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(TG Daily)   Leading researcher says magic mushrooms could treat depression, details results of study involving seven pink unicorns, two rainbow colored Andean mountain goats and a really long chat with Jim Morrison's ghost   (tgdaily.com) divider line 122
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2012-01-24 11:23:50 AM
purple monkey dishwasher...
 
2012-01-24 11:24:01 AM
Yeah, but from what I've read, the purple monkey dishwasher sometimes scares the ever loving bejesus out of some people and instead of a mellow, introspective high that leaves them at peace with the world, they freak the fark out and stay that way.
 
2012-01-24 11:24:26 AM
Yeah, doin' M's yields about a six-month long anti-depressant effect;
 
2012-01-24 11:25:36 AM
That's interesting. I've always needed to start drinking a twelve pack at the halfway point to not come down depressed. By the time it levels off I'm in party mode. Then pass out mode.
 
2012-01-24 11:25:50 AM
Don't have time to look this up, but iirc the use of hallucinogens to treat depression isn't a new thing, it's just proceeded very, very slowly as a line of study because only like two labs are allowed to touch the research materials at any given time.
 
2012-01-24 11:25:54 AM
I saw a similar study recently from Johns Hopkins that demonstrated similar results.
Link (new window)
As someone who currently has depression, this is relevant to my interests.
 
2012-01-24 11:27:18 AM
The psychadelic mushroom experience particularly when you achieve ego loss and ego death is perhaps one of the most literally therapeutic and intraspective moments one can have in life. You can achieve levels of tranquility and peace and a literal spiritual experience that will change your life. Almost certainly for the better.
 
2012-01-24 11:27:30 AM
Ain't no such thing as a 'bad' trip, some are just of a more insightful nature than others.


//I blame
//baeocystin
 
2012-01-24 11:28:06 AM
Any word if one of the pharma companies figured out a way to patent it?
 
2012-01-24 11:29:00 AM
Where do I sign up for clinical testing? Oh, and how do you double blind a study with hallucinogens.
 
2012-01-24 11:29:38 AM
As someone that just posted a new thread on shroomery.org (less than 30 seconds ago), I'm getting a trippy kick out of this...
 
2012-01-24 11:29:51 AM

wildcardjack: Where do I sign up for clinical testing? Oh, and how do you double blind a study with hallucinogens.


Sugar pill.

I bet someone still has a trip.
 
2012-01-24 11:31:12 AM
Mushrooms need their own numerical designation, like cannabis. I'm no authority, but I hear that cubies like around 85 F and 85% humidity.
 
2012-01-24 11:31:35 AM

wildcardjack: Oh, and how do you double blind a study with hallucinogens.


Just tell the person they are blind...duh. If the drugs are working, they'll believe it.
 
2012-01-24 11:31:54 AM
 
2012-01-24 11:32:25 AM
Big Pharma won't like this.

"Here, take some Zoloft and try not to kill yourself or deal the 30 other side effects."
 
2012-01-24 11:32:44 AM
Never tried shrooms, but I'd like to. I have no idea where I'd buy any.

I smoke weed for my depression, and it helps, but I'm Canadian so I can pick it up just about anywhere.
 
2012-01-24 11:35:06 AM
Tripyngbalz (by Merck) commercial to be seen during 2016 Super Bowl.
 
2012-01-24 11:35:34 AM

Lemina: I saw a similar study recently from Johns Hopkins that demonstrated similar results.
Link (new window)
As someone who currently has depression, this is relevant to my interests.


I was going to say I thought this was looked into back in the 60s, but come to think of it they were mostly looking into "mind expansion" (wtf that is) back then.

I guess I haven't read up on the ethno-botanical potential of these mushrooms that doesn't involve tripping balls or trying to see auras etc.
 
2012-01-24 11:36:35 AM
BurnShrike

Never tried shrooms, but I'd like to. I have no idea where I'd buy any.

I smoke weed for my depression, and it helps, but I'm Canadian so I can pick it up just about anywhere.



Awwww....so you are naturally depressed then.
 
2012-01-24 11:38:18 AM
Suffix to my above post...

Be advised though that the mushroom tells the truth.

The truth about you told to yourself. You cannot lie to the mushroom. For some people they have that proverbial 'bad trip'...mostly from my experience (seriously....lots of experience) that when you come back down and wake up the next morning. The ego loss/death will force you to confront and examine your life in a way only hallucinogens and perhaps long stretches of solitary confinement could ever do....

