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URAPNIS
2012-01-25 10:35:00 AM
Cast iron.
That is all.
TravisBickle62
2012-01-25 10:37:15 AM
I cook on a large, flat stone, I don't trust iron or any other metal
rjakobi
2012-01-25 10:37:28 AM
And remember, kiddies. Autisic is now used by the media as the PC-friendly alternative to "farking retarded".
Splinshints
2012-01-25 10:37:41 AM
URAPNIS
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Cast iron.
That is all.
I have given up on trying to use anything but non-stick cookware and the grill. It doesn't matter what I do, what I use to grease the pans, what temperature I use, how I flip or stir things.... I cannot use that shiat without burning the outside of my food and leaving the inside cool and mostly raw.
I just don't have the skills.
That said, I also don't have or routinely feed kids, so...
AnubisMan
2012-01-25 10:38:11 AM
Well, I'm sure not cooking them in a old fashioned stick pan, imagine the clean up.
ringersol
2012-01-25 10:40:01 AM
What you cook on sounds like a fairly small issue if most containers for most food are saturated in the stuff.
AgentBang
2012-01-25 10:40:54 AM
Stainless steel cookware works very nicely for me, just throw in a little olive oil or olive oil flavored Pam spray and things cook well. I do plan on getting my hands on a nice cast iron skillet for stove-top to oven cooking though.
palelizard
2012-01-25 10:42:55 AM
URAPNIS
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Cast iron.
That is all.
The cast iron stuff covered in ceramic is better--easier clean up and no rust worries until you chip it.
Lunaville
2012-01-25 10:43:05 AM
Splinshints
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URAPNIS: Cast iron.
That is all.
I have given up on trying to use anything but non-stick cookware and the grill. It doesn't matter what I do, what I use to grease the pans, what temperature I use, how I flip or stir things.... I cannot use that shiat without burning the outside of my food and leaving the inside cool and mostly raw.
I just don't have the skills.
That said, I also don't have or routinely feed kids, so...
Just turn the heat down and slow down a bit: you'll do fine. Once you get used to cooking with cast iron, it really is the easiest cookware to use. Remember not to use any detergent on it, don't scrub it out, and soak/wipe it out before the remains of the dish dry to the pan.
Artcurus
2012-01-25 10:43:08 AM
yeah, Cast Iron works wonders.
Lunaville
2012-01-25 10:44:13 AM
palelizard
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URAPNIS: Cast iron.
That is all.
The cast iron stuff covered in ceramic is better--easier clean up and no rust worries until you chip it.
You won't boost your iron intake with the ceramic stuff.
Pants full of macaroni!!
2012-01-25 10:46:16 AM
Cooking is for pussies. Eat raw or not at all!
/is that the kind of thread we're doing?
Russ1642
2012-01-25 10:47:02 AM
Good nonstick cookware rocks. Cleaning is a breeze, and you don't need to soak stuff in oil to cook it.
brigid_fitch
2012-01-25 10:48:35 AM
They'll get my commercial-grade Calphalon non-stick pans when they pry it from my cold, dead hands.
/Also have a few copper-bottom pans I'm quite fond of.
Smingleigh
2012-01-25 10:49:47 AM
Is it still okay to spank them with non-non-stick pans?
Goimir
2012-01-25 10:50:02 AM
Lunaville
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Just turn the heat down and slow down a bit: you'll do fine. Once you get used to cooking with cast iron, it really is the easiest cookware to use. Remember not to use any detergent on it, don't scrub it out, and soak/wipe it out before the remains of the dish dry to the pan.
I wash mine gently, and have never had any problems. As long as you're not scrubbing the scale off, you'll be fine.
Mayor Bee
2012-01-25 10:54:09 AM
Russ1642
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Good nonstick cookware rocks. Cleaning is a breeze, and you don't need to soak stuff in oil to cook it.
