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It turns out, kiddies, that you really do have a "permanent record", and the feds want it
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Weaver95
2012-01-23 05:15:53 PM
Since "No Child Left Behind" was passed 10 years ago, states have been required to ramp up the amount of data they collect about individual students, teachers, and schools. Personal information, including test scores, economic status, grades, and even disciplinary problems and student pregnancies, are tracked and stored in a kind of virtual "permanent record" for each student.
I am not a number I am a FREE MAN!
Chariset
2012-01-23 05:16:34 PM
Well, don't get so distressed.
RoyBatty
2012-01-23 05:55:48 PM
WHAR OBAMA SCHOOL RECORDS WHAR?
/sorry
//best friend went to elementary school in Hawaii with Obama.
Ed Finnerty
2012-01-23 05:57:42 PM
Obviously they belong with America's corporate citizens so they can use them to create jobs and such as.
your average maint. man
2012-01-23 06:15:57 PM
wow, they must have a lot of memory
TravisBickle62
2012-01-23 06:16:06 PM
That thing about me picking my nose in fourth grade ... it wasn't a pick, it was a scratch.
meat0918
2012-01-23 06:16:28 PM
Duh! It's called Facebook, and it's information available to the highest bidder.
Who care what grades you got, marketers want to know what appeals to you so they can better craft their advertisements.
meat0918
2012-01-23 06:17:13 PM
meat0918
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Duh! It's called Facebook, and it's information available to the highest bidder.
Who care
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what grades you got, marketers want to know what appeals to you so they can better craft their advertisements.
Apparently, good grades I not get in school.
groppet
2012-01-23 06:19:17 PM
Makes you almost not want to leave your home. Cant wait til they get them eye scanners like in Minority Report. "Mr. Groppet I hope you enjoyed the ballgag and matching nipple clamps."
scottydoesntknow
2012-01-23 06:19:33 PM
Manager:
I understand that Mr. Simpson, but according to our computer, your credit history is not good. It says here that you've been predeclined for every major credit card. It also says that you once grabbed a dog by the hind legs and pushed him around like a vacuum cleaner.
Homer:
That was in the third grade!
Manager:
Yeah, well, it all goes on your permanent record.
RobotSpider
2012-01-23 06:21:39 PM
What's the big deal? They just want the records so they can find all the lowest-scoring students and take them off to be executed so they're not a drain on the American Tax-Payer™. So it's nothing sinister or anything. The ones that don't CHOOSE to be executed will improve their grades. The ones that don't choose to improve their grades are Free™ to do so.
As my very Catholic mother was fond of saying when I was "old enough to decide whether or not to go to church":
"You have to make your own choices. I just hope you make the right ones."
meg12279
2012-01-23 06:21:44 PM
I can add JUST FINE, jerks!
sandmanahoy
2012-01-23 06:22:54 PM
Doooooo doo doooooo doo doo doo doooooo doo doooooo doo doo...
/and now it'll be in my head all night
picturescrazy
2012-01-23 06:24:36 PM
Chariset
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Well, don't get so distressed.
Did I happen to mention that I'm impressed?
your average maint. man
2012-01-23 06:26:32 PM
RobotSpider
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What's the big deal? They just want the records so they can find all the lowest-scoring students and take them off to be executed so they're not a drain on the American Tax-Payer™. So it's nothing sinister or anything. The ones that don't CHOOSE to be executed will improve their grades. The ones that don't choose to improve their grades are Free™ to do so.
As my very Catholic mother was fond of saying when I was "old enough to decide whether or not to go to church":
"You have to make your own choices. I just hope you make the right ones."
if they execute them, who will obama give the food stamps to???
CommiePuddin
2012-01-23 06:27:16 PM
Weaver95
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Since "No Child Left Behind" was passed 10 years ago, states have been required to ramp up the amount of data they collect about individual students, teachers, and schools. Personal information, including test scores, economic status, grades, and even disciplinary problems and student pregnancies, are tracked and stored in a kind of virtual "permanent record" for each student.
I am not a number I am a FREE MAN!
Ed Finnerty
2012-01-23 06:30:12 PM
Mitch Taylor's Bro
2012-01-23 06:30:23 PM
The "feds" want it, subby? Sounds like they already have it. FTFA:
"The federal government is taking steps to make the data more secure, however. In December, the Family Educational Rights and Privacy Act was revised to give parents more control over their children's records. According to a parent information sheet released by the government, the revisions give parents "certain rights with regard to their children's education records, such as the right to inspect and review [their] child's education records."
CalvinLives
2012-01-23 06:33:44 PM
Since Farkers are just chock-full of love & compassion, and most are already graduated from K-12 school, plus most clearly have no kids, I expect much less concern about this issue than about something like SOPA.
However, the U.S. News & World Report article actually misrepresented what's happening. In actual fact, EVERYTHING on a kid's record - including medical information and the response to every privacy-invading "survey" he/she ever took - can now be shared with any entity (corporate, government, academic, or otherwise) that the feds or state wants to give it to.
Check this out:
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lack of warmth
2012-01-23 06:33:47 PM
Sadly I am not a free man. I have debt. Indy Mac owns my house. The furnace belongs to American General. The rest belongs to credit cards. Boss says I work real hard I jus might git the furnace and cards paid soon. I'll feel a little freer then.
ICDedPpl
2012-01-23 06:36:05 PM
picturescrazy
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Chariset: Well, don't get so distressed.
Did I happen to mention that I'm impressed?
came here to post that. but you beat me to it. So kiss off.
