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2012-01-23 11:09:22 PM  

Corvus: NateGrey: They are eating their own:

Since when is Free Republic a place where longtime CONSERVATIVE members are censored because they disagree in a PRIMARY CONTEST?

When the GOP nominates their man, he will get my support.

Until then, I am entitled to my opinion of Newt Gingrich.

Actually I have herd the Freep does this shiat a lot. The delete posts that don't follow what they want.


Hell in my experience they delete usernames that don't follow what they want. I made an account that got permabanned before I could even make a single post.
 
2012-01-23 11:12:03 PM  

that bosnian sniper: Corvus: NateGrey: They are eating their own:

Since when is Free Republic a place where longtime CONSERVATIVE members are censored because they disagree in a PRIMARY CONTEST?

When the GOP nominates their man, he will get my support.

Until then, I am entitled to my opinion of Newt Gingrich.

Actually I have herd the Freep does this shiat a lot. The delete posts that don't follow what they want.

Hell in my experience they delete usernames that don't follow what they want. I made an account that got permabanned before I could even make a single post.


lol what was it. Obama2012?
 
2012-01-23 11:13:59 PM  

NateGrey: lol what was it. Obama2012?


Been years ago and I never got to use it, so I'm not entirely sure. Something like truecon4goodgov or something.
 
2012-01-23 11:15:34 PM  

Ricardo Klement: Carth: Ricardo Klement: Carth:
If Beijing decides to attack Taiwan there is nothing we can do to stop them. There hasn't been for the last 5 years since the battle would be over before we could even reach the island.

What makes you say that? At the moment, they only have the sea-lift for about 100k. Taiwan can get 250k to any beach in less than a day.

I did China analysis with a focus on PLA modernization efforts for my last job so pardon the acronyms . Short version: Chinese special forces and missile capabilities have advanced so much since the Taiwan Missile crisis Beijing could disable most of the island in under 48 hours. Occupation and containment would take longer obviously but ROC's ability to mount a credible resistance wouldn't last long. The PLAAF J-XX and the PLAN aircraft carrier development don't really have much play in a Taiwan Scenario the key things to watch are their Asymmetric and area denial capabilities designed to keep the US out of any conflict for about a week and their missile and special forces designed to subdue any resistance in 72 hours.

In addition, the MSS and PLA DII has infiltrated so much of the ROC's C4ISR that their response to a full scale attack would be severely damaged. This if of course contingent upon Beijing going for a scorched earth policy where they are willing to retake Taiwan by any means necessary which I can't imagine happening unless Taiwan announces they are considering developing nuclear weapons.

I did China analysis with a focus on the Naval aspect of the contingency. If China's specops can subdue a 250k man army, the US is doing something terribly wrong to be unable to do the same to its enemies. The SEALs are good, but they sure as heck can't hold a much less capable Afghanistan on their own.

It takes so little to prevent an occupation force from landing it's not even funny. How's China's minesweeping?

Unless you're postulating Taiwan chooses not to fight.


Why would they need to occupy Taiwan assuming the goal is to prevent Taiwan from declaring Independence or obtaining nuclear weapons? In a crisis scenario you have to assume the DPP is in control since the KMT, PFP and NP all support eventual reunification and would never declare independence or try to obtain nuclear missiles. Beijing's goal would be to threaten full scale war but use targeted missile strikes and special forces to destroy the C4ISR and use the PLA DII and MSS to lead a coup to install a more favorable government lead by one of the other political parties. The rank and file military would be (ideally) untouched. Beijing wouldn't want to completely level an island full of what it considers its people, domestically they would lose almost as much face as if they did nothing.
 
2012-01-23 11:16:28 PM  

bobbette: Debate's winning moments:

1. Santorum's Venezuela-Cuba-Iran-Al Qaeda bases 90 miles off the coast of America. But he hates theocracy!

2. "They no speak English"

3. Castro's afterlife destination options

3. Mitt got the claws out and had attacks on Newt's lobbying days and Speaker's record ready - much more on the offensive this time.