This is a moot point. With how fat kids are nowadays, it really doesn't matter if you expose them to nonstick cooking pans or not. They just cook naturally in their own juices and the meat comes out very tender. It has something to do with the marbling.
karmaceutical
2012-01-25 10:58:46 AM
Cast iron is okay for certain things... but good non-stick is an essential part of any kitchen. I have given up pans and use a two-burner non-stick griddle for most stuff. the rest is done in stainless or ceramic coated cast, and are mostly for specialty stuff (searing and braising, etc).
farkingatwork
2012-01-25 10:58:51 AM
AnubisMan
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Well, I'm sure not cooking them in a old fashioned stick pan, imagine the clean up.
even the witch in hansel and gretel wasn't that stupid. I think she used a hibachi.
Lunaville
2012-01-25 11:05:56 AM
Russ1642
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Good nonstick cookware rocks. Cleaning is a breeze, and you don't need to soak stuff in oil to cook it.
Have you ever had a parakeet? One of my sisters had a string of parakeets drop dead shortly after she purchased them. After much arguing (this particular sister is exceptionally stubborn) she finally got rid of her nonstick pans. Like magic, the next parakeet lived a normal lifespan.
Also, yes you must use a little oil in cast iron, but one to three tablespoons is hardly soaking stuff in oil.
TravisBickle62
2012-01-25 11:07:34 AM
Lunaville
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Russ1642: Good nonstick cookware rocks. Cleaning is a breeze, and you don't need to soak stuff in oil to cook it.
Have you ever had a parakeet? One of my sisters had a string of parakeets drop dead shortly after she purchased them. After much arguing (this particular sister is exceptionally stubborn) she finally got rid of her nonstick pans. Like magic, the next parakeet lived a normal lifespan.
Also, yes you must use a little oil in cast iron, but one to three tablespoons is hardly soaking stuff in oil.
So I should either get rid of the non-stick pans, or give up hope on ever owning a parakeet?
hstein3
2012-01-25 11:10:55 AM
Pants full of macaroni!!
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Cooking is for pussies. Eat raw or not at all!
/is that the kind of thread we're doing?
Amateur.
pute kisses like a man
2012-01-25 11:11:09 AM
Cast iron is great. probably the best. but not the most convenient. and, some delicate foods are easier to cook on other surfaces.
cast iron is probably best for sturdy foods that need a very consistent temperature. like meats, fish, etc.
I have a cast iron dutch oven that gets a lot of use (I like to braise meats and smother vegetables). it makes the best beef bourguignon, lamb shanks or osso bucco.
but, it is inconvenient. and, sometimes I like to have a lighter pan so that I can fling the cooking stuff around. I used to work as a cook in a french restaurant, so I have a flair for the dramatic, lighting stuff on fire... all that crap. booze goes into 90% of what I cook. if there is burnt stuff on the pan, booze is going in.
for general cooking, I use stainless steel. It is mostly non-stick (depends upon how well you maintain it). It's almost the opposite of cast iron. Cast iron is all about taking a very long time to change temperature. steel changes temperature almost immediately. For which reason, it can brown and caramelize stuff very quickly. it gets extremely hot though, so you can lower your stove top temp by 25% to get the desired pan temp. Basically, if you cook on your stove's highest temp, you'll be torching your food in seconds.
I try to avoid teflon though. you just can't get it to do anything special. but, it is the easiest to cook with and clean.
brigid_fitch
2012-01-25 11:13:26 AM
Lunaville
:
Have you ever had a parakeet? One of my sisters had a string of parakeets drop dead shortly after she purchased them. After much arguing (this particular sister is exceptionally stubborn) she finally got rid of her nonstick pans. Like magic, the next parakeet lived a normal lifespan.
