Finders Keepers?

Sounds like people need to slow the fark down on that stretch of road. Hydroplaned OFF the interstate? Were you doing 90 on bald tires?

Dead for Tax Reasons: Saturday, a vehicle apparently hydroplaned off the interstate, ran through a barbed wire fence, and then struck an unoccupied pop-up camper

Last time I checked, guide rails work better than barbed wire

The barbed wire is to keep rednecks from going onto the highway on foot to retrieve roadkill dinner.

That article includes an excellent photo. It helped me to vividly imagine the crash.

Install some of these (new window).

Honest Bender: Install some of these (new window).

Those are what Disney uses to block access to the internal-use-only roads at their parks. That and a lot of prison-like fencing. You *seriously* don't want to fark with Mickey Mouse.

FreakinB: Ah, 81. The trucker's alternative to 95.

It is "scenic", I'll give it that. Otherwise, it is a frustrating freeway to drive on when a handful of times per hour, you get roadblocked by one truck passing another at the speed limit.

FreakinB: Ah, 81. The trucker's alternative to 95.

Wow do I remember that road! It's fine, her insurance company is just going to charge her at fault (because single car accident) The Government is just going to enjoy the money they saved by not putting up the guard rail by treating themselves out & making their wallets fatter . . .

/the reason I remember it was from a scalehouse pulling me in just as it decided to change the sign to open, & then red light my prepass, then the cop gave me an odd look as to why I pulled in . . . because I was running a Large company truck, I ended up being 2 hours late for my drop, sadly the customer service could've told them I'd be 2 hrs late & got my load in, instead I did on my own, they took it, then the rest of my drops on the same load was early . . .

On Saturday, a vehicle apparently hydroplaned off the interstate, ran through a barbed wire fence, and then struck an unoccupied pop-up camper parked next to a Shipley Ferry Road barn.

The fact that 48-year-old driver Deborah Harris-Fields of Fairview, N.C. is a shiat driver who either drives way too fast in the rain or doesn't pay attention to the road doesn't mean the road is flawed. I'll need to know what caused the other crashes because all this suggests is that one recent driver on that stretch is probably a moron who shouldn't have a driver's license.

I like how meeting minimum safety standards is considered sufficient in the face of actual evidence of a safety problem.

Honest Bender: Install some of these (new window).

The Russians use pop-up barriers like those at their railroad crossings, in addition to the lights and gates. We ought to start doing that here.

Pissy Trucker: Wow do I remember that road! It's fine, her insurance company is just going to charge her at fault (because single car accident) The Government is just going to enjoy the money they saved by not putting up the guard rail by treating themselves out & making their wallets fatter . . .

If you're really a trucker, maybe you could explain to me why so many truckers do exactly what Killer Cars said. Because I drive I-81 farther north from time to time and it's always amazing to me that I'm repeatedly prevented from using the passing lane for its intended purpose because some imbecile in a big rig has decided to plant himself right next to another rig and create a rolling roadblock for miles.

You ought to go to prison for pulling that shiat....

Jack Black 62: The homeowners should put up a fence of solid steel columns. But the government will not allow that, you cannot protect your own property.

You can't set booby traps. You CAN put barriers up to protect yourself/property. There was a court case about this - after getting hit twice, the owner of a house at a T intersection, with the section pointing to his house being a downhill, put in some boulders to stop people from hitting his house.

That's what happens when you have to get away from Tennessee nazis.

I81...I farking hate that road. I get the joy of driving it a couple times a year when I go from Maryland to Tennessee and every. farking. time. there is a delay of some sort. Whether it is road work or some idiot that drove off the road, if you're traveling from the I-64 interchange to Knoxville, you WILL end up riding your brakes for an hour at some point along the way.

/also, you're in Virginia, home of the speed ticket Gestapo

Sounds like a motorist licensing standards problem.

Jack Black 62: Fubegra: Honest Bender: Install some of these (new window).

The Russians use pop-up barriers like those at their railroad crossings, in addition to the lights and gates. We ought to start doing that here.

Why? Let natural selection work. The train is a great tool for that.

The trains don't always stay on the tracks after the impact however, and the vehicle's passengers don't get a say in the matter either. 'Twoud be nice if there was a way to ensure only the driver dies from his stupidity, but such is not the case. The barriers at least mean the only ones at danger are the occupants of the car, not the train, and less danger than getting crunched underneath the train.

