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(LA Times)   Navy testing automated, computer controlled plane which can take off and land on a carrier. I think I've seen this movie, and it had Jamie Foxx, and it was terrible   (latimes.com) divider line 28
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2012-01-26 02:57:18 AM
Considering that computers rely on instruments to function, any instrument failure due to damage or unforeseen circumstances would be farking bad.

For example, on Air France Flight 447 - the initial failure that caused a Airbus A330-203 to crash to the ocean are the three pitots completely freezing over due to supercooled water that hit the pitot surfaces. The pitots measures airspeed. With no airspeed numbers, the flight computers had no idea how to adjust the engines and flaps without the essential part of the equation.

The good news is that failure and errors are actually pretty rare, so my concern in reality might be pretty moot.
 
2012-01-26 05:34:07 AM
It had at least a few redeeming features:

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I find flight suits sexy, what can I say?
 
2012-01-26 10:09:36 AM

DjangoStonereaver: It had at least a few redeeming features:

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I find flight suits sexy, what can I say?


Mission Accomplished?
 
2012-01-26 10:33:22 AM
Ah yes. Why is America the greatest military force known to man? Our computers have neon lights in them, and our jets can download every song ever, but only listens to Incubus.

/it is so very easy to hate that film
 
2012-01-26 10:39:11 AM
"Lethal actions should have a clear chain of accountability," said Noel Sharkey, a computer scientist and robotics expert. "This is difficult with a robot weapon. The robot cannot be held accountable. So is it the commander who used it? The politician who authorized it? The military's acquisition process? The manufacturer, for faulty equipment?"

Politicians being held responsible for the war crimes they order? Sounds great!
 
2012-01-26 10:44:33 AM

CrispFlows: For example, on Air France Flight 447 - the initial failure that caused a Airbus A330-203 to crash to the ocean are the three pitots completely freezing over due to supercooled water that hit the pitot surfaces. The pitots measures airspeed. With no airspeed numbers, the flight computers had no idea how to adjust the engines and flaps without the essential part of the equation.


Was it the flight computer's fault that the pilots failed to turn on the heaters for the pitots?

I would imagine if that airbus was automated there would be a line in the code somewhere that says "IF air
Problem averted. Human error is currently the biggest airplane killer. May as well remove the human and see what happens.
 
2012-01-26 10:47:07 AM
I don't see what a blind, piano playing blues singer has anything to do with landing aircraft...
 
2012-01-26 10:47:24 AM
Fark eats my fake BASIC.

IF air is less then or equal to freezing THEN turn on pitot heaters.
 
2012-01-26 10:47:43 AM
The 21st century represents the end of the need for the masses. This is just one instance of highly skilled people, combat pilots in this case, no longer being needed.

The real struggle in the 21st century is going to be how much of a welfare state are we going to have to implement or are we going to let people starve.

The middle class is done, over, dying and their is no way back. If you are not rich then your children are farked. The only way out is to win the genetic lottery and be able to capitalize on being a 1%er in physical or mental attributes.
 
2012-01-26 10:55:15 AM

Slaves2Darkness: The real struggle in the 21st century is going to be how much of a welfare state are we going to have to implement or are we going to let people starve.


Overpopulation is going to be a bigger problem then welfare states. If you can automate farming clothing and housing enough, everyone can have the basics at little to no cost, making basic welfare and keeping people fed and housed pretty easy to accomplish.

That assumes you have enough sustainable materials to be able to feed clothe and house everyone, of course.
 
2012-01-26 11:38:10 AM
Err, Stealth wasn't a bad movie. Just wasn't very good.
 
2012-01-26 12:16:29 PM

bhcompy: Err, Stealth wasn't a bad movie. Just wasn't very good.


13% fresh on RottenTomatoes (new window) doesn't speak to your point.

Slaves2Darkness: The 21st century represents the end of the need for the masses. This is just one instance of highly skilled people, combat pilots in this case, no longer being needed.


Scary... in fact the system in place while this is being tested will not be there eventually when it is in place. How do we evaluate the aircraft's situation when mission events prompt a decision? A trained, combat-experienced pilot tells it what to do. When there are no trained, combat-experienced pilots, then what?
 
2012-01-26 12:26:57 PM

factoryconnection: 13% fresh on RottenTomatoes (new window) doesn't speak to your point.


Have you seen it?
 
2012-01-26 12:38:49 PM
Screw you guys, that was an awesome movie.
Big production big budget mindless action flick. It's ok, you're allowed to like movies that aren't The King's Speech.
 
2012-01-26 12:50:47 PM
It wasn't that bad for a SyF- Budget: $100,000,000. Oh.
 
2012-01-26 01:17:15 PM
Sorry, i enjoyed Stealth too.. I could careless what some critic that lives with his parents thinks about a movie, as i only want to be entertained. I do go to the theaters for a history lesson, i just want to enjoy my 2 hours of life away from work.
 