I'd say, realistically, the actual winner here in terms of this race would have been Mitt Romney - if he hadn't taken every single opportunity to remind the audience that he is the 0.01%. So, the winner is Ron Paul. Goodnight, everyone!


You have two number 3s. You no speak English well.
 
2012-01-23 11:20:25 PM  

Ricardo Klement: relcec: Ricardo Klement: relcec: Ricardo Klement: relcec:
quid pro quo.
stop all arms sales to Taiwan and broker a reunification deal if they offer to let the yuan float.
then get out of all asia except for diego garcia.

Nice of you to be willing to sell out a group of people. Woodrow Wilson is rolling over in his grave.

we're supposed to start World War 3 to NOT save 23 million chinese from becoming part of china?
we cannot stop it.
it is not our f*cking business.
we might as well get some jobs out of not stopping the inevtiable and not starting WW3.
and get the f*ck out of the rest of asia while we are at it.
that is selling anyone out.
that is butting the F*CK OUT.

How very Chamberlain of you.

you know, Taiwan just might not be Czechoslovakia.
Rommel will not get all of his 11th panzer division from the Taiwan armory.
Hitler will not get another year to rearm.
The Germans will not gain access to the Skoda Arms Works in Taiwan.
And Ribbentrop will not subsequently be able to sign the Nazi-Sino alliance because we DECIDE TO BUT THE F*CK OUT OF THAT TINY ISLANDS BUSINESS.

Yeah - like the problem with Chamberlain is only because he should have known Hitler was going to do all that.


I just don't think your analogies make much sense.
is this is some kind of domino theory, did you mentioned chamberlain because appeasement will set the ball rolling?
if china has world domination on it's mind why do you think it matters if we let them have taiwan or not?
are there some massive oil deposits there?
wouldn't it be better to fight it out with the japanese help between japan and china, in the sea of japan, with japan's radar and 15 modern fighter squadrons and a dozen aegis cruisers or whatever has?
would it not make more sense to get some of our jobs back and some of our trade balance in order, by in essence, selling back there own island to them first?
what do we even get out of this deal with Taiwan?
you make no sense, man.

if you are worried about China, then this is stupid. if you are not afraid of them, then the Chamberlain comment was stupid.
 
2012-01-23 11:26:21 PM  

Corvus: I read that as "More likely he'll take Viagra". Which is probably much more likely.


Probably more likely than Virginia, anyway.

Both more likely than Florida.
 
2012-01-23 11:28:30 PM  
Hey, you farking tards. The Federal Reserve is taking money from the taxpayer and then lending it back to.... the taxpayer, with interest.

The federal reserve is robbing you.

How come no one gives a shiat?
 
2012-01-23 11:29:23 PM  

cameroncrazy1984: EsteeFlwrPot: cameroncrazy1984: EsteeFlwrPot: Sorry guys but I think Paul makes a lot of sense. Definitely more sense than the other 3

That's because you're about as nuts as he is.

HA if you think i'm nuts you should meet my boyfriend.

Is your boyfriend Israel?


No, my boyfriend is not a middle eastern country.
 
2012-01-23 11:37:05 PM  
I'm late to the party here, but all I have to say is that I concluded tonight that if, by some distant stretch of the imagination, Newt Gingrich manages to get himself elected president, I'm getting the hell out of Florida before he manages to start a shooting war with Cuba.

I think he's crazy enough to do it.
 
2012-01-23 11:41:27 PM  

rynthetyn: I'm late to the party here, but all I have to say is that I concluded tonight that if, by some distant stretch of the imagination, Newt Gingrich manages to get himself elected president, I'm getting the hell out of Florida before he manages to start a shooting war with Cuba.

I think he's crazy enough to do it.


Do you think Canada will take me as a political refugee?

/I'll take Harper over any of the tards running on the GOP ticket.
 
2012-01-23 11:42:35 PM  

epoc_tnac: Hey, you farking tards. The Federal Reserve is taking money from the taxpayer and then lending it back to.... the taxpayer, with interest.

The federal reserve is robbing you.

How come no one gives a shiat?