That's been known since Dow started making Teflon pans. If they get too hot, the Teflon emits fumes that will kill birds. The solution is not to keep birds in the kitchen, since pretty much any surface, when overheated, could possibly kill birds. They've got sensitive lungs--that's why they were used in coal mines.
gozar_the_destroyer
2012-01-25 11:18:57 AM
brigid_fitch
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Lunaville: Have you ever had a parakeet? One of my sisters had a string of parakeets drop dead shortly after she purchased them. After much arguing (this particular sister is exceptionally stubborn) she finally got rid of her nonstick pans. Like magic, the next parakeet lived a normal lifespan.
That's been known since Dow started making Teflon pans. If they get too hot, the Teflon emits fumes that will kill birds. The solution is not to keep birds in the kitchen, since pretty much any surface, when overheated, could possibly kill birds. They've got sensitive lungs--that's why they were used in coal mines.
The high metabolism and rapid breathing didn't hurt either. Rodents would work too, but they don't sing when they are alive and canaries do; so you notice when the air is bad much faster.
palelizard
2012-01-25 11:19:43 AM
Lunaville
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You won't boost your iron intake with the ceramic stuff.
That's what the grill is for. It's like making cookies, after you're done cooking you can lick the grate to get the leavings.
Vodka Zombie
2012-01-25 11:21:34 AM
Lunaville
:
palelizard: URAPNIS: Cast iron.
That is all.
The cast iron stuff covered in ceramic is better--easier clean up and no rust worries until you chip it.
You won't boost your iron intake with the ceramic stuff.
If you're thinking you're getting any sort of boost from non-enameled cast iron, well... that's just not happening.
wolfzr2
2012-01-25 11:23:51 AM
This just in...everything farking kills you so why bother.
Mikey1969
2012-01-25 11:37:42 AM
Splinshints
:
I have given up on trying to use anything but non-stick cookware and the grill. It doesn't matter what I do, what I use to grease the pans, what temperature I use, how I flip or stir things.... I cannot use that shiat without burning the outside of my food and leaving the inside cool and mostly raw.
I just don't have the skills.
That said, I also don't have or routinely feed kids, so...
Lower cooking temps are the best thing... Raise temp in moderation on some foods also, bring them up slowly. Best advice I can offer.
Mikey1969
2012-01-25 11:48:24 AM
brigid_fitch
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They'll get my commercial-grade Calphalon non-stick pans when they pry it from my cold, dead hands.
Remember, not ALL non-stick have this issue. Looks like Calphalon uses a chemical that is in question, but it isn't decided if that one DOES cause issues, as far as I know.
Personally, I just let my kids eat anything they find(anywhere) for the first 3 or 4 years, that way if the vaccines don't work, they have natural immunities to back them up. :)
Porous Horace
2012-01-25 11:49:01 AM
[Gordon Ramesay non-stiiick reference]
jagec
2012-01-25 11:59:28 AM
karmaceutical
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Cast iron is okay for certain things... but good non-stick is an essential part of any kitchen.
Do you still have training wheels on your bicycle?
Lunaville
2012-01-25 12:00:11 PM
TravisBickle62
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Lunaville: Russ1642: Good nonstick cookware rocks. Cleaning is a breeze, and you don't need to soak stuff in oil to cook it.
Have you ever had a parakeet? One of my sisters had a string of parakeets drop dead shortly after she purchased them. After much arguing (this particular sister is exceptionally stubborn) she finally got rid of her nonstick pans. Like magic, the next parakeet lived a normal lifespan.
Also, yes you must use a little oil in cast iron, but one to three tablespoons is hardly soaking stuff in oil.
So I should either get rid of the non-stick pans, or give up hope on ever owning a parakeet?
Why does the idea sound hilarious when you word it like that?
Lunaville
2012-01-25 12:05:25 PM
pute kisses like a man
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Cast iron is great. probably the best. but not the most convenient. and, some delicate foods are easier to cook on other surfaces.
cast iron is probably best for sturdy foods that need a very consistent temperature. like meats, fish, etc.