For those of you who want a natural non toxic alternative to the pharmacopia of our modern day western medicine...search it out on the Net and study ego loss/death and even read up on, if only for curiosity and amusement the literatures on psilocybins, DMT, LSD, The Stoned Ape Theory, Terrence McKenna, Tinothy Leary, Aldous Huxley etc etc. A lot of it gets mixed into the 'hippie' philosophys and Mother Gaia stuff...but I tell you this with everything I am, it will change you. You will be Neo taking the red pill and you can NEVER look upon your life and the world the same again.

For a + amusement go YouTube Joe Rogan (yeah the UFC host guy, comedian, philosopher) and listen to some of his insight on weed, shrooms, spirituality etc. I would never had thought it myself but you can find some serious insight on life and philosophy inthe strangest places and with the people you may never have expected it with. Kinda like ths POS site...as I am guilty of letting myemotion rage all too often and trolling and flaming becuase I NEVER take this alltoo seriously...even on Fark you can find some profound thought sometimes. Sometimes.

Mostly though I am sure we'll all just stick to our ideologies and extremism.

Gonna go smoke weed and have a little mushroom tea this morning I think...
 
2012-01-24 11:38:30 AM
Mushrooms and LSD definitely helped a ton with my anxiety and depression. Don't know where I'd be now if I hadn't had those transformative experiences.

BurnShrike: Never tried shrooms, but I'd like to. I have no idea where I'd buy any.

I smoke weed for my depression, and it helps, but I'm Canadian so I can pick it up just about anywhere.


When in doubt, go to nearest college campus, look for streetkids and/or guys wearing tie-dye shirts/ponchos/dreadlocks, ask them about it.
 
2012-01-24 11:38:46 AM
I hear its amazing when the famous purple stuffed worm in flap-jaw space with the tuning fork does a raw blink on Hari Kiri Rock. I need scissors! 61!
 
2012-01-24 11:39:42 AM
If in Canada, one can buy a 'shroom kit at a head shop that is nearly ready-to-go. London, Ont., has a nice head-shop or two, IIRC.

//One used to have
//penis envy
 
2012-01-24 11:41:27 AM
cf1.imgobject.com
 
2012-01-24 11:41:27 AM
I tried 'shrooms once, around the age of 20 or so. I didn't hallucinate, but instead experienced a heightening of the senses. Colors were brighter, sounds were richer, touch was...I don't know. I can't describe it in words. It was pretty cool. I'd take psylocibin any day over the crap that's being prescribed now.
 
2012-01-24 11:41:53 AM

signaljammer: If in Canada, one can buy a 'shroom kit at a head shop that is nearly ready-to-go. London, Ont., has a nice head-shop or two, IIRC.

//One used to have
//penis envy


Heh, how'd you know where I live? Do I have my very own Fark stalker?

London does have a couple good head shops, btw
 
2012-01-24 11:42:41 AM

signaljammer: If in Canada, one can buy a 'shroom kit at a head shop that is nearly ready-to-go. London, Ont., has a nice head-shop or two, IIRC.

//One used to have
//penis envy


It is incredibly hard to grow a sufficient amount of mushrooms from a spore kit, if any at all. You need a sterile environment, optimum humidity, a perfect substrate, etc.
 
2012-01-24 11:43:21 AM

Hugemeister: For a + amusement go YouTube Joe Rogan (yeah the UFC host guy, comedian, philosopher) and listen to some of his insight on weed, shrooms, spirituality etc


Or just listen to his podcast. I'd be worried about side effects after listening to his podcasts, he never seems to remember that he's tread the same ground just two days prior.

That and I like the lie I tell myself.
 
2012-01-24 11:44:42 AM
Ive experienced the opposite effect completely. Shrooms take you deep into your mind, a good dose can seal you off from the world for 6 hours up there. I have taken shrooms before and after I first experienced depression as a teen, and can say with 100% certainty tripping without depression is waay better. One of the first things a responsible drug user will tell you before you delve into hallucinogens, is to trip in a good mind frame. These drugs will intensify your mind state, and if the mind state isnt a good one, the trip can be unpleasant. Nothing like intensely dwelling on your life failures and perceived inadequacies and malfunctions, and just wanting it all to end for 5-6 hours.

