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So why did Billy Cundiff miss the field goal in the Raven/Patriots game? Here are the behind-the-scene details showing that timing is everything
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urban.derelict
2012-01-24 07:38:54 AM
Subby FAILs at Engrish.
bangmaid
2012-01-24 07:50:46 AM
Dan Marino should die of ghonnorrea and burn in hell.
BloodySaxon
2012-01-24 07:53:37 AM
Let's preemptively kick the conspiracy theory in the nards.
The Ravens, of course, could have made all this confusion moot by calling a timeout. Instead, coach John Harbaugh decided to let Cundiff run on the field and kick.
UNC_Samurai
2012-01-24 07:54:14 AM
More importantly, Harbaugh didn't call a time-out to give his team time to set up. I can't blame Cundiff for that.
/clock management Andy Reid could be proud of
Jake Havechek
2012-01-24 07:58:33 AM
A wormhole opened up, and in the universe where the Ravens win, he made the kick and the Ravens won in overtime. However, in this universe, the Patriots won, as instability in the space time continuum caused to ball to ever so slightly angle away from the inside of the posts.
Tophersky
2012-01-24 07:58:44 AM
I say the Pats cheated.
DarthBrooks
2012-01-24 08:00:31 AM
He has only one job to do. And he failed at doing it.
Doesn't have to tackle anyone, doesn't get tackled. Doesn't even have to catch a ball. Just kick the ball through the goalposts. That's it. He probably doesn't even have to drive himself to practice because he might hurt his foot on the accelerator.
Hundreds of other guys tried out for the job of NFL kicker. He got the job. He could practice all year long. And he still couldn't do it right.
Contract negotiations should be interesting next year.
Pratty
2012-01-24 08:00:46 AM
I don't think this really has any weight, he just missed due to being rushed, be it because of downs or time. It's the coach's job to respond to confusion like this and he didn't.
Cundiff has responsability to take for missing and Harbaugh for not calling a timeout.
GAT_00
2012-01-24 08:05:08 AM
It wasn't really just a miss. It was more like a Shankapotamous or something. He would have had to work to miss more than that.
Obscure Login
2012-01-24 08:07:20 AM
I think it was a good non-timeout by Harbaugh.
Timeouts are important, you can't just go wasting them on something silly like a field goal attempt to tie the game and save your season. He might have needed it for something really important in the remaining 10 seconds.
acronym
2012-01-24 08:16:49 AM
sorry, it was my fault. Right after half time, Cundiff asked me to punch him as hard as I could in the stomach
foo monkey
2012-01-24 08:22:01 AM
When is Ray Lewis going to retire?
Gordie_Howe_Hat_Trick
2012-01-24 08:23:35 AM
I give Harbaugh credit for saving those timeouts for next season. When other coaches are wasting theirs, he's stock-piling his for the following season.
You've got to love that kind of forethought.
born_yesterday
2012-01-24 08:23:50 AM
Jake Havechek
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A wormhole opened up, and in the universe where the Ravens win, he made the kick and the Ravens won in overtime. However, in this universe, the Patriots won, as instability in the space time continuum caused to ball to ever so slightly angle away from the inside of the posts.
Remember ten years ago when the Ravens won the Superbowl? When their defense was so good, they could afford to lateral the ball several times after an interception or forced fumble?
That's how they finished the Superbowl this year. It was awesome. Ed Reed picked it off, Chris Carr ran it back about 65 yards (boy, did that make up for a lot of errors this season!), and Ray Lewis pounded it into the end zone. Ray rice had 7 carries of over 80 yards each, and Flacco broke every individual game passing record IN THE FIRST HALF.
Unfortunately, after the game I stumbled into an interdimensional time portal, and ended up here. I thought I had just traveled back in time, but when Cundiff missed that kick...Well, at least this world seems langolier-free, so it's got that going for it!
Publikwerks
2012-01-24 08:26:47 AM
foo monkey
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When is Ray Lewis going to retire?
