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(Talking Points Memo) Followup Three new questions raised by Mitt Romney's tax returns. Most notable question? "How many wives do you have?"   (tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com) divider line 63
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2012-01-25 09:20:55 AM
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I think you're barking up the wrong GOP runner, Submitter. The Mormon's been the best monogamist of anyone in that group, Santorum included.
 
2012-01-25 09:31:46 AM
FTFA: "t is listed because I set that account up for diversification in 2003 when I became trustee of the blind trusts," Malt said. "It is a bank account. Nothing more, nothing less. An ordinary bank account. It earns some income which is fully reported on the form 1040. In the 2010 tax return, you'll see approximately $1,700 in interest earned by this account, which is reported. The tax is fully paid just as if this were a U.S. bank account. Nothing more complicated than that. By the way, I did close this account in early 2010. It no longer exists." "


Uhh, if you want to inspire confidence in your financial dealings, you might not want to close your offshore account when you decide to run for President.
 
2012-01-25 10:39:03 AM
1derful: Uhh, if you want to inspire confidence in your financial dealings, you might not want to close your offshore account when you decide to run for President.

i.imgur.com

Yeah, I know its Swiss.
 
2012-01-25 11:17:16 AM
wher teh sistar wifes!!!???
 
2012-01-25 11:18:52 AM
Why all the tunnel vision in regards to Romneys taxes.....how much will GE get away with not paying this year?
 
2012-01-25 11:20:59 AM
Giltric: Why all the tunnel vision in regards to Romneys taxes.....how much will GE get away with not paying this year?

Many of us are angry about that, too, but you rightists call us hippies. Anyway, is GE running for president on a platform of slashing their own taxes, "growing the tax base" while attempting to relate to average tax payers?
 
2012-01-25 11:23:21 AM
Look, I'm no Romney supporter. I plan on voting for Obama regardless of Romney's taxes. But if all Romney's done is what I've seen so far, he's done nothing wrong or illegal. You could argue (and I would) that the rules should be different, and he certainly shouldn't be passing himself off as a regular guy, but given the current rules I don't see any problems.
 
2012-01-25 11:29:22 AM
Anyone know how much he pays in property taxes and sales tax?
 
2012-01-25 11:31:14 AM
His taxes returns made me wonder if you tithe on investment income or only earned income? Because he didn't seem to have dropped 10 percent in the collection plate according to the figures I saw.
 
2012-01-25 11:32:08 AM
FreakinB: Look, I'm no Romney supporter. I plan on voting for Obama regardless of Romney's taxes. But if all Romney's done is what I've seen so far, he's done nothing wrong or illegal. You could argue (and I would) that the rules should be different, and he certainly shouldn't be passing himself off as a regular guy, but given the current rules I don't see any problems.

Doesn;t seem to be anything scandalous going on......except that being wealthy has become scandalous in and of itself.

Even if you invest silver spoon money you were born with in a savings account for .003% you have somehow made your interest off the backs of hardworking Americans.

Surely Romney has to have more evil, mean, and nasty stuff lurking about to attack him over then being wealthy.....they should shiat or get off the pot....a persons wealth isn't something I can get all butthurt over......except Soros...he actually made his money off the backs of other people by breaking a countrys currency.
 
2012-01-25 11:33:17 AM
Really, that is the best they can do?

Especially item 1? Of course people who have losses offset the gains with those loses. And even if they didn't in a particular year, the losses can be carried forward to years in which there is a gain.
 
2012-01-25 11:33:58 AM
Giltric: a persons wealth isn't something I can get all butthurt over......except Soros.

lol
 
2012-01-25 11:34:34 AM
FreakinB: Look, I'm no Romney supporter. I plan on voting for Obama regardless of Romney's taxes. But if all Romney's done is what I've seen so far, he's done nothing wrong or illegal. You could argue (and I would) that the rules should be different, and he certainly shouldn't be passing himself off as a regular guy, but given the current rules I don't see any problems.

