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(The Tennessean)   Headline: "Mayor wants gigantic cross for city." With helpful photo of what a mayor who wants a gigantic cross for his city looks like   (tennessean.com ) divider line
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2012-01-23 08:38:35 PM  
Honestly though... it would make it easier to find the movie theater. the only good one since Opry Mills got flooded out...otherwise why the hell would I bother to drive to Mt. Juliet?
 
2012-01-23 08:39:33 PM  

buckler: While not everyone in town embraces Christianity, Hale said a lot of citizens do, and a lot of local churches are true to the gospel.

Or his particular personal interpretation of it, which just happens to completely line up with his own personal opinions. Those other churches just teach crap.


This sentiment can be very annoying, or at least inconvenient. Whenever I visit my family, I always have a terrible time remembering which things I am supposed to pretend to believe around them and which are heretical liberal anti-biblical modernism.

I've gotten very good at changing the subject.
 
2012-01-23 08:41:12 PM  
Perhaps he has a giant Jesus to crucify and wants to be prepared?
 
2012-01-23 08:42:22 PM  
I think therefore I am, an atheist: (new window) "You know you're a bit nuts when even the pastor is saying that your Christian roadside attraction is a bit too much"
 
2012-01-23 08:42:57 PM  
What are they going to do, Crucify king-kong?
 
2012-01-23 08:43:03 PM  
FTFA: "You go by a lot of big shopping areas, and you don't see that," he said. "You see only commerce.

"I don't think that's what the people of Mt. Juliet are. I don't want to minimize commerce, but there are other things that are important."


Yep, the giant cross will definitely downplay your commitment to the local economy and jobs.
 
2012-01-23 08:43:07 PM  

xl5150: Big deal. A mayor in a town in a Christian nation based on Christian ideals wants to put a Christian symbol up, and he doesn't even want to use public funds to do it. Can someone please explain why this is a big deal, or are we just trying hard to find things to become outraged about as usual?


7 posts before Poe's Law kicked in. Not bad.
 
2012-01-23 08:44:02 PM  
Right now, it's just his personal wish, and he's not going to use taxpayer money.

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2012-01-23 08:47:17 PM  

Happy Hours: Antimatter: xl5150: Big deal. A mayor in a town in a Christian nation based on Christian ideals wants to put a Christian symbol up, and he doesn't even want to use public funds to do it. Can someone please explain why this is a big deal, or are we just trying hard to find things to become outraged about as usual?

Shameless showings of faith are not Christian ideas. Feeding the hungry, tending to the sick and imprisoned, caring for the poor, those things are.

Are you a Christian? More specifically are you a Christian living in Mt. Juliet?

So what if a town that is likely predominantly Christian wants to place a symbol of their faith without using public funds and desire a mega-church. It's their right to be hypocrites if that's what it makes them.

If a largely Jewish town wants a Star of David or a largely Muslim town wants a crescent they can have it too.

Is it that you feel that this would be shoving Christianity in your face even though I'd bet you'll never go anywhere near that town?


Shoving their faith in peoples faces is exactly the point in this. There is no other reason for such an act.
 
2012-01-23 08:48:02 PM  

CravenMorehead: Perhaps he has a giant Jesus to crucify and wants to be prepared?


Watch out, Rio!

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2012-01-23 08:48:20 PM  

marius2: "You know you're a bit nuts when even the pastor is saying that your Christian roadside attraction is a bit too much"


This reminds me of one time when I was in Minnesota, I saw a billboard for 'Christian Paintball'. I was trying to figure out how that worked. No one I asked had ever been there, but all knew where it was.
 
2012-01-23 08:49:56 PM  

Arachnophobe: marius2: "You know you're a bit nuts when even the pastor is saying that your Christian roadside attraction is a bit too much"

This reminds me of one time when I was in Minnesota, I saw a billboard for 'Christian Paintball'. I was trying to figure out how that worked. No one I asked had ever been there, but all knew where it was.


So they pray before playing war? And then a potluck afterwords.

