Isnt ancestry.com a Mormon soul-sucking re-baptism front?

They were just pining for the fjords.

Having an actual ancestry book as large and in depth as it is, because of our Mormon ancestors, is kind of interesting.

I'm a bastard descendant of royalty. Isn't that interesting?

Runs_With_Scissors_: Angry Drunk Bureaucrat: rocinante721: Isnt ancestry.com a Mormon soul-sucking re-baptism front?

It was founded by Mormons, presumably as a re-baptism researcher, but it is a publicly traded company.

Say what you want about the LDS, but damn they do good genealogy research.

... to baptize dead people.

They may be efficient, but it doesn't change the fact that their primary interest is to swell the ranks of mormons - living or dead. Oh, and make money..

Still a good service. I mean, I don't hate on Chick-Fil-A just because they're fundamentalists.

I thought Ancestry.com was where you went if you stole someones CC number and needed account details/maiden names and such....

/just sayin

Sasquach: I thought Ancestry.com was where you went if you stole someones CC number and needed account details/maiden names and such....

/just sayin

good luck with that. Their records are rather thin for people who are still alive or recently deceased.

I'm big into Ancestry.com as it seems to be the most reliable source of genealogical information. After much research, I found out that I'm the direct descendant of President James K. Polk. Pretty cool to have documentation that shows I'm an heir to one of the greatest presidents ever to hold power.

Runs_With_Scissors_: Angry Drunk Bureaucrat: rocinante721: Isnt ancestry.com a Mormon soul-sucking re-baptism front?

It was founded by Mormons, presumably as a re-baptism researcher, but it is a publicly traded company.

Say what you want about the LDS, but damn they do good genealogy research.

... to baptize dead people.

They may be efficient, but it doesn't change the fact that their primary interest is to swell the ranks of mormons - living or dead. Oh, and make money..

Meh, if you don't believe in it anyway, then it makes no practical difference. I use ancestry.com and find it to be helpful, and if the Mormons use the data in some silly ceremony, then so be it -- the dead people won't notice or care.

...and there's nothing wrong with making money if you provide a useful good or service in exchange for that money.

spentmiles: I'm big into Ancestry.com as it seems to be the most reliable source of genealogical information. After much research, I found out that I'm the direct descendant of President James K. Polk. Pretty cool to have documentation that shows I'm an heir to one of the greatest presidents ever to hold power.

Now I KNOW you are a troll! Franklin Pierce wipes the floor with Polk's face!

One little problem and everyone gets upset. Pick, pick, pick

spentmiles: I'm big into Ancestry.com as it seems to be the most reliable source of genealogical information. After much research, I found out that I'm the direct descendant of President James K. Polk. Pretty cool to have documentation that shows I'm an heir to one of the greatest presidents ever to hold power.

Little known fact, due to an obscure federal law, Polk's heirs own Mount Rushmore. So congrats landowner.

The VA literally can not do anything right.

Literally.

I see many here who have a problem with freedom of information.

rocinante721: Isnt ancestry.com a Mormon soul-sucking re-baptism front?

soul sucking??? a front??

What is your problem, scooter??

jackbooty: The VA literally can not do anything right.

Literally.

I hear their enemas are pretty effective. You should try one.

jigger: I see many here who have a problem with freedom of information.


Fixed it for you!!

netweavr: I don't hate on Chick-Fil-A just because they're fundamentalists.

I hate on them because of their crappy dry chicken sandwiches.

spentmiles: I'm big into Ancestry.com as it seems to be the most reliable source of genealogical information. After much research, I found out that I'm the direct descendant of President James K. Polk. Pretty cool to have documentation that shows I'm an heir to one of the greatest presidents ever to hold power.

In 1844, the Democrats were split
The three nominees for the presidential candidate
Were Martin Van Buren, a former president and an abolitionist
James Buchanan, a moderate
Lewis Cass, a general and expansionist
From Nashville came a dark horse riding up
He was James K. Polk, Napoleon of the Stump

Austere, severe, he held few people dear
His oratory filled his foes with fear
The factions soon agreed
He's just the man we need
To bring about victory
Fulfill our manifest destiny
And annex the land the Mexicans command
And when the vote was cast the winner was
Mister James K. Polk, Napoleon of the Stump

In four short years he met his every goal
He seized the whole southwest from Mexico
Made sure the tariffs fell
And made the English sell the Oregon territory
He built an independent treasury
Having done all this he sought no second term
But precious few have mourned the passing of
Mister James K. Polk, our eleventh president
Young Hickory, Napoleon of the Stump

Came here for this, went away disappointed:

jigger: I see many here who have a problem with freedom of information.

I'm of the opinion that SSNs shouldn't be provided for anyone living or dead. Just what we need is criminals creating fake identities using deceased people's SSNs

Benni K Rok: Having an actual ancestry book as large and in depth as it is, because of our Mormon ancestors, is kind of interesting.

I'm a bastard descendant of royalty. Isn't that interesting?

I once met a guy who would be somewhere in the French order of succession if they reinstated the monarchy, so I'm not incredibly impressed.