Probably after Cundiff's body is found as part of a plea agreement.
mr_a
2012-01-24 08:31:52 AM
He didn't know the down, and had to hurry, and then rushed the kick...
Maybe we should just hire professionals to play football so this kind of thing won't happen again?
tommyl66
2012-01-24 08:32:02 AM
It's all a bit of gamesmanship on Cundiff's part, actually. He doesn't want to acknowledge what really threw him off was me yelling "MMMMMMISS, MMMMMISS, NOOOONAN, NNNNNNNOOOOOONAN, MMMMMMMMISS" up in Section 326. Bastard doesn't want to admit I rattled him good...
imapirate
2012-01-24 08:34:47 AM
foo monkey
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When is Ray Lewis going to retire?
More importantly, how many more people will he kill?
skinink
2012-01-24 08:44:24 AM
DarthBrooks
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He has only one job to do. And he failed at doing it.
Doesn't have to tackle anyone, doesn't get tackled. Doesn't even have to catch a ball. Just kick the ball through the goalposts. That's it. He probably doesn't even have to drive himself to practice because he might hurt his foot on the accelerator.
Hundreds of other guys tried out for the job of NFL kicker. He got the job. He could practice all year long. And he still couldn't do it right.
Contract negotiations should be interesting next year.
Your father had one job, to produce some smart offspring. By the looks of your post, I'd say he's failed at least once.
degenerate-afro
2012-01-24 08:48:06 AM
Some of the stuff you guys may not have heard:
"I think we can keep things simple: It's a kick I've made a thousand times in my career, I just went out there and didn't convert. There's really no excuse for it." - Billy Cundiff
"I'm disappointed that I let my teammates down. Ray played his heart out. He's had a long career and you don't know how many years he has left. To let him down, it's pretty tough." - Billy Cundiff
"As a man, I said it earlier: Not one play won or lost this game. Could you have put us in a position to keep playing? Absolutely, but one play didn't win or lose the game. There is no one man who has ever lost a game. There is no 'it's Billy's fault' here or 'Billy missed the kick.' It happens. Move on, move on, because life doesn't stop." - Ray Lewis
"I told him it's going to be OK. We'll move on. He's a great kicker. Everybody has a tough moment. Billy will be fine." - John Harbaugh
Also as a bonus:
"Well, I sucked pretty bad today." - Tom Brady
NASAM
2012-01-24 08:53:21 AM
bangmaid
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Dan Marino should die of ghonnorrea and burn in hell.
Whada you know about Ray Finkle?
Captain_Ballbeard
2012-01-24 09:00:12 AM
Why?
Same reason Raiders Centers go rogue before the biggest game of their life and officials go blind from time to time. Larry Merchant covered this already. A complicated form of Pro Wrestling.
SmurfsRnotSilver
2012-01-24 09:02:23 AM
I'd just like to add this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eGCZffZGD24
Suggs just became my favorite Raven...
SmurfsRnotSilver
2012-01-24 09:03:08 AM
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My bad.
Wookie Milson
2012-01-24 09:05:58 AM
DoBeDoBeDo
2012-01-24 09:06:28 AM
SmurfsRnotSilver
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My bad.
Raven? Suggs is now my favorite person.
NaziKamikaze
2012-01-24 09:10:44 AM
Tickle Mittens
2012-01-24 09:14:37 AM
Cundiff missed because he is Cundiff and therefore erratic. Which is why he's played for so many teams in such a short career. How he's played like 9 years with how he's played, man, I'll never know. No one who watched him play for the Cowboys could have possibly been surprised by that shank. But the look on the Raven's players, man, *that* was priceless.
ole prophet
2012-01-24 09:21:24 AM
How about part of your process be hitting a chip jump?
/farking kickers
/wonders if we are far from seeing female soccer players as kickers
Rapmaster2000
2012-01-24 09:25:09 AM
GimpyNip
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You people are ridiculous. If they called a timeout you'd be screaming, 'why is he icing his own kicker!'
Only the idiots who still believe in icing the kicker would say that... unless you're implying that everyone on Fark is an idiot, which is probably a safe assumption.