Dude, go back to Reddit.

Nobody here is buying your starry-eyed RONPAUL bullshiat.
 
2012-01-23 11:46:44 PM  

Mrtraveler01: rynthetyn: I'm late to the party here, but all I have to say is that I concluded tonight that if, by some distant stretch of the imagination, Newt Gingrich manages to get himself elected president, I'm getting the hell out of Florida before he manages to start a shooting war with Cuba.

I think he's crazy enough to do it.

Do you think Canada will take me as a political refugee?

/I'll take Harper over any of the tards running on the GOP ticket.


I don't know, but I've already got an offer to move to India. I could probably also use my connections to get a work visa for Vietnam without much trouble, but I don't thing running off to Vietnam if we get into a war with Cuba would help my future political aspirations very much.
 
2012-01-23 11:47:48 PM  

NateGrey: They are eating their own:

Since when is Free Republic a place where longtime CONSERVATIVE members are censored because they disagree in a PRIMARY CONTEST?

When the GOP nominates their man, he will get my support.

Until then, I am entitled to my opinion of Newt Gingrich.


In 2007-8, they banned anyone who supported McCain or Guiliani or Paul.

This year, it's anyone who supported Pawlenty or Romney. I think they sort of just ignore Paul supporters this year. Freepers are worse purity trolls than FireDogLake.
 
2012-01-23 11:48:17 PM  
Crap - I missed it. Anyone want to fill me in?

Gingrich: I didn't do it, nobody saw me do it, you can't prove anything, and anyway I never went to jail for it.
Santorum: I'm the most Republicany Republican EVER and these other guys aren;t giving me my due, and they;re all a bunch of poopy-heads!
Romney: That's not what I said! And.. uh... America! Or something.
RON PAUL: When *I* was in the Army... also, "I'm a doctor"
 
2012-01-23 11:48:42 PM  

Ricardo Klement: Ron Paul is the biggest moron up there. And that's saying something.


Helpful tip in life: if you call someone an idiot despite them being right about practically everything, then you have lost the right to cast doubt on anyone's intellect other than your own.

You can disagree with him philosophically, but attacking his principles (as some have done) or his intellect (as your are doing) is just sad.
 
2012-01-23 11:48:50 PM  
i.imgur.com
 
2012-01-23 11:49:14 PM  

theknuckler_33: I may never be able to have a root beer float ever again. Thanks a lot, asshole!


Also, "thanks a lot, asshole" is often said when Santorum makes an unexpected and inconvenient appearance
 
2012-01-23 11:50:49 PM  

epoc_tnac: Hey, you farking tards. The Federal Reserve is taking money from the taxpayer and then lending it back to.... the taxpayer, with interest.

The federal reserve is robbing you.

How come no one gives a shiat?


You're just jealous you didn't come up with the idea first.
 
2012-01-23 11:51:28 PM  

epoc_tnac: Hey, you farking tards. The Federal Reserve is taking money from the taxpayer and then lending it back to.... the taxpayer, with interest.

The federal reserve is robbing you.

How come no one gives a shiat?


Ron Paul supporter in a nutshell, ladies and gentlemen.
 
2012-01-23 11:51:41 PM  

Tor_Eckman: epoc_tnac: Hey, you farking tards. The Federal Reserve is taking money from the taxpayer and then lending it back to.... the taxpayer, with interest.

The federal reserve is robbing you.

How come no one gives a shiat?

Dude, go back to Reddit.

Nobody here is buying your starry-eyed RONPAUL bullshiat.


I don't give a fark about ron paul, I am more interested in how the government lent the federal reserve billions of dollars, below the dollar rate, and the fed loaned it back to the government with interest.

If you had anything approaching justice in your country, people would be seeing life sentences for the shady shiat that went on. The fact that they're not indicates that your legal system is farked.
 
2012-01-23 11:58:02 PM  

BSABSVR: Ron Paul supporter in a nutshell, ladies and gentlemen.


So your government lends 7 trillion to the banks.... who don't pay it back.... and you want to attack the messenger.