Basically, a somewhat minor branch of that royal family fled to Calais when the revolution hit, gave a fake name to get on a ship to quebec, and used a tweaked version of their original name there.

My ancestry is kind of interesting. The irish roots go way back, I'm descended from several old gaelic royal families-which means less, since the Gaelic system had local kings, regional ones, and a high king- but one of those families is the O'Neil, which held the high kingship for centuries. The recent history is less interesting, the ones who immigrated were mostly escaping the potato famine, though one was given the option of leaving the country or a long prison sentence for stealing horses. But Gaelic ancestries can be traced further back than any western group apart from the jews, so there's some interesting stuff kicking around in there.

My polish side isn't as dignified. Bunch of peasant farmers and smugglers, though in more recent times, a second cousin a couple times removed was killed in Auschwitz for giving 2 slices of bread to a passing jew. That branch still lives over there, and our family got to visit on a trip over there (in Oświęcim, the german of which is Auschwitz), which was cool.

suid: Came here for this, went away disappointed:

Lol Bring out yur dead!!!!

Old man: but sir I ain't dead yet!

Benni K Rok: Having an actual ancestry book as large and in depth as it is, because of our Mormon ancestors, is kind of interesting.

I'm a bastard descendant of royalty. Isn't that interesting?

So instead of just being a pain in the ass, you're a royal pain in the ass?

Benni K Rok: Having an actual ancestry book as large and in depth as it is, because of our Mormon ancestors, is kind of interesting.

I'm a bastard descendant of royalty. Isn't that interesting?

Genealogy is great.

I'm estranged from my family, and Ancestry.com has helped put me in contact with a few of them(I signed up, filled out my tree as far as I could, and people contact me every once in a while asking me if I am related to so-and-so

My wife is descended from George Clinton(first governor of New York). Her mother's family has a published book on their genealogy(well, of the founding families of the town they settled in sometime in the 1700 or 1800s) that traces the lineage from Ireland in the 1600s to the early 1900s, though.

jigger: I see many here who have a problem with freedom of information.

Freedom? Try pay-out-the-nosedom.

spentmiles: I'm big into Ancestry.com as it seems to be the most reliable source of genealogical information. After much research, I found out that I'm the direct descendant of President James K. Polk. Pretty cool to have documentation that shows I'm an heir to one of the greatest presidents ever to hold power.

Polk was the worst president evar! the guy before him was way better, Polk messed it all up. if only he hadn't stolen the election, the other party might have made this country better.

/i feel like you were setting that up...

With my luck, once again, the VA won't get around to me until 3 years after identity theft....and then not fix it for another year after. For some reason, I don't think credit monitoring services can make up for less than ethical practices.

rocinante721: Isnt ancestry.com a Mormon soul-sucking re-baptism front?

The LDS and Ancestry.com had an unamicable split a few years back. There's a major PR offensive being waged by the LDS against Ancestry.com and some of their claims can be called outlandish to the point of being science fiction.

Ancestry.com is a useful tool, and it's based out of Provo. They're a corporation out to make a boat load of cash, as opposed to indoctrination. They care less about your eternal soul rather than your immediate wallet. LDS are great researchers, but many of the people involved with their genealogy business are certifiable nutjobs.

cptjeff: Benni K Rok: Having an actual ancestry book as large and in depth as it is, because of our Mormon ancestors, is kind of interesting.

I'm a bastard descendant of royalty. Isn't that interesting?

I once met a guy who would be somewhere in the French order of succession if they reinstated the monarchy, so I'm not incredibly impressed.

Basically, a somewhat minor branch of that royal family fled to Calais when the revolution hit, gave a fake name to get on a ship to quebec, and used a tweaked version of their original name there.

My ancestry is kind of interesting. The irish roots go way back, I'm descended from several old gaelic royal families-which means less, since the Gaelic system had local kings, regional ones, and a high king- but one of those families is the O'Neil, which held the high kingship for centuries. The recent history is less interesting, the ones who immigrated were mostly escaping the potato famine, though one was given the option of leaving the country or a long prison sentence for stealing horses. But Gaelic ancestries can be traced further back than any western group apart from the jews, so there's some interesting stuff kicking around in there.

My polish side isn't as dignified. Bunch of peasant farmers and smugglers, though in more recent times, a second cousin a couple times removed was killed in Auschwitz for giving 2 slices of bread to a passing jew. That branch still lives over there, and our family got to visit on a trip over there (in Oświęcim, the german of which is Auschwitz), which was cool.

I think it's probably more impressive because it traces all the way back to some time in BC, through the old English monarchy.

When you join the military, you should just go ahead and post your SSN on 4chan. That way there will be no surprises.

Inquizition: I'm of the opinion that SSNs shouldn't be provided

I agree. It should be abolished.

rocinante721: Isnt ancestry.com a Mormon soul-sucking re-baptism front?

That they are and they made a lot of money doing it and it supports their Social Conservative agendas. I guess since I am a vet I might soon be converted. "I am a vet and I am a not by choice a converted Mormon."