/bring a covered dish
//fruit inside a jello mold
 
2012-01-23 08:51:06 PM  
People want to nationalize a religious system that inherently declares every other religion "wrong". In other words, they want the USA to adopt a hostile posture towards five billion people on the planet (assuming their are a billion xtians).

And they wonder why we think they're stupid.
 
G2V
2012-01-23 08:51:10 PM  

Antimatter:

Shameless showings of faith are not Christian ideas. Feeding the hungry, tending to the sick and imprisoned, caring for the poor, those things are.


Also murdering caanite infants and livestock. Don't forget.
 
2012-01-23 08:51:42 PM  
Mt. Juliet sucks anyways, building a megachurch with an enormous cross on it by the side of the interstate isn't going to change that. And the only reason they've been making so much revenue recently is because Opry Mills has been rebuilding for the last 2 years.
 
2012-01-23 08:52:12 PM  
That is such a stupid idea.

Why doesn't he make a whole bunch of regular size crosses and line Interstate 40 with the non-believers?

Duh.
 
2012-01-23 08:52:48 PM  
Could it be any worse than what we will soon have in Downtown Dallas?
http://vimeo.com/16825514 (new window)

/likes Dallas
//dislikes FBD
///hates the needless waste of water
 
2012-01-23 08:52:56 PM  
Andy Hale, pastor of First Baptist Church Mt. Juliet, said he appreciated the mayor's desire for Mt. Juliet to be a Christian community, but he said churches leading people to Christian lives was more important than any symbol.

That'll draw a nice round of hate mail and death threats
 
2012-01-23 08:53:15 PM  

Coelacanth: If Mayor Ed Hagerty wants to do God's work, he should try feeding the hungry, housing the homeless, and tending to the sick. The only thing a big cross will do for your community is show people where the hypocrites live.


And gives the terrists a bullseye! "Hey Apu, x marks the spot!"
 
2012-01-23 08:54:49 PM  

xl5150: Big deal. A mayor in a town in a Christian nation based on Christian ideals wants to put a Christian symbol up, and he doesn't even want to use public funds to do it. Can someone please explain why this is a big deal, or are we just trying hard to find things to become outraged about as usual?


We're just tired of assholes. It gets old.
 
2012-01-23 08:55:04 PM  
FTFA:He said he wants to see a megachurch similar to Bellevue Baptist or Two Rivers in Nashville that could draw large crowds to the city on Sundays and benefit local businesses.

i224.photobucket.com
 
2012-01-23 08:55:07 PM  

jaytkay: Andy Hale, pastor of First Baptist Church Mt. Juliet, said he appreciated the mayor's desire for Mt. Juliet to be a Christian community, but he said churches leading people to Christian lives was more important than any symbol.

That'll draw a nice round of hate mail and death threats


Maybe someone will kill his cat with "NOT CHRISTIAN ENOUGH" written on it.
 
jvl
2012-01-23 08:58:00 PM  
Some people will do anything to become a True Demon.
 
2012-01-23 09:00:27 PM  

marius2: roadside attraction


Man, sometimes GIS is uncanny.

lh5.ggpht.com

/I prefer this over a cross
 
2012-01-23 09:00:49 PM  

Millions_Knives: And still no Robocop statue in Detroit?


It was stolen and sold for scrap.
 
2012-01-23 09:02:06 PM  

No Catchy Nickname: "I like that he's not afraid to speak about God," said Darlene Kemp, who works in Mt. Juliet.

Yeah, because so many Christians have been crucified for their faith in Tennessee.

Why no "Hero" tag, subby?


The scary thing is, fundamentalists really do see themselves as a persecuted minority, and therefore they really do see this is a brave act. Keep in mind that to the fundamentalist mindset, anyone who isn't one of them is (however unintentionally) doing Satan's work. Atheists, Hindus, Muslims, even Catholics and moderate Christians, are all The Enemy. From that point of view, they ARE a minority, and all efforts to resist their Dominionist goals are an attack on their faith. I'm sure Darlene Kemp was completely earnest.

Let me give you one example: I lived in Nepal for a couple of years. At the time, the official state religion was Hinduism, and there were laws against proselytizing, but there were also plenty of Buddhists, Christians, and Muslims living out their faith openly without trouble. I visited a few stupas, mosques, and churches while I was there. They were all right out in the open, without any kind of harassment.