Well fark it, fark your country. If you are that farking willingly ignorant, then you deserve what you get. If you don't even know that the government gave 7 trillion dollars in secret, 7,000,000,000 dollars that you don't even care about, yet 7 trillion dollars that you will be held responsible for, then fark you for being an ignorant coont. You have no excuses.
 
2012-01-23 11:59:50 PM  

Benevolent Misanthrope: Crap - I missed it. Anyone want to fill me in?

Gingrich: I didn't do it, nobody saw me do it, you can't prove anything, and anyway I never went to jail for it.
Santorum: I'm the most Republicany Republican EVER and these other guys aren;t giving me my due, and they;re all a bunch of poopy-heads!
Romney: That's not what I said! And.. uh... America! Or something.
RON PAUL: When *I* was in the Army... also, "I'm a doctor"


I saw like 3 minutes. I think gingrich said he will deploy our special forces to cuba for a nice regime change. I shiat you not. literal insanity.
 
2012-01-24 12:02:45 AM  

relcec: Benevolent Misanthrope: Crap - I missed it. Anyone want to fill me in?

Gingrich: I didn't do it, nobody saw me do it, you can't prove anything, and anyway I never went to jail for it.
Santorum: I'm the most Republicany Republican EVER and these other guys aren;t giving me my due, and they;re all a bunch of poopy-heads!
Romney: That's not what I said! And.. uh... America! Or something.
RON PAUL: When *I* was in the Army... also, "I'm a doctor"

I saw like 3 minutes. I think gingrich said he will deploy our special forces to cuba for a nice regime change. I shiat you not. literal insanity.


You seem shocked that the current crop of GOP candidates are trying to compete one another for saying the most stupid thing possible.
 
2012-01-24 12:11:23 AM  

Mrtraveler01: relcec: Benevolent Misanthrope: Crap - I missed it. Anyone want to fill me in?

Gingrich: I didn't do it, nobody saw me do it, you can't prove anything, and anyway I never went to jail for it.
Santorum: I'm the most Republicany Republican EVER and these other guys aren;t giving me my due, and they;re all a bunch of poopy-heads!
Romney: That's not what I said! And.. uh... America! Or something.
RON PAUL: When *I* was in the Army... also, "I'm a doctor"

I saw like 3 minutes. I think gingrich said he will deploy our special forces to cuba for a nice regime change. I shiat you not. literal insanity.

You seem shocked that the current crop of GOP candidates are trying to compete one another for saying the most stupid thing possible.


I'm sure it'll go over quite well when a Cuban plane manages to make it past US defenses and drops bombs on downtown Miami. And doesn't Cuba have missiles that could hit Florida? They might be old and rusty, but I don't think Newt has come anywhere close to thinking his cunning plan all the way through.
 
2012-01-24 12:11:35 AM  

relcec:
I saw like 3 minutes. I think gingrich said he will deploy our special forces to cuba for a nice regime change. I shiat you not. literal insanity.


Literal insanity is bailing out the banks in secret for 10 times what was declared in public, and no one giving a shiat.

Literal insanity describes your whole system right now. Ron Paul can choke on a dick as far as I am concerned - Your country gave 7 trillion to the banks in secret.

That's $23,000 per person.

You guys are farked. You think your student loans are painful? That's nothing compared to the loans you owe as a country.

You guys are farked beyond belief.
 
2012-01-24 12:19:55 AM  
i935.photobucket.com
This ain't no foolin' around.
 
2012-01-24 12:20:33 AM  

epoc_tnac: You guys are farked.


The important thing is that you've found a way to feel superior to everyone else.
 
2012-01-24 12:21:41 AM  

dehehn: [i935.photobucket.com image 324x324]
This ain't no foolin' around.


This is not my beautiful gold standard!
This is not my beautiful newsletter!
 
2012-01-24 12:26:52 AM  

socratesthekidd: But so yeah, jokes aside, "just move to somewhere you like better" is absurd.


ushistoryimages.com
 
2012-01-24 12:33:17 AM  

epoc_tnac: BSABSVR: Ron Paul supporter in a nutshell, ladies and gentlemen.

