violentsalvation: Yes, his absurdly low tax rate is his fault.

You're correct, but not just people like him. It's been Republicans as a whole over the past 30 years or so.

dletter: And while I agree his tax rate could be higher, I would be for lowering his tax rate, even down to 0, if he was reinvesting his money into things that actually create jobs.... and not just a policy of "lets lower their rate and hope they do"..... that is the main problem I have with the GOPs logic. "We need to lower the super-rich people's rates so they can create opportunities and jobs!!". "So, you'll make tax rules/regulations that force them to do that if they have that tax rate?" "Well, no, we're just assuming they'll want to". Ooooookkkkkayyy.

It's hard to force them into creating jobs with regulations... I say that, among other things, we raise his taxes to a reputable level (top bracket to something like 40%) and then use all that income to fund massive public works projects, educational reform (more funding for schools instead of privatizing and marginalizing poor kids) and real healthcare reform so we can do better than the ACA. That way people will be better educated, healthcare won't be bankrupting people and we'll definitely be creating jobs instead of just hoping they'll be created. Of course, this is all socialism so the GOP would shout it all down.

This does make his obvious enjoyment of forcing Teddy Kennedy to re-mortgage his house seem extra douchey...

SJKebab: FTFA: The documents showed he and his wife contributed $7 million in charity over the two years, much of it going to his Mormon church. That represents more than 15 percent of the Romneys' income for those years.

I don't have a big problem with this, so long as the church he donates to actually does charitable work. If this just buys buildings and plots of land for the church, then it's a scam and should be treated as such.

Where I used to live in Alabama, this large church built a massive gym with tons of exercises equipment -- it was as good as any commercial gym. In effect, church members got to take a tax donation on their gym membership.

Yeah, Mitt Romney, he's just like you, he knows what it's like to buy store brand bread and turn your heat down to 58^o in the winter!

Think how many jobs Mitt would have created had he only paid 7% in taxes.

violentsalvation: Yes, his absurdly low tax rate is his fault.

Clearly his believes he's paying too much in taxes. His tax plan would result in his tax rate being cut in half.

It's hard to 'conceptualize' that kind of money, if it was easy, I doubt it would be allowed to occur.

This is why you farking fail. THIS is the mechanism.

"I don't think you want someone as the candidate for president who pays more taxes than he owes.''

Why not?

OMG YOU GUYS ARE JUST JEALOUS

Ever wonder what the LDS is up to with all that tithe money? I know you Baptists do. Better give Gingrich the nod, he's the only one that can save your faith now.

violentsalvation: Yes, his absurdly low tax rate is his fault.

Certainly not. However, it IS indicative of a problem with America's tax structures. It's also indicative that Romney has absolutely no connection with anyone who's not a millionaire. I mean, his "not very much income from speaking engagements" ALONE puts him in the top 1%, and he didn't even notice the income! And, his plan to cut his own taxes while raising them on everyone else IS a problem.

And finally, let's not forget that Mittens would not be rich nor famous were his daddy not rich and famous. Although he's probably not as incompetent Bush, who likewise was born on third and thought he hit a triple.

Why do liberals hate success? Romney worked hard and created thousands of jobs he SHOULD be rewarded. He followed all the laws about paying taxes and donated large amounts of money to charity.

dletter: Are you as indignant towards them as well?

dletter: lets not single out Romney with his wealth and earnings

Romney is the one running for president and he's running for president on the ticket of a party that seems downright offended that he even has to pay that much. So, yes, let's single out Romney. If Michael Vick starts shooting off his mouth about how he shouldn't have to pay such "high" taxes because poor people have refrigerators THEN I'll start attacking him too.

Until then, Romney is the one that wants to be president, he's the one that wants to be president in a party that wants the ultra-rich's taxes cut even further while raising taxes on the bottom 50%, so he gets the scrutiny.

Carth: Why do liberals hate success? Romney worked hard and created thousands of jobs he SHOULD be rewarded. He followed all the laws about paying taxes and donated large amounts of money to charity.

Romney has never created a job in his life and you know it.

/Well, maybe some in CHina or India or even South Korea.

Carth: Why do liberals hate success? Romney worked hard and created thousands of jobs he SHOULD be rewarded. He followed all the laws about paying taxes and donated large amounts of money to charity.

Mmm hmmm.... we'll pretend, I suppose, that you're actually being honest here just for the shiats and giggles. It's been a slow morning so far and I need something to do, so I guess I'll feed you since you just hocked up all those talking points.

1. How many jobs did he create.
2. Nobody claimed he did anything illegal.
3. He got tax breaks for his donations.
4. You have no point and what you said is entirely empty blather.

If more than 50% of your income is from capital gains, it should be taxed as wages.

Carth: donated large amounts of money to charity

Oh, and by the way, donating your money to the Temple of Tiamat isn't exactly a great moral thing.

Carth: Why do liberals hate success? Romney worked hard and created thousands of jobs he SHOULD be rewarded. He followed all the laws about paying taxes and donated large amounts of money to charity.

WHAR JOBS WHE?

I hate people that know how to do things that I don't! My ignorance is so unfair of them. :'(

violentsalvation: Yes, his absurdly low tax rate is his fault.

It doesn't have to be his fault, but it's definitely something to consider for those of us who think such a thing shouldn't be possible.

Jackson Herring

That makes total sense. Poor people just waste money, a finite resource. They may not have a lot individually, but with 45 million Americans in poverty that adds up. You think about all that money going to waste on cigarettes, lottery tickets, and 40s -- well if upstanding job creators could just get their hands on that you'd see an economic boom you wouldn't believe and we'd all be the better for it. And that's not the end of it. Poor people in this country are over-rewarded for their sloth with big-screen TVs and refrigerators with built-in ice makers and respond by filling our Head Start programs with Fetal Alcohol Syndrome. If we could just get back to a market driven economy rather than redistributive Earned Income Tax Credits maybe these people would have to start making the hard economic decisions which lead to an efficient economy, rather than fueling their immorality at the public trough.