They're also great hangover cures.

Look into a South Korean's eyes.

Gergesa: Look into a South Korean's eyes.

What does Eric Clapton's song have to do with it?

I think the scariest thing about cancer is that it can hit so randomly, even to people who exercise, eat right, etc.

I had a professor in college that ran daily and watched what he ate. Really seemed like one of the healthiest guys I knew. He was diagnosed with cancer in January and died in March.

Scary to think that if he can pass away so rapidly, what happens to someone that doesn't take care of themself?

/Fark cancer

I assume this thread will devolve into a flamewar on the merits and evils of wearing heels.

i think i'll see if drew will give me permission to collect my fark posts into a book. someone's got to be dumb enough to pay to read them.

Rapmaster2000: I assume this thread will devolve into a flamewar on the merits and evils of wearing heels.

You sir are Hitler!

/godwinned too

mr_a: Based on subby's headline, I was waiting for an article full of pseudo-scientific babble about organic bee pollen and positive thoughts. Was pleasantly surprised at the quality of the article.

Same here. Much of what the article says isn't news to people in the cancer and free radical chemistry fields, and the data has been in for decades that vitamin supplements are a waste. Stay active, eat real food, and you've dramatically increased your chances of a longer, but also higher quality lifespan. This ain't rocket surgery.

Cure for cancer:

1. Drink, eat, do drugs in moderation
2. Fark as much as possible
3. Have fun and enjoy life
4. Don't worry about cancer, since it is only one of thousands of possible causes our your eventual demise.

Huh. I like what he says about sitting (I've heard it before), inflammation, and vitamins.

The baby asprin SORT of makes sense, but that's gonna get you some weird looks in the pharmacy.

The statin medications though? Eurgh. I'd want to hear more about that. Gary Taubes (eat meat, not carbs) is vehemently against them.

How is baby aspirin formed?

Aidan: The baby asprin SORT of makes sense, but that's gonna get you some weird looks in the pharmacy.

WTF? I bet 40% of the US population over 50 takes 81mg aspirin once a day per their physician. Please clue me in to what I am missing here?

JackieRabbit:
4. Don't worry about cancer, since it is only one of thousands of possible causes our your eventual demise.

Kinda reminds me of my biker friends who zoom on the highway at 150+ mph without helmets because, hey, you're going to die eventually, right?

hmm... my wife has been taking daily baby aspirin for years since her stroke three years ago... plus she works at a group home so her lunch is at the same time every day... and wears Birkenstocks for her plantar fasciaitis. oh wait, she has cancer I forgot.

/her podiatrist said that those Dr. Scholl's gel runners are the worst thing for your feet, but then sold her a pair of $150 runners so there's that.

I tried wearing better shoes once, but my football coach told me to take of my Manolo Blahniks. Said they were too stripey for my body type.

praxis44241: JackieRabbit:
4. Don't worry about cancer, since it is only one of thousands of possible causes our your eventual demise.

Kinda reminds me of my biker friends who zoom on the highway at 150+ mph without helmets because, hey, you're going to die eventually, right?

No, that's just stupid. People who do such reckless things actually have a death wish. I've known guys like that. They were actually rather miserable, despite the born to be wild bravado.

"End of illness" is an interesting concept. My commencement speaker spoke of a smilar, albeit even broader concept he called the "tecnology singularity." Ray Kurzweil. Cool guy, and part of my hopes these guys aren't just eternal optimists, but I'm a cynical creature at heart.

/eat right, exercise, die anyway

SH: Aidan: The baby asprin SORT of makes sense, but that's gonna get you some weird looks in the pharmacy.

WTF? I bet 40% of the US population over 50 takes 81mg aspirin once a day per their physician. Please clue me in to what I am missing here?

In terms of a mild anti-inflammatory.

I'm guessing that most of the people taking that much aspirin probably shouldn't? I don't really know, thankfully not being that old yet. :)

FTA:
All told, sitting is almost as deadly as smoking.

So I guess if I smoke while I'm sitting, I'm farked like Chuck.

hailin: I pretty much figure my job will kill me. I sit on my ass 10 hours a day with maybe ten minutes of walking around to use the bathroom. Can't do anything about it since I'm phone support.

stand at your desk?

