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2012-01-24 09:08:17 AM
Things which strike me as good: Pitt, Bejo and Dean Pelton getting nominations.

Bad: No nominations at all for Shame.
 
2012-01-24 09:20:48 AM
The Undefeated?!? Really?

The academy's trolling is, I think. Did anyone even see that thing?
 
2012-01-24 09:37:03 AM
Hollywood nominating a conservative documentary? That Nolte guy over at Breitbart's going to have an aneurysm.
 
2012-01-24 09:45:59 AM
I'm very impressed that Max Von Sydow is still alive. The man has looked like he was in his 80s since the 80s. Same thing with John Hurt.
 
2012-01-24 09:50:10 AM
Wow, that is more nominations than I expected Extremely Loud and Incredibly Close to get.

In other news, "Man or Muppet" has to win Best Original Song, right?
 
2012-01-24 09:58:18 AM
"The Undefeated" didn't get nominated, "Undefeated" did. It's a documentary about an inner city high school football team.
 
2012-01-24 10:02:57 AM

RussianPooper: "The Undefeated" didn't get nominated, "Undefeated" did. It's a documentary about an inner city high school football team.


That make alot more sense.
 
2012-01-24 10:16:56 AM
No nominations for Human Centipede 2: Full Sequence?
 
2012-01-24 10:22:38 AM

RussianPooper: "The Undefeated" didn't get nominated, "Undefeated" did. It's a documentary about an inner city high school football team.


Ahh... Thanks for that. Farkin' articles? How do they work?
 
2012-01-24 10:30:58 AM

sweetmelissa31: No nominations for Human Centipede 2: Full Sequence?


It's under Medical Documentary.
 
2012-01-24 10:40:22 AM
Complete list of the nominations for the 84th Academy Awards nominations.

They were nominated for nominations?
 
2012-01-24 10:42:35 AM
Complete nomination list of the nominations for the nominations of the 84th Academy Awards nominations

FTFY subby

/nom nom nom nom
 
2012-01-24 10:43:18 AM

Vodka Zombie: The Undefeated?!? Really?

The academy's trolling is, I think. Did anyone even see that thing?


I'd give credit, but I forget which farker said it: Calling that movie "The Undefeated" is like calling Grizzley Man "The Uneaten".
 
2012-01-24 10:43:37 AM

Honest Bender: Complete list of the nominations for the 84th Academy Awards nominations.

They were nominated for nominations?


Accidentally the whole thing, baby.
 
2012-01-24 10:43:50 AM
I see this Michael Fassbender name all of the time, and I don't know one movie he has been in. Difficulty: I have a toddler and rarely go to the movies.
 
2012-01-24 10:44:19 AM

RussianPooper: "The Undefeated" didn't get nominated, "Undefeated" did. It's a documentary about an inner city high school football team.


So it's not "Undefeatable", a movie about two men grunting to each (new window) other about their frustrations?
 
2012-01-24 10:44:28 AM

WhoIsWillo: Wow, that is more nominations than I expected Extremely Loud and Incredibly Close to get.

In other news, "Man or Muppet" has to win Best Original Song, right?


Bret has got it going on.
 
2012-01-24 10:44:40 AM

obeymatt: I see this Michael Fassbender name all of the time, and I don't know one movie he has been in. Difficulty: I have a toddler and rarely go to the movies.


So why are you posting about it?
 
2012-01-24 10:45:13 AM

obeymatt: I see this Michael Fassbender name all of the time, and I don't know one movie he has been in. Difficulty: I have a toddler and rarely go to the movies.


He was in that movie you didn't see
 
2012-01-24 10:45:20 AM
Too bad it isn't the Palin doc - I had a zinger about how when she loses, they'd have to change the name to "Easily Defeated".
 
2012-01-24 10:45:24 AM
Palin aside, the nominations confirm what I've been thinking all year- that this was an incredibly crappy year for movies.
 
2012-01-24 10:45:46 AM
Subby: I don't get it, neither Palin or Julianne Moore or Tina Fey are on the list.. :(
 
2012-01-24 10:45:50 AM

Vodka Zombie: The Undefeated?!? Really?

The academy's trolling is, I think. Did anyone even see that thing?


"Extremely Loud and Incredibly Close" for best picture is the academy trolling. I believe it's already made some "worst of 2012" lists.
 
2012-01-24 10:46:16 AM
I'm still basking in Idris Elba's victory at the Golden Globes.

I legitimately have no idea who most of these nominees are, and not in an "I'm hip" kind of way. I just thought it was a bad year for movies when Jonah Hill gets a nomination.
 
2012-01-24 10:46:33 AM

Mavent: Palin aside, the nominations confirm what I've been thinking all year- that this was an incredibly crappy year for movies.


Clearly the fault of rampant internet piracy.
 
2012-01-24 10:46:37 AM
Really? Sarah Palin? I never thought that these award shows had any merit. This just adds to that belief. Seriously, swag and awards for actors and musicians but no widely televised awards for teachers, scientists, doctors, humanitarians, etc? Our society sucks.
 
2012-01-24 10:47:15 AM

Diogenes: Hollywood nominating a conservative documentary? That Nolte guy over at Breitbart's going to have an aneurysm.


He'll be ok, he'll get to write a scathing rant about liberal conspiracy when she doesn't win.
 
2012-01-24 10:48:06 AM

Mavent: Palin aside, the nominations confirm what I've been thinking all year- that this was an incredibly crappy year for movies.


Yeah, not a very good year.

Best Picture Ranking Best to Worst - All these were very good movies

1) "The Artist" Thomas Langmann, Producer
2) "Moneyball" Michael De Luca, Rachael Horovitz and Brad Pitt, Producers
3) "Hugo" Graham King and Martin Scorsese, Producers
4) "Midnight in Paris" Letty Aronson and Stephen Tenenbaum, Producers
5) "The Descendants" Jim Burke, Alexander Payne and Jim Taylor, Producers
6) "The Help" Brunson Green, Chris Columbus and Michael Barnathan, Producers

Didn't See

"Extremely Loud & Incredibly Close" Scott Rudin, Producer
"The Tree of Life" Nominees to be determined
"War Horse" Steven Spielberg and Kathleen Kennedy, Producers
 
2012-01-24 10:48:14 AM
On another note, the guy who plays Dean Pelton on Community got nominated for the Descendants screenplay.
 
2012-01-24 10:48:16 AM
obeymatt: I see this Michael Fassbender name all of the time, and I don't know one movie he has been in. Difficulty: I have a toddler and rarely go to the movies.

I'm not sure either. I think he's the great great great...grandfather to this guy.

pool.theinfosphere.org
 
2012-01-24 10:50:20 AM

PsyLord: Really? Sarah Palin? I never thought that these award shows had any merit. This just adds to that belief. Seriously, swag and awards for actors and musicians but no widely televised awards for teachers, scientists, doctors, humanitarians, etc? Our society sucks.


No, I think subby is trolling. There was a football movie called Undefeated, which is also the name of Palins book. Maybe that's what subby is talking about...
 
2012-01-24 10:50:25 AM
"The Academy" are bunch of assholes. They can go fark themselves long and hard.

I've boycotted them since Bill Murray wasn't even nominated for Best Supporting Actor in "Rushmore".
 
2012-01-24 10:51:13 AM
Jonah Hill should not be nominated for anything.
 
2012-01-24 10:52:11 AM
Jonah Hill should be punched in the stomach for "Allen Gregory".
 
2012-01-24 10:52:14 AM

WhoIsWillo: Wow, that is more nominations than I expected Extremely Loud and Incredibly Close to get.

In other news, "Man or Muppet" has to win Best Original Song, right?



The only way that song wouldn't win is if "Life's A Happy Song" from The Muppets were nominated as well. Since it's not, then yes "Man or Muppet" better win. And why the hell are there only two songs nominated? I mean, other than the one I mentioned, there's got to be a couple more out there that at least deserved consideration.

Oh, and the original score from Attack The Block got robbed. Link (new window)
 
2012-01-24 10:52:23 AM
The Hollywood limo liberals will never get over Sarah Palin.

/seriously, never
 
2012-01-24 10:52:44 AM

BalugaJoe: Jonah Hill should not be nominated for anything.


Yeah I was surprised by that, he was perfectly competent but the role didn't require a great deal in the way of acting.
 
2012-01-24 10:54:09 AM
Had to look for Sarah's nomination

Foreign Language Film

• "Dis iz Americer, Eh?" Sarah Palin
 
2012-01-24 10:54:23 AM

RussianPooper: "The Undefeated" didn't get nominated, "Undefeated" did. It's a documentary about an inner city high school football team.


Yeah, I had to go look that up. You know, since ctrl-f didn't turn up anything to do with Sarah farkin Palin.
 
2012-01-24 10:54:32 AM

Harry Freakstorm: obeymatt: I see this Michael Fassbender name all of the time, and I don't know one movie he has been in. Difficulty: I have a toddler and rarely go to the movies.

I'm not sure either. I think he's the great great great...grandfather to this guy.

[pool.theinfosphere.org image 225x169]


That's great! What's the little guy's name?
 
2012-01-24 10:54:36 AM

BalugaJoe: Jonah Hill should not be nominated for anything.


I was just thinking about that-- he didn't really do anything in Moneyball. There was literally no range to his character. Not saying it was his fault, just that it seemed to be written that way.

"Just sit there and be fat."
 
2012-01-24 10:54:58 AM
Palin has man jowls now. She looks like.............she doesn't look good. She's going to lose her gig on FOX News Channel because Ailes hired her for her looks.
 
2012-01-24 10:55:08 AM

obeymatt: I see this Michael Fassbender name all of the time, and I don't know one movie he has been in. Difficulty: I have a toddler and rarely go to the movies.


He was young, badass Magneto in X-Men: First Class.
 
2012-01-24 10:55:53 AM

Wise_Guy: BalugaJoe: Jonah Hill should not be nominated for anything.

I was just thinking about that-- he didn't really do anything in Moneyball. There was literally no range to his character. Not saying it was his fault, just that it seemed to be written that way.

"Just sit there and be fat."


Well he also had to look kinda brainy ... so "Just sit there and be fat and look brainy"
 
2012-01-24 10:56:49 AM
No nominations for drive? Academy fails!
 
2012-01-24 10:56:54 AM
The Academy Awards? Isn't that something that real old people watch?
Seriously, some of you watch it? Do you also have a subscription to The National Enquirer?
 
2012-01-24 10:57:03 AM

Tatterdemalian: The Hollywood limo liberals will never get over Sarah Palin.

/seriously, never


We don't take kindly to shallow attempts to foist a tremendous fraud on the American people.
 
2012-01-24 10:57:09 AM

Vodka Zombie: The Undefeated?!? Really?

The academy's trolling is, I think. Did anyone even see that thing?


John Wayne and Rock Hudson were great in that.
 
2012-01-24 10:57:48 AM

Rip Dashrock: The Academy Awards? Isn't that something that real old people watch?
Seriously, some of you watch it? Do you also have a subscription to The National Enquirer?


I'm gay, and even *I* don't watch them.

/please don't take my homo card
 
2012-01-24 10:57:53 AM
I'm glad Gary Oldman got a nomination for Tinker Tailor Soldier Spy. He was absolutely amazing in that role.
 
2012-01-24 10:58:02 AM

Honest Bender: They were nominated for nominations?


Oh yes, it's the first step in a multi-part process, all very scientific and stuff...
 
2012-01-24 10:58:26 AM
Almost all arty-smell-your-own-farty films except for animation and moneyball?

*clicks link*

Yep.

/after both The Bourne Ultimatum and The Dark Knight got snubbed, realized that the academy does not believe entertaining the audience is a necessary or even worthy goal to make a movie deserving of praise
 
2012-01-24 10:58:53 AM

rynthetyn: I'm glad Gary Oldman got a nomination for Tinker Tailor Soldier Spy. He was absolutely amazing in that role.


rynthetyn: I'm glad Gary Oldman got a nomination for Tinker Tailor Soldier Spy. He was absolutely amazing in that role.


Everyone was amazing in that movie. An acting clinic.
 
2012-01-24 10:59:01 AM

MindStalker: PsyLord: Really? Sarah Palin? I never thought that these award shows had any merit. This just adds to that belief. Seriously, swag and awards for actors and musicians but no widely televised awards for teachers, scientists, doctors, humanitarians, etc? Our society sucks.

No, I think subby is trolling. There was a football movie called Undefeated, which is also the name of Palins book. Maybe that's what subby is talking about...


Yes. This from another article:

4. "Undefeated"? Really? The Documentary Feature nominees made me do a double-take. Surely that Sarah Palin documentary, which had a zero Tomatometer score last time I looked, didn't get a nomination. A closer look shows that this "Undefeated" is this story of an Ohio high school football team.
 
2012-01-24 10:59:05 AM

TravisBickle62: Wise_Guy: BalugaJoe: Jonah Hill should not be nominated for anything.

I was just thinking about that-- he didn't really do anything in Moneyball. There was literally no range to his character. Not saying it was his fault, just that it seemed to be written that way.

"Just sit there and be fat."

Well he also had to look kinda brainy ... so "Just sit there and be fat and look brainy"


And now he will be referred to as "Academy Award Nominee Jonah Hill"...nice things, can't have 'em.
 