I have a cast iron dutch oven that gets a lot of use (I like to braise meats and smother vegetables). it makes the best beef bourguignon, lamb shanks or osso bucco.
but, it is inconvenient. and, sometimes I like to have a lighter pan so that I can fling the cooking stuff around. I used to work as a cook in a french restaurant, so I have a flair for the dramatic, lighting stuff on fire... all that crap. booze goes into 90% of what I cook. if there is burnt stuff on the pan, booze is going in.
for general cooking, I use stainless steel. It is mostly non-stick (depends upon how well you maintain it). It's almost the opposite of cast iron. Cast iron is all about taking a very long time to change temperature. steel changes temperature almost immediately. For which reason, it can brown and caramelize stuff very quickly. it gets extremely hot though, so you can lower your stove top temp by 25% to get the desired pan temp. Basically, if you cook on your stove's highest temp, you'll be torching your food in seconds.
I try to avoid teflon though. you just can't get it to do anything special. but, it is the easiest to cook with and clean.
Wow, it sounds like you out cook me in a serious way. The only time I cook with anything alcoholic is when I make hushpuppies. I definitely don't do fancy.
Burr
2012-01-25 12:13:36 PM
For those who use Cast Iron:
Oil Sprayer. Nice way to evenly coat the pan without feeling like you are drowning your food.
We don't have a single non-stick pan in our kitchen (there are some in storage though). Most of it is cast Iron. We cook most every night and have no problems with clean up, especially if you get a scraper.
We also have a cast iron loaf pan, makes the best bread!
FlashHarry
2012-01-25 12:16:12 PM
URAPNIS
:
Cast iron.
That is all.
cast iron: heats evenly, retains heat for long time, may affect the taste of acidic foods
enameled cast iron: heats evenly, retains heat for a long time
stainless steel: heats evenly, does not retain heat well (most have aluminum and/or copper core), cleans up well, durable
copper: heats evenly, responds to temperature changes almost instantly, must be lined with tin or silver (steel negates its properties), expensive
non-stick: useful for a few delicate things, must never use cooking sprays, must never heat beyond 450º, must never clean with anything but a soft sponge
use the right tool for the job. and learn to love
the brown crispy stuff that sticks to the bottom of a non-nonstick pan.
that's flavor right there, that is!
Moonfisher
2012-01-25 12:26:04 PM
rjakobi
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And remember, kiddies. Autisic is now used by the media as the PC-friendly alternative to "farking retarded".
You sound autistic.
FeFiFoFark
2012-01-25 12:30:52 PM
how do they get Teflon® to stick to the pan?
URAPNIS
2012-01-25 12:33:31 PM
FeFiFoFark
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how do they get Teflon® to stick to the pan?
With the tears of Autistic children.
karmaceutical
2012-01-25 12:33:53 PM
jagec
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karmaceutical: Cast iron is okay for certain things... but good non-stick is an essential part of any kitchen.
Do you still have training wheels on your bicycle?
A tool for every job... and I'm guessing you know something about tools. Right big guy?
leonel
2012-01-25 12:51:31 PM
TravisBickle62
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I cook on a large, flat stone, I don't trust iron or any other metal
I cook on molten lava, I don't trust lukewarm rocks
baronvonzipper
2012-01-25 12:54:38 PM
Splinshints
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URAPNIS: Cast iron.
That is all.
I have given up on trying to use anything but non-stick cookware and the grill. It doesn't matter what I do, what I use to grease the pans, what temperature I use, how I flip or stir things.... I cannot use that shiat without burning the outside of my food and leaving the inside cool and mostly raw.
I just don't have the skills.
That said, I also don't have or routinely feed kids, so...
Low and slow.
/that sounds wrong..
ChubbyTiger
2012-01-25 12:59:05 PM
If your cast iron pans are well seasoned, they're effectively non-stick. I seem to recall Cooks Illustrated doing an article about this, too.
