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(Miami Herald)   Obama: I'm sorry that my State of the Union milk joke sucked, but I was too busy directing the military to invade Somalia on a hostage rescue mission to write a better one   (miamiherald.com) divider line 383
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2012-01-25 10:18:10 AM  
Obama doesn't write his own speeches. He doesn't even orate his own speeches, he goes everywhere with a teleprompter.
 
2012-01-25 10:18:14 AM  

White Rose Duelist: Thunderpipes: Obama poops, Farkers call him a hero, news at 11:00!

Getting pretty pathetic in here guys.

But heh, if he gets elected, we get another 10 trillion in debt, woot! We can just tax rich people more!

[www.washingtonpost.com image 500x362]

Sorry, try again.


You're a farking dumbass who can't read charts.

Hint: look at the dates at the bottom.
 
2012-01-25 10:19:05 AM  

Wyalt Derp: Alphax: Well, I haven't heard the milk joke yet, just talk about it.. so I dunno how bad it actually is.

Unfortunately he ruined the punchline by forgetting to don his sunglasses.


Ok, you got a "funny" click for that. I actually laughed, imagining it.


/YYYYYYYYYEEEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!
 
2012-01-25 10:19:57 AM  
Wow. This sounds exactly like the movie about to come out, Act of Valor....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nrhd2WPd64E
 
2012-01-25 10:20:08 AM  

j0ndas: Obama doesn't write his own speeches. He doesn't even orate his own speeches, he goes everywhere with a teleprompter.


He can go everywhere with a puppet on his hand for all I care. Let's judge him based on what he actually does.

/Will not be voting for him.
 
2012-01-25 10:20:19 AM  

way south: MisterBill: way south: /Unless presidents are personally leading raids then the kudos points belong only to the men on the ground.

If he's going to get blamed for it if it goes wrong, he gets credit when it goes right.

No he doesn't, because the blame and the reward are never shared equally between the man in the cushy leather chair and the guy who had to jump out the back of a plane to do the job.
He isn't the one who had to soldier through all the operations gone wrong in Somalia, Iraq, or Afghanistan to learn his lessons on how to perfect such missions. He isn't the one that's at risk to be killed, disavowed, or found hanging from a bridge when something goes wrong.
He isn't the one that has to take a political turd of a policy and shine it into a golden victory with his own sweat. So I don't see why he should be the one who gets the first hand shake when something finally falls into place.

He gets a golf clap for choosing the most politically opportune moment to launch a raid suggested, planned, and executed by actual military folk.
...Which, if it happened under a president we didn't like, would probably draw everything but an atta-boy response.


The failed rescue of the hostages in Iran doomed Carter's already shaky presidency. He got the blame for the military's FUBAR. If Obama gave the go-ahead for the mission and we ended up with 20 dead SEALs instead of two live hostages, you can be pretty certain Obama is going to catch a ton of shiat from Republican and the "liberal" press. Obama takes the ultimate blame for the failure of the mission. He shares in the credit for its success.
 
2012-01-25 10:24:03 AM  

j0ndas: Obama doesn't write his own speeches. He doesn't even orate his own speeches, he goes everywhere with a teleprompter.


He's the first person in high office ever to use a teleprompter, or so I heard on Fox and Friends. And the words on the teleprompter aren't even in English. They're written in Muslim, and he just interprets them on the fly so we don't know about it.
 
2012-01-25 10:27:31 AM  

corn-bread: Pay attention American ex-pats, it could be you next time.
*THIS* is why you pay U.S. taxes when overseas.


Oh, bullshiat. I pay US taxes while getting zero benefit from them because my constituency (Americans who live overseas) is tiny in relation to most Americans who still live in the country, most of whom think there's something suspicious about people who like living elsewhere (or, you know, had to because their partners couldn't get into the country).
 
2012-01-25 10:27:34 AM  

Im_Gumby: Hmmm... yet another successful military action.

He's really not giving the Rs an inch on the defence of the country theme they used to be able to use.