I want to shroom again like I used to as a youngster, before all the worries and such shrooming was more about laughing about nothing in a secluded location making fantastical declarations about the universe with a bunch of fried buddies. Ive refrained when theyve come around the past 5 or 6 years because of it, even a light shroom trip wouldnt be the same.

/Another general rule about tripping
//designate a trip sitter when high dosages are involved
 
2012-01-24 11:45:35 AM
You don't really hallucinate on 'shroom or LSD, everything is just much more intense.
 
2012-01-24 11:46:32 AM
double blind = both the tester of the 'shrooms and the dude passing around the bag have not been told which shroom is the real deal or just a cow turd.
 
2012-01-24 11:48:06 AM

moops: signaljammer: If in Canada, one can buy a 'shroom kit at a head shop that is nearly ready-to-go. London, Ont., has a nice head-shop or two, IIRC.

//One used to have
//penis envy

It is incredibly hard to grow a sufficient amount of mushrooms from a spore kit, if any at all. You need a sterile environment, optimum humidity, a perfect substrate, etc.


It's not really that hard at all... just requires patience and a willingness to rub every single surface down with alcohol. Get your spores with the injectors from here Link (new window)

And then watch PF Teks "Let's grow musthrooms" on youtube.
 
2012-01-24 11:50:04 AM

meat0918: wildcardjack: Where do I sign up for clinical testing? Oh, and how do you double blind a study with hallucinogens.

Sugar pill.

I bet someone still has a trip.


I'll take your offer, and raise it, "someone taking placebo still has a trip, an actual trip, and not some made-up 'DUDE I TRIPPED BALLS' story".

/the brain is always ready to say, "fark this reality bullshiat"
 
2012-01-24 11:50:11 AM
Psychedelics show promise for a wide variety of applications, but they will never become popular in therapy for one reason: They are too cheap. In addition to this, they cannot be patented, so there is no exclusive market.

\\\ Sad.
 
2012-01-24 11:52:01 AM

BurnShrike: Never tried shrooms, but I'd like to. I have no idea where I'd buy any.

I smoke weed for my depression, and it helps, but I'm Canadian so I can pick it up just about anywhere.



Grow your own. Kits are available online for about $150 and are stupid easy to use. Pretty much guaranteed results.

Fun fact: Psilocybin mushroomspores are 100% legal to buy/possess/have mailed to you, as they do not contain any actual Psilocybin. It's only after the spores germinate into Mycelium and fruiting bodies (AKA Mushrooms) that they contain any illegal substances.
 
2012-01-24 11:52:12 AM

moops: signaljammer: If in Canada, one can buy a 'shroom kit at a head shop that is nearly ready-to-go. London, Ont., has a nice head-shop or two, IIRC.

//One used to have
//penis envy

It is incredibly hard to grow a sufficient amount of mushrooms from a spore kit, if any at all. You need a sterile environment, optimum humidity, a perfect substrate, etc.


This statement is a complete falacy. I've seen it done with a fish aquarium stashed in a closest and more were produced than the grower would ever need for themself.
 
2012-01-24 11:55:01 AM
oh, yeah (chews donut w/mouth open) the CIA was doing this in the 50's... with children at extremely high doses... funny how things come around full circle, huh?
 
2012-01-24 11:55:26 AM
Today I learned... that it is legal in almost every state to order mm spores.
 
2012-01-24 11:56:33 AM

StrangeQ: moops: signaljammer: If in Canada, one can buy a 'shroom kit at a head shop that is nearly ready-to-go. London, Ont., has a nice head-shop or two, IIRC.

//One used to have
//penis envy

It is incredibly hard to grow a sufficient amount of mushrooms from a spore kit, if any at all. You need a sterile environment, optimum humidity, a perfect substrate, etc.

This statement is a complete falacy. I've seen it done with a fish aquarium stashed in a closest and more were produced than the grower would ever need for themself.


Exactly. They grow on cow shiat for crying out loud.
 
2012-01-24 11:57:30 AM

moops: signaljammer: If in Canada, one can buy a 'shroom kit at a head shop that is nearly ready-to-go. London, Ont., has a nice head-shop or two, IIRC.