Killer Cars: It is "scenic", I'll give it that. Otherwise, it is a frustrating freeway to drive on when a handful of times per hour, you get roadblocked by one truck passing another at the speed limit.

Remember, it's a hard maximum, not a suggested minimum.

Splinshints: Pissy Trucker: Wow do I remember that road! It's fine, her insurance company is just going to charge her at fault (because single car accident) The Government is just going to enjoy the money they saved by not putting up the guard rail by treating themselves out & making their wallets fatter . . .

If you're really a trucker, maybe you could explain to me why so many truckers do exactly what Killer Cars said. Because I drive I-81 farther north from time to time and it's always amazing to me that I'm repeatedly prevented from using the passing lane for its intended purpose because some imbecile in a big rig has decided to plant himself right next to another rig and create a rolling roadblock for miles.

You ought to go to prison for pulling that shiat....

to be honest, it's the same as (it has happned to me EVERYWHERE) sometime someone just jams the brakes in from of you, or just decided to go slower than you then speed up, "some imbecile in a big rig" is usually the one in the slow lane who just jammed his brakes, then when another one goes to pass, he decides to have as my brother explains best "restrictor plate racing" considering (esp on I-81) if we're caught doing 5 over we're pulled & given a ticket, & occasionally you get some local drivers that know when & where they can drive faster than that (hence when you see them flying by) so to be honest, if you truly are annoyed to that, why get mad at the truckers for doing what we can to make another dime to pay our bills, thanks to the laws that's not going to be very possible now. So, just remember next time you see that & you get mad, let me know where you work, so I can come in & yell at you for the stupid minor things you do! Also, by all means all the truckers want is to beable to drive at the same speed as cars, but no one that wants anything they order online, or buy at the stores, or anything you need (including your farking car & gas) any faster or safer, or concerned to whom gets it there . . . just remember that when you're at work & you don't have 20 truckers (or more) coming in just to yell you! Instead of complaining to truckers for going so slow, complain to the lawmakers for restricting truckers so much on speed & work time . . . that'll clear that "rolling roadblock" up quite a bit!

Jack Black 62: Maktaka: Jack Black 62: Fubegra: Honest Bender: Install some of these (new window).

The Russians use pop-up barriers like those at their railroad crossings, in addition to the lights and gates. We ought to start doing that here.

Why? Let natural selection work. The train is a great tool for that.

The trains don't always stay on the tracks after the impact however, and the vehicle's passengers don't get a say in the matter either. 'Twoud be nice if there was a way to ensure only the driver dies from his stupidity, but such is not the case. The barriers at least mean the only ones at danger are the occupants of the car, not the train, and less danger than getting crunched underneath the train.

They should not get into a vehicle with a stupid driver.

the only downside to that are children, they don't get a choice to that matter . . .

Ah tn driving.

And on one back road, tn car mechanical issues.

Friend's brakes blew as he took a corner. Instead of slowing down, he took off down an embankment, through different trees while screaming. Each one was one someone died on in a car wreck (some home owner pointed out the scrapes and occasional wrap-around scars). Then his car flew off the end, a ledge, and landed flat in someone's backyard, several feet down. (forgot how many)

Car: totaled

Him: shocked, but uninjured

House owner: Offered him a beer while asking "Yeh ahwight?"

Baloo Uriza: Killer Cars: It is "scenic", I'll give it that. Otherwise, it is a frustrating freeway to drive on when a handful of times per hour, you get roadblocked by one truck passing another at the speed limit.

Remember, it's a hard maximum, not a suggested minimum.

Yes I'm sure it's quite difficult for you. For most people, however, it's a number rounded to the nearest 5 or 10.

nytmare: Baloo Uriza: Killer Cars: It is "scenic", I'll give it that. Otherwise, it is a frustrating freeway to drive on when a handful of times per hour, you get roadblocked by one truck passing another at the speed limit.

Remember, it's a hard maximum, not a suggested minimum.

Yes I'm sure it's quite difficult for you. For most people, however, it's a number rounded to the nearest 5 or 10.

Says the world according to your speedometer, which is always infallible and isn't a few percentage points out of kilter.

Honest Bender: Install some of these (new window).


Holy shiat!!!

If you live in eastern Tennessee, this is the least of your problems.

StrangeQ: I81...I farking hate that road. I get the joy of driving it a couple times a year when I go from Maryland to Tennessee and every. farking. time. there is a delay of some sort. Whether it is road work or some idiot that drove off the road, if you're traveling from the I-64 interchange to Knoxville, you WILL end up riding your brakes for an hour at some point along the way.

