As horrible as the way that that son or daughter and son was created, it still is her child. And whether she has that child or doesn't, it will always be her child. And she will always know that. And so to embrace her and to love her and to support her and get her through this very difficult time

And then immediately stop loving her and start calling her a welfare queen.

What if I don't believe his god exists?

I don't think imaginary friends belong in a rape discussion. I'd rather like to believe the law would be on the victim's side, and that's it, farktard.

Jesus f*cking Christ...

Santorum needs a broomstick shoved up his ass. No lube, despite his name.

vudukungfu: I hope he gets farked in the ass and becomes ass pregnant, and has to give birth to a full grown Butt-babby while spewing santorum, glorious, righteous, healing, brown, frothy, lubed, santorum, of Kee-Riste. Then needs an ass-abortion so hideous that even the lowly coathangers that hang in the hallowed halls of his church have to wince in pain as they scrape the evil gay impregnated butt-child of Santoum from his brown and frothy bunghole while it screms in post abortion agony like some alien child of ghey sex and calls out for "daddy" while he tires to hid his ridiculously wierd boehner.

Yeah pretty much what I was thinking.

Shostie: Jesus f*cking rapin' Christ...

In a way, he's right. It's not the kid's fault that his daddy is a rapist.

But i still maintain that a woman has the right to murder her unborn baby.

If men could become pregnant, abortion would be a sacrament.

/Bears repeating

douchebag

Benevolent Misanthrope: If men could become pregnant, abortion would be a sacrament.

/Bears repeating

QFT

We have horrible things happen. I can't think of anything more horrible. But, nevertheless, we have to make the best out of a bad situation.

I assume he means by putting it up for adoption with a gay or lesbian couple, right?

Also there was a giant Pro-Life rally in DC today and as I go to Catholic University they were using it as a staging area and place for refreshments. The crowd was men over 45, nuns, priests, friars, and kids 16-20. In the teenagers were a hell of a lot of young men in ties and blazers holding Rick Santorum signs.

For those who don't know it was about 35, icy, and rainy in DC today. I couldn't help laughing at the preppyness of not bundling the hell up and looking like a poster boy for the Young Republicans (which a lot of them were as they had buttons which identified them as such).Made me think of The Order of Balls and Shaft guys from PCU.

And if you don't believe in God? Oh, that's right, you want a theocracy so you're not a real citizen anyway. Never mind.

And I assume he, his friends and family, and his supporters have all adopted unwanted children...

WorldCitizen: And I assume he, his friends and family, and his supporters have all adopted unwanted children...

...and had no problem paying for pre and post natal care for raped women....

Our Rapist, who art in heaven...

Lionel Mandrake: Our Rapist, who art in heaven...

Well, to be fair, the immaculate conception was a truly divine rape.

Well hopefully while being raped she learned to relax and enjoy it for what it was. Then it will be a beautiful love child.

You. Jackass.

Yeah, he's evil, but having read Mother Jones' 28 year old profile of Newt Gingrich, I find it weird that he's not the most evil person in the Republican race right now.

It's even weirder that Romney and Ron Paul are among the most sane of the Republican candidates.

We have horrible things happen. I can't think of anything more horrible. But, nevertheless, we have to make the best out of a bad situation.



when your party loses this year and begins to disintegrate before your eyes - remember your words here this day: make the best of a bad situation.

doyner: WorldCitizen: And I assume he, his friends and family, and his supporters have all adopted unwanted children...

...and had no problem paying for pre and post natal care for raped women....

Well, and have no problems supporting through government social programs all the children born to parents who can't afford the medical care, food, and day to day needs for the children to be healthy and educated. Santorum is pro-life like that after they are born, right?

WorldCitizen: doyner: WorldCitizen: And I assume he, his friends and family, and his supporters have all adopted unwanted children...

...and had no problem paying for pre and post natal care for raped women....