2012-01-24 11:00:18 AM

MindStalker: PsyLord: Really? Sarah Palin? I never thought that these award shows had any merit. This just adds to that belief. Seriously, swag and awards for actors and musicians but no widely televised awards for teachers, scientists, doctors, humanitarians, etc? Our society sucks.

No, I think subby is trolling. There was a football movie called Undefeated, which is also the name of Palins book. Maybe that's what subby is talking about...


Ah, gotcha. I clicked onto the link but got a weird flashing ad about my browser not being up to date (which is BS). So I just closed out of that tab. Hate that flash ad crap.

Anyway, I still think these entertainment award shows are indicative of what's wrong with our society. We just don't have the right priorities.
 
2012-01-24 11:00:21 AM

Tatterdemalian: The Hollywood limo liberals will never get over Sarah Palin.

/seriously, never


Maybe, but everyone else is pretty much over her.
 
2012-01-24 11:00:29 AM

DamnYankees: Mavent: Palin aside, the nominations confirm what I've been thinking all year- that this was an incredibly crappy year for movies.

Yeah, not a very good year.

Best Picture Ranking Best to Worst - All these were very good movies

1) "The Artist" Thomas Langmann, Producer
2) "Moneyball" Michael De Luca, Rachael Horovitz and Brad Pitt, Producers
3) "Hugo" Graham King and Martin Scorsese, Producers
4) "Midnight in Paris" Letty Aronson and Stephen Tenenbaum, Producers
5) "The Descendants" Jim Burke, Alexander Payne and Jim Taylor, Producers
6) "The Help" Brunson Green, Chris Columbus and Michael Barnathan, Producers

Didn't See

"Extremely Loud & Incredibly Close" Scott Rudin, Producer
"The Tree of Life" Nominees to be determined
"War Horse" Steven Spielberg and Kathleen Kennedy, Producers


I thought War Horse was sappy & manipulative. Unless you have tween-age girls, don't bother seeing it.

/Although my theatre was packed with senior citizens for some reason
//I enjoyed the hell out of The Artist. I'm rooting for that one
///The book for The Help was far better than the movie, although I REALLY liked all the actors.
 
2012-01-24 11:00:34 AM

DamnYankees: "Extremely Loud & Incredibly Close" Scott Rudin, Producer


You know, even today, I'm tired of the 'Let's rehash 9/11 and milk it for a few more bucks.' theme, but I saw a trailer for this movie that looked awesome. It's not any of the ones on TV now, but I watched it during football about a month ago, and it actually made me want to see it. The trailers out now don't do it any kind of justice at all.
 
2012-01-24 11:02:29 AM

rynthetyn: I'm glad Gary Oldman got a nomination for Tinker Tailor Soldier Spy. He was absolutely amazing in that role.


Agreed- he did a fantastic job. I wonder if they will film the follow-up stories?
 
2012-01-24 11:02:39 AM
Re: the Documentary category, you snubbed Steve James (The Interrupters) and Werner Herzog again for this, Academy?

By the way, Sarah Palin's not nominated. Wrong Undefeated. It's this: "A documentary that follows the Manassas Tigers football team, a severely underfunded and underprivileged football -- who were even hired out as a practice team for more successful schools -- as they reverse their fortunes thanks to coach Bill Courtney."

A few more things:
- Drive and Girl with a Dragon Tattoo should have been nominated for original score
- Kirsten Dunst was robbed with no nomination for Melancholia
- Gary Oldman will be best actor
- I suspect Glenn Close will be best actress
- Monsieur Lazhar was nominated for Foreign Language (yay!) and will probably lose chiefly because A Separation has much more buzz in the United States
- I'm pleased Tree of Life got so many nominations
- It just hit me that there are no real blockbusters in most of these categories. Many Americans won't have seen these movies.
 
2012-01-24 11:02:52 AM

Diogenes: Hollywood nominating a conservative documentary? That Nolte guy over at Breitbart's going to have an aneurysm.


Meh, this guy (new window) won a Tony and, just a few weeks ago, a Golden Globe. He endorsed Bachmann, and no one cared because he's a good actor.

/The only conservatives you ever hear biatching about Hollywood not hiring conservatives are conservatives with no talent
 
2012-01-24 11:03:06 AM
Snape was robbed!
 
2012-01-24 11:03:26 AM
WARNING:
I was redirected to another page that tried to automatically download an "update" to IE that was not from Microsoft. Code on the web page did it, not something on my computer (I checked).
 
2012-01-24 11:03:32 AM
files.sharenator.com
 
2012-01-24 11:04:10 AM

bobbette: Re: the Documentary category, you snubbed Steve James (The Interrupters) and Werner Herzog again for this, Academy?


I have to admit - I thought Cave of Forgotten Dreams was really boring.
 
2012-01-24 11:05:05 AM

DamnYankees: rynthetyn: I'm glad Gary Oldman got a nomination for Tinker Tailor Soldier Spy. He was absolutely amazing in that role.

Everyone was amazing in that movie. An acting clinic.


Good point. They should have just nominated the entire cast and been done with it. Among other things, it was also the best acting performance I've ever seen by Mark Strong.
 
2012-01-24 11:05:33 AM

DamnYankees: obeymatt: I see this Michael Fassbender name all of the time, and I don't know one movie he has been in. Difficulty: I have a toddler and rarely go to the movies.

So why are you posting about it?


Why not? I didn't feel like IMDBing him.
 
2012-01-24 11:06:35 AM

Wise_Guy: BalugaJoe: Jonah Hill should not be nominated for anything.

I was just thinking about that-- he didn't really do anything in Moneyball. There was literally no range to his character. Not saying it was his fault, just that it seemed to be written that way.

"Just sit there and be fat."


I'm really glad they didn't have his character really do anything in that movie other than his job. I thought the whole dynamic between him and Beane was nicely understated, including the comedy and the non-comedy bits. I was afraid they were going to make him into a wacky fat-guy stereotype to give the movie a more broad comic appeal, but they didn't. He wasn't a scene-stealing buffoon, and they didn't rely on any cheap fat jokes. In fact, him being fat had really nothing to do with anything in the movie.
 
2012-01-24 11:06:36 AM

rynthetyn: DamnYankees: rynthetyn: I'm glad Gary Oldman got a nomination for Tinker Tailor Soldier Spy. He was absolutely amazing in that role.

Everyone was amazing in that movie. An acting clinic.

Good point. They should have just nominated the entire cast and been done with it. Among other things, it was also the best acting performance I've ever seen by Mark Strong.


Hm. That's saying a lot. He's a fantastic actor.
 
2012-01-24 11:06:37 AM
Joseph Gordon Levitt not nominated?

Grrr.
 
2012-01-24 11:06:47 AM
Hugo?:

images.wikia.com


directed by Scorsese.
 
2012-01-24 11:07:04 AM
I saw Moneyball a few days ago. It was a solid movie, but I didn't think it deserves a Best Pic nom.
 
2012-01-24 11:07:27 AM
OK, now when I go back, it doesn't happen, so it must have been code in one of the rotating ads.

Anyway -- Harry Potter gets fooked again. Good.
 
2012-01-24 11:07:33 AM
An undercurrent of drama in the "Best Foreign Film" category: both Israel and Iran have made the shortlist ;-) Haven't seen the Iranian entry yet (it just started showing in theaters here - you can BET they aren't screening Footnote), but ours is quite esoteric. It takes guts to make a feature-length film about academic rivalry, in a university's Talmud department, no less. The performances and script were excellent, but frankly I'll be surprised if it wins. Not political enough.
 
2012-01-24 11:08:08 AM

rynthetyn: I'm glad Gary Oldman got a nomination for Tinker Tailor Soldier Spy. He was absolutely amazing in that role.


So that's pretty cool? It looks good, but you never know nowdays. Gary Oldman absolutely rocks. Everything he does has a completely different vibe than the role before, like Johnny Depp, but take away the lovable eccentric and add a heaping helping of crazy! IMHO, Oldman's as under-appreciated as John Turturro, people can name a bunch of his roles, and sometimes recognize roles that they didn't even know were done by him, but they can't always name him, yet he's a genius.
 
2012-01-24 11:08:14 AM

Jake Havechek: Jonah Hill should be punched in the stomach for "Allen Gregory".


THIS X 50K
 
2012-01-24 11:08:24 AM

Mr_Fabulous: I saw Moneyball a few days ago. It was a solid movie, but I didn't think it deserves a Best Pic nom.


I saw it a couple days ago on a plane, the second time watching it, and I disagree. It was a fantastically made movie, I really appreciated it even more the second time around.
 
2012-01-24 11:08:45 AM
Wow, except for Tinker, Tailor, soldier, Spy I don't think I saw any of these movies.
 
2012-01-24 11:09:17 AM
Want Mara to win, but her competition won't let her.

/We get it. Meryl Streep is a good actress. She's already been rewarded and recognized as such.
 
2012-01-24 11:09:27 AM

Lady Beryl Ersatz-Wendigo: rynthetyn: I'm glad Gary Oldman got a nomination for Tinker Tailor Soldier Spy. He was absolutely amazing in that role.

Agreed- he did a fantastic job. I wonder if they will film the follow-up stories?


I think that team could. The adaptation was even better than Gary Oldman's performance. The last time someone tried to adapt Tinker Tailor, it took hours and hours as a miniseries. They shortened it down to two hours and it felt like it missed nothing - it just had more urgency and dramatic impact (particularly the storyline with Ann.)

A little odd that Tomas Alfredson didn't get nominated for Best Director, but it's a tough year and Hollywood pretty much couldn't do an unconventional thing and not nominate one of Scorcese, Allen, Malick or Alexander Payne.
 
2012-01-24 11:10:19 AM

beta_plus: /after both The Bourne Ultimatum and The Dark Knight got snubbed, realized that the academy does not believe entertaining the audience is a necessary or even worthy goal to make a movie deserving of praise


Really, 'The Bourne Ultimatum'? Sure, the first one was cool, but after that, you're just rehashing the same crap over and over. I saw nothing original in the sequel. Dark Knight, on the other hand WAS good, even with the 'Let's all moon over poor Heath' stuff barraging us 24/7. It WAS an inspired role, and made the movie.
 
2012-01-24 11:10:36 AM

Matticus: Want Mara to win, but her competition won't let her.

/We get it. Meryl Streep is a good actress. She's already been rewarded and recognized as such.


Of those nominated actresses, I guess I'm rooting for Viola Davis. But I wasn't bowled over by any of them.
 
RTX
2012-01-24 11:10:50 AM
How did no one from Tinker, Tailor get nominated for Best Supporting Actor? Maybe because there were so many choices, they split the Academy's votes?
 
2012-01-24 11:12:01 AM
Watched Tree of Life yesterday and was a bit underwhelmed. It was beautifully filmed, but all the characters were so underwritten that it was really hard to care about their cliched life stories.

Whispered prayer
Jessica Chastain is pretty
Sean Penn has a sad
The universe is created
Brad Pitt is an asshole
Kids in the 50s really needed Xboxes so they won't stick knives in light sockets
Jessica Chastain washes her feet
Whispered prayer
Kid randomly sucks at swimming and drowns
Brad Pitt ruins dinner
Scary clowns!
Jessica Chastain is still pretty
Everyone is dead and the afterlife is like a dull burning man
Hugs!
The end.

Again, gorgeous cinematography, but it was just too bland and generic to really grab me, at least not the way Moneyball did (and I don't even like baseball).
 
2012-01-24 11:12:09 AM

Mikey1969: rynthetyn: I'm glad Gary Oldman got a nomination for Tinker Tailor Soldier Spy. He was absolutely amazing in that role.

So that's pretty cool? It looks good, but you never know nowdays. Gary Oldman absolutely rocks. Everything he does has a completely different vibe than the role before, like Johnny Depp, but take away the lovable eccentric and add a heaping helping of crazy! IMHO, Oldman's as under-appreciated as John Turturro, people can name a bunch of his roles, and sometimes recognize roles that they didn't even know were done by him, but they can't always name him, yet he's a genius.


In talking my sister into going to see Tinker Tailor, I started listing off all of the Gary Oldman roles that I knew she'd seen and she didn't realize it was him in any of them.
 
2012-01-24 11:12:10 AM

Diogenes: Tatterdemalian: The Hollywood limo liberals will never get over Sarah Palin.

/seriously, never

We don't take kindly to shallow attempts to foist a tremendous fraud on the American people.


Can't handle the competition?

/of course not, that's the real reason socialists hate capitalism
 
2012-01-24 11:12:34 AM

Cybernetic: No, I think subby is trolling. There was a football movie called Undefeated, which is also the name of Palins book. Maybe that's what subby is talking about...


You do realize that "confusion" and "trolling" are different concepts entirely, right? Sounds to me like he got the titles confused. If he was trolling, it would just be designed to generate anger and hostility, and there wouldn't be something as silly as the two names being almost identical.
 
2012-01-24 11:12:53 AM
God, the Academy Awards are a f*cking joke.
 
2012-01-24 11:13:31 AM
Tree of Life was probably is the worst most pretentious movies I've ever seen.
 
2012-01-24 11:15:02 AM

Mad_Radhu: obeymatt: I see this Michael Fassbender name all of the time, and I don't know one movie he has been in. Difficulty: I have a toddler and rarely go to the movies.

He was young, badass Magneto in X-Men: First Class.


That's where he looks familiar from. Thanks.
 