I agree that they don't show that he's done anything illegal (wrong is a bit more subjective). They are nice to have around as something to point to when I argue that capital gains should be taxed as income.
 
2012-01-25 11:35:15 AM
A Dark Evil Omen: Giltric: Why all the tunnel vision in regards to Romneys taxes.....how much will GE get away with not paying this year?

Many of us are angry about that, too, but you rightists call us hippies. Anyway, is GE running for president on a platform of slashing their own taxes, "growing the tax base" while attempting to relate to average tax payers?


what is this fixation with "relating to average tax payers"?

I want a president who can fix the economy, not a dad or a friend. the left is so obsessed with "likability". Got issues?
 
2012-01-25 11:37:00 AM
Giltric: Why all the tunnel vision in regards to Romneys taxes.....how much will GE get away with not paying this year?

Uhmmm..... because Romney is the one running for President and asking for my vote?
 
2012-01-25 11:37:39 AM
Giltric: Look over there!

Giltric: That's not sticking? OK, look over here!
 
2012-01-25 11:40:14 AM
thurstonxhowell: Giltric: Look over there!

Giltric: That's not sticking? OK, look over here!


But BUSH!!!!


/amirite

/did the rules change today for some of us?
 
2012-01-25 11:41:17 AM
InmanRoshi: Giltric: Why all the tunnel vision in regards to Romneys taxes.....how much will GE get away with not paying this year?

Uhmmm..... because Romney is the one running for President and asking for my vote?


Yeah like that matters to someone who would never vote republican.
 
2012-01-25 11:41:36 AM
thurstonxhowell: FreakinB: Look, I'm no Romney supporter. I plan on voting for Obama regardless of Romney's taxes. But if all Romney's done is what I've seen so far, he's done nothing wrong or illegal. You could argue (and I would) that the rules should be different, and he certainly shouldn't be passing himself off as a regular guy, but given the current rules I don't see any problems.

I agree that they don't show that he's done anything illegal (wrong is a bit more subjective). They are nice to have around as something to point to when I argue that capital gains should be taxed as income.


True, it's more subjective. But personally, in this area, I consider anything legal to be ok. There are other areas where there could be a disconnect between what's legal and what's right, but I don't think personal tax planning isn't one of them. There's no direct harm on someone else*, and anyone who is entitled to a benefit under the rules would be a fool not to take it. Everyone else will.

*there is indirect harm, but that's caused more by the rules than the person
 
2012-01-25 11:41:45 AM
Giltric: thurstonxhowell: Giltric: Look over there!

Giltric: That's not sticking? OK, look over here!

But BUSH!!!!


/amirite

/did the rules change today for some of us?


Your a idiot.
 
2012-01-25 11:42:14 AM
Giltric: None of that worked? Let's try changing the subject completely! That's always fun, right guys?
 
2012-01-25 11:42:22 AM
A Dark Evil Omen: Giltric: thurstonxhowell: Giltric: Look over there!

Giltric: That's not sticking? OK, look over here!

But BUSH!!!!


/amirite

/did the rules change today for some of us?

You're a idiot.


ftfy
 
2012-01-25 11:42:35 AM
tenpoundsofcheese: A Dark Evil Omen: Giltric: Why all the tunnel vision in regards to Romneys taxes.....how much will GE get away with not paying this year?

Many of us are angry about that, too, but you rightists call us hippies. Anyway, is GE running for president on a platform of slashing their own taxes, "growing the tax base" while attempting to relate to average tax payers?

what is this fixation with "relating to average tax payers"?

I want a president who can fix the economy, not a dad or a friend. the left is so obsessed with "likability". Got issues?


yeah it's the left...

t3.gstatic.com

freedomslighthouse.net

s3.reutersmedia.net
 
2012-01-25 11:44:21 AM
Giltric: A Dark Evil Omen: Giltric: thurstonxhowell: Giltric: Look over there!

Giltric: That's not sticking? OK, look over here!

