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2012-01-23 09:22:51 PM

St_Francis_P: SnakeLee: In fairness to Santorum, that was more about not attacking a crazy lady than anything. I don't think Santorum thinks Obama is a Muslim or in office illegally from his answer.

He didn't lie, no. It's just that after being told repeatedly how moral and Christian this guy is, I'd expect a more substantial reply than, "Yeah, but what can you do?"


What's worse, Santorum's response wasn't "Yeah, but what can you do?" It was "Hey, I'm trying to get him out of office."

The truth of the matter is that Santorum is running a distant third in this race, and he is doing all that he can to get votes, even if it means pandering to the fanatics. It's kind of like when Jesus fed a crowd of 5,000 with five loaves and two fish, except with more pandering.
 
2012-01-23 09:23:41 PM
u know, they should ask each candidate that series of questions at tonights debate

make them all yes or no questions and penalize them for saying anything other than yes or no
1) is president obama the president?
2) is president obama a secret, avowed muslim
3) is it legal for the president to make recess appointments (and beep them for anything other than yes/no)

this is why they wont come to my debate
sigh
 
2012-01-23 09:34:24 PM

SnakeLee: Q&A sessions at political events ALWAYS have an insane person at them.


In this GOP campaign, they frequently seem to be at the podium.
 
2012-01-23 09:36:09 PM
It could've been worse. Santorum could've denied that charge by calling Obama a "good family man."
 
2012-01-23 09:39:58 PM
Actually, Rick was acting like Jesus there.

Questioner: "I read once that King Herod had all the male babies in his Kingdom slaughtered".

Jesus could have said, "The Romans keep very good records and wrote a lot about what a dick Herod was. But they never mentioned this, which would have been the dickiest dick move of all. So I don't think it ever happened".

Instead..crickets.

So vote for Rick.
 
2012-01-23 09:40:27 PM
We're a family of atheists and agnostics. My sister, during her senior year in high school, decided to join a protestant, but otherwise non-denominational Christian church-she decided that she was, in other words, Christian, A few year later, she decided she wasn't. It doesn't matter what religion your parents say you are when you are young. It matters what you decide on later. Otherwise, EnviroDude's hero, Glen Beck, would still be whatever he was before he decided to join the magic underwear cult. We're not calling Obama's mother a liar because the religion that she put on a school application happened to be Islam because he was 5, not 18 and because once you reach a certain age, religion is a choice.
 
2012-01-23 09:44:36 PM
So, I heard tenpoundsofcheese likes to anally violate roadkill while eating marshmallows. I'm not saying it's true, but I've been hearing that around a lot and I'm just wondering why it hasn't been addressed yet.
 
2012-01-23 09:50:07 PM

A Dark Evil Omen: So, I heard tenpoundsofcheese likes to anally violate roadkill while eating marshmallows. I'm not saying it's true, but I've been hearing that around a lot and I'm just wondering why it hasn't been addressed yet.


WHER SQWURLBUTT, TENPOUNDOFDERP? WHE?
 
2012-01-23 09:50:39 PM
I thought that Obama's minister was a kill crazy Weatherman?

Which is it, kids? Which is it?
 
2012-01-23 09:51:07 PM

EnviroDude: You need to rememver Obama's mother said he was a muslim. It is one the school application she filled out when he was in Indonesia. Who are we to call her a liar.


Putting aside the Birfer lie shiat for a moment, is Gingrich any less Catholic because he converted?
 
2012-01-23 09:53:06 PM

shanrick: Did you hear? There's a farker who likes to anally violate roadkill. While he's eating marshmallows! What's that guys problem?


Hey, I am offended. No one eats marshmallows while you violate roadkill. For roadkill you enjoy a nice brie. Sheesh.

Philistines...
 
2012-01-23 09:57:12 PM

A Dark Evil Omen: So, I heard tenpoundsofcheese likes to anally violate roadkill while eating marshmallows. I'm not saying it's true, but I've been hearing that around a lot and I'm just wondering why it hasn't been addressed yet.