2012-01-24 11:16:08 AM
You know guys, I wonder why Lars von Trier was not nominated for my favourite movie of last year, Melancholia!

Ah yes... let's take stroll down memory lane...

"What can I say? I understand Hitler ... I sympathize with him a bit." - Lars von Trier, Cannes, 2011

Oh wait, you know what, I'm just going to post the rest of that quote.

"I don't mean I'm in favor of World War II and I'm not against Jews, not even Susanne Bier. In fact I'm very much in favor of them. All Jews. Well, Israel is a pain in the ass but... Now how can I get out of this sentence? Ok. I'm a Nazi." - Lars von Trier, Cannes, 2011

You thanked Hitler
 
2012-01-24 11:20:16 AM

RTX: How did no one from Tinker, Tailor get nominated for Best Supporting Actor? Maybe because there were so many choices, they split the Academy's votes?


Agreed, everyone in that movie was absolutely on note. I should see it again before it's out of theaters. I just loved it.
 
2012-01-24 11:22:09 AM

bobbette: RTX: How did no one from Tinker, Tailor get nominated for Best Supporting Actor? Maybe because there were so many choices, they split the Academy's votes?

Agreed, everyone in that movie was absolutely on note. I should see it again before it's out of theaters. I just loved it.


Also, the Academy needs a new category - Best Trailer. TTSS would win that award running away this year.
 
2012-01-24 11:23:31 AM
Flash Gordon isn't going to be happy with a certain supporting actor nomination!
 
2012-01-24 11:24:01 AM
What are these "movie" things everyone talks about?

Do they show them on Nick Jr., Nickelodeon, The Disney Channel or PBS?

/has a 4 year old
//hasn't seen regular TV since 2007
 
2012-01-24 11:24:02 AM

bobbette: You know guys, I wonder why Lars von Trier was not nominated for my favourite movie of last year, Melancholia!

Ah yes... let's take stroll down memory lane...

"What can I say? I understand Hitler ... I sympathize with him a bit." - Lars von Trier, Cannes, 2011

Oh wait, you know what, I'm just going to post the rest of that quote.

"I don't mean I'm in favor of World War II and I'm not against Jews, not even Susanne Bier. In fact I'm very much in favor of them. All Jews. Well, Israel is a pain in the ass but... Now how can I get out of this sentence? Ok. I'm a Nazi." - Lars von Trier, Cannes, 2011

You thanked Hitler


Many years ago, long before the Hitler slip, I decided I'd never see another Von Trier film. I was sick and tired of the whole Dogma 95 circus and particularly sick of the misogyny in his films - women who love are punished. I don't feel cinematically deprived at all.
 
2012-01-24 11:24:29 AM

obeymatt: Why not? I didn't feel like IMDBing him.


Yeah, that IS a lot of work, you have to open a new tab and everything. Much easier to sit around and wait for someone on here to answer you, although it will take 400x as long... :-)
 
2012-01-24 11:24:38 AM

DamnYankees: bobbette: RTX: How did no one from Tinker, Tailor get nominated for Best Supporting Actor? Maybe because there were so many choices, they split the Academy's votes?

Agreed, everyone in that movie was absolutely on note. I should see it again before it's out of theaters. I just loved it.

Also, the Academy needs a new category - Best Trailer. TTSS would win that award running away this year.


Actually, I think Girl with the Dragon Tattoo would win, but it would be close.

However, if we had done this the last few years, then Garden State would have won an Oscar. Do you really want to live in that world?
 
2012-01-24 11:25:14 AM

Nogale: Many years ago, long before the Hitler slip, I decided I'd never see another Von Trier film. I was sick and tired of the whole Dogma 95 circus and particularly sick of the misogyny in his films - women who love are punished. I don't feel cinematically deprived at all.


Completely agree. I loathe Von Trier, both for his views, his actions and his films.
 
2012-01-24 11:25:39 AM
Was Alan Rickman on the list?

I didn't see Alan Rickman on the list.
 
2012-01-24 11:25:47 AM

DamnYankees: bobbette: Re: the Documentary category, you snubbed Steve James (The Interrupters) and Werner Herzog again for this, Academy?

I have to admit - I thought Cave of Forgotten Dreams was really boring.


I liked it because it seemed to do a good job of capturing what it would be like to actually visit that cave, and see the paintings for yourself. If that's the sort of trip that you would find boring, then I can imagine you'd be bored by the film as well.

/only movie I've ever regretted not seeing in 3D
 
2012-01-24 11:26:17 AM
oh look, another celebrity circle jerk.
 
2012-01-24 11:27:08 AM

obeymatt: I see this Michael Fassbender name all of the time, and I don't know one movie he has been in. Difficulty: I have a toddler and rarely go to the movies.


Being as your time is limited due to the toddler, I'd recommend watching just the last 5 five minutes of Fassbender in Hunger. Even if you have to pay full price for just those last 5 minutes.
 
2012-01-24 11:27:10 AM

WhoIsWillo: However, if we had done this the last few years, then Garden State would have won an Oscar. Do you really want to live in that world?


Sure - that was a great trailer.
 
2012-01-24 11:27:41 AM
Meh. Okay, let's just do this instead of a big award show: We'll give a thirty minute speech about how your pretentious art house flick of choice is pretentious and not actually deserving of all the knob-slobbering it's getting, give Hugo everything it's up for, let Scorsese talk however long he damn well pleases, split the Best Actress between Mara and Elizabeth Olsen for Martha Marcy May Marlene, tell all the Best Actor nominees, "PSYCH," and toss that shiat out to Andy Serkis, let everyone from The Muppets know that their award isn't actually just for the song, but for being so Goddamned awesome, then call it a night.
 
2012-01-24 11:28:38 AM

anfrind: I liked it because it seemed to do a good job of capturing what it would be like to actually visit that cave, and see the paintings for yourself. If that's the sort of trip that you would find boring, then I can imagine you'd be bored by the film as well.


That doesn't make it a good movie though, especially 2 hours of it. It makes it a good travel documentary for about 20 minutes.

Hey, I love Herzog, I think he's brilliant. I just didn't like this particular outing.

OooShiny: obeymatt: I see this Michael Fassbender name all of the time, and I don't know one movie he has been in. Difficulty: I have a toddler and rarely go to the movies.

Being as your time is limited due to the toddler, I'd recommend watching just the last 5 five minutes of Fassbender in Hunger. Even if you have to pay full price for just those last 5 minutes.


Gotta see that whole movie. A brilliant film. I would recommend the 20 minute conversation between Fassbender and the priest (in one take) more than the final sequence.
 
2012-01-24 11:28:56 AM
Tatterdemalian: <stupidity deleted>

I think we found Newt Gingrich's Fark handle.
 
2012-01-24 11:31:13 AM

hillary: Anyway -- Harry Potter gets fooked again. Good.


I have two (now) teenagers, and as a result, I have sat through most of the Harry Potter movies, and I don't understand the hate. They have a good continuity between the characters, the movies are entertaining, and they deal well with the characters getting older and developing relationships. I haven't seen a single one of these that wasn't worth the money I paid for admission. They aren't the BEST movies ever made, but they're solid, and they aren't 'Twilight'...
 
2012-01-24 11:32:16 AM
Pretty much what I expected. Two biggest surprises was no Tintin getting snubbed (Academy probably thinks mo-cap doesn't count as animation, although they didn't have a problem with The Polar Express) and Extremely Loud & Incredibly Close nominated for Best Picture despite having only 48% Tomatoemeter rating.
 
2012-01-24 11:35:02 AM

DamnYankees: rynthetyn: I'm glad Gary Oldman got a nomination for Tinker Tailor Soldier Spy. He was absolutely amazing in that role.

rynthetyn: I'm glad Gary Oldman got a nomination for Tinker Tailor Soldier Spy. He was absolutely amazing in that role.

Everyone was amazing in that movie. An acting clinic.


This. Oldman was obviously brilliant, but so were Benedict Cumberbatch, Mark Strong (particularly), Colin Firth, John Hurt, Kathy Burke. The only one I didn't care for much was Dencik - he was still pretty good, but I really liked Bernard Hepton in that role, especially in "Smiley's People."
 
2012-01-24 11:37:57 AM

DamnYankees: anfrind: I liked it because it seemed to do a good job of capturing what it would be like to actually visit that cave, and see the paintings for yourself. If that's the sort of trip that you would find boring, then I can imagine you'd be bored by the film as well.

That doesn't make it a good movie though, especially 2 hours of it. It makes it a good travel documentary for about 20 minutes.

Hey, I love Herzog, I think he's brilliant. I just didn't like this particular outing.

OooShiny: obeymatt: I see this Michael Fassbender name all of the time, and I don't know one movie he has been in. Difficulty: I have a toddler and rarely go to the movies.

Being as your time is limited due to the toddler, I'd recommend watching just the last 5 five minutes of Fassbender in Hunger. Even if you have to pay full price for just those last 5 minutes.

Gotta see that whole movie. A brilliant film. I would recommend the 20 minute conversation between Fassbender and the priest (in one take) more than the final sequence.


The scene with his sister singing in the restaurant is some of his best acting in the film IMHO. Great movie.
 
2012-01-24 11:43:33 AM
FTFA:

"Man or Muppet" from "The Muppets" Music and Lyric by Bret McKenzie

Absolutely the best scene in the movie.
 
2012-01-24 11:48:24 AM

Mikey1969: rynthetyn: I'm glad Gary Oldman got a nomination for Tinker Tailor Soldier Spy. He was absolutely amazing in that role.

So that's pretty cool? It looks good, but you never know nowdays. Gary Oldman absolutely rocks. Everything he does has a completely different vibe than the role before, like Johnny Depp, but take away the lovable eccentric and add a heaping helping of crazy! IMHO, Oldman's as under-appreciated as John Turturro, people can name a bunch of his roles, and sometimes recognize roles that they didn't even know were done by him, but they can't always name him, yet he's a genius.


Absolutely -- this nomination is loooong overdue.
 
2012-01-24 11:51:18 AM
Sarah Palin got a nomination

I don't think that's right. Maybe I'm splkitting hairs, but I don't see her name listed. I think those guys were the producers. She got a 'writer' credit on that movie because it was based on 'her' book. Even if it were to win (which won't happen)_, I don't think Palin will have the trophy.

Besides, "Paradise Lost 3: Purgatory" was really good. I didn't see the other nominees, but The Undefeated should lose (be defeated by, lol!) to that one at least.
 
2012-01-24 11:52:28 AM

Mikey1969: obeymatt: Why not? I didn't feel like IMDBing him.

Yeah, that IS a lot of work, you have to open a new tab and everything. Much easier to sit around and wait for someone on here to answer you, although it will take 400x as long... :-)


But you can't get witty banter like this on IMDB.
 
2012-01-24 11:52:59 AM

obeymatt: Mikey1969: obeymatt: Why not? I didn't feel like IMDBing him.

Yeah, that IS a lot of work, you have to open a new tab and everything. Much easier to sit around and wait for someone on here to answer you, although it will take 400x as long... :-)

But you can't get witty banter like this on IMDB.


Clearly you haven't visited the IMDB message boards.
 
2012-01-24 11:54:55 AM
I can't believe Andy Serkus was not nominated for the lead role in Rise of Planet Of The Apes.

It is one of the best pictures I have ever seen, and one of the few cases where a sequel was better than the original.

\\\ No justice.
 
2012-01-24 11:55:19 AM
Pixar's run of Animated Feature Oscars is coming to an end. This will be the fifth time Pixar will not win the category, and the first time since 2006. The other four years that they lost:

-2001, the first year of the category, with Monsters, Inc. losing. (Shrek won)
-2002, when they had no eligible film. (Spirited Away won)
-2005, when they had no eligible film. (Wallace and Gromit: The Curse of the Were-Rabbit won)
-2006, with Cars losing. (Happy Feet won)

They're 6-3 when it comes to winning the category and 8-1 when it comes to getting nominated. If you eliminated the Cars movies, they're 6-1 when it comes to winning and 7-0 in getting nominated.
 
2012-01-24 11:55:58 AM
Young Adult was a great movie.
 
2012-01-24 11:57:09 AM

Mikey1969: beta_plus: /after both The Bourne Ultimatum and The Dark Knight got snubbed, realized that the academy does not believe entertaining the audience is a necessary or even worthy goal to make a movie deserving of praise

Really, 'The Bourne Ultimatum'? Sure, the first one was cool, but after that, you're just rehashing the same crap over and over. I saw nothing original in the sequel. Dark Knight, on the other hand WAS good, even with the 'Let's all moon over poor Heath' stuff barraging us 24/7. It WAS an inspired role, and made the movie.


The Bourne Supremacy and Ultimatum were the best and most original action films made since Die Hard. Ultimatum was a deliberate attempt to match the French Connection and it succeeded brilliantly. Sorry, but I disagree with your assessment.
 
2012-01-24 11:58:36 AM

meat0918: Was Alan Rickman on the list?

I didn't see Alan Rickman on the list.


He didn't make it and he should have, because the man needs an Oscar already.

Also wtf no Tintin for best animated movie?
 
2012-01-24 12:00:35 PM

RussianPooper: "The Undefeated" didn't get nominated, "Undefeated" did. It's a documentary about an inner city high school football team.


Ahh, I was thrown off by this page (new window). IMDB even listed a nomination for "Undefeated" on the "The Undefeated" page. I saw the names on that page and saw they were the same as in TFA and figured it was legit.
 
