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SphericalTime
2012-01-24 01:32:56 PM
That's probably why he had no choice but to go into sports. It's not like we hire hockey players for their understanding of law and society.
tnpir
2012-01-24 01:33:30 PM
Which he has every right to do.
And we have every right to point out he's a whiny, self-centered douchebag for doing it.
I_Am_Weasel
2012-01-24 01:44:14 PM
SphericalTime
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That's probably why he had no choice but to go into sports. It's not like we hire hockey players for their understanding of law and society.
keylock71
2012-01-24 01:46:47 PM
Lame, selfish move on Timmy's part...
It was a team honor and he turned it into a story about himself and his opinions.
I would say the same thing if he refused to meet with Bush or another Republican President.
But, whatever... It was his decision to be made.
mitchcumstein1
2012-01-24 01:56:08 PM
Wait, wait, wait, you have an opportunity to actually meet the man that's the head of one of the branches of government you say that have grown out of control and tell him what you think, and you don't take it? Instead, you make some comment on Facebook...farking Facebook?
You're a farking idiot.
Which I guess is his right as an American.
sigdiamond2000
2012-01-24 01:57:20 PM
keylock71
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Lame, selfish move on Timmy's part...
It was a team honor and he turned it into a story about himself and his opinions.
I would say the same thing if he refused to meet with Bush or another Republican President.
But, whatever... It was his decision to be made.
This.
I don't give sh*t one about his politics, but I think it's ridiculously childish to skip a ceremony honoring your team just because the President makes your tummy hurt.
In the end, forgetting about politics, it's putting yourself above the team and it's going to hurt the locker room.
MaudlinMutantMollusk
2012-01-24 02:00:47 PM
Puck off, target boy
Cyberluddite
2012-01-24 02:18:09 PM
As I mentioned in a redlighted headline I submitted yesterday, I think the real issue is that he was afraid to be in the same room with one of those scary-looking Negro guys. Which is understandable--he's a hockey player, so he's probably never seen a black person in real life, and new experiences like that can seem frightening.
keylock71
2012-01-24 02:29:51 PM
Cyberluddite
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As I mentioned in a redlighted headline I submitted yesterday, I think the real issue is that he was afraid to be in the same room with one of those scary-looking Negro guys. Which is understandable--he's a hockey player, so he's probably never seen a black person in real life, and new experiences like that can seem frightening.
Think you need to update your hockey jokes, my friend...
Etc. Etc.
keylock71
2012-01-24 02:33:19 PM
...and just because I'm a Bruins' fan:
Blackneto
2012-01-24 02:41:03 PM
keylock71
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...and just because I'm a Bruins' fan:
[www.blogcdn.com image 424x333]
Ahh comeon, you got Subban but missed Ray Emery?
Blackneto
2012-01-24 02:41:55 PM
keylock71
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Cyberluddite: As I mentioned in a redlighted headline I submitted yesterday, I think the real issue is that he was afraid to be in the same room with one of those scary-looking Negro guys. Which is understandable--he's a hockey player, so he's probably never seen a black person in real life, and new experiences like that can seem frightening.
Think you need to update your hockey jokes, my friend...
[upload.wikimedia.org image 230x254]
this one of course being subban. bleah
sigdiamond2000
2012-01-24 02:42:56 PM
keylock71
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I'm a Bruins' fan
I'm getting a pretty strong "we can't stand this asshole" vibe from the comments I've read from Bruins execs and players about this controversy. What's your take?
keylock71
2012-01-24 02:51:40 PM
Blackneto
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keylock71: ...and just because I'm a Bruins' fan:
[www.blogcdn.com image 424x333]
Ahh comeon, you got Subban but missed Ray Emery?
I know I missed a bunch... just Googling off the top of my head.
As a token of my remorse here's Emery and Snoop Dog wearing a Sens Sweater : )
Blackneto
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this one of course being subban. bleah
Yeah, he's a pud. No argument there...
sigdiamond2000
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keylock71: I'm a Bruins' fan
I'm getting a pretty strong "we can't stand this asshole" vibe from the comments I've read from Bruins execs and players about this controversy. What's your take?
Eh, don't think it's going to effect the team one way or the other... I'm sure Chirelli and Neely were pissed and embarrassed, but their business is winning hockey games and as long as Thomas keeps his farked up political opinions (He's a big fan of Glen Beck apparently) mostly to himself and keeps stopping the pucks from going in the net, everything will be just fine.
sigdiamond2000
2012-01-24 02:54:43 PM
keylock71
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Eh, don't think it's going to effect the team one way or the other... I'm sure Chirelli and Neely were pissed and embarrassed, but their business is winning hockey games and as long as Thomas keeps his farked up political opinions (He's a big fan of Glen Beck apparently) mostly to himself and keeps stopping the pucks from going in the net, everything will be just fine.