It's not my responsibility to be tenpoundsofcheese PR department. If that's the impression he's given, that's his problem.
 
2012-01-23 09:57:50 PM
What does it say about the current Republican presidential campaign when it has descended so far into Derptown and Diddlerville that it makes the McCain/Palin campaign of 2008 seem downright honorable by comparison?
 
2012-01-23 09:59:16 PM
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2012-01-23 10:04:44 PM
Obama declared in prepared remarks, "The United States has been enriched by Muslim Americans. Many other Americans have Muslims in their families or have lived in a Muslim-majority country - I know, because I am one of them."

Obama's wife Michelle does not accompany him to Muslim nations because Sharia law would apply to her there; on a presidential trip she was with him until France, but then returned home.

Obama has said "my Muslim faith."

Contrary to Christianity, the Islamic doctrine of taqiyya encourages adherents to deny they are Muslim if it advances the cause of Islam.

Obama uses the Muslim Pakistani pronunciation for "Pakistan" rather than the common American one.

Obama has chosen the Secret Service code name "Renegade". "Renegade" conventionally describes someone who goes against normal conventions of behavior, but its first usage was to describe someone who has turned from their religion. It is a word derived from the Spanish renegado, which originally meant "Christian turned Muslim."

Obama botched his public oath of office in which he placed his hand on a Bible, and then chose not to use the Bible for his real, private oath.

Dancing is a popular form of celebration and partying by all ethnicities. But why is Barack Obama rarely seen dancing, or even allowing and attending dancing. Perhaps I've missed it (please let me know if I have). I know, there was one highly staged politically correct dance with Ellen DeGeneris as Obama was catering to her audience. But where's the rest? One explanation is that the Islamic sharia disfavors dancing.

Wake up, sheeple.
 
2012-01-23 10:11:24 PM

0Icky0: Actually, Rick was acting like Jesus there.

Questioner: "I read once that King Herod had all the male babies in his Kingdom slaughtered".

Jesus could have said, "The Romans keep very good records and wrote a lot about what a dick Herod was. But they never mentioned this, which would have been the dickiest dick move of all. So I don't think it ever happened".

Instead..crickets.

So vote for Rick.


To be fair, the Gospels were written 60 years after Jesus's death, so it's not like he was around to correct them.
 
2012-01-23 10:11:42 PM
Santorum's campaign is laying in a coffin, and the final nail would be video of him sticking up for Obama, no matter how crass the claim.

McCain correcting a stupid person's question hurt his cause. Huntsman being a former ambassador nominated by Obama hurt his cause.

Frustrated Repub voters, and evangelicals in particular, want a candidate who hates Obama, not one who defends him, regardless of the derp.
 
2012-01-23 10:15:59 PM

dinch: tenpoundsofcheese likes to anally violate roadkill while eating marshmallows.

What the hell's up with THAT guy's PR campaign? Sheesh.


Let's just say the American Marshmallow Marketing Council is experimenting with some very precisely targeted ad placements in the southern states, mmmkay?
 
2012-01-23 10:19:09 PM

Stile4aly: Contrary to Christianity, the Islamic doctrine of taqiyya encourages adherents to deny they are Muslim if it advances the cause of Islam.


No, it says it's ok to conceal if you are in imminent danger of your life. That does not apply in this case.
 
2012-01-23 10:20:21 PM
Since I have such low expectations of Santorum, nothing he fails to do will disappoint me.
 
2012-01-23 10:21:21 PM
He constantly says that our constitution is passé

President Hipster Obama is totally over the Constitution, man. He's into documents that create a framework of government that you've probably never even heard of.
 
2012-01-23 10:27:53 PM

Rapmaster2000: He's into documents that create a framework of government that you've probably never even heard of.


I hear that he's wielding supreme executive power just because some watery tart threw a sword at him.

/some moistened bint lobbed a scimitar at him is what I'm saying.
 