I take it you haven't been paying attention to the Republican spin: Obama doesn't believe in American exceptionalism and has spent his term apologizing to the world for America being the greatest country in the world. Add in cutting the military by massive amounts, his unwillingness to protect America by declaring war on Iran, and his hatred of Israel and you have the worst foreign policy ever.
 
2012-01-25 10:29:25 AM  
hehe good one subs. That joke was terrible
 
2012-01-25 10:30:32 AM  

Grungehamster: I take it you haven't been paying attention to the Republican spin: Obama doesn't believe in American exceptionalism


isn't that the same spin liberals use as well? Which is it? Is Obama an American Exceptionalist or not?
 
2012-01-25 10:32:15 AM  

Whodat: Will he be sending in a SEAL team for every hostage situation now? Seems like a strange precedent to set.

BTW, XveryYpettyZ,
Definition of ASSASSINATE
transitive verb
1: to injure or destroy unexpectedly and treacherously
2: to murder (a usually prominent person) by sudden or secret attack often for political reasons

So the use of the term "assassinate" is appropriate.


So killing a kidnapper in a hostage situation is assassination. Gotcha.

j0ndas: Obama doesn't write his own speeches. He doesn't even orate his own speeches, he goes everywhere with a teleprompter.


So has every president since Eisenhower. Come up with new jokes.
 
2012-01-25 10:32:19 AM  

bugontherug: Whodat: Will he be sending in a SEAL team for every hostage situation now? Seems like a strange precedent to set.

BTW, XveryYpettyZ,
Definition of ASSASSINATE
transitive verb
1: to injure or destroy unexpectedly and treacherously
2: to murder (a usually prominent person) by sudden or secret attack often for political reasons

So the use of the term "assassinate" is appropriate.

Not according to those definitions. Sure, the kidnappers were injured or destroyed, but not "treacherously." And since they were international kidnappers operating in a de facto anarchy guarding a prisoner with lethal force, there existed a legal privilege to kill them. Therefore, killing them was not "murder."


My reply was in response to AverageAmericanGuy speaking of the assassination of Bin Laden. In that instance the second definition is appropriate.

I am still wondering if he is going to start sending in a SEAL team when there is a hostage stand off at the local Quikie Mart or does it just have to be in a foreign, sovereign country.
 
2012-01-25 10:32:22 AM  
This thread is full of trolls and butthurt.
 
2012-01-25 10:33:51 AM  
did anyone else notice Mitch Daniels accusing Obama of a trickle down approach, and that it was his "grand experiment"? Do these guys not even realize what they're saying anymore?
 
2012-01-25 10:34:56 AM  

colithian: Whodat: Will he be sending in a SEAL team for every hostage situation now? Seems like a strange precedent to set.

BTW, XveryYpettyZ,
Definition of ASSASSINATE
transitive verb
1: to injure or destroy unexpectedly and treacherously
2: to murder (a usually prominent person) by sudden or secret attack often for political reasons

So the use of the term "assassinate" is appropriate.

So killing a kidnapper in a hostage situation is assassination. Gotcha.

j0ndas: Obama doesn't write his own speeches. He doesn't even orate his own speeches, he goes everywhere with a teleprompter.

So has every president since Eisenhower. Come up with new jokes.


At least try to follow along with the thread. My response was in relation to the killing of Bin Laden in Pakistan as brought up by AverageAmericanGuy.
 
2012-01-25 10:35:30 AM  

Jackson Herring: Fista-Phobia:

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[i.imgur.com image 67x18]
[i.imgur.com image 67x18]


I'd pay 5 bucks for those buttons.
 
2012-01-25 10:35:46 AM  

Jack Black 62: Fart_Machine: This thread is full of trolls and butthurt.

eople who actually use their fingers to type out the 'word' "butthurt" are pretty much socially retarded.


No, that's just you.
 
2012-01-25 10:35:47 AM  

Jack Black 62: Fart_Machine: This thread is full of trolls and butthurt.

eople who actually use their fingers to type out the 'word' "butthurt" are pretty much socially retarded.


Says the butthurt troll.
 
