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Dog fighting, through the eyes of MSNBC: Michael Vick does it: It's horrific, savage, barbaric, cruel, criminal activity. Afghans do it: They're sharing in a noble tradition that dates back hundreds of years
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walkerhound
2012-01-24 10:47:57 AM
FTA:
"the owners do not want their animals to get hurt."
I'd bet Vick, or any dog fighter in the US, didn't want their dogs to get hurt, either.
/farking lieberal media
Jon H
2012-01-24 10:49:31 AM
No class
/both that region and msnbc
xanadian
2012-01-24 10:55:46 AM
Interesting, my ass.
/[SICK] tag busy puking on [STUPID] tag
R.A.Danny
2012-01-24 10:57:52 AM
Are we judging other cultures with our own set of societal mores?
I know I am.
MaudlinMutantMollusk
2012-01-24 11:09:18 AM
I've heard that in some places they actually
eat
dogs
/you'd probably get in trouble for that here, too
Jake Havechek
2012-01-24 11:25:36 AM
Wow, i didn't know that ugly ignorant coont Whoopi Goldberg was from Afghanistan!
Kazan
2012-01-24 11:28:33 AM
walkerhound
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/farking
lieberal
corporateidiot media
Rapmaster2000
2012-01-24 01:24:58 PM
Technically, both of those things could be true.
I_C_Weener
2012-01-24 01:25:56 PM
If a Mormon has 3 wives, its illegal. If a Saudi prince has 3 wives....they still aren't allowed to drive a car.
Headso
2012-01-24 01:26:20 PM
walkerhound
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I'd bet Vick, or any dog fighter in the US, didn't want their dogs to get hurt, either.
didn't he smash out their teeth with a hammer and electrocute one to death or something?
Marine1
2012-01-24 01:26:56 PM
R.A.Danny
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Are we judging other cultures with our own set of societal mores?
I know I am.
You get to do that when your society isn't a complete wreck and theirs is.
gunther_bumpass
2012-01-24 01:27:02 PM
I'm gonna go ahead and rank this alongside such esteemed traditions as "celebratory gunfire" and "marrying a twelve-year-old".
SoCalSurfer
2012-01-24 01:27:43 PM
Man, screw dog fights. I want to witness a cock fight
monoski
2012-01-24 01:28:20 PM
MaudlinMutantMollusk
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I've heard that in some places they actually eat dogs
/you'd probably get in trouble for that here, too
Yep
Link
(new window into yummy dog meat)
1derful
2012-01-24 01:28:35 PM
I shot my dog, man!
mekkab
2012-01-24 01:28:38 PM
So is THAT why my black afghan hound wants to tussle with every dog in sight?
/the brown one is frightened by butterflies
//To be fair, that butterfly came out of no where...
Egoy3k
2012-01-24 01:28:55 PM
I_C_Weener
:
If a Mormon has 3 wives, its illegal. If a Saudi prince has 3 wives....they still aren't allowed to drive a car.
This one bothers me, setting aside the abuse that is common in some bigamist families if I as an adult found two other adults who wanted to be my spouse what business is it of anyone but us?
Tryfan
2012-01-24 01:29:02 PM
Afghanis would still be in the stone age if it wasn't for the rest of the world. They don't represent a standard people should be aspiring to.
peterthx
2012-01-24 01:29:03 PM
walkerhound
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FTA: "the owners do not want their animals to get hurt."
I'd bet Vick, or any dog fighter in the US, didn't want their dogs to get hurt, either.
Is this sarcasm?
Or did you miss it where the multi-millionaire drowned and strangled losing dogs.
HailRobonia
2012-01-24 01:29:38 PM
walkerhound
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FTA: "the owners do not want their animals to get hurt."
I'd bet Vick, or any dog fighter in the US, didn't want their dogs to get hurt, either.
/farking lieberal media
Of course you don't want your dog to get hurt. You want
the other
dog to get hurt.
Headso
2012-01-24 01:30:37 PM
SoCalSurfer
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Man, screw dog fights. I want to witness a cock fight
true story, I went to a bullfight in mexico and they opened it with a cockfight.