I guess he is a goalie after all. They're not exactly known for being well-adjusted human beings
Rev.K
2012-01-24 03:00:06 PM
I don't see what the big deal is, I'm sure everyone would have been fine if Scott Gomez hadn't gone to the White House in 2003 in protest of the Iraq War.
Right?
keylock71
2012-01-24 03:00:45 PM
sigdiamond2000
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I guess he is a goalie after all. They're not exactly known for being well-adjusted human beings
I had no idea he was a Teabagger type, myself... Thought he had a bit more cop on than that.
tallguywithglasseson
2012-01-24 03:00:50 PM
He's a big Tea Party supporter, so when he says it's "not about party", you can believe him. I'm sure he would have skipped it if it were President Bush... [/sarcarsm]
Either way, I think those pointing out he took a team honor/event and made it about
him
and
his opinions
have the right of it. His right to do so and all that, but he looks like a self-important d-bag.
Jake Havechek
2012-01-24 03:12:11 PM
Stay in the crease, block shots, and shut the fark up, meat head.
2wolves
2012-01-24 03:15:01 PM
Tell me how bad you have it Mr. Thomas...
Bonus points if you know who he is.
what_now
2012-01-24 03:23:56 PM
sigdiamond2000
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I'm getting a pretty strong "we can't stand this asshole" vibe from the comments I've read from Bruins execs and players about this controversy. What's your take?
I'm hugely political, and my friend runs a hockey blog. We were just talking about this a few minutes ago, and neither of us knew Timmeh was a teabagger.
He embarrassed himself, really. It's a photo op. For Obama, it was likely the 48th least important thing he had to do that day. For Thomas, it could have been a chance to air his grievances.
I don't really care either way. At the end of the day, we pay him to stop pucks. If he keeps doing that, I'm gonna keep cheering for him.
I still have a Curt Schilling jersey, and he was FAR derpier.
FreakinB
2012-01-24 03:29:44 PM
keylock71
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Cyberluddite: As I mentioned in a redlighted headline I submitted yesterday, I think the real issue is that he was afraid to be in the same room with one of those scary-looking Negro guys. Which is understandable--he's a hockey player, so he's probably never seen a black person in real life, and new experiences like that can seem frightening.
Think you need to update your hockey jokes, my friend...
[upload.wikimedia.org image 230x254]
[2.bp.blogspot.com image 259x390]
[static6.businessinsider.com image 400x300]
[upload.wikimedia.org image 220x396]
[upload.wikimedia.org image 200x259]
[upload.wikimedia.org image 225x269]
Etc. Etc.
How dare you omit.
keylock71
2012-01-24 03:34:13 PM
FreakinB
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How dare you omit.
Not on purpose, of course... Just trying to remember names off the top of my head. Short term memory loss is a biatch. : )
what_now
2012-01-24 03:40:09 PM
Rev.K
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I don't see what the big deal is, I'm sure everyone would have been fine if Scott Gomez hadn't gone to the White House in 2003 in protest of the Iraq War.
Right?
Carlos Delgado refused to stand for the National Anthem for a while, IIRC. It wasn't that big of a deal.
Rev.K
2012-01-24 03:41:45 PM
what_now
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Carlos Delgado refused to stand for the National Anthem for a while, IIRC. It wasn't that big of a deal.
I didn't know that, but that surprises me.
I don't see that being quite on par with being invited to the White House, but I can certainly see that ruffling a few feathers.
I'm surprised it didn't.
what_now
2012-01-24 03:44:17 PM
Ehh...it was actually God Bless America, which is an annoying song. So never mind.
He is also against the occupation of Iraq. In the 2004 season, Delgado protested the war by silently staying in the dugout during the playing of "God Bless America" during the seventh inning stretch. Delgado does not make a public show of his beliefs, and even his teammates were not aware of his views until a story was published in July 2004 in the Toronto Star. Delgado was quoted as saying "It's a very terrible thing that happened on September 11. It's (also) a terrible thing that happened in Afghanistan and Iraq, ... I just feel so sad for the families that lost relatives and loved ones in the war. But I think it's the stupidest war ever." The story was the subject of a media frenzy, mostly in New York, where on July 21, 2004, as was anticipated, Delgado was booed by Yankee fans for his passive protest during a game at Yankee Stadium.[25] Delgado had explained that the playing of "God Bless America" had come to be equated with a war in which he didn't believe. In a New York Times interview, Delgado said this is what he believed in, and "It takes a man to stand up for what he believes." After being traded to the Mets, in a conciliatory measure, Delgado opted to stand during the singing of "God Bless America."