But BUSH!!!!


/amirite

/did the rules change today for some of us?

You're a idiot.

ftfy


You failed to recognize a long-standing Fark meme and your "correction" was missing the more obvious fix.

Yep. You're an idiot.
 
2012-01-25 11:44:55 AM
1derful: FTFA: "t is listed because I set that account up for diversification in 2003 when I became trustee of the blind trusts," Malt said. "It is a bank account. Nothing more, nothing less. An ordinary bank account. It earns some income which is fully reported on the form 1040. In the 2010 tax return, you'll see approximately $1,700 in interest earned by this account, which is reported. The tax is fully paid just as if this were a U.S. bank account. Nothing more complicated than that. By the way, I did close this account in early 2010. It no longer exists." "


Uhh, if you want to inspire confidence in your financial dealings, you might not want to close your offshore account when you decide to run for President.


He closed the account in 06-07?
 
2012-01-25 11:45:05 AM
Somacandra: [i.imgur.com image 611x295]

I think you're barking up the wrong GOP runner, Submitter. The Mormon's been the best monogamist of anyone in that group, Santorum included.


Home wrecker #1/ex-wife #2 looks like Rex Ryan.
 
2012-01-25 11:45:35 AM
I think you're asking about "Aunt" Betsy and "Aunt" Jane who live in the spare bedrooms, subby.

But, you know, just from the hypothetical perspective of a selfish pig, imagine what life must have been like for the old time Mormons out there on the Colorado Plateau before the federals brought them to heel...say, for a guy like John Lee.

Put in charge of a remote ferry across the wild Colorado River, all the 'tang any man could handle with 19 wives, regular grub delivered by the brethren...no sounds of cars or machines or jet planes roaring overhead. Just the murmur of the mighty river, the freshettes rustling through the leaves of the cottonwoods, flycatchers peeping in the foliage, glorious light at every dawn and dusk with the canyon walls reflecting their golden and pink and orange colors, ringtails bustling about in the moonlight, fresh channel cat seared in the pan from time-to-time, the aroma of pinyon warming the old place on cold winter nights...a glorious reverie of simple pleasures and peace and quiet on the ancient river.

wwa.colorado.edu

Or, maybe it sucked.
 
2012-01-25 11:46:01 AM
FreakinB: Look, I'm no Romney supporter. I plan on voting for Obama regardless of Romney's taxes. But if all Romney's done is what I've seen so far, he's done nothing wrong or illegal. You could argue (and I would) that the rules should be different, and he certainly shouldn't be passing himself off as a regular guy, but given the current rules I don't see any problems.

This is the old standard tagline.....

The Top 30 American companies spend more on lobbying than they do on taxes. They purposely pay a literal army of lobbyists to fill the taxcode with as many worm holes and loop holes as possible in the taxcode to keep from paying taxes. They fight tooth and nail to prevent anyone from closing those loopholes. Then they throw up their hands and say "Don't look at me. I'm not at fault. What do you want me to do? I'm merely playing by the rules I'm told to play by."

Fark them and fark anyone who thinks that's acceptable.
 
2012-01-25 11:47:00 AM
thurstonxhowell: Giltric: None of that worked? Let's try changing the subject completely! That's always fun, right guys?

Butthurt must be strong in you today....you're at a loss for words.
 
2012-01-25 11:48:23 AM
Giltric: Yeah like that matters to someone who would never vote republican.

Wow, that's some stunningly bad troll. You went full Schiavo.

0/10.
 
2012-01-25 11:49:01 AM
I would not be shocked to hear more than one wife exists. He gives half of his charitable contributions to his own foundation which could easily then fund a few more wives without any obvious connection.
 
2012-01-25 11:49:35 AM
The most notable question about Romney's tax returns is "how dare you be rich? How dare you?"
 
2012-01-25 11:51:04 AM
A Dark Evil Omen: Giltric: A Dark Evil Omen: Giltric: thurstonxhowell: Giltric: Look over there!

