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(Forbes) Obvious Cut $50 million from Kentucky's education budget, or cut $43 million for theme park based on literal interpretation of Noah's Ark...decisions, decisions. Bonus: Governor complains about not having enough for education   (forbes.com) divider line 489
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The Stealth Hippopotamus [TotalFark]
2012-01-24 10:47:02 AM
More money does not mean better schools. Don't believe me? Look at DC. Highest per student cost in the nation. Does anyone want to argue they have the best schools??
 
imapirate [TotalFark]
2012-01-24 11:01:15 AM
*FACEPALM*

/kentuckian
 
A Terrible Human [TotalFark]
2012-01-24 11:07:06 AM
Dammit Beshear stop being retarded.

/From Ky
 
Speaker2Animals [TotalFark]
2012-01-24 11:19:48 AM
The Stealth Hippopotamus: More money does not mean better schools. Don't believe me? Look at DC. Highest per student cost in the nation. Does anyone want to argue they have the best schools??

In isolation, your statement is correct. But there are many more factors at play, as I'm sure you know -- the most important being family. The reason the cost per pupil is so high in DC is that there are so many dysfunctional families and the high cost results from having to pay for tons of specialized education programs to make up for the lack of an education-friendly environment at home.

But by all means, keep repeating that to yourself as way to rationalize your opposition to increased aid to education. There's no way any of this starving of our childrens' programs will ever come back to bite us in the future.
 
Slives [TotalFark]
2012-01-24 11:33:52 AM
Education funding does not bring in tourist dollars.

Too bad they don't realize they will never see that much in the way of tourist dollars from the Noah's Ark park. They would do a lot better building a dinosaur themed park instead.
 
Mugato [TotalFark]
2012-01-24 11:37:17 AM
The Stealth Hippopotamus: More money does not mean better schools. Don't believe me? Look at DC. Highest per student cost in the nation. Does anyone want to argue they have the best schools??

Are you making some kind of argument?
 
imapirate [TotalFark]
2012-01-24 11:47:36 AM
Slives: Education funding does not bring in tourist dollars.

Too bad they don't realize they will never see that much in the way of tourist dollars from the Noah's Ark park. They would do a lot better building a dinosaur themed park instead.

I've been to the Creation Museum. I went in the evening on a Tuesday, and that place was farking packed. I'd say it was about 70% Mennonite/Amish, but there were a lot of people. And before an hour before closing, museum admission is $25. This thing is a cash cow. That said, theme parks are much larger enterprises, and this is a terrible idea. It's doomed to go under.

Further, people in KY wonder why others see us as backwards morons. Just look at our leadership.
 
Bevets [TotalFark]
2012-01-24 11:50:03 AM
Interestingly enough, this is actually quite an old conflict within the Church. The great Church Father Origen, among others, argued for allegorical interpretations of Genesis. Even back in the 4th century, St. Augustine took his fellow Christians to task for literally interpreting Genesis.

Nothing is to be accepted save on the authority of Scripture, since greater is that authority than all the powers of the human mind. ~ Augustine

Probably, so far as I know, there is no professor of Hebrew or Old Testament at any world-class university who does not believe that the writer(s) of Genesis 1-11 intended to convey to their readers the ideas that (a) creation took place in a series of six days which were the same as the days of 24 hours we now experience; . . . Or, to put it negatively, the apologetic arguments which suppose the "days" of creation to be long eras of time, the figures of years not to be chronological, and the flood to be a merely local Mesopotamian flood, are not taken seriously by any such professors, as far as I know. ~ James Barr Regius Professor of Hebrew at Oxford University in England

Whoever takes another meaning out of Scripture than the writer intended, goes astray, but not through any falsehood in Scripture. ~ Augustine
 
czei
2012-01-24 12:03:00 PM
Screw science. *MY* Jesus rides dinosaurs because its cool:

images.cheezburger.com
 
czei
2012-01-24 12:04:14 PM
A still from the soon to be very popular Palm Sunday parade at the theme park:

www.weakstream.us
 
imapirate [TotalFark]
2012-01-24 12:08:47 PM
Photos from museum exhibits:

Continental shifts
farm8.staticflickr.com

Snake venom
farm8.staticflickr.com
 
The Stealth Hippopotamus [TotalFark]
2012-01-24 12:39:12 PM
Speaker2Animals: In isolation, your statement is correct. But there are many more factors at play, as I'm sure you know -- the most important being family. The reason the cost per pupil is so high in DC is that there are so many dysfunctional families and the high cost results from having to pay for tons of specialized education programs to make up for the lack of an education-friendly environment at home.