2012-01-23 10:44:04 PM
Republicans just haven't figured out that every time they pander to the lunatic right, they lose more independent voters who stereotype the entire party as nuts and not worthy of public office.
 
2012-01-23 10:44:11 PM

EnviroDude: You need to rememver Obama's mother said he was a muslim. It is one the school application she filled out when he was in Indonesia. Who are we to call her a liar.


Citation?
 
2012-01-23 10:45:29 PM
Wish I lived in a country that didn't require a religious test for public office instead of this gurgling shiathole of a nation.
 
2012-01-23 10:46:41 PM

Stile4aly: Obama Someting something something

DERP DERP STUPID


Well conveyed thought!
 
2012-01-23 10:54:32 PM

Stile4aly: Wake up, sheeple.


I was going to comment line for line, but I have one question coming out of all your "Can't you see he's Muslim!!!" conspiracy theories. If he is a Muslim who is going to sell out this country to Sharia law and overlayered women's clothing, why has he been in office doing just about everything the Republicans want in the name of "compromise"? Even the health bill the Republicans claim they want to eliminate, will be virtually identical to the Healthcare law currently in place, they just won't call it "Obamacare" anymore. Liberals were promised a 180 turn from the Bush policies and we only got about 15 degrees. I think you should be celebrating it was Obama who won and not Hillary.
 
2012-01-23 10:55:52 PM

DarkSoulNoHope: I was going to comment line for line, but I have one question coming out of all your "Can't you see he's Muslim!!!" conspiracy theories. If he is a Muslim who is going to sell out this country to Sharia law and overlayered women's clothing, why has he been in office doing just about everything the Republicans want in the name of "compromise"? Even the health bill the Republicans claim they want to eliminate, will be virtually identical to the Healthcare law currently in place, they just won't call it "Obamacare" anymore. Liberals were promised a 180 turn from the Bush policies and we only got about 15 degrees. I think you should be celebrating it was Obama who won and not Hillary.


Small correction, "The healthcare bill the Republicans claim they want to introduce..."
 
2012-01-23 11:00:46 PM

ecmoRandomNumbers: I think most voters would gladly trade 12 million illegal immigrants for 12 million idiots like this woman. Do we have enough C-130s to airdrop them into Somalia?


Hasn't Somalia got enough problems, you evil person?
 
2012-01-23 11:30:20 PM

tenpoundsofcheese: Santorum is not 0bama's PR machine. Anyway, there were political points to be scored, here. Times like those, honesty and accuracy and telling the truth are for pussies.


Jesus farking christ. What is it with you republicans and your situational ethics?? sheesh.
 
2012-01-23 11:39:01 PM
shiatbag of a politician and shiatbag of a human being refuses to deny lies or educate his potential voters. How can this guy expect to be president when he lets people get away with outright lies?

At least McCain corrected the idiot at his event. Even if it was in a backhanded way to Muslims (Which I honestly doubt he intended) it made me respect the man more.
 
2012-01-24 12:00:21 AM
In fairness to Christianity, Santorum is actually just a Catholic.
 
2012-01-24 12:02:30 AM
I don't see why Santorum's reaction (or lack thereof) is all that scandalous. It is well established that he is just as capable of whoring himself out for votes as the next candidate. Sure, it is disturbing that his "strong morals" and alleged integrity are only present when convenient, but what more can be expected from someone who uses his religious beliefs as a crutch for his political campaign when displaying one's positive attributes as politician (if they even exist) is the focus of most serious campaigns? Or at least show some command over an audience and the ability to hold a position without immediately capitulating.

If anything positive can be said about all this, it is that this can be taken as a sign that Santorum's campaign has lost all momentum if he is making his desperation to cling to votes so obvious.
 
2012-01-24 12:03:21 AM

Stile4aly: Contrary to Christianity, the Islamic doctrine of taqiyya encourages adherents to deny they are Muslim if it advances the cause of Islam.