/also, you're in Virginia, home of the speed ticket Gestapo

You also only go through two goddamn cities on that stretch, and only Roanoke has any traffic to speak of.

Jack Black 62: Pissy Trucker: Jack Black 62: Maktaka: Jack Black 62: Fubegra: Honest Bender: Install some of these (new window).

The Russians use pop-up barriers like those at their railroad crossings, in addition to the lights and gates. We ought to start doing that here.

Why? Let natural selection work. The train is a great tool for that.

The trains don't always stay on the tracks after the impact however, and the vehicle's passengers don't get a say in the matter either. 'Twoud be nice if there was a way to ensure only the driver dies from his stupidity, but such is not the case. The barriers at least mean the only ones at danger are the occupants of the car, not the train, and less danger than getting crunched underneath the train.

They should not get into a vehicle with a stupid driver.

the only downside to that are children, they don't get a choice to that matter . . .

Yeah, but they did spawn from stupid people, so more than likely they have a low IQ level as well.

well, Isaac Newton, Albert Einstein, Benjamin Franklin, & all the other inteventors & scientists were bred from geniuses right? That's why they were the ones who made their own discoveries, not their parents. Not all kids turn out to be their parents, if you hold to that logic, you won't beable to mount to much in life . . .

Jack Black 62: They should not get into a vehicle with a stupid driver

Ah yes, the free market solution. Where the Perfect Information Wizard has come to play.

penguin31: Honest Bender: Install some of these (new window).

Those are what Disney uses to block access to the internal-use-only roads at their parks. That and a lot of prison-like fencing. You *seriously* don't want to fark with Mickey Mouse.

It's called Mousewicz for a reason.

If it lands in my yard, it's now my property.

And out-of-staters are good eatin'.

Honest Bender: Install some of these (new window).

If you rapidly press 2 on the keyboard while playing this video, you can repeat the excitement ad nauseum.

I'm wondering what the clear zone distance is in that area. Interstates should have at least 30' of clear distance (the distance between the edge of the travel lane and any unprotected obstruction), and if there's a service road parallel to the interstate then it needs its own clear zone too (but smaller). Most of the time I've seen double faced guardrail placed between an interstate and a service road rather than the standard controlled access fence (the barbed wire fence mentioned in TFA).

It does sound like there's been some driver problems there involving hydroplaning though; wonder if they've checked to see if the water's draining off quickly enough there? Sometimes after a resurfacing project the cross slope of the road gets flattened to the point the water doesn't drain off of it fast enough.

/highway design engineer
//not in TN

Splinshints: Pissy Trucker: Wow do I remember that road! It's fine, her insurance company is just going to charge her at fault (because single car accident) The Government is just going to enjoy the money they saved by not putting up the guard rail by treating themselves out & making their wallets fatter . . .

If you're really a trucker, maybe you could explain to me why so many truckers do exactly what Killer Cars said. Because I drive I-81 farther north from time to time and it's always amazing to me that I'm repeatedly prevented from using the passing lane for its intended purpose because some imbecile in a big rig has decided to plant himself right next to another rig and create a rolling roadblock for miles.

You want to see something real annoying try MI highways. 70mph for cars, 60mph for trucks. Catching this going 80 is a pain. I also noticed sometimes trucks that can't even run 60 due to set up or incline. MI has real high allowance for weight and some trucks just can't hold 60 on incline when fully loaded or the engine governor won't let the driver get the rpm's he needs to maintain. The truck passing usually doesn't want to fall below his speed limit because another driver can't keep up. Same reason we pass.

Bendal: I'm wondering what the clear zone distance is in that area. Interstates should have at least 30' of clear distance (the distance between the edge of the travel lane and any unprotected obstruction), and if there's a service road parallel to the interstate then it needs its own clear zone too (but smaller). Most of the time I've seen double faced guardrail placed between an interstate and a service road rather than the standard controlled access fence (the barbed wire fence mentioned in TFA).

It does sound like there's been some driver problems there involving hydroplaning though; wonder if they've checked to see if the water's draining off quickly enough there? Sometimes after a resurfacing project the cross slope of the road gets flattened to the point the water doesn't drain off of it fast enough.

/highway design engineer
//not in TN

Sounds like a job for 3-strand guard cable out at the edge of the CZ...