THX 1138
2012-01-24 01:30:54 PM
Marine1:
You get to do that when your society isn't a complete wreck and theirs is.
Well, I've been listening to the Republican debates recently and apparently ours is a complete wreck also. It's a dire situation and America desperately needs to be "taken back" and "restored" OR ELSE.
SharkTrager
2012-01-24 01:31:07 PM
I_C_Weener
:
If a Mormon has 3 wives, its illegal. If a Saudi prince has 3 wives....they still
aren't allowed to drive a car
.
Does this Saudi prince have a newsletter to which I cam subscribe?
Flakeloaf
2012-01-24 01:31:42 PM
Know how I know subby didn't read the article? These dogs grab and hold the other dog until the ref decides the dominance display is complete. The dogs are then separated. Competing dogs' owners have humungous investments in their animals and respect each other enough to not want any of the dogs to get hurt.
URAPNIS
2012-01-24 01:33:39 PM
"I'll take care of this!"
redmid17
2012-01-24 01:33:40 PM
Headso
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SoCalSurfer: Man, screw dog fights. I want to witness a cock fight
true story, I went to a bullfight in mexico and they opened it with a cockfight.
If I'm ever in the Phillipines, PR, or Guam I plan on taking a gander.
JohnAnnArbor
2012-01-24 01:34:20 PM
Egoy3k
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I_C_Weener: If a Mormon has 3 wives, its illegal. If a Saudi prince has 3 wives....they still aren't allowed to drive a car.
This one bothers me, setting aside the abuse that is common in some bigamist families if I as an adult found two other adults who wanted to be my spouse what business is it of anyone but us?
That will be the argument. Someone will bring a case based on equality or simply contract law. And then we shall see.
LegacyDL
2012-01-24 01:34:55 PM
As much as dog fighting is bad, the simple fact is that if anyone does anything for a long time it's considered tradition and then from that tradition it becomes part of the culture.
PirateFreedom
2012-01-24 01:34:55 PM
SharkTrager
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I_C_Weener: If a Mormon has 3 wives, its illegal. If a Saudi prince has 3 wives....they still aren't allowed to drive a car.
Does this Saudi prince have a newsletter to which I cam subscribe?
they got a whole damn Book but it's written in arabic
// spoiler alert : it's anti bacon!
kbronsito
2012-01-24 01:35:21 PM
While I don't want to support dog fighting, these people don't have cable or the interwebs. So it's either this or beheading women in stadiums.
ChrisDe
2012-01-24 01:35:39 PM
If these Afghans aren't behaving the way we want them to, we should invade their country.
Bschott007
2012-01-24 01:35:40 PM
1derful
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I shot my dog, man!
"Yo Cheese! Where you been at man?"
"25 Large on Dog!"
R.A.Danny
2012-01-24 01:36:09 PM
monoski
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MaudlinMutantMollusk: I've heard that in some places they actually eat dogs
/you'd probably get in trouble for that here, too
Yep Link (new window into yummy dog meat)
I love dogs, but if a society finds them to be tasty, I really can't condemn them as long at the butchering is done humanely. I choose not to partake though.
Dog fighting is not humane. Big difference.
Farking Canuck
2012-01-24 01:36:21 PM
Ummm ... where did the ebil librul media celebrate this event?
Seemed to me that the story reported on it ... not glorified it. Did you expect the reporter to jump in to try and stop it?
BravadoGT
2012-01-24 01:37:30 PM
Moral relativity FTW! How dare we judge these savage, bloodthirsty, anti-Semitic and misogynistic cultures to our own...
nmx
2012-01-24 01:38:43 PM
Not quite, subby.
The author never said it was a "noble" tradition. But it is, by definition, a tradition. That's not placing a value judgment on it - it's just a fact.
Also, when Michael Vick does it, it IS criminal behavior. In Afghanistan, it is not. Again, this is a simple fact.
bikerific
2012-01-24 01:39:05 PM
Ctrl+F "noble" gets no hits. Acknowledging something is a tradition is not condoning it.
The article is actually fairly value neutral. Sticks to the facts, doesn't try to shade it, let's the reader decide if it is good or bad.
passthedutchie
2012-01-24 01:41:34 PM
YAY let's admire a crappy culture!