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keylock71
2012-01-24 03:53:06 PM
what_now
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Ehh...it was actually God Bless America, which is an annoying song.
"You got that right, Sister..."
FreakinB
2012-01-24 03:58:15 PM
keylock71
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FreakinB: How dare you omit.
Not on purpose, of course... Just trying to remember names off the top of my head. Short term memory loss is a biatch. : )
No worries, just messing. Anyway, on the topic at hand, Thomas has every right to do that. Personally I'd suck it up even if I disagreed but, you know, America.
Nina_Hartley's_Ass
2012-01-24 04:03:27 PM
Oh, a "Free Citizen."
Probably just avoiding a security check.
GAT_00
2012-01-24 04:08:43 PM
Rev.K
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what_now: Carlos Delgado refused to stand for the National Anthem for a while, IIRC. It wasn't that big of a deal.
I didn't know that, but that surprises me.
I don't see that being quite on par with being invited to the White House, but I can certainly see that ruffling a few feathers.
I'm surprised it didn't.
I've gotten yelled at before because I don't put my hand on my heart for the national anthem.
Weigard
2012-01-24 04:14:28 PM
On the bright side, the Bruins now get to send an extra skater to the White House.
21-37-42
2012-01-24 04:16:51 PM
Maybe he couldn't pass the background check and is putting a positive spin on it when the reality is that he wasn't ALLOWED to go...
/Did he help Glen hide the body?
puckrock2000
2012-01-24 04:17:20 PM
2wolves
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Tell me how bad you have it Mr. Thomas...
(Sawchuk pic)
Bonus points if you know who he is.
Bonus points if you know those are
fake stitches applied for the sake of the photo.
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robsul82
2012-01-24 04:17:27 PM
ds_4815
2012-01-24 04:22:31 PM
From
Down Goes Brown
: "[The Leafs] may finally be able to get a win against the Bruins this year, now that they know that Tim Thomas will refuse to show up if you just crowd enough left wingers around him.
Farkin A
2012-01-24 04:23:52 PM
What a selfish prick thinking he has the right to his own opinions.
Dinobot
2012-01-24 04:25:09 PM
Wow... the comments in the article are full of derp.
Resolute
2012-01-24 04:25:36 PM
Rev.K
:
what_now: Carlos Delgado refused to stand for the National Anthem for a while, IIRC. It wasn't that big of a deal.
I didn't know that, but that surprises me.
I don't see that being quite on par with being invited to the White House, but I can certainly see that ruffling a few feathers.
I'm surprised it didn't.
As I recall, it did. Much like this issue, people talked, some complained, and it went away.
As far as Thomas goes, douchebag move on his part. Not because it turns out he is a teabagger, but because he put himself ahead of his teammates. I mean, you can go to war against a team for seven games and shake their hands afterward, but you can't go to the White House and shake the President's hand? C'mon Timmy....
Locker room political discussions between Thomas and Ference must be entertaining.
redpanda2
2012-01-24 04:27:59 PM
tallguywithglasseson
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He's a big Tea Party supporter, so when he says it's "not about party", you can believe him. I'm sure he would have skipped it if it were President Bush... [/sarcarsm]
Either way, I think those pointing out he took a team honor/event and made it about him and his opinions have the right of it. His right to do so and all that, but he looks like a self-important d-bag.
That's really why it lowers my opinion of him. He's feeding the standard tea party lines. It's not about party, but we sure as shiat didn't get riled up until the Dems took over, since their version of big government is money for infrastructure instead of starting wars.
And saying that his Facebook message is the only public statement he's going to make--it might be that he's not presuming to know more about politics than anyone else and therefore not using his celebrity to push his agenda, or it might be that his beliefs aren't well thought through enough for him to be able to competently defend them when he's inevitably asked about them. And he shouldn't be making such big statements about beliefs he hasn't though through that well.
2wolves
2012-01-24 04:28:50 PM
puckrock2000
:
2wolves: Tell me how bad you have it Mr. Thomas...
(Sawchuk pic)
Bonus points if you know who he is.