/also a road-geek

Firethorn: Jack Black 62: The homeowners should put up a fence of solid steel columns. But the government will not allow that, you cannot protect your own property.

You can't set booby traps. You CAN put barriers up to protect yourself/property. There was a court case about this - after getting hit twice, the owner of a house at a T intersection, with the section pointing to his house being a downhill, put in some boulders to stop people from hitting his house.

No, no, no, wrong! You must look at this from a legal POV. You do not 'install large boulders to keep people from hitting your house'. That is a liability issue and an invitation to get sued. Instead, you 'install large decorative rocks as part of your landscaping design'. If they also happen to stop a vehicle from landing in bed with you then that's nice too, but their main 'purpose' should be 'too look nice in the yard'.

/sometimes it's WHY you did something that gets you in trouble rather that WHAT you did

DigitalCoffee: Firethorn: Jack Black 62: The homeowners should put up a fence of solid steel columns. But the government will not allow that, you cannot protect your own property.

You can't set booby traps. You CAN put barriers up to protect yourself/property. There was a court case about this - after getting hit twice, the owner of a house at a T intersection, with the section pointing to his house being a downhill, put in some boulders to stop people from hitting his house.

No, no, no, wrong! You must look at this from a legal POV. You do not 'install large boulders to keep people from hitting your house'. That is a liability issue and an invitation to get sued. Instead, you 'install large decorative rocks as part of your landscaping design'. If they also happen to stop a vehicle from landing in bed with you then that's nice too, but their main 'purpose' should be 'too look nice in the yard'.

/sometimes it's WHY you did something that gets you in trouble rather that WHAT you did

That's the most asinine legal advice I've heard of . . . because to be honest, lately alot of people have including warehouses . . . it's especially for keeping truckers from hitting things or even just tearing up their land, in fact one part of a small town here, someone put up a little chain fence you can easily step over, just to keep the church crowd from parking on their lawn. It's more than legal under the 6th Amendment, so if you sue over damaging your own vehicle on someone's property & you have no right to be there, or you're there for business only purposes, better reach in your pocket & hope they're nice because to be honest, if you scrape paint on that rock, you can be put in jail & sued! granted the jail time is about 30 days, & the lawsuite is about $1,500, but after also paying for your own vehicle & all of that you might not consider much to doing it twice . . . so, go hit a "Barrier Rock" & try to sue I wanna watch that court case! :D

Wretched: Bendal: I'm wondering what the clear zone distance is in that area. Interstates should have at least 30' of clear distance (the distance between the edge of the travel lane and any unprotected obstruction), and if there's a service road parallel to the interstate then it needs its own clear zone too (but smaller). Most of the time I've seen double faced guardrail placed between an interstate and a service road rather than the standard controlled access fence (the barbed wire fence mentioned in TFA).

It does sound like there's been some driver problems there involving hydroplaning though; wonder if they've checked to see if the water's draining off quickly enough there? Sometimes after a resurfacing project the cross slope of the road gets flattened to the point the water doesn't drain off of it fast enough.

/highway design engineer
//not in TN

Sounds like a job for 3-strand guard cable out at the edge of the CZ...

/also a road-geek

Well, for starters I need to state that I live in the area this story is based in,
transplanted from city life (grew up in Atlanta, lived 20 years in the DC area after that) in 1995.
I drive I-81 from Wytheville to Knoxville many, many times per year.
I also drove I-95 in VA for those 20 years.

Therefore, I am actually getting a kick out of these replies. I know both highways very well. If you wanna sit, I-95 is your friend.
If you wanna actually get somewhere, I-81 has I-95 covered 5 ways from Sunday.

Now, to the two quoted posts:
1. I realize the pic in the article is useless, so I'll just attest that in the area in question, the neighborhoods next to the highway are waaaay back off the road; that's one big difference between highways in this part of TN (and SW VA, for that matter) versus highways in cities/suburbia I've lived in - the interstates sit in VERY wide ROW's.
Further, that stretch of highway is regularly re-surfaced, as it deteriorates from salt usage pretty often - it's a heavily travelled part, close to the intersection of I-26, a north-south connector between VA and NC.

2. Those three-cable whatyamacallit imitation guardrails have become really popular in the local interstates, maybe because of cost?
Regardless, they are constantly in disrepair around here, dangling down and damaged.
To boot, they're actually uglier than regular old guard rails.
Finally, we've actually had a couple of deaths of highway repair folks putting these back together - some idjit leaves the roadway and plows into them as they work.

