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(Venture Beat)   A Personal Smack Down from Wikipedia Founder Jimmy Wales   (venturebeat.com) divider line 70
    More: Cool, Jimmy Wales, Dodd, MPAA, Wikipedia, Digital Life, Motion Picture Association of America  
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2012-01-25 01:35:52 PM  
i.qkme.me
 
2012-01-25 01:57:35 PM  
DIMMY!
 
2012-01-25 02:00:29 PM  
And all without a smug-looking banner ad.
 
2012-01-25 02:03:31 PM  
"That's not abuse of power, that's democracy."

I believe there is a flow chart that would go well with this statement.
 
2012-01-25 02:10:05 PM  
Citation Needed.
 
2012-01-25 02:15:53 PM  
FTFA: "Candidly, those who count on quote 'Hollywood' for support..."

I like how he says quote and they put quotes.
 
2012-01-25 02:17:59 PM  
He just earned a donation.
 
2012-01-25 02:20:46 PM  
<b><a href="http://www.fark.com/comments/6901633/74548184#c74548184" target="_blank">K.B.O. Winston</a>:</b> <i>"That's not abuse of power, that's democracy."

I believe there is a flow chart that would go well with this statement.</i>

This.

Dodd deserves to be booted out of Washington for this fiasco. He basically turned his back on the people.
 
2012-01-25 02:28:14 PM  
When I direct my first British gangster film, I'm going to name the villian Jimmy Wales. It's the perfect english low life name.

/big wikipedia anti-SOPA guy
//but common, it's a really cool name for a gangster
///props to my improv teacher pointing that out
 
2012-01-25 02:30:42 PM  
img189.imageshack.us

Dodd had better be scared.
 
2012-01-25 02:42:33 PM  

K.B.O. Winston: "That's not abuse of power, that's democracy."

I believe there is a flow chart that would go well with this statement.


"[Dodd] had best get used to it," Wales added.

Uh, yeah, pretty sure I can flip a couple bucks over to Wikipedia for this one and live without buying a new music album for a few months. That's just awesome.
 
2012-01-25 02:43:52 PM  

K.B.O. Winston: "That's not abuse of power, that's democracy."

I believe there is a flow chart that would go well with this statement.


Ya mean this one?

i511.photobucket.com
 
2012-01-25 02:47:38 PM  

MusicMakeMyHeadPound: K.B.O. Winston: "That's not abuse of power, that's democracy."

I believe there is a flow chart that would go well with this statement.

"[Dodd] had best get used to it," Wales added.

Uh, yeah, pretty sure I can flip a couple bucks over to Wikipedia for this one and live without buying a new music album for a few months. That's just awesome.


Pretty much. Dodd's just a corporate whore now.
 
2012-01-25 02:51:05 PM  

Lego_Addict: <b><a href="http://www.fark.com/comments/6901633/74548184#c74548184" target="_blank">K.B.O. Winston</a>:</b> <i>"That's not abuse of power, that's democracy."

I believe there is a flow chart that would go well with this statement.</i>

This.

Dodd deserves to be booted out of Washington for this fiasco. He basically turned his back on the people.


As if that's ever gotten someone removed from office.
 
2012-01-25 02:51:49 PM  
 
2012-01-25 02:52:36 PM  

Rwa2play: Pretty much. Dodd's just a corporate whore now.


Well, to be fair to Chris Dodd, he's been a corporate whore for a few decades. He's just finally dropped the pretense of public service.
 
2012-01-25 02:55:12 PM  
Rwa2play

Dodd's just a corporate whore now.

Now?

/crap, MMMHP beat me to it
 
2012-01-25 03:00:57 PM  
And this is news why? Everyone knows that Dodd is a dick and needs to be gone. As a mattar of fact, the MPAA as a whole should be shut down. They wield too much power both in Hollywood and in Washington. With billions being spent by consumers to go see these horrible movies, the MPAA has found a way to run the whole show through what they want the consumers to see.
 
2012-01-25 03:02:47 PM  
To be fair, when Dodd was a Senator, once you got bought you stayed bought. These kids you got today in the Senate, they got no respect for tradition.
 
2012-01-25 03:07:33 PM  
Dear MPAA,

im sorry the innovation of the internet has made your business model succeptable to losses... im sure the horse breeders felt the same way about the automobile. Time to fade into obscurity or change your model.

Signed, The World
 
2012-01-25 03:13:59 PM  
I would caution people don't make the assumption that because the quote 'Hollywood community' has been historically supportive of Democrats - Dodd [1]

Cool, so he flat out admitted the liberal bias in Hollywood.
 
2012-01-25 03:14:48 PM  

Frank N Stein: I would caution people don't make the assumption that because the quote 'Hollywood community' has been historically supportive of Democrats - Dodd [1]

Cool, so he flat out admitted the liberal bias in Hollywood.