//One used to have
//penis envy

It is incredibly hard to grow a sufficient amount of mushrooms from a spore kit, if any at all. You need a sterile environment, optimum humidity, a perfect substrate, etc.




Been a while since you tried, eh?

There are kits nowadays that are self contained and are easy to get good results from. Comes with everything in sealed, sterile bags, and you don't even open them to get the thing started. You will get one good crop from the kits, but if you want to continue you need to get your operation wired tight. Still, you'll get a few ounces out of a kit.
 
2012-01-24 12:00:36 PM

elffster: purple monkey dishwasher...


*shakes fists with double rainbowesqe fists*

/what does it mean
 
2012-01-24 12:04:33 PM
In my experience there are some people who are going to be *deliriously* happy and giggly every time they trip, and that's going to rub off on their fellow tripsters.

Even the babysitter, which was always me.

/ does not trip, would not be deliriously happy tripping.
 
2012-01-24 12:04:47 PM

signaljammer: Ain't no such thing as a 'bad' trip, some are just of a more insightful nature than others.


There were a few hours the night of the Y2K flip that I would call a bad trip. It all got better once I escaped the livingroom of drunks and shag carpet for rocks and trees...

/Eating a few while backpacking is like being a Smurf
 
2012-01-24 12:07:17 PM

Jake Havechek: StrangeQ: moops: signaljammer: If in Canada, one can buy a 'shroom kit at a head shop that is nearly ready-to-go. London, Ont., has a nice head-shop or two, IIRC.

//One used to have
//penis envy

It is incredibly hard to grow a sufficient amount of mushrooms from a spore kit, if any at all. You need a sterile environment, optimum humidity, a perfect substrate, etc.

This statement is a complete falacy. I've seen it done with a fish aquarium stashed in a closest and more were produced than the grower would ever need for themself.

Exactly. They grow on cow shiat for crying out loud.


Psilocybin cultivation is NOT that difficucult. There are many websites dedicated to the art. Shroomery and Mycotopia being premier sources of information. I myself have a 4th degree black belt in cannabis horticulture and about a purple belt in psilocybin cultivation. Took me about a year to perfect my techniques but I have yielded several crops of shrooms in the comfort of my own home off/on for years.

Yeah psilocybins have a predisposition for cow dung. One of the fundamental reasons I have learned that Hindus worship cows...the sacred mushroom comes from their manures...

signaljammer: Mushrooms need their own numerical designation, like cannabis. I'm no authority, but I hear that cubies like around 85 F and 85% humidity.


For mycelial growth...pinning and fruiting typically require lower temp range (70-74 F) and higher hunidity (95-100%)

Jake Havechek: You don't really hallucinate on 'shroom or LSD, everything is just much more intense.


Break the 7g+ barrier (dry weight) and you will. Promise.

Balder333: Today I learned... that it is legal in almost every state to order mm spores.


Spores and mycelium cultures legal in all 50 except California, Georgia and Idaho. A twisted mix of anti drug law and agricultural protections.
 
2012-01-24 12:13:36 PM
Farkin hostile, Ive been told crumbling up your cakes in a spot in your backyard as they near completion is an easy way to perpetuate mushroom growth and is near free, at most you might have to go buy some cheap substrate to throw down, though Im pretty sure you didnt even need that. A spot that isnt sunny all day, maybe with a nearby source of light moisture .
 
2012-01-24 12:14:43 PM
Wow, Shroomery.org and Fark.com have collided and I love it.

I went through some nastiness abroad and came down with a case of the ole' PTSD, and psychotherapy has been great, but nothing has helped me heal like the Penis Envy smoothie I drank on New Years.

Mushrooms should not be treated the same as things like coke or heron.
 
2012-01-24 12:15:54 PM
I have never experienced mushrooms myself but from what I have heard from other people and seen in people influenced by shrooms, the effect seems to enhance detail for the ordinary person. That is, they notice everything they normally ignore and experience it in different ways. I think for me that would be an extremely bad thing because I already see way more than a normal person. Enhancing that would just add fuel to a fire that already eats away at my brain (all this detail flying at me all the time causes a lot of anxiety).
 
2012-01-24 12:17:07 PM
Cake completion, not mushroom completion, in that last post.

Ever heard of crumbling spent cakes in the backyard for easy outdoor propagation, Hugemeister?
 
2012-01-24 12:19:14 PM
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Mushrooms make you super!
 
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