So your government lends 7 trillion to the banks.... who don't pay it back.... and you want to attack the messenger.

Well fark it, fark your country. If you are that farking willingly ignorant, then you deserve what you get. If you don't even know that the government gave 7 trillion dollars in secret, 7,000,000,000 dollars that you don't even care about, yet 7 trillion dollars that you will be held responsible for, then fark you for being an ignorant coont. You have no excuses.


Oh and you started with "farking tards"

And you're upset with "attacking the messenger"? Do you not actually read what you write? I hate to repeat myself, but:

Ron Paul supporter in a nutshell, ladies and gentlemen.
 
2012-01-24 12:33:35 AM  

NewportBarGuy: A Dark Evil Omen: I hope the bastards all kill each other.

Come on. Then who is Fartbama going to roundhouse kick in the debates? We need* these useless idiots!

/*like we need an asshole on our elbow.


An asshole on your left elbow would be kind of handy. You would't have to stop the car to poop.
 
2012-01-24 12:37:59 AM  

Jim_Tressel's_O-Face: epoc_tnac: You guys are farked.

The important thing is that you've found a way to feel superior to everyone else.


The Ron Paul internet supporter in 9 words: "Why won't you worthless sheeple listen to my point?"
 
2012-01-24 12:42:00 AM  
http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/01/24/us-usa-campaign-romney-taxes -idUSTRE80N06U20120124
 
2012-01-24 12:51:34 AM  

BSABSVR: Jim_Tressel's_O-Face: epoc_tnac: You guys are farked.

The important thing is that you've found a way to feel superior to everyone else.

The Ron Paul internet supporter in 9 words: "Why won't you worthless sheeple listen to my point?"


My favorite part is the fact they love to spout off shiat most of us who pay attention to political economy filed under "shiat we already know" years ago as if it were somehow news. It's like a teenager discovering led zepplin. Then comes the ear-farkingly stupid policy positions that no sane person would ever seriously entertain, like restoring the gold standard.
 
2012-01-24 01:02:22 AM  

Mrtraveler01: relcec: Benevolent Misanthrope: Crap - I missed it. Anyone want to fill me in?

Gingrich: I didn't do it, nobody saw me do it, you can't prove anything, and anyway I never went to jail for it.
Santorum: I'm the most Republicany Republican EVER and these other guys aren;t giving me my due, and they;re all a bunch of poopy-heads!
Romney: That's not what I said! And.. uh... America! Or something.
RON PAUL: When *I* was in the Army... also, "I'm a doctor"

I saw like 3 minutes. I think gingrich said he will deploy our special forces to cuba for a nice regime change. I shiat you not. literal insanity.

You seem shocked that the current crop of GOP candidates are trying to compete one another for saying the most stupid thing possible.


I'm confused at this point. that's not even something that would make sense on a video game. I want out. I think I may have to give paul some cash.
 
2012-01-24 01:03:28 AM  

epoc_tnac: relcec:
I saw like 3 minutes. I think gingrich said he will deploy our special forces to cuba for a nice regime change. I shiat you not. literal insanity.

Literal insanity is bailing out the banks in secret for 10 times what was declared in public, and no one giving a shiat.

Literal insanity describes your whole system right now. Ron Paul can choke on a dick as far as I am concerned - Your country gave 7 trillion to the banks in secret.

That's $23,000 per person.

You guys are farked. You think your student loans are painful? That's nothing compared to the loans you owe as a country.

You guys are farked beyond belief.


why are you yelling at me? I do the yelling here.
 
2012-01-24 01:04:34 AM  

that bosnian sniper: My favorite part is the fact they love to spout off shiat most of us who pay attention to political economy filed under "shiat we already know" years ago as if it were somehow news. It's like a teenager discovering led zepplin


I heart this analogy.

Then comes the ear-farkingly stupid policy positions that no sane person would ever seriously entertain, like restoring the gold standard.

Terrible policy ideas that tend to get defended by saying things like "so why do you hate freedom?"