2012-01-25 10:36:00 AM  
Dude...wait, what?

www.amoeba.com
 
2012-01-25 10:37:25 AM  

Whodat: I am still wondering if he is going to start sending in a SEAL team when there is a hostage stand off at the local Quikie Mart or does it just have to be in a foreign, sovereign country.


My uncle used to do hostage negotiations. he said that most if not nearly all of the time in domestic hostage situations, you solve the problem with conversation, empathy, and time.

But I'm sure the scary fartbongo will be sending the Black Panthers to your home tonight to take your guns, money, and women so as to give them to scary black men.
 
2012-01-25 10:38:03 AM  

Grungehamster: I take it you haven't been paying attention to the Republican spin: Obama doesn't believe in American exceptionalism and has spent his term apologizing to the world for America being the greatest country in the world


What's funny is that, to many people outside the US, Obama is the very embodiment of American exceptionalism. In how many other countries could the son of an African immigrant, growing up in one of the most remote parts of the country, become head of state? Not that Fox cares what foreigners think.

/except that old guy from Australia
 
2012-01-25 10:38:09 AM  
I can only hope the Obama administration continues to handle foreign policy wrong on each and every matter. Everything, and I mean everything they have done from Iraq, to Bin Laden, to Libya, to Somali pirates, to Iran, to Afganistan and anything else they have done that I don't know about has been bungled beyond belief.

You can be sure I would have handled each matter differently and with a different outcome. You can count on me America, to make the right choices to ensure our country does not continue to be a laughingstock around the world for our absolutely failure of a foreign policy. Thank you.

Mitt Romney
 
2012-01-25 10:38:28 AM  

PanicMan: I'm glad he's approving this kind of mission.

And that was such a "dad joke". I bet he embarrasses his daughters all the time.


When he was taking Congress to task for the debt ceiling fiasco he said something like "Who benefited from those shenanigans?" At the time I thought it sounded EXACTLY like the kind of thing he would say to Sasha and Malia after they got into some sort of shenanigans. Very dadlike.
 
2012-01-25 10:39:17 AM  

CapnBlues: did anyone else notice Mitch Daniels accusing Obama of a trickle down approach, and that it was his "grand experiment"? Do these guys not even realize what they're saying anymore?


hehe I did note the "trickle down". Flipped back to Xbox after that
 
2012-01-25 10:40:42 AM  

T-Servo: What's funny is that, to many people outside the US, Obama is the very embodiment of American exceptionalism. In how many other countries could the son of an African immigrant, growing up in one of the most remote parts of the country, become head of state? Not that Fox cares what foreigners think.


Nairobi isn't really all that remote dude.
 
2012-01-25 10:40:52 AM  

Lsherm: President Barack Obama himself authorized the mission two days earlier, and minutes after he gave his State of the Union address to Congress he was on the phone with the American's father to tell him his daughter was safe.


Well, unless that guy is a monumental dickhead, we all know who he's voting for this year.

/has anybody said "Amurikah, fark yeah!" yet?
 
2012-01-25 10:41:24 AM  
Jessica Buchanan, daughter of John Buchanan....open secrets has a John Buchanan as one of Obamas Inauguration donors and a lobbyist.

But with so many Americans being held around the world.......why rescue this one?
 
2012-01-25 10:41:30 AM  

pedobearapproved: At least 9 people died to save the lives of two. The US government took their lives at the request of a single person without trial. What would have been the cost of saving those two? Would have been less than the cost of the mission which cut 9 young men down in their prime. Did we even get the person in charge directing all of this? Think of the suffering now upon the families that these men came from. Their wives will be scared for life, with no other source of income and the children grow up without a father. The memories and hard lessons these men had to learn amount to nothing. They are no longer able to share their mistakes and regrets. They are no longer able to share their culture and heritage with their children. And for what, a political point earned?


I think we found www.thefakemustache.com's FARK handle.
 
2012-01-25 10:43:12 AM  

skullkrusher: CapnBlues: did anyone else notice Mitch Daniels accusing Obama of a trickle down approach, and that it was his "grand experiment"? Do these guys not even realize what they're saying anymore?

hehe I did note the "trickle down". Flipped back to Xbox after that


When he uttered that phrase, I actually experienced something I've never experienced before. I don't know what exactly to call it, but it alarmed the cat. The best name for it I think would be "rage belch."
 