Well, and have no problems supporting through government social programs all the children born to parents who can't afford the medical care, food, and day to day needs for the children to be healthy and educated. Santorum is pro-life like that after they are born, right?

women should plan to BE raped, that way they'll have funds set aside for them to give birth to their rapists baby and care for it as their own child. Of course, the rapist (if found and convicted) will pay child support. Not that the woman will get much, since convict labor doesn't pay very much but hey - that's how it goes.

Weaver95: WorldCitizen: doyner: WorldCitizen: And I assume he, his friends and family, and his supporters have all adopted unwanted children...

...and had no problem paying for pre and post natal care for raped women....

Well, and have no problems supporting through government social programs all the children born to parents who can't afford the medical care, food, and day to day needs for the children to be healthy and educated. Santorum is pro-life like that after they are born, right?

women should plan to BE raped, that way they'll have funds set aside for them to give birth to their rapists baby and care for it as their own child. Of course, the rapist (if found and convicted) will pay child support. Not that the woman will get much, since convict labor doesn't pay very much but hey - that's how it goes.

...and if those women don't get rich before the planned rape, well, that's their fault.

Seriously, this is why we need to keep religion out of government.

I honestly don't think Santorum understands the logical consquences of his own policy positions. Nor do I think he can be forced to understand his own contradictions. its almost like there's a mental block in his brain that won't LET him see why his ideas are so unworkable in reality.

Weaver95: I honestly don't think Santorum understands the logical consquences of his own policy positions. Nor do I think he can be forced to understand his own contradictions. its almost like there's a mental block in his brain that won't LET him see why his ideas are so unworkable in reality.

A fundamentalist without critical thinking skills? No!

Weaver95: I honestly don't think Santorum understands the logical consquences of his own policy positions. Nor do I think he can be forced to understand his own contradictions. its almost like there's a mental block in his brain that won't LET him see why his ideas are so unworkable in reality.

Get pregnant from rape then subject yourself to the trauma of an abortion because you can't bear to carry and raise the embodiment of your torture? That's a felony in Santorumland!

here's the results of a quick google search on Santorum's views regarding welfare.

so if I understand Santorum's policy position on this, women who are raped should not ONLY bear the children who result from a rape but should also pay for everything themselves without any help from social services.

hmm.

that doesn't seem very Christian to me.

Weaver95: here's the results of a quick google search on Santorum's views regarding welfare.

so if I understand Santorum's policy position on this, women who are raped should not ONLY bear the children who result from a rape but should also pay for everything themselves without any help from social services.

hmm.

that doesn't seem very Christian to me.

So, basically he believes in big government control of your insides and is for using government power for "pro-life" through the birth of a child, but then believes the government should completely abandon that child to social Darwinism as soon as it is out of the vagina. Got it. Yes, that sounds sounds very consistently pro-life and very Christian of him.

Well, I guess he probably doesn't even support guaranteed medical care of the mother and the fetus while inside the woman's body either...

Weaver95: here's the results of a quick google search on Santorum's views regarding welfare.

so if I understand Santorum's policy position on this, women who are raped should not ONLY bear the children who result from a rape but should also pay for everything themselves without any help from social services.

hmm.

that doesn't seem very Christian to me.

Well, it is 12th century Christian.

shh... just relax...thank god i'm giving you this rape

WorldCitizen: Well, I guess he probably doesn't even support guaranteed medical care of the mother and the fetus while inside the woman's body either...

I don't have time to go digging for his health care views, but i'll go look for it when I get home later tonight. perhaps someone else might be kind enough to do a quick and dirty google search on the subject for us...? might be interesting to compare/compile Santorum's views on health care and social safety net spending for all these rape victims he wants to inflict unwanted pregnancies on.

and for a bonus round we'll cover Christ's messge to succor the poor no matter the cost with Santorums 'f*ck the poor' philosophy and see just how Christian mr. Santorum really is....

Weaver95: that doesn't seem very Christian to me.

Well, it's not "Christ-like," but it's definitely on par with Christians today. The ones on the internet, anyway.

Rapists and their hate babies should be terminated.

jaylectricity: Weaver95: that doesn't seem very Christian to me.

