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(RealClearPolitics) Unlikely Gingrich: I Supported Goldwater   (realclearpolitics.com) divider line 57
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2012-01-24 07:19:44 AM
I can't watch these now, but if the test is accurate Bravo to whever posted these.
 
2012-01-24 07:21:23 AM
Three...Two...One..
 
2012-01-24 07:25:01 AM
His supporters have the attention span of a gnat and the critical thinking skills of a small soapdish, so I doubt this will affect his run to the nomination whatsoever.
 
2012-01-24 07:26:28 AM
i clicked, hoping to find some hypocrisy in the newt.

first link "i was a rockefeller state chairman in the south"

second link "i went to a goldwater organizing committee"

the quotes are out of context and separated by 25 years. i think this may be the most misleading pair of headlines i've ever seen on fark, and i support romney over gingrich...
 
2012-01-24 07:27:37 AM
As I said in the other thread.....

For fark's sake, he was 21 years old in 1964. Who cares who he supported then?
 
2012-01-24 07:28:54 AM
Gingrich: Lie. lie. lie. lie. lie.
John King: Isn't that a lie?
Gingrich: How dare you and the media elite accuse me of lying?!?!?
Audience: (standing ovation)
Gingrich: Lie. lie. lie. lie. lie.
 
2012-01-24 07:39:28 AM
I guess Newtie has always believed in open relationships, and not just in marriage.
 
2012-01-24 07:41:02 AM
thamike: Three...Two...One..

LET'S JAM!
 
2012-01-24 07:41:39 AM
I'm sure he'll support anything that increases his chances of being elected.
 
2012-01-24 07:41:53 AM
I met with Ronald Reagan for the first time in 1974. I worked with Jack Kemp, and Art Laffer and others to develop supply side economics in the late '70s. I helped Governor Reagan become President Reagan. I helped pass the Reagan economic program and worked with the National Security Council on issues including the collapse of the Soviet Empire," Newt Gingrich said at tonight's debate.

I once helped Reagan move a couch up two flights of stairs! I got Reagan a beer once when he didn't even ask for one! Nancy and I engaged in some casual flirting! Before he died, I had Reagan's blood transfused with my own at great personal health risk! HIS POWER FLOWS THROUGH MY DEEDS!
 
2012-01-24 07:51:51 AM
I supported Goldwater as I carried him to the Cemetery and dumped him in an open grave marked 'fiscal responsibility, 'maybe.
 
2012-01-24 07:57:36 AM
jayhawk88: I met with Ronald Reagan for the first time in 1974. I worked with Jack Kemp, and Art Laffer and others to develop supply side economics in the late '70s. I helped Governor Reagan become President Reagan. I helped pass the Reagan economic program and worked with the National Security Council on issues including the collapse of the Soviet Empire," Newt Gingrich said at tonight's debate.

I like how he lists all of these things as if they are some sort of accomplishment, rather than a liability
 
2012-01-24 08:18:21 AM
Goldwater didn't support you.
 
2012-01-24 08:31:10 AM
proteus_b: i clicked, hoping to find some hypocrisy in the newt.

first link "i was a rockefeller state chairman in the south"

second link "i went to a goldwater organizing committee"

the quotes are out of context and separated by 25 years. i think this may be the most misleading pair of headlines i've ever seen on fark, and i support romney over gingrich...


So, he was campaign chairman for a moderate, but toyed around with idea of supporting a conservative?

Nope - there's nothing to that at all, coming from the guy that is supposedly the "conservative alternative" to the moderate Romney.
 
2012-01-24 08:35:43 AM
Jackson Herring: jayhawk88: I met with Ronald Reagan for the first time in 1974. I worked with Jack Kemp, and Art Laffer and others to develop supply side economics in the late '70s. I helped Governor Reagan become President Reagan. I helped pass the Reagan economic program and worked with the National Security Council on issues including the collapse of the Soviet Empire," Newt Gingrich said at tonight's debate.

I like how he lists all of these things as if they are some sort of accomplishment, rather than a liability


Yay, supply side economics, we sure need more of that.. :(
 
2012-01-24 08:37:40 AM
Goldwater would look at this turd and scoff. Just before he died, he was planning to write a book with John Dean. Dean wrote it alone, however:

Link (new window)

Yes. Gingrich is in it. Oh yes he is.
 
2012-01-24 08:41:37 AM
Newt is more Nixonian, I think. He's more a Chuck Colsen type.


Richard Nixon is the only U.S. president who resigned from office.