2012-01-24 12:02:19 PM

theknuckler_33: Sarah Palin got a nomination

I don't think that's right. Maybe I'm splkitting hairs, but I don't see her name listed. I think those guys were the producers. She got a 'writer' credit on that movie because it was based on 'her' book. Even if it were to win (which won't happen)_, I don't think Palin will have the trophy.

Besides, "Paradise Lost 3: Purgatory" was really good. I didn't see the other nominees, but The Undefeated should lose (be defeated by, lol!) to that one at least.


I wasn't sure whether to snark you for not reading the thread or for actually thinking that the academy would nominate Palin for anything. But since you showed a fair amount of disdain for her shenanigans I'll just give you a "Good Day, Sir".

/CSB I remember watching the original HBO Documentary about the West Memphis 3 as a kid and at the time I thought they were being railroaded for looking alternative and goth.
 
2012-01-24 12:04:48 PM

olddinosaur: I can't believe Andy Serkus was not nominated for the lead role in Rise of Planet Of The Apes.

It is one of the best pictures I have ever seen, and one of the few cases where a sequel was better than the original.

\\\ No justice.


Now, I didn't think the first Planet of the Apes was the train wreck a lot of people claim. I think they secretly enjoyed it and just started bashing it because it became trendy...

'Rise' though, was amazing. The movie absolutely rocked, one of the best things I saw all year, and Serkis should DEFINITELY have gotten a nomination. I feel that's a definite snub. Maybe it's because he fits into a whole new category? He's more than 'just' an actor in that role when he carries the amount of emotion into something that then gets a computer overlay and translates his emotion into the CGI.

Of course, they create a special category, and the 'Let's CG EVERYTHING' vibe will start up again...
 
2012-01-24 12:05:08 PM

Cranialsodomy: Vodka Zombie: The Undefeated?!? Really?

The academy's trolling is, I think. Did anyone even see that thing?

"Extremely Loud and Incredibly Close" for best picture is the academy trolling kissing Tom Hanks' ass. I believe it's already made some "worst of 2012" lists.


Tom Hanks could star in a feature length Jello commercial and it would get nominated for best picture. Because he's Tom farkin Hanks.

Personally, I cannot stand him because nearly everything he's in is guaranteed to put me to sleep better than intravenous valium.

He should get a lifetime achievement award for being one of the most boring actors of our time.
 
2012-01-24 12:08:19 PM
When was the last time a film that reviewed so poorly as "Extremely Loud & Incredibly Close" was nominated for Best Picture?
 
2012-01-24 12:10:14 PM
I'm really surprised that more songs from "The Muppets" weren't nominated; I didn't think Bret wrote them all, but maybe I'm wrong.

Did anyone SEE "Rio" to know if that song was worth consideration?
 
2012-01-24 12:10:26 PM

RhineStoneTaco: When was the last time a film that reviewed so poorly as "Extremely Loud & Incredibly Close" was nominated for Best Picture?


Link (new window)

At the very least its the worst in the last 10 years. Next worst was The Reader at 62%.
 
2012-01-24 12:10:37 PM
Oh Subby, WHERE THE FARK IS SARAH PALIN NAMED IN THE ARTICLE ?

/ ctrl+F shows NOTHING.
 
2012-01-24 12:10:45 PM
@DamnYankees, clearly.
 
2012-01-24 12:12:00 PM

obeymatt: Mikey1969: obeymatt: Why not? I didn't feel like IMDBing him.

Yeah, that IS a lot of work, you have to open a new tab and everything. Much easier to sit around and wait for someone on here to answer you, although it will take 400x as long... :-)

But you can't get witty banter like this on IMDB.


LOL... OK, I'll give you that one. The IMDB message boards ARE pretty good, as DamnYankees posted, but you don't have as quick of turnaround there, could take days to get an answer to a post.
 
2012-01-24 12:12:50 PM

Mikey1969: obeymatt: Mikey1969: obeymatt: Why not? I didn't feel like IMDBing him.

Yeah, that IS a lot of work, you have to open a new tab and everything. Much easier to sit around and wait for someone on here to answer you, although it will take 400x as long... :-)

But you can't get witty banter like this on IMDB.

LOL... OK, I'll give you that one. The IMDB message boards ARE pretty good, as DamnYankees posted, but you don't have as quick of turnaround there, could take days to get an answer to a post.


I was being sarcastic. The IMDB boards are one level above Youtube commenters for derp.
 
2012-01-24 12:15:45 PM
You all have a lot more free time than I do, and for that I am jealous.
 
2012-01-24 12:17:32 PM

beta_plus: The Bourne Supremacy and Ultimatum were the best and most original action films made since Die Hard. Ultimatum was a deliberate attempt to match the French Connection and it succeeded brilliantly. Sorry, but I disagree with your assessment.


Fair enough. I found it to be a snooze-fest rerun, but like I said, I liked the first one a lot.
 
2012-01-24 12:21:05 PM

BalugaJoe: Jonah Hill should not be nominated for anything.


He was excellent in Moneyball, which was a terrific film.
 
2012-01-24 12:22:55 PM

DamnYankees: Link (new window)


I don't give a lot of credence to reviewers, nor to Rotten Tomatoes, which is funny, since Tomatoes is viewer driven, and I usually take viewer experience as my keystone... I just think Tomatoes is a bunch of biatchy folks who don't like anything, or they absolutely LOVE some of the most irritating tripe out there. From the trailer I saw, this looks like a petty good movie, but the majority of the trailers out there aren't all that good.
 
2012-01-24 12:24:56 PM

rynthetyn: I'm glad Gary Oldman got a nomination for Tinker Tailor Soldier Spy. He was absolutely amazing in that role.


I was impressed by everyone in that movie. Now I can't wait for the DVD to come out so I can give it a few more views. Although the French pop music at the very end was very wtf, I thought something had gone wrong in the theater and they were scrolling the ending credits music before the movie had ended.

/and now I need to go buy all of the books from the series because that was amazingly more interesting than I thought it was going to be
 
2012-01-24 12:25:05 PM

DamnYankees: Mikey1969: obeymatt: Mikey1969: obeymatt: Why not? I didn't feel like IMDBing him.

Yeah, that IS a lot of work, you have to open a new tab and everything. Much easier to sit around and wait for someone on here to answer you, although it will take 400x as long... :-)

But you can't get witty banter like this on IMDB.

LOL... OK, I'll give you that one. The IMDB message boards ARE pretty good, as DamnYankees posted, but you don't have as quick of turnaround there, could take days to get an answer to a post.

I was being sarcastic. The IMDB boards are one level above Youtube commenters for derp.


Oh God no, they're entertaining as hell... Doesn't mean that they are high-grade ore, but they're a lot of fun... Of course, maybe it's just the derp that I'm enjoying.
 
2012-01-24 12:31:14 PM

olddinosaur: I can't believe Andy Serkus was not nominated for the lead role in Rise of Planet Of The Apes.

It is one of the best pictures I have ever seen, and one of the few cases where a sequel was better than the original.

\\\ No justice.


Agreed, but he wasn't nominated for any of his work on Lord of the Rings, or TinTin. That man is amazing at his job, and everyone is amazing and not realizing just how good he is.
 
2012-01-24 12:32:19 PM
Sounds like subby has jelly hard on for Palin

/u jelly subby?
 
2012-01-24 12:35:11 PM
Ugh Tree of Life. If that wins, I will be sorely disappointed.
 
2012-01-24 12:37:26 PM
Drive got shafted.
 
2012-01-24 12:38:40 PM
RussianPooper
"The Undefeated" didn't get nominated, "Undefeated" did. It's a documentary about an inner city high school football team.

Why did this thread continue beyond this post?
 
2012-01-24 12:40:47 PM
I'm glad that Kristen Wiig got nominated.
There. I said it.
 
2012-01-24 12:52:31 PM
I know 'Drive' was kind of a marginal film and didn't exactly set the box office on fire, but damn if it wasn't one of my favorite films of the year.

I'm biased, but it could easily have gotten a nod for best soundtrack, cinematography, director (Refn) and Albert Brooks for supporting actor.

I now conclude my Oscar rant for 2012. Thank you.
 
2012-01-24 12:53:39 PM
best actor? Gary Oldman
best supporting actor? any one from the rest of the main cast of TTSS

end of, 2011 was a shiat year for film, TTSS stands head snd shoulders above everything else imo
 
2012-01-24 12:58:08 PM
"The Tree of Life" Nominees to be determined.
 
2012-01-24 01:03:27 PM
As someone who enjoys acting/writing/tech, there are a few things that always drove me nuts about these award shows:

1) The fact that the writing award gets completely over looked. Pretty sure there would be no movie without the script. I'm sick and tired of people praising actors and directors, when the bulk of praise belongs to the person who made the movie possible. Don't even get me started when someone quotes a movie and attributes it to the farking actor that said the line.

2) The fact that the farking producers accept the award for best movie. Because out of everyone that made the movie what it was, the farking producers deserve the award.

3) The fact that the technical awards aren't shown on TV. Because who cares if we don't have cameramen. That's not important to the movie business.

And lastly why are we giving awards to the people who essentially fake playing real people. How about we skip all the bs, and praise and give the people they are supposed to represent 20 million dollars to do there jobs. How many actors have played teachers, cops, soldiers, activists, and scientist and have been given incredible praise and millions of dollars. I think this country would be in a much better position if the above jobs, were given the same money and praise as the people faking them.
 
2012-01-24 01:10:55 PM
Fassbender should get all of the awards. One of these days I am going to send him a random thank you for being Magneto hooker.
 
2012-01-24 01:12:32 PM

Dalek Caan's doomed mistress: rynthetyn: I'm glad Gary Oldman got a nomination for Tinker Tailor Soldier Spy. He was absolutely amazing in that role.

I was impressed by everyone in that movie. Now I can't wait for the DVD to come out so I can give it a few more views. Although the French pop music at the very end was very wtf, I thought something had gone wrong in the theater and they were scrolling the ending credits music before the movie had ended.

/and now I need to go buy all of the books from the series because that was amazingly more interesting than I thought it was going to be


The movie, although ridiculously awesome and filled with great performances, is just a shade of the earth-shattering awesomeness of the books. "Tinker Tailor" is most-definitely a masterpiece. "The Honourable Schoolboy" does slog quite a bit in the middle, and could be considered an extended and polished remake of "The Spy who came in from the cold", but it's worth it just to setup the ball-tightening "Smiley's People".
In regards with the movie, Oldman easily beats Alec Guiness in the Smiley portrayal, my only wish would be that he had the runtime of the original mini-series.
 
2012-01-24 01:17:23 PM
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2012-01-24 01:20:35 PM
Holy crap, the only movie I have seen on the list is "Puss in Boots".
 
2012-01-24 01:23:31 PM
www.overthetopgear.com

3 INVISIBLE OSCAR-NOMINATING COMMITTEE MEMBERS
 
2012-01-24 01:24:19 PM

frisland: Snape was robbed!


This. Alan Rickman should have gotten a nomination.
 
2012-01-24 01:42:27 PM

RTX: How did no one from Tinker, Tailor get nominated for Best Supporting Actor? Maybe because there were so many choices, they split the Academy's votes?


Another argument for a best acting ensemble Oscar.
 
2012-01-24 01:43:20 PM
Pixar missed its chance, stupid year for Cars 2.

While the academy would never let it win, I gotta say with the right momentum Toy Story 3 would have been a strong contender this year. My guess would be the Clooney movie or Artist would still win, but at least people would be upset at Toy Story 3 coming close but not getting it.
 
2012-01-24 01:54:27 PM

Cybernetic: MindStalker: PsyLord: Really? Sarah Palin? I never thought that these award shows had any merit. This just adds to that belief. Seriously, swag and awards for actors and musicians but no widely televised awards for teachers, scientists, doctors, humanitarians, etc? Our society sucks.

No, I think subby is trolling. There was a football movie called Undefeated, which is also the name of Palins book. Maybe that's what subby is talking about...

Yes. This from another article:

4. "Undefeated"? Really? The Documentary Feature nominees made me do a double-take. Surely that Sarah Palin documentary, which had a zero Tomatometer score last time I looked, didn't get a nomination. A closer look shows that this "Undefeated" is this story of an Ohio high school football team.


And, yet still wrong. It is about a football team from inner city Memphis.
 
2012-01-24 01:56:47 PM

TheManofPA: Pixar missed its chance, stupid year for Cars 2.

While the academy would never let it win, I gotta say with the right momentum Toy Story 3 would have been a strong contender this year. My guess would be the Clooney movie or Artist would still win, but at least people would be upset at Toy Story 3 coming close but not getting it.


Toy Story 3 came out last year.
 
2012-01-24 01:59:24 PM

sideshwtodd: As someone who enjoys acting/writing/tech, there are a few things that always drove me nuts about these award shows:

1) The fact that the writing award gets completely over looked. Pretty sure there would be no movie without the script. I'm sick and tired of people praising actors and directors, when the bulk of praise belongs to the person who made the movie possible. Don't even get me started when someone quotes a movie and attributes it to the farking actor that said the line.

2) The fact that the farking producers accept the award for best movie. Because out of everyone that made the movie what it was, the farking producers deserve the award.

3) The fact that the technical awards aren't shown on TV. Because who cares if we don't have cameramen. That's not important to the movie business.