I've driven in the area of 40k miles a year most of my adult life (30+ years now - I'm in the fire inspection business).
I'll take this area versus most any other I've ever lived in for driving.

/engage phony hick accent
'Round here, you best be moving or you best be gettin' out of the left lane.
We ain't playing.
We got some place to be.
/phony hick accent off

In case anyone else didn't guess, this whole story became a story because some well-connected political types happen to live where this is going on.
Go figure.
Nothing new under the sun.

Tennessee and highways?

Splinshints: Pissy Trucker: Wow do I remember that road! It's fine, her insurance company is just going to charge her at fault (because single car accident) The Government is just going to enjoy the money they saved by not putting up the guard rail by treating themselves out & making their wallets fatter . . .

If you're really a trucker, maybe you could explain to me why so many truckers do exactly what Killer Cars said. Because I drive I-81 farther north from time to time and it's always amazing to me that I'm repeatedly prevented from using the passing lane for its intended purpose because some imbecile in a big rig has decided to plant himself right next to another rig and create a rolling roadblock for miles.

You ought to go to prison for pulling that shiat....

Happens on I-65 between Chicago and Indy too. Semis are 55, other cars 65. You'll have three semis in a row perfectly happy doing 55 in the right lane and some other asshole trucker will decide he needs to do 55.1 and get into the left lane and slooooooooooowly pass the convoy on the right, meanwhile there are about 15-20 cars stacked up behind him that all had to suddenly drop 10 MPH off their speeds in a hurry...
And I don't buy the RPM maintenance excuse in that case - that part of Indiana is flat as a pancake. You're all going to see each other at the same truck stop on the outskirts of Lebanon anyway so why not just get in line, set the cruise control, and enjoy the scenery?

Being from Kingsport I can safely say that section of interstate is just cursed or something... I've never had any issue driving through there, but before they installed the cable barriers people would just crash head on into one another...and I'm usually driving 80 - 85 through there unless the weather is bad.

DigitalCoffee: Firethorn: Jack Black 62: The homeowners should put up a fence of solid steel columns. But the government will not allow that, you cannot protect your own property.

You can't set booby traps. You CAN put barriers up to protect yourself/property. There was a court case about this - after getting hit twice, the owner of a house at a T intersection, with the section pointing to his house being a downhill, put in some boulders to stop people from hitting his house.

No, no, no, wrong! You must look at this from a legal POV. You do not 'install large boulders to keep people from hitting your house'. That is a liability issue and an invitation to get sued. Instead, you 'install large decorative rocks as part of your landscaping design'. If they also happen to stop a vehicle from landing in bed with you then that's nice too, but their main 'purpose' should be 'too look nice in the yard'.

/sometimes it's WHY you did something that gets you in trouble rather that WHAT you did

Attractive Nuisance and Booby Trap laws look askance at your "legal" advice.

moparedtn: Wretched: Bendal: I'm wondering what the clear zone distance is in that area. Interstates should have at least 30' of clear distance (the distance between the edge of the travel lane and any unprotected obstruction), and if there's a service road parallel to the interstate then it needs its own clear zone too (but smaller). Most of the time I've seen double faced guardrail placed between an interstate and a service road rather than the standard controlled access fence (the barbed wire fence mentioned in TFA).

It does sound like there's been some driver problems there involving hydroplaning though; wonder if they've checked to see if the water's draining off quickly enough there? Sometimes after a resurfacing project the cross slope of the road gets flattened to the point the water doesn't drain off of it fast enough.

/highway design engineer
//not in TN

Sounds like a job for 3-strand guard cable out at the edge of the CZ...

/also a road-geek

Well, for starters I need to state that I live in the area this story is based in,
transplanted from city life (grew up in Atlanta, lived 20 years in the DC area after that) in 1995.
I drive I-81 from Wytheville to Knoxville many, many times per year.
I also drove I-95 in VA for those 20 years.

Therefore, I am actually getting a kick out of these replies. I know both highways very well. If you wanna sit, I-95 is your friend.
If you wanna actually get somewhere, I-81 has I-95 covered 5 ways from Sunday.