2012-01-25 10:45:04 AM  

skullkrusher: T-Servo: What's funny is that, to many people outside the US, Obama is the very embodiment of American exceptionalism. In how many other countries could the son of an African immigrant, growing up in one of the most remote parts of the country, become head of state? Not that Fox cares what foreigners think.

Nairobi isn't really all that remote dude.


Yeah, nice try. Kisumu isn't in Nairobi.
 
2012-01-25 10:45:17 AM  

supayoda: I'm going to come right out and admit my guilt right now. I did chuckle a bit at the milk joke.


You know why it was funny, because your partially laughing at the stupid politicians who thought it would be a good law in the first place. THAT is why everyone is so angry about the joke in the media. they are defending their purchased representatives who voted for that bills passing and are angered that they are made to look like the fools they really are.
 
2012-01-25 10:45:45 AM  

someonelse: skullkrusher: CapnBlues: did anyone else notice Mitch Daniels accusing Obama of a trickle down approach, and that it was his "grand experiment"? Do these guys not even realize what they're saying anymore?

hehe I did note the "trickle down". Flipped back to Xbox after that

When he uttered that phrase, I actually experienced something I've never experienced before. I don't know what exactly to call it, but it alarmed the cat. The best name for it I think would be "rage belch."


hehe
 
2012-01-25 10:47:20 AM  

machoprogrammer: I think the hero tag is more deserved for the people doing the actual mission, but still pretty bad ass.


Who did you think it was for?

All of us, sitting here commenting on this thread from our mothers' basements? Because that's who I thought it was for. Article fails for not mentioning the contributions of the 101st keyboard brigade.
 
2012-01-25 10:48:18 AM  

skullkrusher: CapnBlues: did anyone else notice Mitch Daniels accusing Obama of a trickle down approach, and that it was his "grand experiment"? Do these guys not even realize what they're saying anymore?

hehe I did note the "trickle down". Flipped back to Xbox after that


WTF. Sirrously? F'rill? Honkey say what?

Damn, I'm going to go punch a cat. That's just...damn.

/Didn't watch either
/Read SOTU transcript
 
2012-01-25 10:48:55 AM  

Fuggin Bizzy: Who did you think it was for?


Obama?
 
2012-01-25 10:48:57 AM  
Does anyone know if this was what Obama was referring to when he said something like "Good job last night!" (or something like that) to Panetta before the SOTU address?
 
2012-01-25 10:49:01 AM  

Stabone33: TheCenturion: Clancy called it again, right down to the qat. Debt of Honor, opening, I think.

Here's my tinfoil hat theory:

Tom Clancy was one of our Cold War era CIA's most effective weapons. He was fed intelligence about Soviet war plans (Red Storm Rising), weapon development projects (Cardinal of the Kremlin, The Hunt for Red October), and successful clandestine operations that made the Soviets look bad (that book whose title I can't remember about the Pope assassination plot where they smuggled the turncoat dude out in the back of some shiatbox car...that one kinda sucked). It was all a grand strategy to tell the Soviets, "hey -- look how good our intelligence is...there's not a damn thing you can do that we won't find out about. We're so good we even let our people write novels about it. You might as well just give up."

I also seem to vaguely remember some third-page Washington Post blurb several years ago where some CIA agent who was the most successful case officer in Moscow got some award on his retirement, and his name was given as "M.P.", which (as a female), was one of the main characters in Cardinal. Spent all afternoon a couple weeks ago GIS'ing for that, and I couldn't find it.


Red Rabbit
 
2012-01-25 10:49:13 AM  

someonelse: skullkrusher: CapnBlues: did anyone else notice Mitch Daniels accusing Obama of a trickle down approach, and that it was his "grand experiment"? Do these guys not even realize what they're saying anymore?

hehe I did note the "trickle down". Flipped back to Xbox after that

When he uttered that phrase, I actually experienced something I've never experienced before. I don't know what exactly to call it, but it alarmed the cat. The best name for it I think would be "rage belch."


it's really amazing, though, isn't it? Spend thirty years pushing trickle-down policies, crippling the nation's economy and political process as a result, then blame it on the new guy. really, it's something I had thought Mitch Daniels was better than. He's supposed to be one of their serious/sane people, isn't he?
 