I believe that you are a secret Muslim poster who is acting like a mouth breathing idiot, with your goal to discredit the birther movement. You have actual knowledge that the President is a Muslim, but you don't want anyone to believe it as it would ruin your plans. By acting like a total motard and saying things that you know to be sort of true, everyone reading this thread will be less likely to believe Obama is a Muslim. If you deny it, then I'll know it's true, because contrary to Christianity, the Islamic doctrine of taqiyya encourages adherents to deny they are Muslim if it advances the cause of Islam.

Plus, nobody could be that stupid.
 
2012-01-24 12:10:20 AM
NateGrey: EnviroDude: You need to rememver Obama's mother said he was a muslim. It is one the school application she filled out when he was in Indonesia. Who are we to call her a liar.


Envirodude/PhilHerup you disgusting liar and gossipmonger. In Indonesia, he went to the frickin' St. Francis of Assissi school. YOU are the problem with America. Tell shiatstupid lies just because you think it helps your beloved Republican party. Go eat Rush Limbaugh's shiat and die, enviroPhilHerup.
 
2012-01-24 12:30:51 AM
And so what if Obama is muslim? So...f'ing....what? What the hell do I care? If he was sent here by the secret terrorists to make this a muslim nation, he's obviously failed. He's the worst secret muslim terrorist ever, unless it's so secret that most of us are already muslims and are just keeping it a secret until Obama's re-elected, and then all the secret muslim women will put on their hijabs, and all the secret muslim men will stop eating bacon. It'll be mass chaos.
 
2012-01-24 12:59:55 AM
I see anyone coming to my house (or anywhere around me) with marshmallows in hand and they will be in a world of hurt.
 
2012-01-24 01:06:35 AM

Stile4aly: Obama uses the Muslim Pakistani pronunciation for "Pakistan" rather than the common American one.


He used the correct pronunciation. And he probably doesn't pronounce Iran as "I ran" either.

And WTF is Muslim pronunciation?
 
2012-01-24 01:07:21 AM

EmmaLou: ...and all the secret muslim men will stop eating bacon. It'll be mass chaos.


..and more bacon for the rest of us.
 
2012-01-24 01:11:45 AM

SnakeLee: St_Francis_P: He didn't lie, no. It's just that after being told repeatedly how moral and Christian this guy is, I'd expect a more substantial reply than, "Yeah, but what can you do?"

Q&A sessions at political events ALWAYS have an insane person at them. The speaker usually ignores them like Santorum did here. I can't really blame him, I just think he didn't want to say "are you sure that's what's happening or are you just a crazy old cat lady? Because I think you are crazy." There are plenty of real things to attack him over, I just don't think this is one of them.


Whereas a *leader* would be both able, and compelled morally, to guide his constituent (and the ign'int yahoos cheering her on) away from their bizarre, insane misconceptions toward the realities they must face as responsible American citizens.

Crazy Lady: "I never refer to Obama as President Obama because legally he is not,"
Responsible American Politician Regardless of Party: "Excuse me, madam, but Mr. Obama is in fact our President. This is not in dispute."
Crazy Lady: "He constantly says that our constitution is passé,"
RAPRP: "Well, madam, I have not heard him say this, but do please continue..."
Crazy Lady: "and he ignores it as you know and does what he darn well pleases."
RAPRP: *uncomfortable blank look"
Crazy Lady: "He is an avowed Muslim"
RAPRP: "Madam, Mr. Obama to my knowledge is a lifelong Christian, and this also is not in dispute."
Crazy Lady: "and my question is, why isn't something being done to get him out of government?"
RAPRP: "I and several others are spending hundreds of millions of dollars that could otherwise be applied to improving the lives of yourself and other Americans to replacing him in office."
Crazy Lady: "He has no legal right to be calling himself president.".
RAPRP: "Madam, I appreciate your opinion. However, Mr. Obama has been duly elected and sworn in to the office of President of the United States of America and you are a crazy lady. But here is why I believe as his replacement my policies would be better: etc."