I enjoyed the article since it didn't seem to have a specific product from a specific company plugged as the answer (statin drugs aside I suppose). All I know is this: I sit at work and have now for 7 years. Sitting makes me feel lazy, makes me fat, and has to be bad for my health overall. Before 7 years ago I was a bartender, always moving, walking, standing, etc, and I felt great (though I drank too much obviously). Sitting is the worst.

The only good idea Donald Rumsfeld had was that he uses a "Standing Desk". It was more like a flat-topped podium that he used as a desk. I would totally use one if my boss paid for it (or even allowed it; I would pony up the cash), and would even accept the incredible amounts of ridicule it would bring.

i can't agree with the doctor's feeling on vitamins. the few people i know who care about health, eat well, do some exercise and take the time to educate themselves about supplements all enjoy excellent health. they look younger than their age as well.
working in concert with a medical professional that is well versed in a supplement lifestyle is key from what i've seen.

notmtwain: I like what he's saying for the most part, especially the part about vitamin supplements being possibly more of a problem than a solution.

//

[media.sharecare.com image 300x300]

Dr. David Agus looks a little healthier younger than that shot of Jack LaLanne in the article.

Yes, because it's been proven time and time again by the people who would rather you NOT be healthy that taking vitamins is stupid.

Keep on believing the shills. It'll serve you well. Oh, and I see from NationalHero's post that the article pushes statin drugs. I'm shocked, I tell you!

People need to realize that doctors are full of opinions too and many of them develop followings, mainly of people who simply like what they hear. The only doctor I'd consider following would be one who counts lots of other doctors among his/her followers. I don't see many of these people as being any different than a televangelist.

I don't take any kind of medicine unless I'm damn near dead. However, I do if I want to have a good time. If you know what I mean, and I think you do.
I never eat lunch at the same time.
I REFUSE to stop wearing stilettos! (5 inch, Guess Mary Jane's on today)
No cancer here.

Did Suzanne Somers write another book?

Flupped Duck: I don't take any kind of medicine unless I'm damn near dead. However, I do if I want to have a good time. If you know what I mean, and I think you do.
I never eat lunch at the same time.
I REFUSE to stop wearing stilettos! (5 inch, Guess Mary Jane's on today)
No cancer here.

How YOU doin'?

All told, sitting is almost as deadly as smoking

Were these test subjects sitting on the interstate? If sitting is that bad for you then I'm toast.

This doctor is an annoying mix of common sense and trolling to plug his book.

I know two classes of pill-poppers: health nuts who take them as part of a well-intentioned if somewhat neurotic lifestyle, and slobs who compensate for eating junk food. And surprise surprise, the former look younger for their age.

One other thing -- I don't dispute the health advantages of a routine. Most people with routines seem healthier and live longer. However, they are also very vulnerable to disruptions in the routine.

Basically, don't live to excess. One-a-day is benign and probably beneficial; he's probably referring to idiots who take hyperdoses of Vitamin C just because they were told it's an antioxidant. Staying active is good for your health, but guess what's super-bad for you? Poverty.

Life's a game of balance and trade-offs. Don't try to cheat.

hailin: wren337: stand at your desk?

Unless you have a standing desk that is completely bad for your back since you need to bend over to type, use a mouse, write on paper, etc. Standing desk makes every at a height where you can stand up straight while continuing to work. I've requested a stand up desk and was denied (even though I was up for desk replacement they just got me a normal desk).

I have three days off a week though where I hardly sit at all since I'm cleaning/working on projects/running errands/etc.

I used to work in support and we had standing (motorized) desks. It was great! Then I moved to R&D and we're stuck in cubes hunched over. What about one of those ball things? No matter how much the ergo people try, sitting at a desk is just the end of your health.

daveinsurgent: hailin: wren337: stand at your desk?

Unless you have a standing desk that is completely bad for your back since you need to bend over to type, use a mouse, write on paper, etc. Standing desk makes every at a height where you can stand up straight while continuing to work. I've requested a stand up desk and was denied (even though I was up for desk replacement they just got me a normal desk).

I have three days off a week though where I hardly sit at all since I'm cleaning/working on projects/running errands/etc.

I used to work in support and we had standing (motorized) desks. It was great! Then I moved to R&D and we're stuck in cubes hunched over. What about one of those ball things? No matter how much the ergo people try, sitting at a desk is just the end of your health.