When I came back to the United States and visited a church here, however, I ran into a Christian missionary who was going around from church to church preaching about the "oppression" of Christians in Nepal. I don't think he was deliberately lying, I think he honestly believed what he said, but I know from first-hand experience that much of what he was saying was highly exaggerated when not absolutely false. (By actively proselytizing, he was breaking the law, and any "oppression" he personally encountered must have sprung from that.) But the people he talked to ate it up. It confirmed their worldview in which Christianity, the world over, is fighting a desperate battle for survival against a conspiring international majority of non-believers.
 
2012-01-23 09:02:57 PM  

xl5150: Big deal. A mayor in a town in a Christian nation based on Christian ideals wants to put a Christian symbol up, and he doesn't even want to use public funds to do it. Can someone please explain why this is a big deal, or are we just trying hard to find things to become outraged about as usual?


The USA isn't a Christian nation, nor was it ever intended to be one.
 
2012-01-23 09:03:07 PM  

maldinero: dickfreckle: [cmsimg.tennessean.com image 140x197]

I have a Rentboy's pinky tickling my prostate right now

That's not the batshiat crazy mayor. That's the Baptist Pastor who said " ... he appreciated the mayor's desire for Mt. Juliet to be a Christian community, but he said churches leading people to Christian lives was more important than any symbol."


Ah, my bad.
 
2012-01-23 09:03:39 PM  
i.imgur.com
 
2012-01-23 09:03:49 PM  

Gunny Walker: FTFA:He said he wants to see a megachurch similar to Bellevue Baptist or Two Rivers in Nashville that could draw large crowds to the city on Sundays and benefit local businesses.

[i224.photobucket.com image 431x523]


Why the fark is 'Our lord' using a cat-of-nine-tails on the moneylenders in that picture? You can kill somebody with one of those.
 
2012-01-23 09:05:30 PM  
My cuz lives there, so I'm getting a kick...

/Will have to ask him about this
//He's abhors Xtian nonsense
///Should be a fun convo
 
2012-01-23 09:06:57 PM  

buckler: While not everyone in town embraces Christianity, Hale said a lot of citizens do, and a lot of local churches are true to the gospel.

Or his particular personal interpretation of it, which just happens to completely line up with his own personal opinions. Those other churches just teach crap.


There was some study done about people's personal moral/ethical views and their interpretation of their religion's holy text. (It may have been specifically American Christians, but I don't recall the details.) There was an *cough* "amazing" correlation between the two, as if everyone's personal moral code was exactly derived from their own personal understanding of their holy text.

Or, possibly a more cynical person might say that they had their own moral code first, and then interpreted their holy texts in a way that justified what they already believed. But I trust we are not such cynics as to assume such a negative interpretation must be the correct one.
 
2012-01-23 09:07:11 PM  

No Catchy Nickname: ...

Yeah, because so many Christians have been crucified for their faith in Tennessee.

...


It happens all the time.

img576.imageshack.us

And yes... moonshine is a religion. :P
 
2012-01-23 09:07:33 PM  
Good for him. Remind people where the True Source of our liberties.
 
2012-01-23 09:08:23 PM  

Relatively Obscure: They aren't penises, people.


Yes they are, not the cellphone towers or the signs. The peni are the peni that want this stuff
 
2012-01-23 09:09:44 PM  
Another asshole in charge who doesn't understand one of the basic principles upon which the country was founded. Maybe he should erect a giant copy of the constitution to remind him why he is farking wrong.
 
2012-01-23 09:09:59 PM  
It's Mt. Juliet. God doesn't pay attention to anything that happens there anyway.
 
2012-01-23 09:11:14 PM  

Coelacanth: Gunny Walker: FTFA:He said he wants to see a megachurch similar to Bellevue Baptist or Two Rivers in Nashville that could draw large crowds to the city on Sundays and benefit local businesses.

[i224.photobucket.com image 431x523]

Why the fark is 'Our lord' using a cat-of-nine-tails on the moneylenders in that picture? You can kill somebody with one of those.