2012-01-26 01:34:38 PM
FTFA: "The drone also has a fully capable weapons bay with a payload capacity of 4,500 pounds"

I wonder what sort of ordnance it could carry.

FTFA: "Funded under a $635.8-million contract awarded by the Navy in 2007, the X-47B Unmanned Combat Air System Carrier Demonstration program has grown in cost to an estimated $813 million."

Well hell that's not even double, what a bargain and it's pretty it can kill me anytime.
 
2012-01-26 02:57:11 PM
Meh, a mindless action flick with some fighter jet action, some hot babes in bikinis, and some gun play.

Sometimes I feel the need to watch a movie with a deep message or a convoluted plot (Dune Miniseries, Inception). Sometimes I am tired and just want to turn off my mind and have some fun. "Stealth" falls into the second category, along with "Ninja Assassin" and "Transformers".
 
2012-01-26 03:57:06 PM
F-18's have never taken off a carrier under manual controls. Too difficult for mere humans.

The last thing a pilot does before take off is raise his hand so the shooter can see he has his hand off the stick.
 
2012-01-26 04:18:45 PM

CrispFlows: Considering that computers rely on instruments to function, any instrument failure due to damage or unforeseen circumstances would be farking bad.

For example, on Air France Flight 447 - the initial failure that caused a Airbus A330-203 to crash to the ocean are the three pitots completely freezing over due to supercooled water that hit the pitot surfaces. The pitots measures airspeed. With no airspeed numbers, the flight computers had no idea how to adjust the engines and flaps without the essential part of the equation.

The good news is that failure and errors are actually pretty rare, so my concern in reality might be pretty moot.


The Navy is happy to dump aircraft but they're pretty sensitive about ruining aircraft carriers. I've watched them tip F-14's over the edge into the water. My father worked on a program that would use a water cannon to basically blast aircraft off the flight deck if necessary. The problem with this isn't if they aircraft loses flight control, it's if the aircraft loses flight control while on final approach for landing.
 
2012-01-26 04:47:24 PM

fluffy2097: Was it the flight computer's fault that the pilots failed to turn on the heaters for the pitots?


Pitots were automatically on.

That's the thing. Supercooled water can be below freezing and then freeze instantly on contact with any impurities. It was a freak act of bad coincidence.
 
2012-01-26 05:24:20 PM

mcreadyblue: F-18's have never taken off a carrier under manual controls. Too difficult for mere humans.

The last thing a pilot does before take off is raise his hand so the shooter can see he has his hand off the stick.


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[citation needed]
Etc.

/Not a pilot
//Assumed that pilots are constantly wrangling dials and valves just to keep the birds aloft.
///F-18 is teh sexay.
 
2012-01-26 07:30:23 PM
I'm not ashamed to admit that I too liked Stealth.

Sometimes you just need 2 hours of letting your brain revert back to those days when you were a kid playing with toy jets, and there's Jessica Biel.
 
2012-01-26 09:14:23 PM

aspAddict: mcreadyblue: F-18's have never taken off a carrier under manual controls. Too difficult for mere humans.

The last thing a pilot does before take off is raise his hand so the shooter can see he has his hand off the stick.

notsureifserious.jpg
[citation needed]
Etc.

/Not a pilot
//Assumed that pilots are constantly wrangling dials and valves just to keep the birds aloft.
///F-18 is teh sexay.


It's true-- not so much because of any difficulty but because if you touch anything while the plane is going from 0-165 in a little over 2 seconds, the plane is going to do something very exciting and not very desirable. It's also why the plane's default flap/stabilator settings are full nose-up attitude, so that you don't have to touch anything until you're already airborne. The airplanes can practically fly themselves, and especially in the single-seat models, they have to because pilots are watching radars, radios and strike cameras in addition to flying and navigating. The plane doesn't really want to fly in a straight line, but that's what the computer is for.
 
2012-01-26 10:28:45 PM
Meh. Wake me when they can program a computer that can land the plane on the aircraft carrier on Top Gun.
 
2012-01-27 12:17:27 AM

Hagbardr: Meh. Wake me when they can program a computer that can land the plane on the aircraft carrier on Top Gun.


Umm, they have had automated landing systems for decades but most pilots dont trust them and they are only there for emergency.
 
2012-01-27 12:34:27 AM

dewright_ca: Hagbardr: Meh. Wake me when they can program a computer that can land the plane on the aircraft carrier on Top Gun.

Umm, they have had automated landing systems for decades but most pilots dont trust them and they are only there for emergency.


Whoosh
 
2012-01-28 03:18:54 AM

bhcompy: dewright_ca: Hagbardr: Meh. Wake me when they can program a computer that can land the plane on the aircraft carrier on Top Gun.

Umm, they have had automated landing systems for decades but most pilots dont trust them and they are only there for emergency.

Whoosh


Just like me over the carrier.

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