Giltric: That's not sticking? OK, look over here!

But BUSH!!!!


/amirite

/did the rules change today for some of us?

You're a idiot.

ftfy

You failed to recognize a long-standing Fark meme and your "correction" was missing the more obvious fix.

Yep. You're an idiot.


We have 9% unemployment and wealthy people paying hardly anything in taxes and you sit here worrying about memes.
 
2012-01-25 11:52:21 AM
InmanRoshi: FreakinB: Look, I'm no Romney supporter. I plan on voting for Obama regardless of Romney's taxes. But if all Romney's done is what I've seen so far, he's done nothing wrong or illegal. You could argue (and I would) that the rules should be different, and he certainly shouldn't be passing himself off as a regular guy, but given the current rules I don't see any problems.

This is the old standard tagline.....

The Top 30 American companies spend more on lobbying than they do on taxes. They purposely pay a literal army of lobbyists to fill the taxcode with as many worm holes and loop holes as possible in the taxcode to keep from paying taxes. They fight tooth and nail to prevent anyone from closing those loopholes. Then they throw up their hands and say "Don't look at me. I'm not at fault. What do you want me to do? I'm merely playing by the rules I'm told to play by."

Fark them and fark anyone who thinks that's acceptable.


You think I don't know that? You think I like it? Of course not. I'd like all of that to change. But Romney filed those taxes under that system.
 
2012-01-25 11:54:36 AM
Cletus C.: The most notable question about Romney's tax returns is "how dare you be rich? How dare you?"

As usual republicans don't understand the issue, It isn't the fact the dude makes money it is the fact that his tax plan is designed to benefit him the most at the expense of middle class and poor Americans and the fact that he is a douche who tries to come off as a common man who knows the plight of the American middle class.

on a related note, why are middle class republicans so quick to vote against their best finnancial interests?
 
2012-01-25 11:56:08 AM
FreakinB: thurstonxhowell: FreakinB: Look, I'm no Romney supporter. I plan on voting for Obama regardless of Romney's taxes. But if all Romney's done is what I've seen so far, he's done nothing wrong or illegal. You could argue (and I would) that the rules should be different, and he certainly shouldn't be passing himself off as a regular guy, but given the current rules I don't see any problems.

I agree that they don't show that he's done anything illegal (wrong is a bit more subjective). They are nice to have around as something to point to when I argue that capital gains should be taxed as income.

True, it's more subjective. But personally, in this area, I consider anything legal to be ok. There are other areas where there could be a disconnect between what's legal and what's right, but I don't think personal tax planning isn't one of them. There's no direct harm on someone else*, and anyone who is entitled to a benefit under the rules would be a fool not to take it. Everyone else will.

*there is indirect harm, but that's caused more by the rules than the person



Romney is arguing that we should lower his taxes even further, and that the lower/middle class isn't paying their fair share. Then his taxes become relevant.
 
2012-01-25 11:56:24 AM
Giltric: I guess nothing's going to stick. I better start using words many 12 year olds have outgrown.
 
2012-01-25 11:58:15 AM
Giltric: We have 9% unemployment and wealthy people paying hardly anything in taxes and you sit here worrying about memes.

Says the paid troll who spends his day correcting punctuation on Fark.
 
2012-01-25 11:58:38 AM
Shvetz: Romney is arguing that we should lower his taxes even further, and that the lower/middle class isn't paying their fair share. Then his taxes become relevant

Oh yeah, absolutely. I agree with that. I'm just getting a lot of "how could he get away with that?" vibes from people.
 
2012-01-25 11:58:46 AM
Giltric: We have 9% unemployment and wealthy people paying hardly anything in taxes and you sit here worrying about memes.

I thought we were supposed to worry about GE. Oh wait, I forgot, we're supposed to not worry about rich people's low tax rates at all because something something Soros.
 