And lastly why are we giving awards to the people who essentially fake playing real people. How about we skip all the bs, and praise and give the people they are supposed to represent 20 million dollars to do there jobs. How many actors have played teachers, cops, soldiers, activists, and scientist and have been given incredible praise and millions of dollars. I think this country would be in a much better position if the above jobs, were given the same money and praise as the people faking them.


You were making some good points until that last paragraph. So by your logic, the only actors who should get awards are those that play superheroes, aliens, & vampires, since, technically, those aren't real people.
 
2012-01-24 02:05:29 PM

spidermilk: TheManofPA: Pixar missed its chance, stupid year for Cars 2.

While the academy would never let it win, I gotta say with the right momentum Toy Story 3 would have been a strong contender this year. My guess would be the Clooney movie or Artist would still win, but at least people would be upset at Toy Story 3 coming close but not getting it.

Toy Story 3 came out last year.


He's saying that they should've held Toy Story 3 until this (past) year.
 
2012-01-24 02:05:53 PM

dcigary: What are these "movie" things everyone talks about?

Do they show them on Nick Jr., Nickelodeon, The Disney Channel or PBS?

/has a 4 year old
//hasn't seen regular TV since 2007


*daddyjacking*
 
2012-01-24 02:17:30 PM
What a germane, drab, boring, predictable slate of movies.

The sad part? It was actually a great year for films. Poetry, Melancholia, Shame, A Seperation, etc.

Just goes to show these award shows are more about a self congratulatory industry wankfest than they are recognizing excellence. There's a reason why The Wire never won an Emmy.
 
2012-01-24 02:19:18 PM

DamnYankees: At the very least its the worst in the last 10 years. Next worst was The Reader at 62%.


Oscars aren't about the best films, and frequently pick absolutely horrible shiat over really good films. Anyone who uses them as a barometer is likely to be disappointed about half the time. The Oscars are far more about worthy films and bribery than great films, that's why some of them fade into obscurity while films that win nothing go on to become greats.

The worst film I've seen that won is Shakespeare in Love, a film whose only good moment was Gwyneth Paltrow's tits. Yet somehow, it beat both Elizabeth and Saving Private Ryan of the nominees, two films I've watched more than once. How can you sit through something as mindnumbingly tedious as Shakespeare in Love and then give it an award when the farking Truman Show, Out of Sight, There's Something about Mary, The Big Lebowski, A Bug's Life, Croupier, Lock Stock, Run Lola Run and Rushmore were released in the same year?
 
2012-01-24 02:22:44 PM

RhineStoneTaco: When was the last time a film that reviewed so poorly as "Extremely Loud & Incredibly Close" was nominated for Best Picture?


My first reaction was The Blind Side, but even it had a 66% Rotten Tomatoes score compared to the 48% for Tom Hank's 9/11 Ghost.
 
2012-01-24 02:24:13 PM

Vodka Zombie: The Undefeated?!? Really?

The academy's trolling is, I think. Did anyone even see that thing?


My thoughts exactly!
 
2012-01-24 02:24:41 PM

TravisBickle62: BalugaJoe: Jonah Hill should not be nominated for anything.

Yeah I was surprised by that, he was perfectly competent but the role didn't require a great deal in the way of acting.


Agreed, 100,000 actors could have been in that role and performed it as equally well as Hill.
 
2012-01-24 02:25:01 PM
Drive gets completely ignored in favor of Extremely Loud and Incredibly Close. Wow. Wowwwwwww. I try not to be surprised by the Academy favoring syrupy, saccharine garbage, but Jesus Christ.
 
2012-01-24 02:25:45 PM
Jonah Hill - Really is the white version of Cuba Gooding Jr.
 
2012-01-24 02:33:41 PM
Whoa......whoa, whoa, whoa....whoa.

Let me get this straight.....


Kung Fu Panda 2 And Puss In Boots are nominated for best Animated Feature.... And not The Adventures of Tintin?


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Why? For fark's sake....why? What the hell is the technical difference? All three are CGI animation.

Just....

But...

/the answer is obviously Academy trollin'
 
2012-01-24 02:37:40 PM

Jizz Master Zero: Meh. Okay, let's just do this instead of a big award show: We'll give a thirty minute speech about how your pretentious art house flick of choice is pretentious and not actually deserving of all the knob-slobbering it's getting, give Hugo everything it's up for, let Scorsese talk however long he damn well pleases, split the Best Actress between Mara and Elizabeth Olsen for Martha Marcy May Marlene, tell all the Best Actor nominees, "PSYCH," and toss that shiat out to Andy Serkis, let everyone from The Muppets know that their award isn't actually just for the song, but for being so Goddamned awesome, then call it a night.


I agree with all of this but with one addition - Throw a new award towards the makers of "The Artist" for trying something different (going back to how movies were once looked is now different?) and not doing ultra CGI to death, in your face but looking pointless 3D, IMAX, Michael Bay-splosion fest.
 
2012-01-24 02:44:59 PM
It's hilarious how people go on and on about how the Academy nominates just "art house films". No, that's not the problem. If they did then Poetry, Shame and Melancholia would have gotten their due.

The problem is the Academy just nominates mostly big budget schlock for mouthbreathers and establishment nominations with just the occasional "arty" nomination throw in to try to give it some artistic credence. What it's mostly concerned with is to getting as many attractive, non-ethnic people in a room as they can in tuxes and gowns for the cameras to be the "face" of Hollywood (it's also good to throw in the occasional token fat or black person to break up the monotony). That's why if George Clooney or Brad Pitt merely turn in a 7 performance, it will be nominated over those who turned in a 9 or a 10 who don't have the name or the irresistible smile.
 
2012-01-24 02:48:52 PM

InmanRoshi: That's why if George Clooney or Brad Pitt merely turn in a 7 performance, it will be nominated over those who turned in a 9 or a 10 who don't have the name or the irresistible smile


Oh, they'll nominate Brad Pitt in movies like Moneyball, but for his career-best performance in The Assassination of Jesse James by the Coward Robert Ford? Faaaaaaark that.

Speaking of that movie, at least you'll be in excellent company, Drive.
 
2012-01-24 02:54:08 PM
Second-best comic book movie ever made (Xmen) gets pushed aside.
 
2012-01-24 02:56:48 PM
Funny that Andy Serkis didn't get a nomination, but Figwit did.
 
2012-01-24 02:57:40 PM

pjlawrence81: sideshwtodd: As someone who enjoys acting/writing/tech, there are a few things that always drove me nuts about these award shows:

1) The fact that the writing award gets completely over looked. Pretty sure there would be no movie without the script. I'm sick and tired of people praising actors and directors, when the bulk of praise belongs to the person who made the movie possible. Don't even get me started when someone quotes a movie and attributes it to the farking actor that said the line.

2) The fact that the farking producers accept the award for best movie. Because out of everyone that made the movie what it was, the farking producers deserve the award.

3) The fact that the technical awards aren't shown on TV. Because who cares if we don't have cameramen. That's not important to the movie business.

And lastly why are we giving awards to the people who essentially fake playing real people. How about we skip all the bs, and praise and give the people they are supposed to represent 20 million dollars to do there jobs. How many actors have played teachers, cops, soldiers, activists, and scientist and have been given incredible praise and millions of dollars. I think this country would be in a much better position if the above jobs, were given the same money and praise as the people faking them.

You were making some good points until that last paragraph. So by your logic, the only actors who should get awards are those that play superheroes, aliens, & vampires, since, technically, those aren't real people.


No the whole awards thing is all bs. The point still stands that they are getting millions of dollars to pretend to due something.
 
2012-01-24 03:17:54 PM
Midnight in Paris was cute but on the whole was sentimentalized and pointless. If it was directed by a guy named Joe Johnson it wouldn't be considered.

Jesus this year had some stinkers.
 
2012-01-24 03:34:12 PM
Any holocaust movies this year? No? Retards? No? Guess you have to give it to the theatrical circle jerk
 
2012-01-24 03:44:59 PM

sweetmelissa31: No nominations for Human Centipede 2: Full Sequence?


The academy is waiting for Tom Six to complete the trilogy, then pile on the Oscars, like they did with Lord of the Rings.
 
2012-01-24 03:45:18 PM
Oscar Nominee
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2012-01-24 03:46:16 PM
Tinker Tailor Soldier Spy shoulöd have gotten a nod for art direction and cinematography. It's stilistically fantastic.

And yeah, best picture.
 
2012-01-24 03:47:11 PM

WhoIsWillo: In other news, "Man or Muppet" has to win Best Original Song, right?


Cue the "You just don't GET it" brigade.

This was a monotonous, boring song. It wasn't funny or even mildly amusing. I think if it wasn't written by whoever-the-hell-famous-for-absurdity-guy wrote it, it would have been written off and ignored.

/has no appreciation for value of meta-level entertainment if the surface level sucks
//it didn't work as a Muppet song. It just didn't.
 
2012-01-24 03:48:26 PM

HaywoodJablonski: Any holocaust movies this year? No? Retards? No? Guess you have to give it to the theatrical circle jerk


Extremely Loud is a 9/11 / holocaust / semi-autistic-kid combo.
 
2012-01-24 03:54:25 PM

HaywoodJablonski: Any holocaust movies this year? No? Retards? No? Guess you have to give it to the theatrical circle jerk


Fear not, "In Darkness" has it covered in the best foreign language film noms
 
2012-01-24 04:00:39 PM

sideshwtodd: 1) The fact that the writing award gets completely over looked. Pretty sure there would be no movie without the script. I'm sick and tired of people praising actors and directors, when the bulk of praise belongs to the person who made the movie possible. Don't even get me started when someone quotes a movie and attributes it to the farking actor that said the line.


I agree - it's the foundation of filmmaking. Get the story wrong and the rest simply doesn't matter.

I'm convinced it's why animation has such a better hit rate than any other form of movie making now. Actors get no say in the product and the storyboarding has to be far more thorough because of the cost of doing the animating.

The tragedy is that people follow actors, despite them being one of the worst indicators of a great film. You might as well see who's doing the cinematography or editing.
 
2012-01-24 04:02:31 PM

Mr. Parker: No nominations for drive? Academy fails!


Except for the fact that Drive wasn't very good, I totally agree with you.

/Really, really enjoyed the 1st half.
//Really, really, really hated the 2nd.
 
2012-01-24 04:05:12 PM

CarnySaur: sweetmelissa31: No nominations for Human Centipede 2: Full Sequence?

The academy is waiting for Tom Six to complete the trilogy, then pile on the Oscars, like they did with Lord of the Rings.


I LOL'd so hard at this I scared my dog.

/TY for the much needed guffaw.
 
2012-01-24 04:05:25 PM

farkeruk: DamnYankees: At the very least its the worst in the last 10 years. Next worst was The Reader at 62%.

Oscars aren't about the best films, and frequently pick absolutely horrible shiat over really good films. Anyone who uses them as a barometer is likely to be disappointed about half the time. The Oscars are far more about worthy films and bribery than great films, that's why some of them fade into obscurity while films that win nothing go on to become greats.

The worst film I've seen that won is Shakespeare in Love, a film whose only good moment was Gwyneth Paltrow's tits. Yet somehow, it beat both Elizabeth and Saving Private Ryan of the nominees, two films I've watched more than once. How can you sit through something as mindnumbingly tedious as Shakespeare in Love and then give it an award when the farking Truman Show, Out of Sight, There's Something about Mary, The Big Lebowski, A Bug's Life, Croupier, Lock Stock, Run Lola Run and Rushmore were released in the same year?


The same reason that cinematic Sominex known as The English Patient beat Fargo in 1996 and The King's Speech (which I liked a lot but no way was it better than The Social Network) won last year. Harvey Weinstein. The man is obsessed with winning Oscars and will spend insane amounts of money campaigning for them every year during Oscar season.
 
2012-01-24 04:06:10 PM

zerkalo: HaywoodJablonski: Any holocaust movies this year? No? Retards? No? Guess you have to give it to the theatrical circle jerk

Fear not, "In Darkness" has it covered in the best foreign language film noms


That's a relief. Thanks
 
2012-01-24 04:06:12 PM

farkeruk: The tragedy is that people follow actors, despite them being one of the worst indicators of a great film. You might as well see who's doing the cinematography or editing.


That's something about the movie going public that I simply don't get. I never saw a trailer and said "Wow, that looks like a flaming pile of turds ..... .but then again, it does have Will Smith in it."
 
2012-01-24 04:06:16 PM
Its not so much that its been a shiatty year for movies. The Academy just has terrible standards.

Great movies this year, none of which get a best picture nod.

Another Earth
Devil's Double
Drive
A Separation
Shame
Take Shelter
 
2012-01-24 04:07:05 PM

farkeruk: The tragedy is that people follow actors, despite them being one of the worst indicators of a great film. You might as well see who's doing the cinematography or editing.


If great movies were based on great writing alone, they'd be books. Suggesting that the cinematography, editing, and performances of a film don't have as much importance to a movie as the script is straight up laughable.
 
2012-01-24 04:08:33 PM

InmanRoshi: The problem is the Academy just nominates mostly big budget schlock for mouthbreathers and establishment nominations with just the occasional "arty" nomination throw in to try to give it some artistic credence. What it's mostly concerned with is to getting as many attractive, non-ethnic people in a room as they can in tuxes and gowns for the cameras to be the "face" of Hollywood (it's also good to throw in the occasional token fat or black person to break up the monotony). That's why if George Clooney or Brad Pitt merely turn in a 7 performance, it will be nominated over those who turned in a 9 or a 10 who don't have the name or the irresistible smile.