AdmirableSnackbar
2012-01-24 09:28:38 AM
Clearly, Cundiff was not thinking about brunette girls.
Rapmaster2000
2012-01-24 09:29:02 AM
ole prophet
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How about part of your process be hitting a chip jump?
/farking kickers
/wonders if we are far from seeing female soccer players as kickers
Coaches are becoming more comfortable with 50+ yard kicks. You're not going to trade a 0% chance at 50+ yards for a slightly higher accuracy at 30- yards.
raidersofthelostfark
2012-01-24 09:32:33 AM
Back,,, and to the left.
Back... and to the left.
FreakinB
2012-01-24 09:33:32 AM
I think it's pretty obvious that both Cundiff and Harbaugh farked up.
Tickle Mittens
2012-01-24 09:38:08 AM
FreakinB
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I think it's pretty obvious that both Cundiff and Harbaugh farked up.
And Flacco, and Evans. There's enough to go around.
FreakinB
2012-01-24 09:40:59 AM
Tickle Mittens
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FreakinB: I think it's pretty obvious that both Cundiff and Harbaugh farked up.
And Flacco, and Evans. There's enough to go around.
I actually thought Flacco played really well. Not perfect, but I wouldn't point to him as one of the main reasons that things went wrong. He made a great throw on the Evans drop so one could even argue that he was clutch.
The Smails Kid
2012-01-24 09:41:58 AM
tommyl66
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It's all a bit of gamesmanship on Cundiff's part, actually. He doesn't want to acknowledge what really threw him off was me yelling "MMMMMMISS, MMMMMISS, NOOOONAN, NNNNNNNOOOOOONAN, MMMMMMMMISS" up in Section 326. Bastard doesn't want to admit I rattled him good...
That's my line.
lajotu
2012-01-24 09:44:54 AM
Q: So why did Billy Cundiff miss the field goal in the Raven/Patriots game? Here are the behind-the-scene details showing that timing is everything
A: Because he still had the stink of the Cowboys on him.
PirateFreedom
2012-01-24 09:50:37 AM
degenerate-afro
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"Well, I sucked pretty bad today." - Tom Brady
But look at what the damn homer Aaron Schatz is selling
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Tickle Mittens
2012-01-24 09:52:17 AM
FreakinB
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Tickle Mittens: FreakinB: I think it's pretty obvious that both Cundiff and Harbaugh farked up.
And Flacco, and Evans. There's enough to go around.
I actually thought Flacco played really well. Not perfect, but I wouldn't point to him as one of the main reasons that things went wrong. He made a great throw on the Evans drop so one could even argue that he was clutch.
He played OK, but that interception... I mean sure he's behind his line, arms in the air, but really!? That's as terrible an interception as a QB can throw if only because he put that ball exactly where he wanted to. That's all on him, and all of it inside his head. He had some other throws that didn't exactly demonstrate development either. Flacco plays better against a terrible Patriots secondary he could absolutely have been the guy that put his team on his back and carried them to victory. But he played somewhat less than Dilfer-esque. That good enough to keep working, but not good enough to get to the superbowl this year.
SlothB77
2012-01-24 09:55:23 AM
Would that kick have been a make from XP distance? It was quite bad.
RminusQ
2012-01-24 09:58:42 AM
ole prophet
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How about part of your process be hitting a chip jump?
/farking kickers
/wonders if we are far from seeing female soccer players as kickers
Well that'd be somewhere we could put Carli Lloyd where she wouldn't need to worry about blasting it over the net.
FreakinB
2012-01-24 09:59:14 AM
Tickle Mittens
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FreakinB: Tickle Mittens: FreakinB: I think it's pretty obvious that both Cundiff and Harbaugh farked up.
And Flacco, and Evans. There's enough to go around.
I actually thought Flacco played really well. Not perfect, but I wouldn't point to him as one of the main reasons that things went wrong. He made a great throw on the Evans drop so one could even argue that he was clutch.