Bonus points if you know those are fake stitches applied for the sake of the photo. (new window)
Ok, we'll ignore the 600 stitches he did have. Just for you.
Cymbal
2012-01-24 04:29:07 PM
Teabagger attention whore thinks Obama and other government officials actually give a shiat what he thinks. How quaint.
He must have been a blast to hang out with in the locker room after they won the Stanley Cup.
bottsicus
2012-01-24 04:29:33 PM
Big Bruins fan here, and I think this was a pretty classless move, especially when you consider that the few people left working for GM in Thomas's hometown of Flint are probably there largely because of the government bailout of GM.
puckrock2000
2012-01-24 04:29:52 PM
Funny how Tank's objections to the Federal government didn't stop him from accepting an invitation to play on the US Olympic team, nor did it stop him from accepting his silver medal for playing a grand total of 11 minutes of garbage time against Finland. If they had won the gold, would he have blown off a White House visit then?
21-37-42
2012-01-24 04:30:56 PM
Best In The World
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"If you have ten thousand regulations you destroy all respect for the law."- Winston Churchill
What's a matter, homeboy? Never seen a blackman in a suit b4? If U don't like tha President than why don't U move back to UR own country U uppity canadian prick. Oh, & UR logic don't even make sense. If it ain't about party or politicks, than what the hell is it about? Way 2 make ur stupid issue bigga than the team U foreign POS. I still got love for you though, & I have to forgive U but right now my anger is at 11.
Let me respond to you in words you will understand:
/Jersey douchebag on
Imma lay it out 4 u like dis: Timmeh was born in da USA. U be frontin for no gd reasin. Trn ur frwn upsdwn...
/Jersey douchebag off
wooden_badger
2012-01-24 04:31:53 PM
Biggest BS was saying that he dislikes both parties. Sounds like if there were a Republican in the White House he'd stay at home too.
Though we'll never know because when his career is ending Obama will still be President.
Didn't seem to affect his accepting his Olympic medal, did it.
Timmeh has the right to skip a team function. The team (his employer) has the right to sit his ass.
Tukka Time
nodubs
2012-01-24 04:31:56 PM
sigdiamond2000
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keylock71: Eh, don't think it's going to effect the team one way or the other... I'm sure Chirelli and Neely were pissed and embarrassed, but their business is winning hockey games and as long as Thomas keeps his farked up political opinions (He's a big fan of Glen Beck apparently) mostly to himself and keeps stopping the pucks from going in the net, everything will be just fine.
I guess he is a goalie after all. They're not exactly known for being well-adjusted human beings
Hey! I resemble that remark!
bottsicus
2012-01-24 04:31:58 PM
Resolute
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Rev.K: what_now: Carlos Delgado refused to stand for the National Anthem for a while, IIRC. It wasn't that big of a deal.
I didn't know that, but that surprises me.
I don't see that being quite on par with being invited to the White House, but I can certainly see that ruffling a few feathers.
I'm surprised it didn't.
As I recall, it did. Much like this issue, people talked, some complained, and it went away.
As far as Thomas goes, douchebag move on his part. Not because it turns out he is a teabagger, but because he put himself ahead of his teammates. I mean,
you can go to war against a team for seven games and shake their hands afterward, but you can't go to the White House and shake the President's hand?
C'mon Timmy....
Locker room political discussions between Thomas and Ference must be entertaining.
Great point.
swahnhennessy
2012-01-24 04:33:35 PM
FREE CITIZEN.
Killer Cars
2012-01-24 04:33:49 PM
Resolute
:
Locker room political discussions between Thomas and Ference must be entertaining.
I'm sure they have had discussions before. A locker room of athletes doesn't have the same PC restrictions of not talking about "God, Gays & Guns" that most white-collar work environments have (maybe not literal restrictions placed down by HR, but complicit understanding of not bringing up politics and such), yet teammates spend more time together than I do with my coworkers. Things outside of hockey just have to come up on team bus rides, team meals, etc...
It wouldn't surprise me if many of the Bruins are a bit irked that he decided to stay home, but I find it hard to believe they weren't at least somewhat aware of his political leanings.
ElwoodCuse
2012-01-24 04:38:50 PM
my other favorite DGB line about this was "let's see what Timmy thinks about the right of billionaire businessmen to crush unions come September"
fyi noted political statesman and deep thinker JOEY PORTER even shut his mouth and fell in line after the Steelers won Super Bowl XL and got invited to the GWB's White House
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