In 2007-8 it was "what do you know about Ron Paul?" and "So which candidate will you vote for that offers you liberty?"

It reminds me of the answers that Amway salesmen are supposed to give when asked if they are Amway salesmen
 
2012-01-24 01:06:40 AM  

Johnny Bananapeel: [i.imgur.com image 345x628]


How is Mitt not Thurston Howell? Making him the professor is too much credit.
 
2012-01-24 01:09:10 AM  
The Right tells me that Obama is a snobby, wealthy elitist. That he's a divisive, lecturing pseudo-intellectual. That he's a religious extremist pursuing theocracy, and that he's disconnected from reality and can't offer up any realistic or workable ideas.

And then they suggest Romney, Gingrich, Santorum and Ron Paul as replacements.

You can't make this shiat up...
 
2012-01-24 01:20:13 AM  

mahuika:
Sure! Which rule are you going by? I have to limit myself to three rules, as it's a work night, after all.

-A rich person is referred to as a "job creator"
---2 sips if they are the rich person

-Founding fathers are mentioned
--Two sips if they are grossly misinterpreted or it is insinuated they were extremely Christian

-Ronald Reagan
--Two sips if they mention Sarah Palin in the same sentence


Fark me, are you trying to kill us all with alcohol poisoning?
 
2012-01-24 01:21:19 AM  

epoc_tnac: So Ron Paul would encourage people to move to a state they prefer. Is that really a bad thing?


This would work until a state makes it a crime to leave the state to get an abortion. Or get gay married.

/IIRC one state floated the former as a "if Roe V Wade is overturned we'll do this, actually...
 
2012-01-24 01:36:31 AM  
On my cable box the show description of the debate was one for the show "Fear Factor", I felt it oddly appropriate.
 
2012-01-24 01:43:39 AM  

wolvernova: Ricardo Klement: Ron Paul is the biggest moron up there. And that's saying something.

Helpful tip in life: if you call someone an idiot despite them being right about practically everything, then you have lost the right to cast doubt on anyone's intellect other than your own.

You can disagree with him philosophically, but attacking his principles (as some have done) or his intellect (as your are doing) is just sad.


Really? You are saying he is brilliant because he said peace in the Middle East will be short-lived? Wow-the man truly is a genius. What else did he predict? Aha! Oil prices would go up. Well, Christ, the man epitomizes the infinite intellect of a Nostradamus. What else? Oh! He predicted the US would help rebuild places we bombed! Unprecedented! I bet that we would all be lucky to Marshall Plan the kind of brainpower he jas so we could make stunning prognostications as well.

And next on his calvacade of fortune-telling? That "some of our allies" will be overthrown by fundamentalists, and the video helpfully shows the wikipedia page for Arab Spring. Ah, yes, allies are having protests and revolets, like Syria, Egypt, and Libya. Well, one out of three is pretty darn great in baseball, amirite?

Wow. You're right! The man is pure GENIUS!

What's next? Ah, yes, Iraq - the "largest" war since WWII - except in men, materiel, casualties, extent, and mobilization. But it was, in fact, longer, so I guess there does exist SOME metric in which it wasn't laughably wrong. Einstein? Plato? Hawkins? Morons in comparison.

Jesus- when he's not making obvious predictions (gee, someone was going to file an ICC complaint? Has Ron Paul picked lottery numbers?) he's making incredibly broad ones. Gold "back to historic highs as money"? Here's a prediction every economist on the planet will tell you: people will purchase commodities when they fear inflation. Wonderful. Paul predicted what every undergrad econ minor would tell you. Gee, he predicted a recession? There's only one every ten years. The man's mind is truly a beautiful one.

What the hell are you, 16? Uneducated? Did you cheat your way through college? Because those are the three basic explanations for your utter FAIL.
 
2012-01-24 01:44:49 AM  

bigbadideasinaction: epoc_tnac: So Ron Paul would encourage people to move to a state they prefer. Is that really a bad thing?

This would work until a state makes it a crime to leave the state to get an abortion. Or get gay married.

/IIRC one state floated the former as a "if Roe V Wade is overturned we'll do this, actually...