It's a fact!
 
2012-01-24 08:43:25 AM
cmunic8r99: So, he was campaign chairman for a moderate, but toyed around with idea of supporting a conservative?

Nope - there's nothing to that at all, coming from the guy that is supposedly the "conservative alternative" to the moderate Romney.


considering that at the age that gingrich was "toying around" with different candidates, the current president (as well as the past two) were sitting around with a head full of coke....

i hope to god that none of the lib-tards on fark ever make the mistake of supporting more than one different liberal politician in their early twenties, as this apparently is proof of their unsuitability for office.

/unless they start out as marxists and then later revise to "pragmatic democrat", that's apparently acceptable and commendable...
 
2012-01-24 08:56:52 AM
To be fair, Gingrich couldn't fit into Goldwater's jockstrap, let alone support him...
 
2012-01-24 09:05:13 AM
proteus_b: cmunic8r99: So, he was campaign chairman for a moderate, but toyed around with idea of supporting a conservative?

Nope - there's nothing to that at all, coming from the guy that is supposedly the "conservative alternative" to the moderate Romney.

considering that at the age that gingrich was "toying around" with different candidates, the current president (as well as the past two) were sitting around with a head full of coke....

i hope to god that none of the lib-tards on fark ever make the mistake of supporting more than one different liberal politician in their early twenties, as this apparently is proof of their unsuitability for office.

/unless they start out as marxists and then later revise to "pragmatic democrat", that's apparently acceptable and commendable...


It's not about him supporting more than one politician in his life (for me, anyway). It's that he says he's the true conservative, but campaigned for a moderate.

In other words, either he is a reformed a RINO or he still is one (and his support of healthcare reform and Medicare Part Day point to the latter).

Trust me - in 40 years, if a candidate was the campaign chair of someone like Ben Nelson, but runs for president as the Dennis Kucinich (sp?) of Democrats, I'm gonna have the same reaction.
 
2012-01-24 09:05:30 AM
Jake Havechek: Newt is more Nixonian, I think. He's more a Chuck Colsen type.


Richard Nixon is the only U.S. president who resigned from office.

It's a fact!


Don't tell Gary.
 
2012-01-24 09:12:17 AM
Jake Havechek: Newt is more Nixonian, I think. He's more a Chuck Colsen type.


Richard Nixon is the only U.S. president who resigned from office.

It's a fact!


Pre-conversion or post-conversion Colsen?
 
2012-01-24 09:13:10 AM
cmunic8r99: Trust me - in 40 years, if a candidate was the campaign chair of someone like Ben Nelson, but runs for president as the Dennis Kucinich (sp?) of Democrats, I'm gonna have the same reaction.

mmm hmm.

how about the example of the president then---campus radical to "i'm a christian pragmatic new new dealer".
 
2012-01-24 09:14:10 AM
rjakobi: Jake Havechek: Newt is more Nixonian, I think. He's more a Chuck Colsen type.


Richard Nixon is the only U.S. president who resigned from office.

It's a fact!

Pre-conversion or post-conversion Colsen?


Pre conversion, although it would still be nice to see him dragged down Pennsylvania Avenue by his ankles.
 
2012-01-24 09:23:57 AM
Next, Newt will be telling us he has a black friend...
 
2012-01-24 09:28:51 AM
Jackson Herring: jayhawk88: I met with Ronald Reagan for the first time in 1974. I worked with Jack Kemp, and Art Laffer and others to develop supply side economics in the late '70s. I helped Governor Reagan become President Reagan. I helped pass the Reagan economic program and worked with the National Security Council on issues including the collapse of the Soviet Empire," Newt Gingrich said at tonight's debate.

I like how he lists all of these things as if they are some sort of accomplishment, rather than a liability


I like how he can turn around and state that he's not a Washington Insider and the rubes believe it.
 
2012-01-24 09:32:30 AM
proteus_b: i clicked, hoping to find some hypocrisy in the newt.

first link "i was a rockefeller state chairman in the south"

second link "i went to a goldwater organizing committee"

the quotes are out of context and separated by 25 years. i think this may be the most misleading pair of headlines i've ever seen on fark, and i support romney over gingrich...


I guess it all depends on whether he was a Rockefeller chairman in 64 or 68.
 
2012-01-24 09:48:55 AM
The sad thing is that if Goldwater were running today, Newt (and the rest of the laughing academy running for president) would label him "too liberal" to be president.
 
2012-01-24 09:57:06 AM
Philip Francis Queeg: As I said in the other thread.....

