHUT THE FARK UP, go back to masturbating and get out of the grownups zone

Three Crooked Squirrels: And this is why Citizens United is such a dangerous decision. Whether you feel the decision was decided properly on the merits, there is no question that it can and, eventually, will be perverted, if it isn't being so already. With $21.5 billion, how much would he spend to get a friendly candidate to lead the Executive branch and save his gambling empire if there was merit to the allegations? $100 million? $1 billion? Who knows.

And in secret with we SWEAR no ties to the campaign even if the pac just happens to be run out of the same office as the campaign type crap with little to no disclose of who's in the pac and who their donors are and etc etc.

jedihirsch: Any rich person who donates lots of money to a politician always has an agenda. So what is so "shocking" or different about this? Obama's rich donors have their agenda's and Newts has theirs. As long as it's legal, SHUT THE FARK UP, go back to masturbating and get out of the grownups zone

I believe the point, sir, is that this should not be legal and is in fact a stark demonstration of why the Citizens United decision is bad for this country.

Tatsuma: I would like to see a video of Obama saying 'Guv'nah, I really do love a scone at tea time' while drinking earl grey with a spot of milk and a picture of the queen in the background in order to get more votes though

Only you can take an Article about a guy backing Newt and turn it into two anti-Obama posts without a hint of self-awareness.

That's a pretty poor investment.

sprawl15: Tatsuma: MaudlinMutantMollusk: I think pledging allegiance to Israel is a Republican party requirement

Except that it's a bi-partisan issue.

Obama is distributing a video of himself right now that basically says 'Look how me and Israel are tight, guys!'

Don't see that happening with, say, England.

That's because Muslims have representation in England.

I think Muslims are allowed to vote in Israel. And they make up about 20% of the population. I was wrong once before, though.

Yeah but Newt ate a whole pound of bacon this morning, so, y'know, it evens out.

jedihirsch: Any rich person who donates lots of money to a politician always has an agenda. So what is so "shocking" or different about this? Obama's rich donors have their agenda's and Newts has theirs. As long as it's legal, SHUT THE FARK UP, go back to masturbating and get out of the grownups zone

Yes, everything about this post just screams "grownup zone."

sprawl15: Tatsuma: MaudlinMutantMollusk: I think pledging allegiance to Israel is a Republican party requirement

Except that it's a bi-partisan issue.

Obama is distributing a video of himself right now that basically says 'Look how me and Israel are tight, guys!'

Don't see that happening with, say, England.

That's because Muslims have representation in England.

Not that it's the same thing, but there are currently 14 Arab Israelis in the Knesset out of 120 members (11.66%). Including, weirdly, a member of the ultra-rightist Yisroel Beiteinu party.

Also, America and England have that Special Relationship I've heard so much about.

While there's nothing wrong with backing an ally of America (which Israel officially is), there are many problems with that backing having its roots in religious fervor. Like Goldwater said, once you muddy the waters with "God says he's on my side", it becomes damn near impossible to debate.

HotWingConspiracy: That's a pretty poor investment.

That remains to be seen.

Billionaires don't get that way by accident.

jedihirsch: Any rich person who donates lots of money to a politician always has an agenda. So what is so "shocking" or different about this? Obama's rich donors have their agenda's and Newts has theirs. As long as it's legal, SHUT THE FARK UP, go back to masturbating and get out of the grownups zone

I'm too cheap to donate, but I have to think that even if I were allowed to donate the traditional maximum allowable, I would have no sway whatsoever. Maybe a nice picture of me with the candidate and a thank you note.

10 Million and openly bragging about it? you better believe I'd expect something actionable in return.

LasersHurt: Tatsuma: I would like to see a video of Obama saying 'Guv'nah, I really do love a scone at tea time' while drinking earl grey with a spot of milk and a picture of the queen in the background in order to get more votes though

Only you can take an Article about a guy backing Newt and turn it into two anti-Obama posts without a hint of self-awareness.

Well you see; Tats is an asshole.

DamnYankees: MaudlinMutantMollusk: Aarontology: I wonder what other foreign governments Gingrich will have loyalty over America to if the money is right.

I think pledging allegiance to Israel is a Republican party requirement

Sadly, its not a GOP thing. It's basically the entire government.

this. The Dems lost Weiner's seat (Weiner was very pro-Israel) because the replacement Democrat was not pro-Israel enough.

side point:

At least we know where Gingrich's SuperPAC money comes from, and its motives.

we don't know anything about Romney's and Santorum's; i'm guessing we won't know the source of Obama's either.

Dr Dreidel:
Not that it's the same thing, but there are currently 14 Arab Israelis in the Knesset out of 120 members (11.66%). Including, weirdly, a member of the ultra-rightist Yisroel Beiteinu party.

Unimpressive, for 20% of the population.

BFletch651: HotWingConspiracy: That's a pretty poor investment.

That remains to be seen.

Billionaires don't get that way by accident.

They get old and soft headed like everyone else. Gingrich isn't becoming president. He'd do better funding Israeli charities if he really wanted to help.

Dr Dreidel: Not that it's the same thing, but there are currently 14 Arab Israelis in the Knesset out of 120 members (11.66%). Including, weirdly, a member of the ultra-rightist Yisroel Beiteinu party.

I was contrasting to the US, home of the 9/11 VICTORY GROUND ZERO TERROR MOSQUE AND DAY CARE CENTER.

BFletch651: Dr Dreidel:
Not that it's the same thing, but there are currently 14 Arab Israelis in the Knesset out of 120 members (11.66%). Including, weirdly, a member of the ultra-rightist Yisroel Beiteinu party.