Maybe it's a personal kink of his, or he missed his calling as a pirate captain.
 
2012-01-23 09:11:57 PM  

Arachnophobe: marius2: "You know you're a bit nuts when even the pastor is saying that your Christian roadside attraction is a bit too much"

This reminds me of one time when I was in Minnesota, I saw a billboard for 'Christian Paintball'. I was trying to figure out how that worked. No one I asked had ever been there, but all knew where it was.


They don't aim.
they Spray and Pray.
Duh!
 
2012-01-23 09:12:20 PM  

ciberido: buckler: While not everyone in town embraces Christianity, Hale said a lot of citizens do, and a lot of local churches are true to the gospel.

Or his particular personal interpretation of it, which just happens to completely line up with his own personal opinions. Those other churches just teach crap.

There was some study done about people's personal moral/ethical views and their interpretation of their religion's holy text. (It may have been specifically American Christians, but I don't recall the details.) There was an *cough* "amazing" correlation between the two, as if everyone's personal moral code was exactly derived from their own personal understanding of their holy text.

Or, possibly a more cynical person might say that they had their own moral code first, and then interpreted their holy texts in a way that justified what they already believed. But I trust we are not such cynics as to assume such a negative interpretation must be the correct one.


Oh, no...of course not. *cough*. Certainly not. No.
 
2012-01-23 09:13:10 PM  

johnny queso: Another asshole in charge who doesn't understand one of the basic principles upon which the country was founded. Maybe he should erect a giant copy of the constitution to remind him why he is farking wrong.


Huh?
 
2012-01-23 09:13:15 PM  

ciberido: xl5150: Big deal. A mayor in a town in a Christian nation based on Christian ideals wants to put a Christian symbol up, and he doesn't even want to use public funds to do it. Can someone please explain why this is a big deal, or are we just trying hard to find things to become outraged about as usual?

7 posts before Poe's Law kicked in. Not bad.


He's just a troll, I'm not sure that counts.
 
2012-01-23 09:13:31 PM  
Been done.

Edmond Oklahoma
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2012-01-23 09:14:40 PM  

Coelacanth: Gunny Walker: FTFA:He said he wants to see a megachurch similar to Bellevue Baptist or Two Rivers in Nashville that could draw large crowds to the city on Sundays and benefit local businesses.

[i224.photobucket.com image 431x523]

Why the fark is 'Our lord' using a cat-of-nine-tails on the moneylenders in that picture? You can kill somebody with one of those.


According to the Good Book, it's a scourge. Those often had sharp stones, bits of metal or glass tied into the knots. I think the infliction of serious injury coupled with the threat of killing was kind of the point.
 
2012-01-23 09:16:12 PM  

Relatively Obscure: They aren't penises, people.


Yes, yes they are.

NSFW (new window)
 
2012-01-23 09:16:25 PM  
From the look of the pic, Bradshaw isn't gonna take their shiat.
 
2012-01-23 09:17:34 PM  
whatever dumbass. and so it goes in the Kingdom of Heaven.
 
2012-01-23 09:18:08 PM  
i40.tinypic.com

Superman would frown on these shenanigans.
 
2012-01-23 09:18:40 PM  

ciberido: It confirmed their worldview in which Christianity, the world over, is fighting a desperate battle for survival against a conspiring international majority of non-believers.


I think that some Christians need the idea of "us vs. them" to galvanize their faith and flock. It's easy to rally people by leading them to believe that their way of life is being advanced upon by a highly organized, well-oiled force of evil. It's also much easier to imagine said forces of oppression than to admit that society is merely evolving past religion. Science got you down? Nah, that's just part of their wicked plan. ACLU not letting you mount the Ten Commandments? It's not the Bill of Rights, it's the forces of darkness descending on our flock.

It's a fantasy world that's hard to let go of, and imagining it as a battle of good and evil is a lot easier than confronting certain realities.
 
2012-01-23 09:24:00 PM  
www.aetheling.com
constantinessword.com


/Great documentary; there's a bit where he goes to a memorial for the Jews who died in a concentration camp and the memorial is marked by? A big farkin' cross.
 
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