Oh, and inb4 "reality has a liberal bias".
 
2012-01-25 03:15:33 PM  
FTFA: "Wales argued that these transparent statements make the MPAA out to be a corrupt, Congress-buying organization."

No shiat, Sherlock.

tvovermind.zap2it.com

/approves
 
2012-01-25 03:16:32 PM  

CygnusDarius: Citation Needed.


www.unc.edu
 
2012-01-25 03:16:39 PM  
Dan Carlin is talking about this today on his "Common Sense" podcast too, if anyone's interested.

www.dancarlin.com (new window)
 
2012-01-25 03:22:28 PM  

Frank N Stein: I would caution people don't make the assumption that because the quote 'Hollywood community' has been historically supportive of Democrats - Dodd [1]

Cool, so he flat out admitted the liberal bias in Hollywood.


Wow. He actually did.

I can only imagine that his PR team are severely damaging their livers this month.
 
2012-01-25 03:26:59 PM  

MusicMakeMyHeadPound: Rwa2play: Pretty much. Dodd's just a corporate whore now.

Well, to be fair to Chris Dodd, he's been a corporate whore for a few decades. He's just finally dropped the pretense of public service.


True...and I could think of a few dozen Congresspeople that could leave and join him today.
 
2012-01-25 03:28:40 PM  
"I hope to see ... a window of opportunity for Hollywood to come to the table and talk to Silicon Valley with a little more humility"

Never going to happen Jimmy. The MPAA will only be humbled by their own destruction and probably not even then.

We will make them squeal like a pig before we crush their windpipe though.
 
2012-01-25 03:31:00 PM  
It looks like Wil wheaton has joined in. If we can just get Chuck Norris on our side it will become pure awesome.

Link
 
2012-01-25 03:37:08 PM  

MusicMakeMyHeadPound: Frank N Stein: I would caution people don't make the assumption that because the quote 'Hollywood community' has been historically supportive of Democrats - Dodd [1]

Cool, so he flat out admitted the liberal bias in Hollywood.

Wow. He actually did.



Woerid you two both have the same strange medical condition where the written word "D E M O C R A T" becomes "L I B E R A L".

You should both check with your local university. I am sure there are some grad students looking for a thesis subject on dyslexia related syndromes.

Also, do you not comprehend the difference between "Hollywood" and "Hollywood Community"? The former would be a reference to the multiple corporate entities that run the industry, and the latter are the people who work in the industry. They are separate, and have competing interests. The latter work for the SAG, and the former hate the SAG.

You are conflating the two.
 
2012-01-25 03:38:32 PM  
Woerid

And I appear to have a medical condition that makes my fingers hit random keys.
 
2012-01-25 03:41:21 PM  

sethen320: It looks like Wil wheaton has joined in. If we can just get Chuck Norris on our side it will become pure awesome.

Link


I'd rather have one Wil Wheaton on my side than 10 Chuck Norris'ses.
 
2012-01-25 03:44:24 PM  

Frank N Stein: I would caution people don't make the assumption that because the quote 'Hollywood community' has been historically supportive of Democrats - Dodd [1]

Cool, so he flat out admitted the liberal bias in Hollywood.


He admitted that Hollywood, by and large, donates to Democrats, yes.

/and he's a scumbucket who thinks that money constitutes a bribe.
 
2012-01-25 03:45:18 PM  
10 million people contacted Congress, Wales said. "That's not an abuse of power, that's democracy," he said. "[Dodd] had best get used to it."

BURN

Frank N Stein: I would caution people don't make the assumption that because the quote 'Hollywood community' has been historically supportive of Democrats - Dodd [1]

Cool, so he flat out admitted the liberal bias in Hollywood.


Um, yeah. Think about why. Making movies involves creativity (inb4 Michael Bay). So movies are typically made by artists and writers. Many of the actors were also once starving students doing nude scenes in Off-Off-Broadway productions to eat ramen. Of course, there are the legacy actors like Jaime Lee Curtis and Jaden Smith, but they're in the minority. Producers also tend to be patrons of the arts. Fans of the fine arts tend to be "elitist intellectuals". Actors also tend to be well read. They're often doing movies that are adaptations of literature, or they have experience in Broadway. Literature broadens your world view and makes you less jingoistic and more culturally relative. This would make them more "elitist" and "intellectual". (note: yes, there are plenty of stupid actors. remember what I said about legacies? also, reality shows don't count)
Another farker mentioned that movie stars know all to well how luck make or break their careers, so they understand that they're only rich because they got lucky. They know that Hollywood isn't anything close to a meritocracy. Whoever has the most money gets their movie made. Whichever movie has the most ubiquitous marketing is more likely to get their movie seen. That means buying as many ad spots as possible, and if you can't afford it, then no one will see your movie.
See, liberals know that most success relies on being in the right place at the right time. Being discovered. Some of the most talented people in the world didn't get recognized until they died penniless. And some terrible people with absolutely no talent got shoved into the spotlight and got rich because they had the money to make it happen (Rebecca Black, Willow Smith). In that case, their luck came from being born to rich parents.
While conservatives believe all success is based entirely on hard work (yes, some people DO get rich from hard work), liberals see the 1 billion children near starvation all around the world because of where they were born (Honduras, Niger, North Korea, Somalia) and know how lucky they were to be born in a first world country.