For fark's sake, he was 21 years old in 1964. Who cares who he supported then?


The problem isn't who he supported as a 21 year old. The problem is that he's trying to own either side of the issue when it's convenient.

John Kerry wasn't a flip flopper for changing positions on an important issue after careful consideration. He was a flip flopper because whether he owned a large American made SUV depended on whether he was talking to the UAW or to a group of environmentalists.
 
2012-01-24 10:00:49 AM
Great_Milenko: I like how he can turn around and state that he's not a Washington Insider and the rubes believe it.

When I stop and think about the fact that Newt is now successfully running as a "Washington outsider," I am gobsmacked. It's just unbelievable, but that's the state of the Republican Party now.
 
2012-01-24 10:08:30 AM
In a field of professional liars, Newt really stands out. It is unnerving how much that man lies, or how little it seems to affect his chances. He's honestly into psychopath territory with his crap. Again, you can apply that label to politicians as a whole, but Gingrich goes above and beyond.
 
2012-01-24 10:09:40 AM
Philip Francis Queeg: For fark's sake, he was 21 years old in 1964. Who cares who he supported then?

Other pols who've switched parties (including Perry and -famously- Reagan) have owned their part switch and used it to their advantage.

Newt is (as usual) playing both sides of the issue.
 
2012-01-24 10:13:35 AM
I worked with Jack Kemp, and Art Laffer and others to develop supply side economics in the late '70s.

Supply side economics is a political strategy, not an economic theory? Got it.
 
2012-01-24 10:15:37 AM
Dwight_Yeast: Philip Francis Queeg: For fark's sake, he was 21 years old in 1964. Who cares who he supported then?

Other pols who've switched parties (including Perry and -famously- Reagan) have owned their part switch and used it to their advantage.

Newt is (as usual) playing both sides of the issue.


It wasn't a Party switch. Both Rockefeller and Goldwater were Republicans.
 
2012-01-24 10:17:15 AM
someonelse: Great_Milenko: I like how he can turn around and state that he's not a Washington Insider and the rubes believe it.

When I stop and think about the fact that Newt is now successfully running as a "Washington outsider," I am gobsmacked. It's just unbelievable, but that's the state of the Republican Party now.


"Washington Outsider" is the new Washington Insider.
 
2012-01-24 10:18:09 AM
Philip Francis Queeg:
It wasn't a Party switch. Both Rockefeller and Goldwater were Republicans.


Good point.

Bring me moar coffee!

I have a hard time thinking of Nelson Rockefeller as a Republican, at this point. And as i already pointed out, Goldwater would now be considered "too liberal".
 
2012-01-24 10:21:12 AM
I loved how Newt managed to invoke Reagan within the first 10 words he spoke last night.

Aside from the lobbying bit, I could have scripted the entire debate last night.
 
2012-01-24 10:23:29 AM
Newt's new platform: a noun, a verb, Ronald Reagan.
 
2012-01-24 10:28:01 AM
I wish. Goldwater hated what the Religious right did to the Republican Party. He was pro-equal rights for LGBT citizens and thought government had no right restricting a woman's right to choose.

shiat if Goldwater was running today I might vote for him.
 
2012-01-24 10:29:51 AM
Gwendolyn: I wish. Goldwater hated what the Religious right did to the Republican Party. He was pro-equal rights for LGBT citizens and thought government had no right restricting a woman's right to choose.

shiat if Goldwater was running today I might vote for him.


Zombie Goldwater/Ike 2012!
 
2012-01-24 10:52:25 AM
Gwendolyn: I wish. Goldwater hated what the Religious right did to the Republican Party. He was pro-equal rights for LGBT citizens and thought government had no right restricting a woman's right to choose.

shiat if Goldwater was running today I might vote for him.


I don't think I would've.
I might consider zombie Eisenhower, though.
 
2012-01-24 10:55:35 AM
Rev. Skarekroe: Gwendolyn: I wish. Goldwater hated what the Religious right did to the Republican Party. He was pro-equal rights for LGBT citizens and thought government had no right restricting a woman's right to choose.

shiat if Goldwater was running today I might vote for him.

I don't think I would've.
I might consider zombie Eisenhower, though.


I learned alot about his uneasy relationship with religious conservatives when reading The Family. He tried as best he could to maintain an arms length. And this was when Coe and the other founders were just getting started. Also around the time they started the National Prayer Breakfast.
 