Does that make you feel good? To put a spin on ass-backward cultural practices?
Apples01
2012-01-24 01:42:25 PM
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Mentalpatient87
2012-01-24 01:43:06 PM
Is it odd that my opinion of bloodsport depends on my mood for the day?
machoprogrammer
2012-01-24 01:45:02 PM
Egoy3k
:
I_C_Weener: If a Mormon has 3 wives, its illegal. If a Saudi prince has 3 wives....they still aren't allowed to drive a car.
This one bothers me, setting aside the abuse that is common in some bigamist families if I as an adult found two other adults who wanted to be my spouse what business is it of anyone but us?
The problem is that typically it is a man with multiple wives. Very rarely, if ever, is it a woman with multiple husbands. This leads to men with many wives, while other men are stuck with none. This leads to young men being outcast, as it is less competition for the men with many wives. Angry, sexually frustrated young men is not something a society wants.
See the FLDS
nickerj1
2012-01-24 01:46:13 PM
Egoy3k
:
I_C_Weener: If a Mormon has 3 wives, its illegal. If a Saudi prince has 3 wives....they still aren't allowed to drive a car.
This one bothers me, setting aside the abuse that is common in some bigamist families if I as an adult found two other adults who wanted to be my spouse what business is it of anyone but us?
If you found 3 women, would there be any legal benefits you'd be losing out on if: you legally married one, and the other two legally married each other, and you all lived happily together.
walkerhound
2012-01-24 01:46:28 PM
Headso
:
didn't he smash out their teeth with a hammer and electrocute one to death or something?
peterthx
:
Is this sarcasm?
Or did you miss it where the multi-millionaire drowned and strangled losing dogs.
HailRobonia
:
Of course you don't want your dog to get hurt. You want the other dog to get hurt.
Exactly. He didn't want to hurt them, and if they won he wouldn't have had to. I don't want to beat my wife, but dammit she keeps making the mac-n-cheese wrong so I'm forced to.
bikerific
:
The article is actually fairly value neutral. Sticks to the facts, doesn't try to shade it, let's the reader decide if it is good or bad.
LOL you funny. You must have missed the first sentence.
dragonchild
2012-01-24 01:47:34 PM
bikerific
:
Acknowledging something is a tradition is not condoning it.
Unless you're talking about Weasel Stomping Day. Tradition makes that okay!
rwfan
2012-01-24 01:47:37 PM
gunther_bumpass
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I'm gonna go ahead and rank this alongside such esteemed traditions as "celebratory gunfire" and "marrying a twelve-year-old".
don't forget screwing little boys.
nickerj1
2012-01-24 01:48:01 PM
nickerj1
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Egoy3k: I_C_Weener: If a Mormon has 3 wives, its illegal. If a Saudi prince has 3 wives....they still aren't allowed to drive a car.
This one bothers me, setting aside the abuse that is common in some bigamist families if I as an adult found two other adults who wanted to be my spouse what business is it of anyone but us?
If you found 3 women, would there be any legal benefits you'd be losing out on if: you legally married one, and the other two legally married each other, and you all lived happily together.
I guess what I'm getting at is... is there any actual advantage to having all 3 women being legally recognized as wives? And if so, could the advantages be obtained by splitting up in multiple 2-person marriages?
Headso
2012-01-24 01:48:09 PM
passthedutchie
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YAY let's admire a crappy culture!
Does that make you feel good? To put a spin on ass-backward cultural practices?
let's not, conservatives are retarded no matter what country they are in.
Fano
2012-01-24 01:48:57 PM
nmx
:
Not quite, subby.
The author never said it was a "noble" tradition. But it is, by definition, a tradition. That's not placing a value judgment on it - it's just a fact.
Also, when Michael Vick does it, it IS criminal behavior. In Afghanistan, it is not. Again, this is a simple fact.
van1ty
2012-01-24 01:50:09 PM
I don't have a problem with this.
Seriously.
tricycleracer
2012-01-24 01:51:03 PM
Cockfighting is still okay, right?
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