THAT's why Hollywood tends to be liberal.

/csb
 
2012-01-25 03:50:23 PM  

sethen320: It looks like Wil wheaton has joined in. If we can just get Chuck Norris on our side it will become pure awesome.


fark Chuck Norris. He is a washed up hick that thinks he is somehow still relevant today because some jackass chose him instead of Charles Bronson or Clint Eastwood or another manly actor to make fun of. The jokes don't give him carte blanche to be farking insane.
 
2012-01-25 03:52:44 PM  
pics.blameitonthevoices.com
 
2012-01-25 03:53:38 PM  
The reality: SOPA is misguided but there needs to be laws, enforceable and effective laws, to curb blatant and rampant piracy.
What 90% of people think: SOPA WILL STOP ME FROM DOWNLOADING MOVIES?!?! VOTE NO!!!!!
 
2012-01-25 03:54:12 PM  

Cubicle Jockey: Woerid you two both have the same strange medical condition where the written word "D E M O C R A T" becomes "L I B E R A L".


Dodd threatened Democrats and softballed a talking point to the GOP. Fact.

My entire point was that the man is a PR nightmare. Do you disagree?
 
2012-01-25 03:59:17 PM  

colithian: 10 million people contacted Congress, Wales said. "That's not an abuse of power, that's democracy," he said. "[Dodd] had best get used to it."

BURN

Frank N Stein: I would caution people don't make the assumption that because the quote 'Hollywood community' has been historically supportive of Democrats - Dodd [1]

Cool, so he flat out admitted the liberal bias in Hollywood.

Um, yeah. Think about why. Making movies involves creativity (inb4 Michael Bay). So movies are typically made by artists and writers. Many of the actors were also once starving students doing nude scenes in Off-Off-Broadway productions to eat ramen. Of course, there are the legacy actors like Jaime Lee Curtis and Jaden Smith, but they're in the minority. Producers also tend to be patrons of the arts. Fans of the fine arts tend to be "elitist intellectuals". Actors also tend to be well read. They're often doing movies that are adaptations of literature, or they have experience in Broadway. Literature broadens your world view and makes you less jingoistic and more culturally relative. This would make them more "elitist" and "intellectual". (note: yes, there are plenty of stupid actors. remember what I said about legacies? also, reality shows don't count)
Another farker mentioned that movie stars know all to well how luck make or break their careers, so they understand that they're only rich because they got lucky. They know that Hollywood isn't anything close to a meritocracy. Whoever has the most money gets their movie made. Whichever movie has the most ubiquitous marketing is more likely to get their movie seen. That means buying as many ad spots as possible, and if you can't afford it, then no one will see your movie.
See, liberals know that most success relies on being in the right place at the right time. Being discovered. Some of the most talented people in the world didn't get recognized until they died penniless. And some terrible people with absolutely no talent got shoved into the spotl ...


i130.photobucket.com
 
2012-01-25 04:13:59 PM  

TheMorgothPit: sethen320: It looks like Wil wheaton has joined in. If we can just get Chuck Norris on our side it will become pure awesome.

fark Chuck Norris. He is a washed up hick that thinks he is somehow still relevant today because some jackass chose him instead of Charles Bronson or Clint Eastwood or another manly actor to make fun of. The jokes don't give him carte blanche to be farking insane.


It was a dumb comment, but your reaction suggests that you may have some problems which you should seek professional help for.

If you're out of medication let me know which pharmacy it's at and I will do what I can to get it picked up for you.
 
2012-01-25 04:14:01 PM  
^Heh, sorry about the longwindedness. The other farker I mentioned was much more concise. I wish I could remember who he was so I could farky him if I haven't already. I think it might have been Goodfella, but I'm not sure.

And don't get me started about Hollywood re: Jews.
 
2012-01-25 04:34:44 PM  
I knew there was a reason I liked Jimbo.
 