Why are you so racist? Why don't just come out and blame it on the black people!

Sorry couldn't help myself.

But really, why do you think that DC has more problems then KY?? That may just be true. I don't know. Could be the same. If KY really does have less problem children then they could use less money with no problems. People have a false equation! They think dollars equal education. That's just not true. Odds are they have plenty of money going to the school system.

Speaker2Animals: But by all means, keep repeating that to yourself as way to rationalize your opposition to increased aid to education. There's no way any of this starving of our childrens' programs will ever come back to bite us in the future.

I would love to increase the level of education.
 
deffuse [TotalFark]
2012-01-24 12:53:18 PM
Holy SHIAT a Bevets sighting. Sound the bells! Stop the presses! We got a crazy-mofo ova heeeeere!
 
A Terrible Human [TotalFark]
2012-01-24 01:07:14 PM
deffuse: Holy SHIAT a Bevets sighting. Sound the bells! Stop the presses! We got a crazy-mofo ova heeeeere!

Meh Bevets is to threads about Christianity as Tats is to threads about Israel.
 
FirstNationalBastard [TotalFark]
2012-01-24 01:07:53 PM
If teh childrun need to learn, Jesus will teach them.
 
deffuse [TotalFark]
2012-01-24 01:09:42 PM
A Terrible Human: deffuse: Holy SHIAT a Bevets sighting. Sound the bells! Stop the presses! We got a crazy-mofo ova heeeeere!

Meh Bevets is to threads about Christianity as Tats is to threads about Israel.

I haven't seen him for ages - perhaps I have just stopped reading religion-wank-fest threads. Until now. Or something.
 
A Terrible Human [TotalFark]
2012-01-24 01:19:14 PM
deffuse: I haven't seen him for ages - perhaps I have just stopped reading religion-wank-fest threads. Until now. Or something.

I must say a Bevets sighting is rarer than a Tats post.
 
baka-san [TotalFark]
2012-01-24 01:21:05 PM
Bevets: ~ Augustine

I can fark and drink and whore all I want as long as I write some stuff later that says it's bad.~ Augustine
 
FirstNationalBastard [TotalFark]
2012-01-24 01:22:37 PM
A Terrible Human: deffuse: I haven't seen him for ages - perhaps I have just stopped reading religion-wank-fest threads. Until now. Or something.

I must say a Bevets sighting is rarer than a Tats post.

If we could only get them to combine like a Voltron and become Bevetsuma, They could be everywhere.
 
SphericalTime [TotalFark]
2012-01-24 01:28:51 PM
Kentucky: Lol, why bother investing in the future of our children? After all, if we do, they won't spend their tourist dollars at the creationist theme parks that we're building.
 
Weaver95 [TotalFark]
2012-01-24 01:29:16 PM
baka-san: Bevets: ~ Augustine

I can fark and drink and whore all I want as long as I write some stuff later that says it's bad.~ Augustine

St. Augustine was the original Republican?
 
deffuse [TotalFark]
2012-01-24 01:46:41 PM
FirstNationalBastard: A Terrible Human: deffuse: I haven't seen him for ages - perhaps I have just stopped reading religion-wank-fest threads. Until now. Or something.

I must say a Bevets sighting is rarer than a Tats post.

If we could only get them to combine like a Voltron and become Bevetsuma, They could be everywhere.

That's either the name of a Japanese dish, or my new band name...
 
thomps [TotalFark]
2012-01-24 02:07:46 PM
imapirate: Slives: Education funding does not bring in tourist dollars.

Too bad they don't realize they will never see that much in the way of tourist dollars from the Noah's Ark park. They would do a lot better building a dinosaur themed park instead.

I've been to the Creation Museum. I went in the evening on a Tuesday, and that place was farking packed. I'd say it was about 70% Mennonite/Amish, but there were a lot of people. And before an hour before closing, museum admission is $25. This thing is a cash cow. That said, theme parks are much larger enterprises, and this is a terrible idea. It's doomed to go under.