2012-01-25 11:58:59 AM
thurstonxhowell: Giltric: I guess nothing's going to stick. I better start using words many 12 year olds have outgrown.

wow dude you are so obsessed.

did i humiliate you with a facial and not call again?

/you are female, right?
 
2012-01-25 11:59:00 AM
Headso: on a related note, why are middle class republicans so quick to vote against their best finnancial interests?

Ain't no middle class; just inconvenienced millionaires (to truncate Steinbeck).
 
2012-01-25 12:00:15 PM
Superjew: Giltric: We have 9% unemployment and wealthy people paying hardly anything in taxes and you sit here worrying about memes.

Says the paid troll who spends his day correcting punctuation on Fark.


you would do it too if you knew how much you could get paid.
 
2012-01-25 12:00:51 PM
Giltric: We have 9% unemployment and wealthy people paying hardly anything in taxes and you sit here worrying about memes.

Haha, you're a tool. Between the two of us, you're a shill on the Internet and I'm working with Occupy. But, hey, it's not like projecting your own crimes and sins isn't the rightist national pastime.
 
2012-01-25 12:05:02 PM
I'm not a tax expert but if Mitt gives, say, $1MM to the church and the church then gives that amount to Mitt's PAC, hasn't he effectively managed to make funding his own PAC a tax deduction?

/Citizens United
/Mountain Meadows
/Other things I don't like
 
2012-01-25 12:09:45 PM
A Dark Evil Omen: Giltric: We have 9% unemployment and wealthy people paying hardly anything in taxes and you sit here worrying about memes.

Haha, you're a tool. Between the two of us, you're a shill on the Internet and I'm working with Occupy. But, hey, it's not like projecting your own crimes and sins isn't the rightist national pastime.


Shill is such a strong word.

I believe a person should be able to keep as much of their income as possible within the rules, but not all.

It shouldn't matter if you make 20k a year or 20m a year. When we start seeing companies with mega profits skate by without paying anything we need to revisit the rules.

I also think that corporations should be paying a majority if not all of the taxes....but tyring to prevent the corporation form passing it on to the consumer is another problem.

Occupy was a good thing....I was waiting for that ball to really get going but it never did, it should have called itself the Seinfeld protest....cause it was all about nothing.

There once was a time when liquor taxes paid for almost everything but we wanted government to provide us with more then the liquor taxes could pay for.
 
2012-01-25 12:09:48 PM
Headso: Cletus C.: The most notable question about Romney's tax returns is "how dare you be rich? How dare you?"

As usual republicans don't understand the issue, It isn't the fact the dude makes money it is the fact that his tax plan is designed to benefit him the most at the expense of middle class and poor Americans and the fact that he is a douche who tries to come off as a common man who knows the plight of the American middle class.

on a related note, why are middle class republicans so quick to vote against their best finnancial interests?


Jesus
 
2012-01-25 12:19:13 PM
Headso: Cletus C.: The most notable question about Romney's tax returns is "how dare you be rich? How dare you?"

As usual republicans don't understand the issue, It isn't the fact the dude makes money it is the fact that his tax plan is designed to benefit him the most at the expense of middle class and poor Americans and the fact that he is a douche who tries to come off as a common man who knows the plight of the American middle class.

on a related note, why are middle class republicans so quick to vote against their best finnancial interests?


I get it. You're a lib. But the "at the expense of the middle class and poor" crap shows you're in too deep.
 
2012-01-25 12:19:55 PM
Giltric: Occupy was a good thing....I was waiting for that ball to really get going but it never did, it should have called itself the Seinfeld protest....cause it was all about nothing.

Sorry, broseph, we're still here.
 
2012-01-25 12:24:08 PM
A Dark Evil Omen: Giltric: Occupy was a good thing....I was waiting for that ball to really get going but it never did, it should have called itself the Seinfeld protest....cause it was all about nothing.

Sorry, broseph, we're still here.


Good for ya.

Haven't heard anything in a while....I figured it was backpack across Europe season and everyone left to hit up the trust fund before flying across the pond.
 
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