Santorum, throughout: *uncomfortable but approving rictus smile, kinda like Dubya at the '04 convention while his purple-bandaid-wearing fanatics chanted, "FLIIIIIP, FLLLOPP, FLIIIIP FLLLLOP!"* "Well, madam, everything you said is the manifest truth, please vote for me!"
 
2012-01-24 01:18:17 AM
What a load of nothing
 
2012-01-24 01:26:31 AM

BuckTurgidson: SnakeLee: St_Francis_P:
Whereas a *leader* would be both able, and compelled morally, to guide his constituent (and the ign'int yahoos cheering her on) away from their bizarre, insane misconceptions toward the realities they must face as responsible American citizens.

This is exactly what I was thinking during Rick Warren's appearance at Obama's inauguration. I was told to "reach out".

 
2012-01-24 01:35:03 AM
To be fair, since you're not really supposed to go on a tirade about someone being farking stupid when that someone is a supporter, I don't know that I'd have a response for that either.

Especially since the "nuh uh" response can sometimes make you sound just as bigoted as the person you're correcting if you haven't put thought into it beforehand (see McCain's response to his crazy-lady moment... well, his verbal response. His emotional response, I'm pretty sure, was to decide he didn't want to be president anymore.)
 
2012-01-24 01:35:11 AM

wellreadneck: This is exactly what I was thinking during Rick Warren's appearance at Obama's inauguration


I remember that too, when Rick Warren asserted that Obama was an avowed Muslim usurper with no legal right to assume office who openly professed contempt for the Constitution.

I was surprised nobody said anything at the time.
 
2012-01-24 01:44:09 AM

Stile4aly: Wake up, sheeple.


The Republican candidates (if you want to include Bachmann) have stated that a woman should be subservient to her husband, that homosexuals are a moral threat, and that it's wrong for even married heterosexuals in the dark to use birth control.

Santorum has done more to advance Sharia law than the entire Islamic-American population.
 
2012-01-24 01:48:34 AM

BuckTurgidson: wellreadneck: This is exactly what I was thinking during Rick Warren's appearance at Obama's inauguration

I remember that too, when Rick Warren asserted that Obama was an avowed Muslim usurper with no legal right to assume office who openly professed contempt for the Constitution.

I was surprised nobody said anything at the time.


It was politcally expediant to ignore it, just like what Santorum did.
 
2012-01-24 01:52:08 AM

wellreadneck: what


The lesson being: both sides are the same.
 
2012-01-24 01:57:17 AM

Hickory-smoked: Stile4aly: Wake up, sheeple.

The Republican candidates (if you want to include Bachmann) have stated that a woman should be subservient to her husband, that homosexuals are a moral threat, and that it's wrong for even married heterosexuals in the dark to use birth control.

Santorum has done more to advance Sharia law than the entire Islamic-American population.


What's amusing, are the Fundamentalists and Evangelicals who are lining up behind a Catholic, because the sitting President in choosing an Episcopal church over a Baptist one--and who've ignored plenty of examples of the President speaking on his spiritual journey.

http://www.thedailybeast.com/newsweek /2008/07/11/finding-his-faith.ht m l

For the folks who might be interested.
 
2012-01-24 02:06:46 AM

SnakeLee: St_Francis_P: Yet McCain of all people had the nuts to tell a crazy lady that Obama was a moral, decent man. My opinion of McCain rose a lot after that.

Yeah well McCain has a raging temper and is also a huge dick


And I still have more respect for him than this crop...

/That doesn't say much, trust me.
 
2012-01-24 02:14:08 AM

Stile4aly: Obama declared in prepared remarks, "The United States has been enriched by Muslim Americans. Many other Americans have Muslims in their families or have lived in a Muslim-majority country - I know, because I am one of them."


This one is my favorite. Instead of the usual half-lies or innuendo, it relies entirely on the presumption that the reader is unable to comprehend a simple sentence.
 
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