Between differing state drug laws and immigration rules, Ron Paul would have every single state border just as militarized and monitored as our border with Mexico.

/Ron Paul presidency: Enjoy your summer roadtrip across America, now with all the fun of having to show your papers at armed checkpoints
//he might be consistent and principled, but the problem is that his principles haven't been relevant or practical since WWII
 
2012-01-24 01:54:17 AM  

bigbadideasinaction: epoc_tnac: So Ron Paul would encourage people to move to a state they prefer. Is that really a bad thing?

This would work until a state makes it a crime to leave the state to get an abortion. Or get gay married.

/IIRC one state floated the former as a "if Roe V Wade is overturned we'll do this, actually...


Think of the employment opportunities at the state vag inspectors office though.
 
2012-01-24 02:22:11 AM  

tenpoundsofcheese: Communist_Manifesto: seventypercent: tenpoundsofcheese: WhyteRaven74: tenpoundsofcheese: gas was 1.60/gallon on 1/10/09

Not around here it wasn't.

well, then too bad that Newt or Mitt didn't specifically address your area. But that was the average in the country. YMMV.

Just out of curiosity, do you know what gas prices were like in July of 2008?

They definitely weren't 5$ a gallon because that would ruin his argument. His cherry picked date is the real benchmark date, don't you see that?

Nope. Gas prices doubled under Obama. The prices in July of 2008 (cherry picked date) or Dec 1934 (another cherry picked date) are completely irrelevant.


The only two dates are January 2009 and January 2012. Deal with it.


I just wanted to refresh this little nugget of insanity from Tenpounds because I believe it's important we all know that apparently he's able to now manipulate time.

So everyone, please remember that if there are some pesky facts or statistics that get in your way of making a coherent, reasoned argument to support your position? Just do away with those points in time that are giving you trouble
 
2012-01-24 02:29:12 AM  
showed up for the Fear Factor thread. What did I miss?
 
2012-01-24 02:39:36 AM  

Ricardo Klement: wolvernova: Ricardo Klement: Ron Paul is the biggest moron up there. And that's saying something.

Helpful tip in life: if you call someone an idiot despite them being right about practically everything, then you have lost the right to cast doubt on anyone's intellect other than your own.

You can disagree with him philosophically, but attacking his principles (as some have done) or his intellect (as your are doing) is just sad.

Really? You are saying he is brilliant because he said peace in the Middle East will be short-lived? Wow-the man truly is a genius. What else did he predict? Aha! Oil prices would go up. Well, Christ, the man epitomizes the infinite intellect of a Nostradamus. What else? Oh! He predicted the US would help rebuild places we bombed! Unprecedented! I bet that we would all be lucky to Marshall Plan the kind of brainpower he jas so we could make stunning prognostications as well.

And next on his calvacade of fortune-telling? That "some of our allies" will be overthrown by fundamentalists, and the video helpfully shows the wikipedia page for Arab Spring. Ah, yes, allies are having protests and revolets, like Syria, Egypt, and Libya. Well, one out of three is pretty darn great in baseball, amirite?

Wow. You're right! The man is pure GENIUS!

What's next? Ah, yes, Iraq - the "largest" war since WWII - except in men, materiel, casualties, extent, and mobilization. But it was, in fact, longer, so I guess there does exist SOME metric in which it wasn't laughably wrong. Einstein? Plato? Hawkins? Morons in comparison.

Jesus- when he's not making obvious predictions (gee, someone was going to file an ICC complaint? Has Ron Paul picked lottery numbers?) he's making incredibly broad ones. Gold "back to historic highs as money"? Here's a prediction every economist on the planet will tell you: people will purchase commodities when they fear inflation. Wonderful. Paul predicted what every undergrad econ minor would tell you. G ...







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Ricardo Klement: what_now: OUR NAVY IS TOO SMALL!!!


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China's military forces seriously outnumber ours. To what do you attribute that?


They have over a billion farking people in their country. We have ~.3 billion. They could have literally twice the amount of people in their army and still have fewer per capita.
 
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