Now, to the two quoted posts:
1. I realize the pic in the article is useless, so I'll just attest that in the area in question, the neighborhoods next to the highway are waaaay back off the road; that's one big difference between highways in this part of TN (and SW VA, for that matter) versus highways in cities/suburbia I've lived in - the interstates sit in VERY wide ROW's.
Further, that stretch of highway is regularly re-surfaced, as it deteriorates from salt usage pretty often - it's a heavily travelled part, close to th ...

Thank you for the Southern Accent, you made a good point, & got me to laugh a bit . . .

taliesinwi: Splinshints: Pissy Trucker: Wow do I remember that road! It's fine, her insurance company is just going to charge her at fault (because single car accident) The Government is just going to enjoy the money they saved by not putting up the guard rail by treating themselves out & making their wallets fatter . . .

If you're really a trucker, maybe you could explain to me why so many truckers do exactly what Killer Cars said. Because I drive I-81 farther north from time to time and it's always amazing to me that I'm repeatedly prevented from using the passing lane for its intended purpose because some imbecile in a big rig has decided to plant himself right next to another rig and create a rolling roadblock for miles.

You ought to go to prison for pulling that shiat....

Happens on I-65 between Chicago and Indy too. Semis are 55, other cars 65. You'll have three semis in a row perfectly happy doing 55 in the right lane and some other asshole trucker will decide he needs to do 55.1 and get into the left lane and slooooooooooowly pass the convoy on the right, meanwhile there are about 15-20 cars stacked up behind him that all had to suddenly drop 10 MPH off their speeds in a hurry...
And I don't buy the RPM maintenance excuse in that case - that part of Indiana is flat as a pancake. You're all going to see each other at the same truck stop on the outskirts of Lebanon anyway so why not just get in line, set the cruise control, and enjoy the scenery?

why don't you? wouldn't you just want to enjoy the senery? That area is entirely Farked up! I love the fact that one of the Idiots from there FINALLY complained of my driving (I'm one of the slow passers) you have no clue about RPMs or governors on trucks! I wonder if you're one of the following:
1: the one that flies 95-120 in the right lane that's about to end or just ended to cut off truckers & then Slam on the brakes to slow down to 51
2: the one that rides beside the Trucks in the right lane mainly beside the rear truck tires, where the driver cannot see you, cannot get over to unblock other traffic, & completely disregarding the fact that cars are maneuverable & trucks aren't!
3: cut between trucks with no visibility between the vehicles
4: sit there riding the back bumper of Trucks just to end up complaining that all Trucks should be off the roads, then go online ordering stuff
5: masterbate at 11 pm to 6 am (which the stupid light show us WAY too well of what you're doing)
6: Flash your brights just as you get out from behind the Truck & hitting the horn, then realising you're the jerk because you had to cut him off due to traffic jam in the area
7: come to a complete STOP on the expressway, then punch it laughing at him
8: wait until a Trucker to turn his signal on, then punch it to hold him, so a line follows & he ends up Farked by the drivers that pulls that stupid stunt
9: Feel YOU'RE so more important than ANYONE else on the face of this planet, that you must risk lives, & fly through with only inches between vehicles about 120-140
10: One of the many that decide you're sly in changing lanes every quarter of a mile yet you don't end up gaining any car lenths but you still keep trying & then cuss at Truckers for riding the middle lane
I can keep going on, & that is Just that area . . . That's why 99.99999999999% of Truckers hate that area, the ones that don't; never drove there . . .
I'm tried of your ignorance, but you obvious shown it proudly by not pointing out two things, 1st, hauling 80,000 lbs with a 235 hp motor governed in an area that has 25% grade is something to slow Truckers down. I know it doesn't slow your car down, but you're not hauling stuff people need to survive, to live on. 2nd thing is, I haven't seen a single driver from that area that hasn't done an unsafe, roadblocking, stupid maneuver! So, next time you insult Truck drivers, look at the insurance reports, it's the personal vehicles that cause 89% of the accidents there, gee I wonder why . . . Try complaining to yourself about your own driving . . . before you complain to someone who actually has been through there about as many times as you & hasn't gotten into a single accident . . . in fact companies pretty much see my records for how many times I have & pat me on the back for not running over someone . . .

To be honest, if you live in southern Wiscosin, you're better off getting pilots to ship stuff to you, it might cost extra . . . but, at least they're not gonna get mad at you so quickly.