This is also why they created the animation ghetto (best animated movie). They want beautiful people in tuxes and frocks, not people that look like Brad Bird and John Lasseter. And by creating the Best Animated Movie category, they know that Pixar et al will compete harder for that and apply less energy to the main category.
 
2012-01-24 04:14:00 PM
I loved The Social Network but The King's Speech absolutely smoked it. Not even close.

Saving Private Ryan is a good movie, but not even close to Best Picture quality. The battle scenes are some of the best ever filmed but the dialog scenes are not well written at all.
 
2012-01-24 04:14:38 PM

randomstranger: Mr. Parker: No nominations for drive? Academy fails!

Except for the fact that Drive wasn't very good, I totally agree with you.

/Really, really enjoyed the 1st half.
//Really, really, really hated the 2nd.


'Wasn't very good' is your opinion. I thought it was superb throughout, unmatched mood/pacing/tone, and the best film I saw in 2011.
 
2012-01-24 04:16:47 PM

interface2x: I loved The Social Network but The King's Speech absolutely smoked it. Not even close.


The problem with the King's Speech is that its essentially EXACTLY what you think of when you think of an "Oscar Winning" film.

Historical? Check.
Royalty? Check.
War? Check.
Affliction treated by radical new thinking? Check.

Best film was also Winter's Bone
 
2012-01-24 04:20:54 PM
Damn, I haven't seen a single film listed on that page. I need to get out more.
 
2012-01-24 04:21:03 PM

Axissillian: Its not so much that its been a shiatty year for movies. The Academy just has terrible standards.

Great movies this year, none of which get a best picture nod.

Another Earth
Devil's Double
Drive
A Separation
Shame
Take Shelter


Agreed. It's actually been a very good year for films overall. It's just been a poor year for films which fit narrowly in the Academy's category of "Best Picture" (ie. American, generally like to star at least marketable name, happy ending preferable, no ugly people in major roles ... or at least a beautiful person playing someone with a physical or mental handicapp, some sort of over-reaching trite politically correct underlying message so they can pat their backs about how socially conscious they are, preferably a period piece or a modern movie that harkens back to a specific period)
 
2012-01-24 04:23:17 PM

InmanRoshi: no ugly people in major roles ... or at least a beautiful person playing someone with a physical or mental handicapp


This is the big thing I agree with you on. Its also why I refuse to watch the American Girl with The Dragon Tattoo.

In the original version, they cast actors who look realistically downtrodden and afflicted by their experiences. Daniel Craig looks like he has his existential crises while doing like a million crunches.
 
2012-01-24 04:24:19 PM

Axissillian: The problem with the King's Speech is that its essentially EXACTLY what you think of when you think of an "Oscar Winning" film.

Historical? Check.
Royalty? Check.
War? Check.
Affliction treated by radical new thinking? Check.


Leading actor with physical or mental handicap (check)

Widely respected method actor hamming it up and chewing up scenery in a supporting role (check).
 
2012-01-24 04:25:34 PM

PsyLord: Really? Sarah Palin? I never thought that these award shows had any merit. This just adds to that belief. Seriously, swag and awards for actors and musicians but no widely televised awards for teachers, scientists, doctors, humanitarians, etc? Our society sucks.



So, if there were an award show for Best History Teacher, would you watch it? They should all definetely be recognized and awarded more than they are, but come on, there is enough crap on tv without having to search through the Best Gynocologist Awards.

/then again...
 
2012-01-24 04:25:56 PM

InmanRoshi: Axissillian: The problem with the King's Speech is that its essentially EXACTLY what you think of when you think of an "Oscar Winning" film.

Historical? Check.
Royalty? Check.
War? Check.
Affliction treated by radical new thinking? Check.

Leading actor with physical or mental handicap (check)

Widely respected method actor hamming it up and chewing up scenery in a supporting role (check).


Not just war, but Nazis (check)
 
2012-01-24 04:28:09 PM

ben_reddy: PsyLord: Really? Sarah Palin? I never thought that these award shows had any merit. This just adds to that belief. Seriously, swag and awards for actors and musicians but no widely televised awards for teachers, scientists, doctors, humanitarians, etc? Our society sucks.


So, if there were an award show for Best History Teacher, would you watch it? They should all definetely be recognized and awarded more than they are, but come on, there is enough crap on tv without having to search through the Best Gynocologist Awards.

/then again...


I think we have safely reached the point in history where the merits of an award is inversely proportionate to whether it is on TV, and how many people watch it.

Cannes 4eva
 
2012-01-24 04:29:44 PM
Yeah, it fit a lot of the criteria but it was still a solid movie that struck all the right notes for me.
 
2012-01-24 04:33:47 PM

interface2x: Yeah, it fit a lot of the criteria but it was still a solid movie that struck all the right notes for me.


I feel like a category like "Best" deserves more than competent.

The idea of "Best" at the Academy Awards now seems to be "pretty film that makes us feel good/"

Like, compare Winter's Bone to The King's Speech

-More complex characters
-Morally and Emotionally challenging
-Devoid of any "moral" or "message"
-Doesn't focus on beautiful and affluent people
-Forces the viewer to question themselves as a participant
 
2012-01-24 04:34:27 PM

Axissillian: Like, compare Winter's Bone to The King's Speech


The King's Speech was a better movie than Winter's Bone.
 
2012-01-24 04:44:12 PM

Axissillian: -More complex characters
-Morally and Emotionally challenging
-Devoid of any "moral" or "message"
-Doesn't focus on beautiful and affluent people
-Forces the viewer to question themselves as a participant



- Also, no trite and convenient ending where all the characters go on to live happily ever after. The real story behind the King's Speech could have been more complex, but they decided to gloss over that whole Edward VIII being a blatant Nazi sympathizer, who actually Honymooned in Nazi Germany as a guest of Hitler, and Winston Churchill propping him up to keep him on the throne.

Winters Bone was a movie for grownups. The Kings Speech is a movie for people who wanted to escape being a grownup for a couple of hours. I guess in the end it's all subjective and a matter of taste, but I prefer the James Beard Award to not be handed out for cotton candy and gummy bears.
 
2012-01-24 04:47:48 PM

InmanRoshi:
- Also, no trite and convenient ending where all the characters go on to live happily ever after.


If I can be allowed to continue to stroke my Winter's boner, the most provocative part of the movie for me was that I found myself rooting for the character to succeed due to my sympathy for her needs despite objectively understanding that her and her family would actually be better off losing the house and being taken in by the state.

Being able to root for a character making the wrong decision because you are given the opportunity to understand their motive's for making it is storytelling at its finest.
 
2012-01-24 04:51:45 PM

ben_reddy: PsyLord: Really? Sarah Palin? I never thought that these award shows had any merit. This just adds to that belief. Seriously, swag and awards for actors and musicians but no widely televised awards for teachers, scientists, doctors, humanitarians, etc? Our society sucks.


So, if there were an award show for Best History Teacher, would you watch it? They should all definetely be recognized and awarded more than they are, but come on, there is enough crap on tv without having to search through the Best Gynocologist Awards.

/then again...


I guess that's why the technical awards for the Academy Awards are not really televised. The smart, hard working people behind the cameras are not as interesting as the pretty actors.

/this world needs an enema
 
2012-01-24 04:53:33 PM

DamnYankees: Axissillian: Like, compare Winter's Bone to The King's Speech

The King's Speech was a better movie than Winter's Bone.


...in your opinion. And that's fine.
 
2012-01-24 04:58:45 PM

bigmattress: DamnYankees: Axissillian: Like, compare Winter's Bone to The King's Speech

The King's Speech was a better movie than Winter's Bone.

...in your opinion. And that's fine.


Absolutely, but its annoying when people condescend to those that might think that. As if people who think its better than Winter's Bone are just dumb or easily placated.
 
2012-01-24 05:02:24 PM

DamnYankees:

Absolutely, but its annoying when people condescend to those that might think that. As if people who think its better than Winter's Bone are just dumb or easily placated.


Who was condescending? There are generally agreed upon criteria for what makes art great. If there weren't, there would be no realistic reason not to give 'Twilight' the Pulitzer prize. I was simply pointing out that by the standards most critics use to define great film-making, Winter's Bone is pretty much the better film.
 
2012-01-24 05:03:32 PM

DamnYankees: bigmattress: DamnYankees: Axissillian: Like, compare Winter's Bone to The King's Speech

The King's Speech was a better movie than Winter's Bone.

...in your opinion. And that's fine.

Absolutely, but its annoying when people condescend to those that might think that. As if people who think its better than Winter's Bone are just dumb or easily placated.


I could see that. My guess is that you don't think of yourself of as either, though, so don't sweat it, man.
 
2012-01-24 05:03:58 PM

Axissillian: I was simply pointing out that by the standards most critics use to define great film-making, Winter's Bone is pretty much the better film.


The King's Speech got a 95% on RT, and Winter's Bone got a 94%.

So, most critics don't think its a better film. Obviously this is a stupid argument since both are incredibly good films, but please stop pretending you have some claim to objectivity.
 
2012-01-24 05:07:05 PM
I'd like to give Jennifer Lawrence the bone.

/the bone is my penis
 
2012-01-24 05:07:43 PM

DamnYankees: bigmattress: DamnYankees: Axissillian: Like, compare Winter's Bone to The King's Speech

The King's Speech was a better movie than Winter's Bone.

...in your opinion. And that's fine.

Absolutely, but its annoying when people condescend to those that might think that. As if people who think its better than Winter's Bone are just dumb or easily placated.


I really liked Winter's Bone but my guess is that 10 years from now it will be The Kings speech they play on tbs along with Shawshank and The Hunt for Red October. And just like both those movies, no matter where in the movie it's at I'll be magically compelled to leave it on that channel and watch the rest of it.
 
2012-01-24 05:10:56 PM

Hoboclown: If great movies were based on great writing alone, they'd be books. Suggesting that the cinematography, editing, and performances of a film don't have as much importance to a movie as the script is straight up laughable.


They don't. The script is the fundamental part of the movie, because what we actually care about in movies is the really basic stuff of story, character and dialogue. Take a poor script and throw a great director and cast at it and you'll still get a poor movie.

A bad script is like getting bad food in a restaurant. It doesn't matter that the decor, music and service were good, it's still not a good restaurant. If you get good food, but bad decor and service, you'd probably consider it as an OK restaurant. A great restaurant is when the food, service and decor are all good.
 
2012-01-24 05:12:39 PM

farkeruk: The script is the fundamental part of the movie, because what we actually care about in movies is the really basic stuff of story, character and dialogue.


We do? Who are you speaking for here, exactly?

If all I wanted from a movie was story, character and dialogue I would just set up a tripod and film plays put on in the Old Vic. But that would make a terrible farking movie.

Meanwhile, movies like Fantasia, Baraka and Koyaanisqatsi are brilliant films even though they literally have no story, no characters and no dialogue.
 
2012-01-24 05:12:46 PM

gunga galunga: I'd like to give Jennifer Lawrence the bone.

/the bone is my penis


I don't get it.
 
2012-01-24 05:27:19 PM

DamnYankees: Meanwhile, movies like Fantasia, Baraka and Koyaanisqatsi are brilliant films even though they literally have no story, no characters and no dialogue.


Which are really just music videos/soundscapes. Just because it's on a theater, doesn't make it a movie, unless you also consider U2's Rattle and Hum to be a movie.
 
2012-01-24 05:30:05 PM

farkeruk: DamnYankees: Meanwhile, movies like Fantasia, Baraka and Koyaanisqatsi are brilliant films even though they literally have no story, no characters and no dialogue.

Which are really just music videos/soundscapes. Just because it's on a theater, doesn't make it a movie, unless you also consider U2's Rattle and Hum to be a movie.


*sigh* Dude, you're not helping yourself. Very incorrect.
 
2012-01-24 05:39:33 PM

buck1138: I really liked Winter's Bone but my guess is that 10 years from now it will be The Kings speech they play on tbs along with Shawshank and The Hunt for Red October. And just like both those movies, no matter where in the movie it's at I'll be magically compelled to leave it on that channel and watch the rest of it.


REO Speedwagon's 1980 Take It On the Run still gets regular airplay on classic rock stations. It's still a shiatty song, and many other songs and albums released that year that are much better despite not getting regular radio play today.
 
2012-01-24 05:40:42 PM

InmanRoshi: buck1138: I really liked Winter's Bone but my guess is that 10 years from now it will be The Kings speech they play on tbs along with Shawshank and The Hunt for Red October. And just like both those movies, no matter where in the movie it's at I'll be magically compelled to leave it on that channel and watch the rest of it.

REO Speedwagon's 1980 Take It On the Run still gets regular airplay on classic rock stations. It's still a shiatty song, and many other songs and albums released that year that are much better despite not getting regular radio play today.


True, I do the same thing if Roadhouse is on.
 
2012-01-24 05:42:28 PM
Nice to see Warhorse got a nom, Sarah Jessica Parker really put everything she had into that role.
 