Further, people in KY wonder why others see us as backwards morons. Just look at our leadership.

if it's such a cash cow, why does it need to be subsidized by the state government?
 
imapirate [TotalFark]
2012-01-24 02:16:13 PM
thomps: if it's such a cash cow, why does it need to be subsidized by the state government?

Your guess is as good as mine, but speaking from first-hand experience, this thing is pretty well-funded. They might be bullshiat exhibits, but they'nce nice ones and it looks like no expense was spared.

Also, security there is armed. That just kind of stuck with me.
 
give me doughnuts [TotalFark]
2012-01-24 02:17:50 PM
Translation: The K-12 education budget stays the same, and we aren't taxing the tourist attraction for ignorant people very much for the first couple of years.



/would like to rain a little fire and brimstone on the Creation Museum and the new Jesus-Land, or whatever the fark it is called.
 
give me doughnuts [TotalFark]
2012-01-24 02:22:23 PM
thomps: if it's such a cash cow, why does it need to be subsidized by the state government?

Subsidy: 1. A sum of money granted by the government or a public body to assist an industry or business so that the price of a commodity or service...
2. A sum of money granted to support an arts organization or other undertaking held to be in the public interest.

If someone mugs you, and only takes half your cash, does that mean he is subsidizing you?
 
CPennypacker
2012-01-24 02:29:03 PM
Picking winners and losers v 2.0:

Winners: cult based on two thousand year old fiction
Losers: Our children

Sounds good
 
HotWingConspiracy
2012-01-24 02:29:51 PM
Bevets: Nothing is to be accepted save on the authority of Scripture, since greater is that authority than all the powers of the human mind. ~ Augustine

How does that work? Humans wrote it.
 
Rueened
2012-01-24 02:30:09 PM
imapirate: Photos from museum exhibits:

Continental shifts
[farm8.staticflickr.com image 500x375]

Snake venom
[farm8.staticflickr.com image 500x375]

What is this I don't even... wtf...? I mean, what?

[head explodes]
 
spcMike [TotalFark]
2012-01-24 02:31:01 PM
baka-san: I can fark and drink and whore all I want as long as I write some stuff later that says it's bad.~ Augustine

That's the main reason I chose Augustine as my Confirmation saint.
 
GoodyearPimp
2012-01-24 02:31:04 PM
I think this is smart. Less education funding means things like less teachers or less instructional materials, but the schools still have to fill in those hours. So.... field trips to Noah's Park (or whatever the hell it's called)!
 
Leeds
2012-01-24 02:31:40 PM
img401.imageshack.us

// Nuff said
 
SacriliciousBeerSwiller
2012-01-24 02:31:44 PM
give me doughnuts: If someone mugs you, and only takes half your cash, does that mean he is subsidizing you?

Your metaphor only works if everyone agrees that common taxation amounts to muggings...which most sane people don't.

It's a subsidy.
 
thismomentinblackhistory [TotalFark]
2012-01-24 02:34:13 PM
I want to go there so bad.
 
Rent Party
2012-01-24 02:34:43 PM
The Stealth Hippopotamus: More money does not mean better schools. Don't believe me? Look at DC. Highest per student cost in the nation. Does anyone want to argue they have the best schools??

While this is true, less money does correlate with worse schools.

There is a point of diminishing returns at right around $8000 per student. More than that really doesn't buy you anything. Drop below about $6500 a student and you begin to see a drop in student performance.
 
Impasse
2012-01-24 02:34:44 PM
"Pay no attention to that man behind the curtain!" ~ Augustine
 
DrZiffle
2012-01-24 02:34:47 PM
Stop using the word evolution. Only "change over time" is acceptable in Kenfrkky.
 
Gosling
2012-01-24 02:34:48 PM
This is what happens when you become too stupid to solve your own problems.
 
Leeds
2012-01-24 02:36:02 PM
Bevets: Whoever takes another meaning out of Scripture than the writer intended, goes astray, but not through any falsehood in Scripture. ~ Augustine

Interesting quote!

So people who pretend that the story of Noah's Ark is meant to be taken literally instead of accepting it as the allegory it was written to be have "gone astray?"