Unimpressive, for 20% of the population.

versus our nation where minorities are are represented in congress at their respective percentages.

HotWingConspiracy: BFletch651: HotWingConspiracy: That's a pretty poor investment.

That remains to be seen.

Billionaires don't get that way by accident.

They get old and soft headed like everyone else. Gingrich isn't becoming president. He'd do better funding Israeli charities if he really wanted to help.

He does. He gave $100M to fund visits of American jewish childred to Israel.

Let's see, gambling money -- and Jewish to boot -- used to promote a serial adulterer to fundamentalist Christians, who eat it up because world destruction is required before they meet Jesus.
It's a crazy world.

The son of a cab driver, Adelson now ranks as the eighth wealthiest person in America, according to Forbes Magazine, which places his net worth at $21.5 billion

Isn't Adleson worried that Newt will start sniffing around the top seven?

BFletch651: HotWingConspiracy: BFletch651: HotWingConspiracy: That's a pretty poor investment.

That remains to be seen.

Billionaires don't get that way by accident.

They get old and soft headed like everyone else. Gingrich isn't becoming president. He'd do better funding Israeli charities if he really wanted to help.

He does. He gave $100M to fund visits of American jewish childred to Israel.

I guess that's nice. I don't really see who it's helping, but free vacations are splendid.

Headso: BFletch651: Dr Dreidel:
Not that it's the same thing, but there are currently 14 Arab Israelis in the Knesset out of 120 members (11.66%). Including, weirdly, a member of the ultra-rightist Yisroel Beiteinu party.

Unimpressive, for 20% of the population.

versus our nation where minorities are are represented in congress at their respective percentages.

Despite some efforts iin that line, there is no "Black" party in the US, for instance.

Black representation in congress is roughly proportionate to their share of the population.

2wolves: Jake Havechek: LasersHurt: Tatsuma: I would like to see a video of Obama saying 'Guv'nah, I really do love a scone at tea time' while drinking earl grey with a spot of milk and a picture of the queen in the background in order to get more votes though

Only you can take an Article about a guy backing Newt and turn it into two anti-Obama posts without a hint of self-awareness.

Well you see; Tats is an asshole.

But Mr. Tats is on a deadline. Soon as his marriage is well and truly consummated he's off of Fark forever. Going full orthodox and all that.

We'll see.

I think I'll wait for the betting odds to come up for that.

Three Crooked Squirrels: FTFA: The FBI and the Securities and Exchange Commission are investigating Adelson for possible violation of the Foreign Corrupt Practices Act, according to a filing with the SEC. The company denies any wrongdoing and says the investigation stems from the allegation of a disgruntled employee.

The son of a cab driver, Adelson now ranks as the eighth wealthiest person in America, according to Forbes Magazine, which places his net worth at $21.5 billion.

And this is why Citizens United is such a dangerous decision. Whether you feel the decision was decided properly on the merits, there is no question that it can and, eventually, will be perverted, if it isn't being so already. With $21.5 billion, how much would he spend to get a friendly candidate to lead the Executive branch and save his gambling empire if there was merit to the allegations? $100 million? $1 billion? Who knows.

It may be a "dangerous decision", but being able to say "Vote for Gingrich" is just as a valid example of speech as internet porn or violent video games.

Also note that the whole "corporate money" bogeyman doesn't apply here; this is his personal funds, given (apparently) for political reasons unrelated to his line of business.

Geotpf: It may be a "dangerous decision", but being able to say "Vote for Gingrich" is just as a valid example of speech as internet porn or violent video games.

So let him say what he pleases, that's really different from spending what he pleases. At least it should be.

BitwiseShift: The son of a cab driver, Adelson now ranks as the eighth wealthiest person in America, according to Forbes Magazine, which places his net worth at $21.5 billion

Isn't Adleson worried that Newt will start sniffing around the top seven?

Well, we all know that #2 (Warren Buffett) supports Obama, although he's not the type to give twenty million to a Super PAC.

Not sure who #1 (Bill Gates) supports, although he is a close personal friend of #1.

Edit: Not sure who #1 (Bill Gates) supports, although he is a close personal friend of #2.

DarnoKonrad: Geotpf: It may be a "dangerous decision", but being able to say "Vote for Gingrich" is just as a valid example of speech as internet porn or violent video games.

So let him say what he pleases, that's really different from spending what he pleases. At least it should be.

Most speech costs money. Internet porn or violent video games aren't free either. Neither are newspapers or TV programs or...

BFletch651: Headso: BFletch651: Dr Dreidel:
Not that it's the same thing, but there are currently 14 Arab Israelis in the Knesset out of 120 members (11.66%). Including, weirdly, a member of the ultra-rightist Yisroel Beiteinu party.

Unimpressive, for 20% of the population.

versus our nation where minorities are are represented in congress at their respective percentages.

Despite some efforts iin that line, there is no "Black" party in the US, for instance.

Black representation in congress is roughly proportionate to their share of the population.

The OP implied that Muslims do not have representation in Knesset (though I think he clarified that he meant Muslims do not have representation in the US - which is true - and I inferred wrongly).

There was nothing in there about "in proportion to population", but if you'd like to start, the US has one Muslim member of Congress and far more than 1/435th of the population is Muslim.

// I don't want to start

dumbobruni: this. The Dems lost Weiner's seat (Weiner was very pro-Israel) because the replacement Democrat was not pro-Israel enough.

Admittedly, that was an unusual seat. I believe the percentage of Jews in that particular district is the highest in the country.

jedihirsch: As long as it's legal, SHUT THE FARK UP

Yes, there's no need to debate whether or not it should be legal. Laws never change, that's why government is so small.