2012-01-24 05:42:51 PM

farkeruk: A bad script is like getting bad food in a restaurant. It doesn't matter that the decor, music and service were good, it's still not a good restaurant. If you get good food, but bad decor and service, you'd probably consider it as an OK restaurant. A great restaurant is when the food, service and decor are all good.


Lousy analogy. The script by itself might be the recipe, but it takes quality ingredients and someone who knows how to cook to make a decent meal.

The script is the plot. The script plus the direction, cinematography, score, editing and performances is the movie. The writing is important, sure, but you're saying that's the only thing people are going to see. Seems like Hollywood could save a lot of money just publishing the scripts in book form and selling them in stores. It'd make the same money, right? Since that's all people want?

farkeruk: DamnYankees: Meanwhile, movies like Fantasia, Baraka and Koyaanisqatsi are brilliant films even though they literally have no story, no characters and no dialogue.

Which are really just music videos/soundscapes. Just because it's on a theater, doesn't make it a movie, unless you also consider U2's Rattle and Hum to be a movie.


Hahaha, what??
 
2012-01-24 05:45:28 PM

bigmattress: gunga galunga: I'd like to give Jennifer Lawrence the bone.

/the bone is my penis

I don't get it.


It's a "way homer".
 
2012-01-24 05:47:41 PM

gunga galunga: bigmattress: gunga galunga: I'd like to give Jennifer Lawrence the bone.

/the bone is my penis

I don't get it.

It's a "way homer".


images.wikia.com
/hot like Dot
 
2012-01-24 06:00:05 PM
My wife wants to get in the habit of seeing all of the Best Picture nominees every year. I was on board but after seeing the list...ehhhhhhh. Only ones I really want to see are Moneyball, The Help (kinda) and Descendants.

Has anyone seen Tree of Life? What exactly am I in for? The reviews make it sound like a David Lynch flick and I hate that kind of vague avant-garde weirdness.

/she's on her own for the Woody Allen movie, can't stand that guy.
 
2012-01-24 06:09:30 PM

xalres: My wife wants to get in the habit of seeing all of the Best Picture nominees every year. I was on board but after seeing the list...ehhhhhhh. Only ones I really want to see are Moneyball, The Help (kinda) and Descendants.

Has anyone seen Tree of Life? What exactly am I in for? The reviews make it sound like a David Lynch flick and I hate that kind of vague avant-garde weirdness.

/she's on her own for the Woody Allen movie, can't stand that guy.


I haven't seen The Tree of Life, but Woody Allen isn't actually in Midnight in Paris, so you shouldn't let that stop you. My brother-in-law feels the same way about him, but he enjoyed the movie.
 
2012-01-24 06:12:07 PM
"Academy Award Winning" basically means hacky, tepid crappy these days. Come on, these are the people who chose Dances with Wolves over Goodfellas! And Crash over Brokeback Mountain!
 
2012-01-24 06:13:34 PM

Axissillian: interface2x: I loved The Social Network but The King's Speech absolutely smoked it. Not even close.

The problem with the King's Speech is that its essentially EXACTLY what you think of when you think of an "Oscar Winning" film.

Historical? Check.
Royalty? Check.
War? Check.
Affliction treated by radical new thinking? Check.

Best film was also Winter's Bone


Not to mention that as far as other Oscars for King's Speech go, they clearly were giving Colin Firth a makeup Oscar for that one because they didn't give him one the year before for A Single Man. Not that Firth wasn't excellent in the role, but that's not the role I would have given him an Oscar for because awkward and uptight posh British period drama is his bread and butter. Heck, I'd give him a supporting actor Oscar for Tinker Tailor Soldier Spy ahead of giving him one for King's Speech (and I think he was at most the 3rd best supporting performance in that behind Strong and Cumberbatch).
 
2012-01-24 06:19:58 PM

gunga galunga: xalres: My wife wants to get in the habit of seeing all of the Best Picture nominees every year. I was on board but after seeing the list...ehhhhhhh. Only ones I really want to see are Moneyball, The Help (kinda) and Descendants.

Has anyone seen Tree of Life? What exactly am I in for? The reviews make it sound like a David Lynch flick and I hate that kind of vague avant-garde weirdness.

/she's on her own for the Woody Allen movie, can't stand that guy.

I haven't seen The Tree of Life, but Woody Allen isn't actually in Midnight in Paris, so you shouldn't let that stop you. My brother-in-law feels the same way about him, but he enjoyed the movie.


It's more about one of those running arguments we have. She actively hates Michael Jackson's music because she thinks he's a creepy pedo but thinks I need to look past that kind of thing and see the artistic merits of the works of guys like Woody Allen or Roman Polanski. It helps that I don't like the styles of either of those guys.
 
2012-01-24 06:21:02 PM
Random thoughts:

-No Tintin in Animated Film? Shocking, that.

-A Muppet movie could score an Oscar. I'm down for that.

-Not surprised to see The Artist get a crapload of nominations.

-"Academy Award nominee Kristen Wiig"? I don't feel good about this.

-"Academy Award nominee Jonah Hill"? I don't feel good about this.

-"Academy Award nominee Gary Oldman"? I d-... okay, THAT'S boss.

-Trent Reznor didn't get another Best Score nomination this year? Huh. I would've counted on that.

-I'd love to see someone other than Meryl Streep win Best Actress this year, if only for the simple reason that the other four nominees haven't won anything.

-I'm surprised that Extremely Loud and Incredibly Close scored a Best Picture nomination with such lukewarm reviews (namely, overall rotten ratings at Rotten Tomatoes), but it's interesting to see Max von Sydow back in the hunt for an Oscar.
 
2012-01-24 06:28:04 PM

xalres: My wife wants to get in the habit of seeing all of the Best Picture nominees every year. I was on board but after seeing the list...ehhhhhhh. Only ones I really want to see are Moneyball, The Help (kinda) and Descendants.

Has anyone seen Tree of Life? What exactly am I in for? The reviews make it sound like a David Lynch flick and I hate that kind of vague avant-garde weirdness.

/she's on her own for the Woody Allen movie, can't stand that guy.


If you're not that bright, but want to feel like you are for a couple hours, watch Tree of Life. Otherwise watch a decent Malick flick like Badlands.
 
2012-01-24 06:31:55 PM

DamnYankees: rynthetyn: I'm glad Gary Oldman got a nomination for Tinker Tailor Soldier Spy. He was absolutely amazing in that role.

rynthetyn: I'm glad Gary Oldman got a nomination for Tinker Tailor Soldier Spy. He was absolutely amazing in that role.

Everyone was amazing in that movie. An acting clinic.


REPEATED FOR EMPHASIS.

That was the best damn movie of the year for me. I haven't seen The Artist or The Decendants but I can tell you that the best that can be said for Moneyball is that it knew its place. It wasn't high drama, it wasn't intimate drama. It was a nice, little work-place drama. That's all.

Tinker was a masterpiece. A genre masterpiece, sure, but a masterpiece nonetheless.
 
2012-01-24 06:35:16 PM
A nomination for Best Original Screenplay for a movie without any dialogue?

That's a shark-jumpin'!
 
2012-01-24 06:52:35 PM

sunsawed: A nomination for Best Original Screenplay for a movie without any dialogue?

That's a shark-jumpin'!


I don't think you know what a screenplay is or its function in a movie.
 
2012-01-24 06:52:35 PM

sunsawed: A nomination for Best Original Screenplay for a movie without any dialogue?

That's a shark-jumpin'!


What?! You're joking right?

*clicks*

Holy shiat!
 
2012-01-24 06:55:36 PM

Toshiro Mifune's Letter Opener: Random thoughts:

-No Tintin in Animated Film? Shocking, that.

-A Muppet movie could score an Oscar. I'm down for that.

-Not surprised to see The Artist get a crapload of nominations.

-"Academy Award nominee Kristen Wiig"? I don't feel good about this.

-"Academy Award nominee Jonah Hill"? I don't feel good about this.

-"Academy Award nominee Gary Oldman"? I d-... okay, THAT'S boss.

-Trent Reznor didn't get another Best Score nomination this year? Huh. I would've counted on that.

-I'd love to see someone other than Meryl Streep win Best Actress this year, if only for the simple reason that the other four nominees haven't won anything.

-I'm surprised that Extremely Loud and Incredibly Close scored a Best Picture nomination with such lukewarm reviews (namely, overall rotten ratings at Rotten Tomatoes), but it's interesting to see Max von Sydow back in the hunt for an Oscar.


From what I read TinTin was not nominated because the Academy doesn't view Mo-Cap as Animation. Although it won the Golden Globe for best animation.
 
2012-01-24 07:01:32 PM

K.B.O. Winston: DamnYankees: rynthetyn: I'm glad Gary Oldman got a nomination for Tinker Tailor Soldier Spy. He was absolutely amazing in that role.

rynthetyn: I'm glad Gary Oldman got a nomination for Tinker Tailor Soldier Spy. He was absolutely amazing in that role.

Everyone was amazing in that movie. An acting clinic.

REPEATED FOR EMPHASIS.

That was the best damn movie of the year for me. I haven't seen The Artist or The Decendants but I can tell you that the best that can be said for Moneyball is that it knew its place. It wasn't high drama, it wasn't intimate drama. It was a nice, little work-place drama. That's all.

Tinker was a masterpiece. A genre masterpiece, sure, but a masterpiece nonetheless.


Honestly, I think that the reason Tinker didn't get more nominations than it got is because so many people got ridiculously confused by the story because it didn't spell out and telegraph every little thing. If the general populous weren't used to being spoon-fed, I'm convinced that it would have gotten more buzz and more nominations than it got.

The level of stupid with regards to audience reaction to that movie was facepalmingly high.

/I wanted to head-desk over the number of message board comments I saw asking variations of, "why was Peter crying over kicking his roommate out?"
 
2012-01-24 07:01:53 PM
Man in the BoX: From what I read TinTin was not nominated because the Academy doesn't view Mo-Cap as Animation. Although it won the Golden Globe for best animation.

Ohhhh... okay, gotcha.


sunsawed: A nomination for Best Original Screenplay for a movie without any dialogue?

That's a shark-jumpin'!


There's more to a screenplay than spoken words.

Case in point, Wall-E. It got a screenplay nomination, and a lot of that's due to that dialogue-free (but brilliant) first half-hour or so.

Or what DamnYankees said.
 
2012-01-24 07:02:32 PM

Thraeryn: I'm really surprised that more songs from "The Muppets" weren't nominated; I didn't think Bret wrote them all, but maybe I'm wrong.

Did anyone SEE "Rio" to know if that song was worth consideration?


It's Sergio Mendes, so you're goddamn right it is.
 
2012-01-24 07:06:15 PM

rynthetyn: I wanted to head-desk over the number of message board comments I saw asking variations of, "why was Peter crying over kicking his roommate out?"


I have to admit that was a very abrupt scene, seemingly coming out of nowhere. I thought the Mark Strong stuff was a little more evocative while treading similar territory.
 
2012-01-24 07:14:06 PM

Hoboclown: farkeruk: A bad script is like getting bad food in a restaurant. It doesn't matter that the decor, music and service were good, it's still not a good restaurant. If you get good food, but bad decor and service, you'd probably consider it as an OK restaurant. A great restaurant is when the food, service and decor are all good.

Lousy analogy. The script by itself might be the recipe, but it takes quality ingredients and someone who knows how to cook to make a decent meal.

The script is the plot. The script plus the direction, cinematography, score, editing and performances is the movie. The writing is important, sure, but you're saying that's the only thing people are going to see. Seems like Hollywood could save a lot of money just publishing the scripts in book form and selling them in stores. It'd make the same money, right? Since that's all people want?


The script is a helluva lot more than the plot, but you're not wrong.

The writing is the most important element by leaps and bounds for novels and plays. For everything else, the other contributions make a huge difference.

See: all the recent Batman movies. Poor, cheesy scripts, decent movies. Visually fun and interesting with good performances. Also, Bridesmaids had no ending, but was still a fun time at the theatre.

/what career subplot?
//the thing that only the true best friend can do is... knock louder? No last min cake? No finding the bride at her parents' cabin?
///still funny
 
2012-01-24 07:15:30 PM

DamnYankees: rynthetyn: I wanted to head-desk over the number of message board comments I saw asking variations of, "why was Peter crying over kicking his roommate out?"

I have to admit that was a very abrupt scene, seemingly coming out of nowhere. I thought the Mark Strong stuff was a little more evocative while treading similar territory.


But at least you figured out what was happening. An awful lot of people didn't have the slightest clue that it was a breakup scene, and didn't get it even after it was spelled out for them that Smiley told Peter that if he had anything in his personal life that could put him under scrutiny he needed to take care of it, and that the next scene is showing Peter doing just that.

And even fewer people seemed to have picked up on the fact that Hayden's betrayal of Prideaux was personal as well as professional because they'd had some sort of thing in the past. Picking up on that puts you in the minority of viewers.
 
2012-01-24 07:15:54 PM
Puss in Boots gets nominated for best animated feature, but The Adventures of Tintin doesn't? This is some bullshiat right here. Also, Tintin only got nominated for original musical score, but not for screenplay adaption. No me gusta.

/glad Hugo is getting a lot of nominations, though.
 
2012-01-24 07:20:45 PM

xalres:
Has anyone seen Tree of Life? What exactly am I in for? The reviews make it sound like a David Lynch flick and I hate that kind of vague avant-garde weirdness..