Well, it's not "Christ-like," but it's definitely on par with Christians today. The ones on the internet, anyway.

the people running around calling themselves 'christian' today don't act like christ told his followers to act.

Weaver95: WorldCitizen: Well, I guess he probably doesn't even support guaranteed medical care of the mother and the fetus while inside the woman's body either...

I don't have time to go digging for his health care views, but i'll go look for it when I get home later tonight. perhaps someone else might be kind enough to do a quick and dirty google search on the subject for us...? might be interesting to compare/compile Santorum's views on health care and social safety net spending for all these rape victims he wants to inflict unwanted pregnancies on.

and for a bonus round we'll cover Christ's messge to succor the poor no matter the cost with Santorums 'f*ck the poor' philosophy and see just how Christian mr. Santorum really is....

From his site:

2012 Presidential Plan

Repeal ObamaCare
Strengthen patient-driven health coverage options such as Health Savings Accounts coupled with high deductible insurance plans (and repeal ObamaCare policies that gut such options)
Reduce costs through competition, increased transparency, electronic records, and health care literacy - empowering patients and their doctors with information and options
Allow patients to purchase health insurance across state lines to gain access to the best insurance coverage to fit their individual needs - patients shouldn't be required to pay for (and subsidize for others) coverage for services they don't want or need
Allow those who purchase their own health care coverage to do so with pre-tax dollars, including a refundable tax-credit for the purchase of health coverage (so that employees are not tied to jobs solely for health coverage, but have portability of affordable coverage)
Enact meaningful medical liability reform - to increase access, and reduce added costs and inefficiencies from defensive medicine for federal programs and incentivize state liability reforms
Block-grant Medicaid so that states aren't burdened by unfunded, crippling, one-size-fits-all federal mandates, so that states can implement solutions to address their unique health care needs

Soooooo, yeah--the health savings account. Save your cash before you're raped and you'll be fine.

Well at least he's consistent. I never understood the "pro-life except for rape" people.

Mugato: Well at least he's consistent. I never understood the "pro-life except for rape" people.

i've never understood the 'pro-life/pro-death penalty' people myself. either all life is sacred or it's not. no exceptions for anyone.

Weaver95: Mugato: Well at least he's consistent. I never understood the "pro-life except for rape" people.

i've never understood the 'pro-life/pro-death penalty' people myself. either all life is sacred or it's not. no exceptions for anyone.

I never understood pro-life and anti-universal health care. The make sure they're born then fark 'em position.

Weaver95: the people running around calling themselves 'christian' today don't act like christ told his followers to act.

I would pretend to be Christian if they started acting like Jesus Christ. And not that whiny Christ that couldn't stay in his cave for more than three days. The one that helped people and tried to organize against "vipers of profit".

jaylectricity: I would pretend to be Christian if they started acting like Jesus Christ. And not that whiny Christ that couldn't stay in his cave for more than three days

i thought that was lazarus. should catch up on the bybul.

Mugato: Well at least he's consistent. I never understood the "pro-life except for rape" people.

It makes sense if the pro-life position is basically "Women who have sex should suffer the consequences." The rape wasn't her fault, so she doesn't have to be punished.

Mugato: Well at least he's consistent. I never understood the "pro-life except for rape" people.

Frankly, it's none of our business how a woman chooses to handle her situation, but I believe that particular position is a matter of gray in an often black & white debate.

And DIAF, Santorum. I hope no one you love ever has to bear the weight of such a decision, you unfeeling, inhumane, ignorant, awful little man.

Di Atribe: And DIAF, Santorum. I hope no one you love ever has to bear the weight of such a decision, you unfeeling, inhumane, ignorant, awful little man.

Didn't his wife have an abortion or something when they were younger?

Here's the thread about it. (new window)

jaylectricity: Didn't his wife have an abortion or something when they were younger?

What a horrible thing for any mother to have to endure. You'd think such an experience would've instilled some sort of compassion in him. Maybe some sort of "everyone who seeks out an abortion is not a filthy whore" type of thinking. Fresh outta luck on that one, I guess.