I would like to harras you about your job, because you must not do anything important, other than just sit & complain about traffic, I wonder if you're one of those base houses in that area that broadcast out to truckers just to harras us? just to block the CB channel so you can show how much of a jerk you are . . . to be honest, I'm tired of the gay conversations there . . . & the cars all driving horribly then blame the backups on Truckers . . . even when a car cause an accident during rush hour . . . but, you're job is much more important than a Truckers job right? since your job depends on Truckers, I wouldn't be suprised if Truckers don't depend on your job . . . of course the Gary, IN strippers have more dignity than you, at least they admit when they do wrong . . . in your eyes you're just perfect & do no wrong . . . so you rather spend your time harrasing others, & waiste their time to explain to you as if you're so important . . . I don't care if you don't like Truckers, just don't complain to me anymore about it!

Pissy Trucker: taliesinwi: Splinshints: Pissy Trucker: Wow do I remember that road! It's fine, her insurance company is just going to charge her at fault (because single car accident) The Government is just going to enjoy the money they saved by not putting up the guard rail by treating themselves out & making their wallets fatter . . .

If you're really a trucker, maybe you could explain to me why so many truckers do exactly what Killer Cars said. Because I drive I-81 farther north from time to time and it's always amazing to me that I'm repeatedly prevented from using the passing lane for its intended purpose because some imbecile in a big rig has decided to plant himself right next to another rig and create a rolling roadblock for miles.

You ought to go to prison for pulling that shiat....

Happens on I-65 between Chicago and Indy too. Semis are 55, other cars 65. You'll have three semis in a row perfectly happy doing 55 in the right lane and some other asshole trucker will decide he needs to do 55.1 and get into the left lane and slooooooooooowly pass the convoy on the right, meanwhile there are about 15-20 cars stacked up behind him that all had to suddenly drop 10 MPH off their speeds in a hurry...
And I don't buy the RPM maintenance excuse in that case - that part of Indiana is flat as a pancake. You're all going to see each other at the same truck stop on the outskirts of Lebanon anyway so why not just get in line, set the cruise control, and enjoy the scenery?

why don't you? wouldn't you just want to enjoy the senery? That area is entirely Farked up! I love the fact that one of the Idiots from there FINALLY complained of my driving (I'm one of the slow passers) you have no clue about RPMs or governors on trucks! I wonder if you're one of the following:

I'm being trolled, but I'll bite because I'm bored.

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I'm none of those things. I'm the guy trying to do the speed limit (or more likely, slightly over it if that's how traffic is moving) in the left lane. You're the guy who can't go over 56 blocking me from doing it by not staying in the slow lane. Doing anything faster than that would be suicidal - yeah I could do 90-120, but I'd be able to do that for about five seconds before hitting the guy in front of me not going that fast.

I can keep going on, & that is Just that area . . . That's why 99.99999999999% of Truckers hate that area, the ones that don't; never drove there . . .

Could have fooled me. For an area that "most truckers avoid" I see a shiatload of trucks. Plus how else do you get to Louisville from Chicago? Go three hours out of your way on I-57 and then cut over on I-64? How would that be better?

I'm tried of your ignorance, but you obvious shown it proudly by not pointing out two things, 1st, hauling 80,000 lbs with a 235 hp motor governed in an area that has 25% grade is something to slow Truckers down. I know it doesn't slow your car down, but you're not hauling stuff people need to survive, to live on. 2nd thing is, I haven't seen a single driver from that area that hasn't done an unsafe, roadblocking, stupid maneuver! So, next time you insult Truck drivers, look at the insurance reports, it's the personal vehicles that cause 89% of the accidents there, gee I wonder why . . . Try complaining to yourself about your own driving . . . before you complain to someone who actually has been through there about as many times as you & hasn't gotten into a single accident . . . in fact companies pretty much see my records for how many times I have & pat me on the back for not running over someone . . .

First off. 20% grade? Are we talking about the same I-65? Indianapolis is a hundred feet higher above sea level than Gary, IN is. That area might not _technically_ be flat but it's a pretty damn shallow slope.
Second, I know you have a governor. I already said I don't care. (And if you're an owner/operator, why the hell do you have a governor if it makes things so difficult for you?) If it prevents you from passing in a timely fashion, DON'T GET IN THE MOTHERfarkING LEFT LANE. The guy in front of you is going 55. When you eventually pass him and get back in the right lane, YOU will be doing 55. So why did you need to pass in the first place? All passing does is change the order within the grouping and make you a rolling roadblock while you're doing it. You're all going the same speed and heading in the same direction, so what's the incentive? Do you want first crack at the prime lot lizards or something?