Benni K Rok: I think it's probably more impressive because it traces all the way back to some time in BC, through the old English monarchy.

If you trace mine straight up the male line, high kings, you go all the way back to Eochu Feidlech (well, that's as far as wikipedia goes), whose reign as high king is dated either from 48-44 BC, 94-82 BC, or 143-131 BC, depending on the source. He was the father of Medb, who became a somewhat mythical character in irish folklore.

You can go even further from the Connachta, up through the Fins (back to Eber Finn in either 1287 BC or 1700 BC, depending on source), to Míl Espáine, who was the leader of a a force of Iberian Gaels that invaded ireland.

There's some thought that Mil Espaine was a sham to provide historical cover for a group that invaded in around the 1st or second centuries, BC, but that fraud would have been perpetrated beginning in the 5th century AD or something like that.

Anyway, Gaelic heritages can be traced back a while.

cptjeff: If you trace mine straight up the male line, high kings, you go all the way back to Eochu Feidlech (well, that's as far as wikipedia goes)

Sorry, forgot to take this out. Wiki goes back further, just not directly linking "son of" bits. You can still dig up members of the various clans.

Reasons the Army needs to go back to using service numbers, not social security numbers include...

You want to use my service number to get something but don't have the DD214? Have fun with that.

You want to use my social to get something? errr, wait, don't have fun with that! Don't!

jackbooty: The VA literally can not do anything right.

Literally.

Which is par for the course with most civilian government employees,

r1niceboy: rocinante721: Isnt ancestry.com a Mormon soul-sucking re-baptism front?

Ancestry.com is a useful tool, and it's based out of Provo. They're a corporation out to make a boat load of cash, as opposed to indoctrination. They care less about your eternal soul rather than your immediate wallet. LDS are great researchers, but many of the people involved with their genealogy business are certifiable nutjobs.

Your last point is definitely true. For example, even on Ancestry.com there are a number of "Da Vinci Code" fanatics who've gotten through. You'll be pursuing an interesting branch of your family tree through the Middle Ages only to find out it leads to Mary Magdalene and You-Know-Who in which case you've only discovered that YOU'VE BEEN DAN BROWNED!

Anyway, as for me, the most interesting and notable person whom I've discovered I'm directly related to is this guy. Apparently distrust of organized religion is something that runs in my family.

KrispyKritter SmartestFunniest 2012-01-24 03:47:46 PM


considering we are overdue for a gov't employee to leave a laptop stuffed with eyes-only data on a public bus or bench, this not so bad.


They are all encrypted.....now....

My great-uncle researched back generations. . .some ancestors back the the early 18th century. Very well researched.


On my dad's side it is your great-great-great-grandparents came over from Scotland. One from Kyle, and one from Lauder.

Broktun

NDP2: r1niceboy: rocinante721: Isnt ancestry.com a Mormon soul-sucking re-baptism front?

Ancestry.com is a useful tool, and it's based out of Provo. They're a corporation out to make a boat load of cash, as opposed to indoctrination. They care less about your eternal soul rather than your immediate wallet. LDS are great researchers, but many of the people involved with their genealogy business are certifiable nutjobs.

Your last point is definitely true. For example, even on Ancestry.com there are a number of "Da Vinci Code" fanatics who've gotten through. You'll be pursuing an interesting branch of your family tree through the Middle Ages only to find out it leads to Mary Magdalene and You-Know-Who in which case you've only discovered that YOU'VE BEEN DAN BROWNED!

Anyway, as for me, the most interesting and notable person whom I've discovered I'm directly related to is this guy. Apparently distrust of organized religion is something that runs in my family.

I always trust a leaf on that site as much as I do a politician's promise. I think it less about conspiracy than people wanting to say they have a famous ancestor. For example, my wife's aunt swears she's related to Mary Todd Lincoln. I did some research and discovered she's in the same species, but that's about it.

As for me, I'm proud there's almost nobody famous in my family, but it's well recorded through the English Quaker line, but does end up hitting nobility during the 15th century and back through European royalty during the 12th century. From there you've got Charlemagne and the likes. My wife and I did a genetic test and we've got a common ancestor at about that time. She's related to Edward Longshanks, again, via Quakers. I might be too, but can't find the evidence.

jackbooty: The VA literally can not do anything right.

Literally.

Honestly, if the VA is going to dump Veterans' data out, why make it so difficult to volunteer there? Why force people to renew volunteer status every single month?

When I volunteered I had been out of work for years, by the time my paperwork was done and I was officially approved to volunteer, I'd gotten a job. Now, I don't want to volunteer again because I feel so guilty about all the work people there put into getting me approved last time.

Sounds like a decent start for a Bond plot

jigger: netweavr: I don't hate on Chick-Fil-A just because they're fundamentalists.

I hate on them because of their crappy dry chicken sandwiches.

One of my kids has informed me "When I turn fourteen, I'm getting a job at Chick-Fil-A. Then, I'll be a rich and I'll buy a car like Bumblebee."
"Okay." I said.