I can cook eggs in my cast iron pan and they don't stick at all, but stainless is better for some things and the enameled pots are the best for braises and stews and such.
exatron
2012-01-25 12:59:30 PM
TravisBickle62
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Lunaville: Russ1642: Good nonstick cookware rocks. Cleaning is a breeze, and you don't need to soak stuff in oil to cook it.
Have you ever had a parakeet? One of my sisters had a string of parakeets drop dead shortly after she purchased them. After much arguing (this particular sister is exceptionally stubborn) she finally got rid of her nonstick pans. Like magic, the next parakeet lived a normal lifespan.
Also, yes you must use a little oil in cast iron, but one to three tablespoons is hardly soaking stuff in oil.
So I should either get rid of the non-stick pans, or give up hope on ever owning a parakeet?
You could always buy a Norwegian Blue.
/Beautiful plumage.
bemis23
2012-01-25 01:14:24 PM
If you don't understand the tools you're trying to cook with you'll never have much success. Stainless, ceramic, cast iron, and teflon all have their uses but you have to understand why and when to use them or you'll never be anything more than mediocre.
HoratioGates
2012-01-25 01:17:20 PM
Keep your kids out of the military. They are loaded with PFCs.
CheekyMonkey
2012-01-25 01:25:42 PM
Hmm. The nurse in the pic in TFA is wearing the same purple gloves that the Warehouse 13 agents wear when handling Artifacts. Coincidence, or government consipiracy/cover-up?
Oh, and to get back on topic, cast iron FTW. The only non-stick pan you'll never have to replace.
IamPatSajak
2012-01-25 01:45:14 PM
Just to be clear:
The bottles I gave them were full of BPA
The breastmilk they drank was full of jet fuel
The plates they eat on, paper the food is wrapped in and pans I cook with effect immune responses
The nitrates used to preserve the food
and.. if I managed to raise an animal without hormones, antibiotics and pesticides then I put it on the grill we're still at risk from:
cancer causing agents from the charcoal
cancer causing PAHs
heart conditions
Seriously f-k this entire world. We covered everything in chemicals and now our kids are dying of cancer in record numbers. You can't even be a vegan and be a parent or people will act like you are some kind of child abuser.
brigid_fitch
2012-01-25 01:46:21 PM
Mikey1969
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brigid_fitch: They'll get my commercial-grade Calphalon non-stick pans when they pry it from my cold, dead hands.
Remember, not ALL non-stick have this issue. Looks like Calphalon uses a chemical that is in question, but it isn't decided if that one DOES cause issues, as far as I know.
Personally, I just let my kids eat anything they find(anywhere) for the first 3 or 4 years, that way if the vaccines don't work, they have natural immunities to back them up. :)
I grew up in a far more toxic environment than any of today's average kids. Grew up in Jersey City in the 60s & 70s, when lead was still in paint, ironing boards had asbestos covers, and we'd never heard of "flame retardant". We survived. And, thanks to your common sense approach, your kids will, too. The other precious snowflakes wrapped in bubble wrap and protected from every outside source? Not so sure about them.
Mikey1969
2012-01-25 01:53:45 PM
brigid_fitch
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I grew up in a far more toxic environment than any of today's average kids. Grew up in Jersey City in the 60s & 70s, when lead was still in paint, ironing boards had asbestos covers, and we'd never heard of "flame retardant". We survived. And, thanks to your common sense approach, your kids will, too. The other precious snowflakes wrapped in bubble wrap and protected from every outside source? Not so sure about them.
LOL, my 3 year old likes to munch on cereal, so she's quite often walking around with a bowl or baggie full of cereal. These get picked up if she leaves them laying around, or when we do something like give her a bath, so sometimes we have them in places we don't expect.
A few weeks ago, we had one in the bathroom, and it got knocked over. Thought we picked it all up, threw it away, and we were good. Last week, she stopped, picked up a piece she found on the bathroom floor, and popped it in her mouth before I could stop her. I cringed, but the damage was done, all that was left was to see if she got sick, and take her in. The bathroom floor is actually a bit much for my scenario... :-)
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