It did nothing for me. I think there was an interesting story in there, but Mallick spent too much time trying to be meta and I got bored. I don't understand the love.

/Mixed about the nominees like everyone else
//Need to go see Hugo and The Artist (plus a few others)
///Very happy about Man or Muppet
 
2012-01-24 07:38:36 PM

Toshiro Mifune's Letter Opener:
-Trent Reznor didn't get another Best Score nomination this year? Huh. I would've counted on that.


I wasn't so sure about it this time around. The score for the Social Network is front and center, driving the action. The score for Dragon Tattoo is more atmospheric, more of a "set the scene" type of score. It's definitely not as flashy, though it is good. So I'm not too surprised that it didn't get the nod.
 
2012-01-24 07:48:04 PM

Man in the BoX: Toshiro Mifune's Letter Opener: Random thoughts:

-No Tintin in Animated Film? Shocking, that.

From what I read TinTin was not nominated because the Academy doesn't view Mo-Cap as Animation. Although it won the Golden Globe for best animation.


Which is something that the Academy needs to change. Mo-Cap is just as artistically intensive and challenging as CGI. And the Academy didn't even consider CGI to be animation until Toy Story 1, iirc.

The MPAA clinging on to obsolete ideas while technology pushes forward. Gee, where have we heard this story before?
 
2012-01-24 07:55:39 PM
interface2x: I wasn't so sure about it this time around. The score for the Social Network is front and center, driving the action. The score for Dragon Tattoo is more atmospheric, more of a "set the scene" type of score. It's definitely not as flashy, though it is good. So I'm not too surprised that it didn't get the nod.

Yeah, I didn't mean so much that it was good, but that he would've surfed the wave of Oscar goodwill from the previous year.

Good point, is what I'm trying to say.
 
2012-01-24 08:02:37 PM

rynthetyn: DamnYankees: rynthetyn: I wanted to head-desk over the number of message board comments I saw asking variations of, "why was Peter crying over kicking his roommate out?"

I have to admit that was a very abrupt scene, seemingly coming out of nowhere. I thought the Mark Strong stuff was a little more evocative while treading similar territory.

But at least you figured out what was happening. An awful lot of people didn't have the slightest clue that it was a breakup scene, and didn't get it even after it was spelled out for them that Smiley told Peter that if he had anything in his personal life that could put him under scrutiny he needed to take care of it, and that the next scene is showing Peter doing just that.

And even fewer people seemed to have picked up on the fact that Hayden's betrayal of Prideaux was personal as well as professional because they'd had some sort of thing in the past. Picking up on that puts you in the minority of viewers.


I don't know how people could fail to see those things, especially the Prideaxu-Hayden stuff. I mean, Prideaux cried when he did...that thing. Why else would he do that?
 
2012-01-24 08:12:29 PM

theknuckler_33: Sarah Palin got a nomination

I don't think that's right. Maybe I'm splkitting hairs, but I don't see her name listed. I think those guys were the producers. She got a 'writer' credit on that movie because it was based on 'her' book. Even if it were to win (which won't happen)_, I don't think Palin will have the trophy.

Besides, "Paradise Lost 3: Purgatory" was really good. I didn't see the other nominees, but The Undefeated should lose (be defeated by, lol!) to that one at least.


If you do a quick check, you'll see that "Undefeated" was not "The Undefeated." The movie that was nominated had nothing to do with Sarah Palin.

Like you, I was also surprised Paradise Lost 3 didn't get nominated. This was a series of films that literally saved someone's life. Of course, I guess it's not surprising since the first one didn't get nominated either, and that was one of the best documentaries ever made.
 
2012-01-24 08:22:26 PM
By the way, why is the Academy fawning over Bridesmaids? I watched it a few weeks ago, and while parts of it were funny, it wasn't the comedy masterpiece everyone made it out to be. Really, it just came off like a hybrid of Sex and The City and The Hangover.
 
2012-01-24 09:48:29 PM

stoli n coke: Like you, I was also surprised Paradise Lost 3 didn't get nominated. This was a series of films that literally saved someone's life. Of course, I guess it's not surprising since the first one didn't get nominated either, and that was one of the best documentaries ever made.


Documentary (Feature)

• "Hell and Back Again" Danfung Dennis and Mike Lerner
• "If a Tree Falls: A Story of the Earth Liberation Front" Marshall Curry and Sam Cullman
• "Paradise Lost 3: Purgatory" Charles Ferguson and Audrey Marrs
• "Pina" Wim Wenders and Gian-Piero Ringel
• "Undefeated" TJ Martin, Dan Lindsay and Richard Middlemas
 
2012-01-24 10:05:02 PM

DamnYankees: rynthetyn: DamnYankees: rynthetyn: I wanted to head-desk over the number of message board comments I saw asking variations of, "why was Peter crying over kicking his roommate out?"

I have to admit that was a very abrupt scene, seemingly coming out of nowhere. I thought the Mark Strong stuff was a little more evocative while treading similar territory.

But at least you figured out what was happening. An awful lot of people didn't have the slightest clue that it was a breakup scene, and didn't get it even after it was spelled out for them that Smiley told Peter that if he had anything in his personal life that could put him under scrutiny he needed to take care of it, and that the next scene is showing Peter doing just that.

And even fewer people seemed to have picked up on the fact that Hayden's betrayal of Prideaux was personal as well as professional because they'd had some sort of thing in the past. Picking up on that puts you in the minority of viewers.

I don't know how people could fail to see those things, especially the Prideaxu-Hayden stuff. I mean, Prideaux cried when he did...that thing. Why else would he do that?


Apparently American moviegoers just don't get it unless every single thing is spelled out for them in very small words. I guess this is also why gay characters always get introduced in movies and TV shows with the fact that they're gay being front and center, and then repeated multiple times throughout the movie--otherwise half the audience would miss it.

One of the reasons I liked Tinker so much was because it's one of the rare movies where I don't have the entire movie figured out in the first 20 minutes. Most of the time movies, even "artsy" ones, are so busy telegraphing the plot to the audience so they'll understand what's going on that I can tell what's coming from early on. It was nice to be able to sit back, relax, and watch the story unfold without knowing exactly where it's headed.
 
2012-01-24 10:36:18 PM

rynthetyn: DamnYankees: rynthetyn: Prideaux-Haydon gay subtext.


This is somewhat a mystery to me, because why would you jump at that assumption?
Firstly, none of them were gay in the book. In the case of Guillam it worked very well for the film.
And with Haydon-Prideaux it was merely a long and outstanding friendship, kinda like cop partners. Maybe because the scene with Guillam was so explicit, people just made that connection, but traitorous agent unwilling to kill partner is one of the oldest tropes ever.

/Don't get me wrong, the movie is a masterpiece
 
2012-01-25 12:04:18 AM

farkeruk: The worst film I've seen that won is Shakespeare in Love


Never seen How Green Was My Valley, have you?

/won 5 Oscars
 
2012-01-25 12:09:27 AM

robsul82: stoli n coke: Like you, I was also surprised Paradise Lost 3 didn't get nominated. This was a series of films that literally saved someone's life. Of course, I guess it's not surprising since the first one didn't get nominated either, and that was one of the best documentaries ever made.

Documentary (Feature)

• "Hell and Back Again" Danfung Dennis and Mike Lerner
• "If a Tree Falls: A Story of the Earth Liberation Front" Marshall Curry and Sam Cullman
• "Paradise Lost 3: Purgatory" Charles Ferguson and Audrey Marrs
• "Pina" Wim Wenders and Gian-Piero Ringel
• "Undefeated" TJ Martin, Dan Lindsay and Richard Middlemas


Must have scanned over it. Cool. After 18 years, Berlinger and Sinofsky deserve some recognition.
 
2012-01-25 12:48:50 AM

nameofperson: rynthetyn: DamnYankees: rynthetyn: Prideaux-Haydon gay subtext.

This is somewhat a mystery to me, because why would you jump at that assumption?
Firstly, none of them were gay in the book. In the case of Guillam it worked very well for the film.
And with Haydon-Prideaux it was merely a long and outstanding friendship, kinda like cop partners. Maybe because the scene with Guillam was so explicit, people just made that connection, but traitorous agent unwilling to kill partner is one of the oldest tropes ever.

/Don't get me wrong, the movie is a masterpiece


I still haven't read the books because I've got too many other things to read, but everything I've read indicated that it *was* fairly clearly indicated in the books as well that at least at university they'd had some sort of relationship that was not merely platonic.

In any case, as far as the movie goes, even if you write off everything else as buddy-cop dynamic, the Christmas party flashback and the glances they exchange telegraphs pretty heavily that there's more history between the two of them than simply friendship. Also, that Haydon left an envelope for a "girl" (in a tone that implied it was someone he'd been seeing) and also for a "boy" (in the same tone as with the other envelope) is about as strong an indicator as you're going to get, without the character making an announcement, that he's bisexual.
 
2012-01-25 01:15:07 AM

rynthetyn: nameofperson: rynthetyn: DamnYankees: rynthetyn: Prideaux-Haydon gay subtext.

/Don't get me wrong, the movie is a masterpiece

I still haven't read the books because I've got too many other things to read, but everything I've read indicated that it *was* fairly clearly indicated in the books as well that at least at university they'd had some sort of relationship that was not merely platonic.

In any case, as far as the movie goes, even if you write off everything else as buddy-cop dynamic, the Christmas party flashback and the glances they exchange telegraphs pretty heavily that there's more history between the two of them than simply friendship. Also, that Haydon left an envelope for a "girl" (in a tone that implied it was someone he'd been seeing) and also for a "boy" (in the same tone as with the other envelope) is about as strong an indicator as you're going to get, without the character making an announcement, that he's bisexual.


In trying to remember, I actually went for the book and looked, and it's only 2 sentences, but Haydon refers to a "sailor friend" of his, and asks for Smiley to pay him off. His current girl also mentions him when confronted by Smiley, suggesting maybe he had run away with him.

Anyway, I stand corrected, guess that's just a testament to how complex and deep the book is. I believe a re-reading is in my future.
 
2012-01-25 01:39:57 AM

nameofperson: rynthetyn: nameofperson: rynthetyn: DamnYankees: rynthetyn: Prideaux-Haydon gay subtext.

/Don't get me wrong, the movie is a masterpiece

I still haven't read the books because I've got too many other things to read, but everything I've read indicated that it *was* fairly clearly indicated in the books as well that at least at university they'd had some sort of relationship that was not merely platonic.

In any case, as far as the movie goes, even if you write off everything else as buddy-cop dynamic, the Christmas party flashback and the glances they exchange telegraphs pretty heavily that there's more history between the two of them than simply friendship. Also, that Haydon left an envelope for a "girl" (in a tone that implied it was someone he'd been seeing) and also for a "boy" (in the same tone as with the other envelope) is about as strong an indicator as you're going to get, without the character making an announcement, that he's bisexual.

In trying to remember, I actually went for the book and looked, and it's only 2 sentences, but Haydon refers to a "sailor friend" of his, and asks for Smiley to pay him off. His current girl also mentions him when confronted by Smiley, suggesting maybe he had run away with him.

Anyway, I stand corrected, guess that's just a testament to how complex and deep the book is. I believe a re-reading is in my future.


I'd also wager that not catching that is also a function of the fact that the modern audience is a lot more attuned to picking up that sort of subtext today than even a few years ago.
 
2012-01-25 09:48:30 AM

DamnYankees: Axissillian: Like, compare Winter's Bone to The King's Speech

The King's Speech was a better movie than Winter's Bone.


Um, no.
 
2012-01-25 09:50:40 AM

rynthetyn: I'm glad Gary Oldman got a nomination for Tinker Tailor Soldier Spy. He was absolutely amazing in that role.


Agree, one the best actor's for several decades now, glad he finally for a nomination
 
2012-01-25 09:51:22 AM

RhineStoneTaco: When was the last time a film that reviewed so poorly as "Extremely Loud & Incredibly Close" was nominated for Best Picture?


Crash. Please don't let lightning strike twice.
 
2012-01-25 10:33:37 AM

raymondbree: DamnYankees: Axissillian: Like, compare Winter's Bone to The King's Speech

The King's Speech was a better movie than Winter's Bone.

Um, no.


Um, yes: 8.2 vs. 7.3 on imdb.com.
 
2012-01-25 01:55:20 PM

Speaker2Animals: raymondbree: DamnYankees: Axissillian: Like, compare Winter's Bone to The King's Speech

The King's Speech was a better movie than Winter's Bone.

Um, no.

Um, yes: 8.2 vs. 7.3 on imdb.com.


Because when I look for a barometer on quality, the first place I go is the IMDB user's ratings.
 
2012-01-25 03:43:27 PM

RoyFokker'sGhost: Which is something that the Academy needs to change. Mo-Cap is just as artistically intensive and challenging as CGI.


Um. No. HELL NO.

Mo-cap to actual cgi animation is what rotoscoping is to actual hand-drawn animation.

Example: Pixar does NOT use mo-cap.
 
2012-01-26 10:55:08 AM

Toshiro Mifune's Letter Opener: Case in point, Wall-E. It got a screenplay nomination, and a lot of that's due to that dialogue-free (but brilliant) first half-hour or so.


It lost to Milk. I've read both screenplays. Wall-E is better.

/Best screenplay I've read is "The Apostle"
 
2012-01-26 03:46:13 PM
Came for hot Tina Fey pics

/ left disappoint
 
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