Do you concede that you, Bevets, have "gone astray" for misunderstanding the bible?
 
wildstarr [TotalFark]
2012-01-24 02:36:07 PM
imapirate: Photos from museum exhibits:

Continental shifts
[farm8.staticflickr.com image 500x375]

Snake venom
[farm8.staticflickr.com image 500x375]

My arms flailed eager to punch anything within reach after reading that hot mess.
 
skullkrusher
2012-01-24 02:36:15 PM
The animals went in two by two, hurrah! hurrah!
The animals went in two by two, hurrah! hurrah!
The animals went in two by two, the elephant and the kangaroo
And they all went into the ark, for to get out of the rain.

The animals went in three by three, hurrah! hurrah!
The animals went in three by three, hurrah! hurrah!
The animals went in three by three, the wasp, the ant and the bumble bee
And they all went into the ark, for to get out of the rain.

The animals went in four by four, hurrah! hurrah!
The animals went in four by four, hurrah! hurrah!
The animals went in four by four, the great hippopotamus stuck in the door
And they all went into the ark, for to get out of the rain.

The animals went in five by five, hurrah! hurrah!
The animals went in five by five, hurrah! hurrah!
The animals went in five by five, they warmed each other to keep alive
And they all went into the ark, for to get out of the rain.

The animals went in six by six, hurrah! hurrah!
The animals went in six by six, hurrah! hurrah!
The animals went in six by six, they turned out the monkey because of his tricks
And they all went into the ark, for to get out of the rain.

The animals went in seven by seven, hurrah! hurrah!
The animals went in seven by seven, hurrah! hurrah!
The animals went in seven by seven, the little pig thought he was going to heaven
And they all went into the ark, for to get out of the rain.



Counting to 7 is a Master's Degree program at U of Kentucky. Nothing to see here.
 
ringersol
2012-01-24 02:36:34 PM
If you care about education, it's past time to leave Kentucky.

I can respect that people probably don't *want* to move. But if your neighbors are insane and you can't outvote them...
 
Kali-Yuga
2012-01-24 02:36:53 PM
Will there be an exhibit containing a pair of each of the 900,000 known insect species? Or an aviary for the ~9,000 pairs of known bird species?
 
baka-san [TotalFark]
2012-01-24 02:37:35 PM
Weaver95: St. Augustine was the original Republican?

Yep!

spcMike: That's the main reason I chose Augustine as my Confirmation saint.

snort
 
Bevets [TotalFark]
2012-01-24 02:38:24 PM
Bevets:

Nothing is to be accepted save on the authority of Scripture, since greater is that authority than all the powers of the human mind. ~ Augustine

HotWingConspiracy:

How does that work? Humans wrote it.

2 Peter 1.20 Above all, you must understand that no prophecy of Scripture came about by the prophet's own interpretation. 21 For prophecy never had its origin in the will of man, but men spoke from God as they were carried along by the Holy Spirit.
 
HotIgneous Intruder
2012-01-24 02:39:04 PM
Church, state, church, state ... state gives tax breaks to business that tells the Christian story ... how about a Muslim theme park?
 
CPennypacker
2012-01-24 02:39:07 PM
Bevets: Bevets:

Nothing is to be accepted save on the authority of Scripture, since greater is that authority than all the powers of the human mind. ~ Augustine

HotWingConspiracy:

How does that work? Humans wrote it.

2 Peter 1.20 Above all, you must understand that no prophecy of Scripture came about by the prophet's own interpretation. 21 For prophecy never had its origin in the will of man, but men spoke from God as they were carried along by the Holy Spirit.

Holy shiat its alive
 
wildstarr [TotalFark]
2012-01-24 02:39:12 PM
Kali-Yuga: Will there be an exhibit containing a pair of each of the 900,000 known insect species? Or an aviary for the ~9,000 pairs of known bird species?

Or how the freah water fish and salt water fish existed in perfect unison?
 
gonzojohn
2012-01-24 02:39:55 PM
I went to sleep in Kentucky but apparently I woke up in Kansas.

/bigfacepalm
 
HotWingConspiracy
2012-01-24 02:40:59 PM
Bevets: Bevets:

Nothing is to be accepted save on the authority of Scripture, since greater is that authority than all the powers of the human mind. ~ Augustine

HotWingConspiracy:

How does that work? Humans wrote it.

2 Peter 1.20 Above all, you must understand that no prophecy of Scripture came about by the prophet's own interpretation. 21 For prophecy never had its origin in the will of man, but men spoke from God as they were carried along by the Holy Spirit.

A human wrote that too. You're silly.
 
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