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(AP)   Nation's oldest federal judge dies at 104. In other news, there was a 104 year old federal judge   (hosted.ap.org) divider line 72
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2012-01-24 06:01:59 PM
He had very good behavior.
 
2012-01-24 06:03:23 PM
Anderson recalled an incident that occurred when Brown was about 98. A cell phone started ringing in the courtroom - twice. Nervous lawyers pulled out their cell phones to make sure they were turned off. Then, while sorting through some paperwork on the bench, the judge realized it was his own cell phone that had gone off.

"He immediately fined himself $100 and held himself in contempt and said, `I guess I learned my lesson,'" Anderson recalled.


Awesome.
 
2012-01-24 06:05:53 PM
Who better? He was there when the laws were written.



paging Mr. Slant.
 
2012-01-24 06:12:33 PM
I read that as Feral Judge and the mental picture it created still has me giggling.
 
2012-01-24 06:13:58 PM
Wow. What a man. A true public servant who will be missed. If only all the other judges out there had that kind of dedication.

"I do it to be a public service," Brown said in the AP interview. "You got to have a reason to live. As long as you perform a public service, you have a reason to live."

"He frequently encouraged - or, you know, frankly even admonished us - to remember that our duty as judges was to take the responsibility for the administration of justice in our courtrooms and collectively in our district court," Melgren said. "He was very committed to it."
 
2012-01-24 06:39:30 PM
His grandfather could have met Lincoln.
 
2012-01-24 06:39:59 PM
the life he must have lived.
WWI, great depresion, WWII cold war, korea, vietnam. un believable.
no electricity and phones to smart phones.
HG wells fiction to a man on the moon.
what an amazing time to be alive.
 
2012-01-24 06:41:36 PM
Dude couldn't give up the gravy train ... pulling down six figures into his 100's
 
2012-01-24 06:42:09 PM
And I bet he had no clue what an internet is.
 
2012-01-24 06:42:14 PM
 
2012-01-24 06:42:28 PM
What the judge might look like after a couple of weeks off (with that kind of work ethic)
i76.photobucket.com
 
2012-01-24 06:44:23 PM
Pretty sure he was the one that ruled on SOPA
 
2012-01-24 06:45:16 PM
At 104 years old, you shouldn't be allowed to drive, let alone be a federal court judge. There are plenty of things he could have done to remain connected and vital, but allowing a 104 year old to adjudicate and interpret law is not one of them.

No judge, in any court should be appointed for life. They should all be elected and all have term limits. why is it the judicial branch is the only branch that has "lifetime" appointments in this country?

I'm sure he was a wonderful man and accomplished much in life, but if this was your grandfather, at 104 you wouldn't let him salt his own food let alone make decisions that could potentially affect the lives of every American citizen in some way.

All this story does is bother me and illustrate how much shiat is wrong with this country.
 
2012-01-24 06:45:18 PM
"Okay we're going to pay a lawyer a large sum of public money to serve as a judge, which do you choose, the 65 year old dude or the 100 year old dude?"

"I'll go with the guy wearing Depends"
 
2012-01-24 06:46:22 PM

four95: No judge, in any court should be appointed for life. They should all be elected and all have term limits. why is it the judicial branch is the only branch that has "lifetime" appointments in this country?


Article III, § 1 of the US Constitution.
 
2012-01-24 06:47:49 PM

RexTalionis: four95: No judge, in any court should be appointed for life. They should all be elected and all have term limits. why is it the judicial branch is the only branch that has "lifetime" appointments in this country?

Article III, § 1 of the US Constitution.


It's just a goddamn piece of paper
 
2012-01-24 06:49:49 PM
Jesus, when this guy started he was probably Judge Judy and Executioner.
 
2012-01-24 06:51:12 PM
boston-legal.org

"Do you know what my mother would call you? A namby-pamby. Weak and spineless."
 
2012-01-24 06:52:34 PM
It's hard to believe his mind was still that sharp. My grandparents are well into their 90's, don't get me wrong, they're still sharp, but get confused sometimes. The only thing I can think of when my grandfather is calling me Mike (my brother), and how the honeymoon was (he got married recently), and confusing my petite white g/f with Mike's wife (a latina bronzed skinned woman) it to just smile and be friendly.
/we joke, that'll be us 60 years.
 
2012-01-24 06:55:43 PM

BigLuca: RexTalionis: four95: No judge, in any court should be appointed for life. They should all be elected and all have term limits. why is it the judicial branch is the only branch that has "lifetime" appointments in this country?

Article III, § 1 of the US Constitution.

It's just a goddamn piece of paper


Its not part of the Bill of Rights so it still counts.
 
2012-01-24 06:55:57 PM

BigLuca:
Article III, § 1 of the US Constitution.

It's just a goddamn piece of paper


You must be from Chicago.
 
2012-01-24 06:57:25 PM

TravisBickle62: Dude couldn't give up the gravy train ... pulling down six figures into his 100's


He would get full salary until he died anyway. He chose to keep working, because he liked doing it and thought it was important. Which is great.

four95: No judge, in any court should be appointed for life. They should all be elected and all have term limits. why is it the judicial branch is the only branch that has "lifetime" appointments in this country?