Jeeze. I gotta go into the backroom and find a box or something to put my computer on. Y'all are making me nervous. :)

daveinsurgent: sitting at a desk is just the end of your health

I think it's just general lack of motion in any one part of the body. The body even instinctively tosses and turns several times a night to keep blood circulating. A lot of people tend to fidget when seated, and I think that's an evolutionary response.

I do OK sitting a desk because one thing our office got right was big desks and wheeled chairs. I also have a habit of constantly shifting from cross-legged to legs down. Put me on a plane, though, and within two hours I feel like a wrung-out wet rag. The human body just isn't designed to stay that motionless.

BEER_ME_in_CT

Stop telling us what to eat and find a cure. Everyone gets Cancer if you live long enough. FIX IT.

my grandma lived to 102 cancer free.

But...my 36 year old cousin had leukemia and now doesn't, but it seems like they found a cure. He went through complete hell and now has his brother's immune system, but he is cancer free.

bearcats1983: I think the scariest thing about cancer is that it can hit so randomly, even to people who exercise, eat right, etc.

I had a professor in college that ran daily and watched what he ate. Really seemed like one of the healthiest guys I knew. He was diagnosed with cancer in January and died in March

Its because lots of cancers have really, really high genetic risk factors. I'm doing some genome sequencing work to identify the causal gene in a few familial cancer and tumour diseases that are pretty nasty. And my mother's side of the family carries a BRCA2 mutation that ups a female carriers risk of breast cancer to something like >60% as well as severely elevated risk of prostate cancer in men.

BEER_ME_in_CT: Stop telling us what to eat and find a cure. Everyone gets Cancer if you live long enough. FIX IT.

Cancer isn't one disease, it is a whole group of hundreds to thousands of distinct varieties that only share ONE phenotypic trait, abnormal cellular reproduction. Lots of cancers ARE effectively curable if caught early.

And for the people knocking his knock on vitamins. This doctor is part of the push for personalized genomic medicine in a big way. One of the ways this will help is because we are learning about some of the underlying causes for variability in response to certain behaviours and interventions. His point is that vitamin evidence is actually wildly variable and really good well controlled studies don't support much, if any benefit, and there are known harms to taking too much of many vitamins. No one has established what an appropriate dose is and it is probable that it would be highly dependent on your genetics, lifestyle, and existing diet. That said I'm not anti-vitamin. I think for the most part it won't hurt and for people with certain conditions or risk factors it may be a good idea. But for the majority of people, probably not necessary at all.

I exercise daily and have taken vitamins that have noticeably increased performance and vitamins that have done nothing. I know that's not science, but I don't think it's all that scientific to stop taking anything at all when a few high profile studies just say not to take a multi either.

Almost everything is harder to "prove" then they're letting on. Just look at the track record of the scientific consensus on eggs and honestly tell me they're sure about vitamins.

my dad also had prostate cancer and had it removed before it spread to the rest of his body. he is now cancer free. early detection is key.

dragonchild: A lot of people tend to fidget when seated, and I think that's an evolutionary response.(

and if a child does it in class, they are labeled as "ADD" and need to be thrown on mind-altering drugs to "calm them down", nevermind the fact that it's never been normal for a human being to sit still in a chair for an extended period of time.

NationalHero: I enjoyed the article since it didn't seem to have a specific product from a specific company plugged as the answer (statin drugs aside I suppose). All I know is this: I sit at work and have now for 7 years. Sitting makes me feel lazy, makes me fat, and has to be bad for my health overall. Before 7 years ago I was a bartender, always moving, walking, standing, etc, and I felt great (though I drank too much obviously). Sitting is the worst.

The only good idea Donald Rumsfeld had was that he uses a "Standing Desk". It was more like a flat-topped podium that he used as a desk. I would totally use one if my boss paid for it (or even allowed it; I would pony up the cash), and would even accept the incredible amounts of ridicule it would bring.

I used to work with a guy who put his computer on a stack of phone books so that he could work standing. That being said, I find it easier to just find time/make excuses to get up and walk around every few minutes.

/or do little dances/scoot around the office or otherwise play when I'm sure nobody is looking
//yes my job is boring, why do you ask?