2012-01-25 10:49:34 AM  

Fuggin Bizzy: All of us, sitting here commenting on this thread from our mothers' basements? Because that's who I thought it was for. Article fails for not mentioning the contributions of the 101st keyboard brigade.


Chairborn Rangers! First to know, last to go!
 
2012-01-25 10:50:26 AM  

Jairzinho: Does anyone know if this was what Obama was referring to when he said something like "Good job last night!" (or something like that) to Panetta before the SOTU address?


that's what i've been hearing. dunno what else he would have been referring to, unless it was a generalized "hey, good first couple weeks on the job"
 
2012-01-25 10:52:14 AM  

Jairzinho: Does anyone know if this was what Obama was referring to when he said something like "Good job last night!" (or something like that) to Panetta before the SOTU address?


www.midseasonreplacements.com
 
2012-01-25 10:55:07 AM  
Count me on the "America, fark yeah!" wagon.

And the milk joke was a moaner.
 
2012-01-25 10:55:20 AM  
Obama will sell his brothers out in a heartbeat.
 
2012-01-25 10:58:00 AM  

Giltric: But with so many Americans being held around the world.......why rescue this one?


are there a lot of americans being held hostage by forceful means these days?

/haven't much knowledge about these things
 
2012-01-25 11:00:08 AM  
Came here to be jingoistic...totally outgunned.
 
2012-01-25 11:02:38 AM  

Giltric: Jessica Buchanan, daughter of John Buchanan....open secrets has a John Buchanan as one of Obamas Inauguration donors and a lobbyist. But with so many Americans being held around the world.......why rescue this one?


Podesta Group?
 
2012-01-25 11:02:40 AM  

skullkrusher: Grungehamster: I take it you haven't been paying attention to the Republican spin: Obama doesn't believe in American exceptionalism

isn't that the same spin liberals use as well? Which is it? Is Obama an American Exceptionalist or not?


I believe in American exceptionalism, just as I suspect that the Brits believe in British exceptionalism and the Greeks believe in Greek exceptionalism. I'm enormously proud of my country and its role and history in the world. If you think about the site of this summit and what it means, I don't think America should be embarrassed to see evidence of the sacrifices of our troops, the enormous amount of resources that were put into Europe postwar, and our leadership in crafting an Alliance that ultimately led to the unification of Europe. We should take great pride in that.

And if you think of our current situation, the United States remains the largest economy in the world. We have unmatched military capability. And I think that we have a core set of values that are enshrined in our Constitution, in our body of law, in our democratic practices, in our belief in free speech and equality, that, though imperfect, are exceptional.

Now, the fact that I am very proud of my country and I think that we've got a whole lot to offer the world does not lessen my interest in recognizing the value and wonderful qualities of other countries, or recognizing that we're not always going to be right, or that other people may have good ideas, or that in order for us to work collectively, all parties have to compromise and that includes us.

And so I see no contradiction between believing that America has a continued extraordinary role in leading the world towards peace and prosperity and recognizing that that leadership is incumbent, depends on, our ability to create partnerships because we create partnerships because we can't solve these problems alone.
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SUMMARY: Obama believes that America is a great nation (and indeed superior to all others) due to the great works it has done and due to the attitudes, sacrifices, and general efforts of her people. However, he rejects the concept that America is superior to all other nations by virtue of its very existance and believes we should work to live up to this greatness rather than assume inherent superiority due to birthright.
 
2012-01-25 11:06:34 AM  

Fista-Phobia: I'd pay 5 bucks for those buttons.


For five bucks I'll make you a half dozen more that say anything you want =p
 
2012-01-25 11:11:23 AM  
Clearly Obama is the Capitulator In Chief and of course all credit for this goes to George W Bush.

Thank you Mr. Bush.
 
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