Because of judicial independence, which is a very hard thing to get right, and a whole lot of countries screw it up and their systems go to hell as a result. If you ensure that judges can't be easily removed, can't be defunded (you can't cut a federal judges salary, and in the event of a government shutdown they still have to be paid), you hopefully place them beyond political pressures. They're free to piss off congress, and they're free to make rulings against a government prosecution without fear of reprisal.

Senior status, which a judge can take after so many years of service, is a way to help with judges who are too old to do the work. They can retire and take a caseload they're comfortable with, and other judges they work with and their clerks can and will let them know if it's time to quit. If they still refuse to, they can just give that judge nothing but complex and incredibly boring tax cases until he gets the hint (yeah, that's happened).
 
2012-01-24 06:58:31 PM
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He never did figure out what a "yewt" was.
 
2012-01-24 07:00:56 PM

BigLuca: It's just a goddamna piece of paper

that needs serious review and changes to bring it up to date with the times. FTFY

The average life expectancy when the Constitution was ratified was 36.9 years so a lifetime appointment wasn't quite the same as it is today.
 
2012-01-24 07:00:58 PM

four95: At 104 years old, you shouldn't be allowed to drive, let alone be a federal court judge. There are plenty of things he could have done to remain connected and vital, but allowing a 104 year old to adjudicate and interpret law is not one of them.

No judge, in any court should be appointed for life. They should all be elected and all have term limits. why is it the judicial branch is the only branch that has "lifetime" appointments in this country?

I'm sure he was a wonderful man and accomplished much in life, but if this was your grandfather, at 104 you wouldn't let him salt his own food let alone make decisions that could potentially affect the lives of every American citizen in some way.

All this story does is bother me and illustrate how much shiat is wrong with this country.


Well, the lifetime appointments and guaranteed salary are a way to insulate federal judges from outside pressure. An insular judiciary is more able to make impartial decisions. The benefits of the insulation most likely outweigh any risk posed by your concerns. His tenure and age are far from common. Moreover, in this instance it seems that the judge performed his duties admirably up until he died.
 
2012-01-24 07:01:27 PM

LeroyBourne: It's hard to believe his mind was still that sharp. My grandparents are well into their 90's, don't get me wrong, they're still sharp, but get confused sometimes. The only thing I can think of when my grandfather is calling me Mike (my brother), and how the honeymoon was (he got married recently), and confusing my petite white g/f with Mike's wife (a latina bronzed skinned woman) it to just smile and be friendly.
/we joke, that'll be us 60 years.


Yeah, that's not really still sharp. Not as severe memory loss as many, but that's still not an automatic thing.

My one remaining grandparent is 90, and still completely there. He's still going strong, and could probably still kick somebody's ass.
 
2012-01-24 07:01:48 PM
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RIP Judge Happy Boyle (does anyone even REMEMBER Ally McBeal now??)
 
2012-01-24 07:02:52 PM
"Dadgummit I can't masturbate to this, bring in a lawyer with big tits and some makeup for God's sake, my dick is getting softer by the minute and the Viagra isn't kicking in"
 
2012-01-24 07:04:21 PM

four95: BigLuca: It's just a goddamna piece of paper that needs serious review and changes to bring it up to date with the times. FTFY

The average life expectancy when the Constitution was ratified was 36.9 years so a lifetime appointment wasn't quite the same as it is today.


Be sure to read the response to your comments made by cptjeff.
 
2012-01-24 07:04:28 PM
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2012-01-24 07:06:05 PM
Yep.
I remember him. He thought highly of hangin'.
I once shared a cell with another outlaw of note....we both managed to get away,and, well, FARK YOU Judge! I WIN, Biatch!
 
2012-01-24 07:06:18 PM

four95: BigLuca: It's just a goddamna piece of paper that needs serious review and changes to bring it up to date with the times. FTFY

The average life expectancy when the Constitution was ratified was 36.9 years so a lifetime appointment wasn't quite the same as it is today.


I hate that stupid line. Filter out childhood deaths, and you have a number closer to 60 something. The average means very little. If you lived past 12 or so, you had a pretty good shot at not dying until you were elderly. Well, if you were male. A large number of women died during childbirth.

Serious review needs to happen, but it needs to happen by people familiar with the history and what various things were actually intended to accomplish. Not every random dope on the street is qualified to opine on things like that with any credibility.
 
2012-01-24 07:07:19 PM
At least eight other federal judges are in their 90s, according to a federal court database.

Whoa! Does anyone know how many federal judges there are?

That strikes me as a high number of 90+ year olds in a specific profession.

Do they drink the blood of the youthful and rakish criminals they convict?

but seriously though... good on him. I just hope he wasn't an authoritarian dick clinging to life just to punish.
 
2012-01-24 07:08:18 PM

four95: The average life expectancy when the Constitution was ratified was 36.9 years so a lifetime appointment wasn't quite the same as it is today.