2012-01-24 11:13:27 AM
Rev. Skarekroe: Gwendolyn: I wish. Goldwater hated what the Religious right did to the Republican Party. He was pro-equal rights for LGBT citizens and thought government had no right restricting a woman's right to choose.

shiat if Goldwater was running today I might vote for him.

I don't think I would've.
I might consider zombie Eisenhower, though.


If I had to pick a zombie Republican to vote for, it would be Teddy Roosevelt.
 
2012-01-24 11:28:44 AM
Jake Havechek: Newt is more Nixonian, I think. He's more a Chuck Colsen type.


Richard Nixon is the only U.S. president who resigned from office.

It's a fact!


No, according to Politifact, whether someone resigned in disgrace isn't a checkable fact...
 
2012-01-24 11:30:38 AM
proteus_b: i clicked, hoping to find some hypocrisy in the newt.

first link "i was a rockefeller state chairman in the south"

second link "i went to a goldwater organizing committee"

the quotes are out of context and separated by 25 years. i think this may be the most misleading pair of headlines i've ever seen on fark, and i support romney over gingrich...


Republican presidential candidate Newt Gingrich flip flops then says that anyone that uses direct quotes from him is lying.
http://videocafe.crooksandliars.com/david/gingrich-any-ad-which-quote s -what-i-said-sun
 
2012-01-24 11:32:04 AM
jayhawk88: I met with Ronald Reagan for the first time in 1974. I worked with Jack Kemp, and Art Laffer and others to develop supply side economics in the late '70s. I helped Governor Reagan become President Reagan. I helped pass the Reagan economic program and worked with the National Security Council on issues including the collapse of the Soviet Empire," Newt Gingrich said at tonight's debate.

I once helped Reagan move a couch up two flights of stairs! I got Reagan a beer once when he didn't even ask for one! Nancy and I engaged in some casual flirting! Before he died, I had Reagan's blood transfused with my own at great personal health risk! HIS POWER FLOWS THROUGH MY DEEDS!


While Newt Gingrich has many opinions on many things, a running theme of his record of provocative public has been his opinion of himself and how he stacks up against other great -- and not so great -- minds. He is as unconventional as Margaret Thatcher, as great a compromiser as Henry Clay, as tough as Ho Chi Minh and definitely smarter than Michele Bachmann and the entire on-air staff of Fox News. On Wednesday, we learned that as his campaign was barely surviving this summer, Gingrich never doubted himself, according to Politico's new e-book, The Right Fights Back. 'I told somebody at one point, "This is like watching [Sam] Walton or [Ray] Kroc develop Walmart and McDonald's,'" he said. The history-loving Gingrich has a long history of making such comparisons.
 
2012-01-24 11:33:00 AM
And now we know why there wasn't a President Goldwater
 
2012-01-24 11:34:24 AM
Great_Milenko: Jackson Herring: jayhawk88: I met with Ronald Reagan for the first time in 1974. I worked with Jack Kemp, and Art Laffer and others to develop supply side economics in the late '70s. I helped Governor Reagan become President Reagan. I helped pass the Reagan economic program and worked with the National Security Council on issues including the collapse of the Soviet Empire," Newt Gingrich said at tonight's debate.

I like how he lists all of these things as if they are some sort of accomplishment, rather than a liability

I like how he can turn around and state that he's not a Washington Insider and the rubes believe it.


Of course he's not a Warshington insider.

Newt Gingrich made more appearances on Meet the Press than any other individual in 2009. The actual speaker of the House, Nancy Pelosi, did not appear once on the show in 2009.
http://www.thenation.com/doc/20100201/alterman
 
2012-01-24 11:38:30 AM
Diogenes: I loved how Newt managed to invoke Reagan within the first 10 words he spoke last night.

Aside from the lobbying bit, I could have scripted the entire debate last night.


"The 68-year-old has compared himself to Charles de Gaulle. He has noted nonchalantly: "People like me are what stand between us and Auschwitz." As speaker, he liked to tell reporters he was a World Historical Transformational Figure."
 
2012-01-24 11:40:50 AM
Bucky Katt: Diogenes: I loved how Newt managed to invoke Reagan within the first 10 words he spoke last night.

Aside from the lobbying bit, I could have scripted the entire debate last night.

"The 68-year-old has compared himself to Charles de Gaulle. He has noted nonchalantly: "People like me are what stand between us and Auschwitz." As speaker, he liked to tell reporters he was a World Historical Transformational Figure."


Well, could you pick a better person to preserve the whole of Western civilization and culture?

I think the scab I picked off my toe this morning would be better than Gingrich.
 
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