2012-01-25 04:52:16 PM  

Fark_Guy_Rob: The reality: SOPA is misguided but there needs to be laws, enforceable and effective laws, to curb blatant and rampant piracy.
What 90% of people think: SOPA WILL STOP ME FROM DOWNLOADING MOVIES?!?! VOTE NO!!!!!


Prove your reality. I don't see anyone going out of business. In fact, the businesses have continued to grow since the start of P2P Networking. File sharing has been proven to actual expand many industries.
 
2012-01-25 04:57:02 PM  
Do not piss off Jimmy Wales.

He can have your Wikipedia article declare you dead. And when he declares you dead, you stay dead, unlike, say, Chuck Norris or Abe Vigoda.

Fun facts about Chris Dodd:

* He dyes his eyebrows black.

*He invented Dodd's Little Liver Pills, which have killed more innocent people than Communism.

* He speaks fluent Spanish, albeit with a Domincan accent.

* He is dead to Jimmy Wales.

* His views on gay marriage have evolved over time. Specifically, between the 2008 Election and June 22, 2009, when his daughters beat him up about his views on gay marriage.
 
2012-01-25 05:10:35 PM  

Cubicle Jockey: MusicMakeMyHeadPound: Frank N Stein: I would caution people don't make the assumption that because the quote 'Hollywood community' has been historically supportive of Democrats - Dodd [1]

Cool, so he flat out admitted the liberal bias in Hollywood.

Wow. He actually did.


Woerid you two both have the same strange medical condition where the written word "D E M O C R A T" becomes "L I B E R A L".

You should both check with your local university. I am sure there are some grad students looking for a thesis subject on dyslexia related syndromes.

Also, do you not comprehend the difference between "Hollywood" and "Hollywood Community"? The former would be a reference to the multiple corporate entities that run the industry, and the latter are the people who work in the industry. They are separate, and have competing interests. The latter work for the SAG, and the former hate the SAG.

You are conflating the two.


No true liberal would vote like democrat Dodd.
 
2012-01-25 05:23:54 PM  

sethen320: TheMorgothPit: sethen320: It looks like Wil wheaton has joined in. If we can just get Chuck Norris on our side it will become pure awesome.

fark Chuck Norris. He is a washed up hick that thinks he is somehow still relevant today because some jackass chose him instead of Charles Bronson or Clint Eastwood or another manly actor to make fun of. The jokes don't give him carte blanche to be farking insane.

It was a dumb comment, but your reaction suggests that you may have some problems which you should seek professional help for.

If you're out of medication let me know which pharmacy it's at and I will do what I can to get it picked up for you.


Don't know that dude, but I lost respect for Chuck Norris when he complained about there being cusswords in a script. I'm sorry, but if I'm having a beer with someone, I'd rather not be judged because I'm saying fark and shiat.
 
2012-01-25 06:17:33 PM  
The Reality: SOPA is a draconian, badly-written law that would allow content owners to destroy legitimate websites with little-to-no oversight, and usurp powers normally reserved for the courts. It would destroy sites that rely on fair use and/or user generated content while doing little to actually stop piracy. Content creators and websites that would be adversely affected by this egregious power grab banded together and asked their users to put a stop to this, which they did.
What Fark_Guy_Rob believes :The reality: SOPA is misguided but there needs to be laws, enforceable and effective laws, to curb blatant and rampant piracy.
What 90% of people think: SOPA WILL STOP ME FROM DOWNLOADING MOVIES?!?! VOTE NO!!!!!
 
2012-01-25 06:22:48 PM  

beta_plus: Cubicle Jockey: MusicMakeMyHeadPound: Frank N Stein: I would caution people don't make the assumption that because the quote 'Hollywood community' has been historically supportive of Democrats - Dodd [1]

Cool, so he flat out admitted the liberal bias in Hollywood.

Wow. He actually did.


Woerid you two both have the same strange medical condition where the written word "D E M O C R A T" becomes "L I B E R A L".

You should both check with your local university. I am sure there are some grad students looking for a thesis subject on dyslexia related syndromes.

Also, do you not comprehend the difference between "Hollywood" and "Hollywood Community"? The former would be a reference to the multiple corporate entities that run the industry, and the latter are the people who work in the industry. They are separate, and have competing interests. The latter work for the SAG, and the former hate the SAG.

You are conflating the two.

No true liberal would vote like democrat Dodd.


In all fairness, you don't know what the fark you're talking about.
 
2012-01-25 06:35:29 PM  
Good on him.
 
2012-01-25 06:58:46 PM  
He's totally right.... not that Chris Dodd could give two shiats. Dodd is a good poster boy for what's wrong with our political leadership today. That corrupt motherfarker left Washington in a cloud of his own scandal, and then just returned as the RIAA's official stooge - basically with more direct access to the cash and less oversight than what little he had before. Shameful.
 
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