Only because of the high childhood and infant mortalities dragging it down. If you're out of your adolescence, you can expect to live to 50-60. The average life expectancy of the Founding Fathers, who tended to be wealthier individuals (as you would imagine a Supreme Court judge would likely be) was around 67. John Adams died at the age of 90.
 
2012-01-24 07:12:36 PM
"Nation's oldest federal judge dies at 104. In other news, there was a 104 year old federal judge"

That explains a lot.
 
2012-01-24 07:13:29 PM

four95: BigLuca: It's just a goddamna piece of paper that needs serious review and changes to bring it up to date with the times. FTFY

The average life expectancy when the Constitution was ratified was 36.9 years so a lifetime appointment wasn't quite the same as it is today.


The average life expectancy of judges was 36.9?

Citation needed
 
2012-01-24 07:14:12 PM
There are many ancient federal judges. Appointment for life, baby!
 
2012-01-24 07:15:05 PM

BigLuca: RexTalionis: four95: No judge, in any court should be appointed for life. They should all be elected and all have term limits. why is it the judicial branch is the only branch that has "lifetime" appointments in this country?

Article III, § 1 of the US Constitution.

It's just a goddamn piece of paper


Hmmm you do realize that's what hitler would say if he was making the laws or you know...someone who wanted to trash the constitution
 
2012-01-24 07:18:07 PM

KentuckyBob: [3.bp.blogspot.com image 320x130]


Came for this, leaving happy.
 
2012-01-24 07:20:04 PM

Oznog: RIP Judge Happy Boyle (does anyone even REMEMBER Ally McBeal now??)


Was that the one about the dancing baby and the anorexic chick?
 
2012-01-24 07:24:43 PM
Please let it be the guy handling the patent trolls of East Texas....

RTFA...

Nuts, not him. And for those complaining about these "for life" appointments, keep in mind the judicial branch is the only branch that can think about the long term. The executive is out in 8 years max, and the legislative is constantly working to be re-elected. So we need people who will be around for 20-40 years to maintain continuity.
 
2012-01-24 07:25:25 PM

cptjeff: Serious review needs to happen, but it needs to happen by people familiar with the history and what various things were actually intended to accomplish. Not every random dope on the street is qualified to opine on things like that with any credibility.


There is no one qualified to assess what any of those things were meant to accomplish when they were written simply because the Founding Fathers could not possibly have foreseen the country, or the world for that matter, as it is today. They were idealists, not clairvoyants. If Franklin or Jefferson or (insert Founding Father name here) were alive today to see how their ideas are interpreted to suit modern times at the whims of the present day government , they would probably begin by writing a new Declaration of Independance and forming another new nation.

We have grown, no strike that, mutated into a system that would be almost totally unrecognizable to the men that founded this country.
 
2012-01-24 07:25:50 PM

here to help: At least eight other federal judges are in their 90s, according to a federal court database.

Whoa! Does anyone know how many federal judges there are?

That strikes me as a high number of 90+ year olds in a specific profession.

Do they drink the blood of the youthful and rakish criminals they convict?

but seriously though... good on him. I just hope he wasn't an authoritarian dick clinging to life just to punish.


It's a large number. There's something like 60 Art III judges in NYC. Including the Ct. of App,. I would guess there are over 3,000 Art. III judges across the country.
 
2012-01-24 07:28:30 PM

LeroyBourne: /we joke, that'll be us 60 years


Yeah right. If I make it to 40 I'll be written up in medical journals.
 
2012-01-24 07:37:39 PM

Civil Discourse: It's a large number. There's something like 60 Art III judges in NYC. Including the Ct. of App,. I would guess there are over 3,000 Art. III judges across the country.


Thanks.

Even at 3000 it seems like a lot. Maybe they weren't referring to sitting judges.
 
2012-01-24 07:43:35 PM

TravisBickle62: Dude couldn't give up the gravy train ... pulling down six figures into his 100's


From TFA - As a federal judge, Brown could have retired at full salary, but he never had a real interest in that, Melgren said.

Seems like it didn't matter if he worked or not, he would have made the same money.
 
2012-01-24 07:43:41 PM
Interesting tag?

I think scary is more appropriate.
 
2012-01-24 07:45:14 PM

four95: At 104 years old, you shouldn't be allowed to drive, let alone be a federal court judge. There are plenty of things he could have done to remain connected and vital, but allowing a 104 year old to adjudicate and interpret law is not one of them.

No judge, in any court should be appointed for life. They should all be elected and all have term limits. why is it the judicial branch is the only branch that has "lifetime" appointments in this country?

I'm sure he was a wonderful man and accomplished much in life, but if this was your grandfather, at 104 you wouldn't let him salt his own food let alone make decisions that could potentially affect the lives of every American citizen in some way.

All this story does is bother me and illustrate how much shiat is wrong with this country.


And women shouldn't be allowed to vote right? They don't have the same mental capacities you do (thank god). At 104 this guy had far more wits about him than your puny intellect can comprehend.
 
2012-01-24 07:47:39 PM
If he would have made it to 120, he would have automatically become President.
 
2012-01-24 08:05:22 PM
Judge: Drop the vernacular!
Curly: It's a Doiby!
 
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