He played OK, but that interception... I mean sure he's behind his line, arms in the air, but really!? That's as terrible an interception as a QB can throw if only because he put that ball exactly where he wanted to. That's all on him, and all of it inside his head. He had some other throws that didn't exactly demonstrate development either. Flacco plays better against a terrible Patriots secondary he could absolutely have been the guy that put his team on his back and carried them to victory. But he played somewhat less than Dilfer-esque. That good enough to keep working, but not good enough to get to the superbowl this year.
The interception was bad but that was really the only play that I found to be egregious. But I'm willing to excuse one fark-up per game with pretty much any QB. He also underthrew Smith on that bomb to set up the FG in the 1st half. It would've been a TD if he hadn't, but IIRC he was under pressure on that play.
But overall the Ravens got way more out of Flacco than I would have expected.
Richard Sauce
2012-01-24 10:01:18 AM
Plenty of blame to go around, but that is a suspicious scoreboard mistake and I would put nothing past the Pats. The spot markers on the field should also reflect the down, if they were right I can't imagine why the scoreboard was wrong.
hbk72777
2012-01-24 10:02:42 AM
Rapmaster2000
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GimpyNip: You people are ridiculous. If they called a timeout you'd be screaming, 'why is he icing his own kicker!'
Only the idiots who still believe in icing the kicker would say that... unless you're implying that everyone on Fark is an idiot, which is probably a safe assumption.
It might not stop the kick, but it could help the defense, just ask Pierre-Paul
Link
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macadamnut
2012-01-24 10:04:54 AM
They kept showing Cundiff on the sidelines while the offense was still driving down into range and you could see all over his face there was no way he was ever going to make that kick, even if they set him up at the 2-yard line. The giant shiat in his pants threw him off balance.
Tickle Mittens
2012-01-24 10:14:41 AM
FreakinB
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The interception was bad but that was really the only play that I found to be egregious. But I'm willing to excuse one fark-up per game with pretty much any QB. He also underthrew Smith on that bomb to set up the FG in the 1st half. It would've been a TD if he hadn't, but IIRC he was under pressure on that play.
But overall the Ravens got way more out of Flacco than I would have expected.
I don't know if Seneca Wallace would have done better. But if he had, it wouldn't have surprised me. I'll agree that interception was Flacco's only truly terrible play, but it was maximally terrible from what it says about the quarterback. Went exactly where he wanted it, straight to a defender, and a LB at that. It wasn't even a super fast/agile corner making a play, or setting one up like Porter did to Reggie Wayne and Manning in that Superbowl. It's a throw that shouldn't be made in high school. For me to understand what he was thinking, he'd have to come out and admit he's blind in one eye, and he didn't want to say anything about it before so as to prevent the competition from getting an advantage over him, but since it's obvious now.... How Flacco isn't killing it every week with Bouldin, I'll never know. I'm just glad I only ever have to see that asshole every 4 years.
BloodySaxon
2012-01-24 10:16:17 AM
Richard Sauce
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Plenty of blame to go around, but that is a suspicious scoreboard mistake and I would put nothing past the Pats. The spot markers on the field should also reflect the down, if they were right I can't imagine why the scoreboard was wrong.
Tinfoil block the mind rays.
The markers were correct, but the confusion probably came from the fumble out of bounds. Where it left play was a first down, but it was properly spotted where possession was lost instead. The Ravens also thought they had a first to begin with.
Sounds like they were in on it!!!!!
degenerate-afro
2012-01-24 10:19:12 AM
PirateFreedom
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degenerate-afro: "Well, I sucked pretty bad today." - Tom Brady
But look at what the damn homer Aaron Schatz is selling (new window)
So what you are saying is
Brady isn't capable of assessing his own performance?
I'm not sure if I made it clear, but all of the quotes that I posted were direct.
velvet_fog
2012-01-24 10:19:15 AM
degenerate-afro
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"I'm disappointed that I let my teammates down. Ray played his heart out. He's had a long career and you don't know how many years he has left. To let him down, it's pretty tough." - Billy Cundiff
AKA: "Please don't kill me, Ray."
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