/into the air
IamSoSmart_S_M_R_T
2012-01-23 06:36:37 PM
Nine times
boomm
2012-01-23 06:37:10 PM
Today's children are extremely extroverted Internetizens for a reason. They know everything they do is already permanently recorded in information networks for the authoritarians to ogle, peruse and critique whenever they pull up 'vital records'. Every person placed over you for the rest of your life will choose how to treat you based on your record.
Why would sharing your private life with friends and strangers be so much worse? And least strangers on YouTube aren't going to suspend you for that third tardy, just so they can win the 'no tolerance' ribbon.
ZAZ
2012-01-23 06:39:29 PM
I was repeatedly warned in 8th and 9th grade, decades before NCLB, that the feds sometimes asked for school records when doing background investigations. The warning was supposed to get students to behave sufficiently not to be disciplined. I think my permanent record is mostly boring. Except for the school bus window. But I really don't think that was my fault.
Ed Finnerty
2012-01-23 06:40:12 PM
boomm
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Today's children are extremely extroverted Internetizens for a reason. They know everything they do is already permanently recorded in information networks for the authoritarians to ogle, peruse and critique whenever they pull up 'vital records'.
I think you give today's children far too much credit.
I_Like_Pie
2012-01-23 06:47:25 PM
I just can't see how this would fall outside of the Freedom of Information Act!?!?!
Could someone chime in on this?
fusillade762
2012-01-23 06:51:01 PM
Damn. Glad I got my schoollin' out of the way long ago. Some of the shiat we pulled when I was in high school (bringing toy guns to class to "assassinate" other students, etc) would have gotten us arrested, shot and expelled. My record would look like a Beatles box set.
Toshiro Mifune's Letter Opener
2012-01-23 06:53:47 PM
"And you better believe that that's going on your PERMANENT RECORD!!!"
boomm
2012-01-23 07:03:46 PM
Ed Finnerty
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boomm: Today's children are extremely extroverted Internetizens for a reason. They know everything they do is already permanently recorded in information networks for the authoritarians to ogle, peruse and critique whenever they pull up 'vital records'.
I think you give today's children far too much credit.
I don't mind giving them the extra credit too, if it helps secure my job and gets the trouble makers off to the next grade.
Noticeably F.A.T.
2012-01-23 07:03:58 PM
boomm:
Today's children are extremely extroverted Internetizens for a reason. They know everything they do is already permanently recorded in information networks for the authoritarians to ogle, peruse and critique whenever they pull up 'vital records'. Every person placed over you for the rest of your life will choose how to treat you based on your record.
I hadn't thought about it before this, but I wonder if putting anything and everything out there isn't a better (or at least as good) tactic for minimizing Big Brother's intrusion. Give the appearance of not trying to hide anything while simultaneously flooding the systems with more data than they could hope to handle. "You want to know what I'm up to? Here's 30,000 data points. Oh, and that's just from yesterday. Good luck filtering anything useful out of them."
Noticeably F.A.T.
2012-01-23 07:05:52 PM
Ed Finnerty:
I think you give today's children far too much credit.
I don't think so. Children (and people in general) are no smarter or dumber than they've ever been (and in my experience tend to be smarter than most Farkers give them credit for), they just know different things than you do, and have different priorities.
StingerJ
2012-01-23 07:24:11 PM
Gordon Gano is not impressed.
You can all just kiss off into the air.
Oldiron_79
2012-01-23 07:34:24 PM
1984 was supposed to be a warning, not an instruction manual.
The Irresponsible Captain
2012-01-23 07:38:30 PM
I hope you know this will go down
On your permanent record!
Oh yeah? Well don't get so distressed...
Oh, and this is seriously creepy. We need privacy laws, maybe a privacy amendment to the Constitution.
Gyrfalcon
2012-01-23 07:39:51 PM
Every year I get more and more glad I graduated before computers were invented.
My school records were handwritten in pencil, and have probably all been burned by now to make room for something or other. If they haven't faded away entirely.
It is freaking scary indeed how much crap schools have on kids, and why in gods' name do they need anything more than a listing of your kids' grades and locker number?
thelordofcheese
2012-01-23 07:41:08 PM
MOAR
boomm
2012-01-23 07:44:42 PM
Oldiron_79
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1984 was supposed to be a warning, not an instruction manual.
At the end of the book, ...consider yourself warned. No hope that the story will deter the digital dreams of the governecks wielding the network for their cause.
missiv
2012-01-23 07:45:04 PM
Mitch Taylor's Bro
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The "feds" want it, subby? Sounds like they already have it. FTFA:
"The federal government is taking steps to make the data more secure, however. In December, the Family Educational Rights and Privacy Act was revised to give parents more control over their children's records. According to a parent information sheet released by the government, the revisions give parents "certain rights with regard to their children's education records, such as the right to inspect and review [their] child's education records."
The Pentagon stores the students records. Didn't anyone read the law Bush signed?
coldones
2012-01-23 07:59:35 PM
I was wondering why Obama called me in the middle of the night to ridicule me about that time I peed myself in First Grade.
darkvstar
2012-01-23 08:02:20 PM
meat0918
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Duh! It's called Facebook, and it's information available to the highest bidder.
Who care what grades you got, marketers want to know what appeals to you so they can better craft their advertisements.
funny thing about intelligence and IQ scores. It can accurately predict who will submit and who will resist oppression and brain washing. Both Mao and Stalin purged their countries of the "intellectuals". I could see a future in a corporate controlled America where intelligent people were put on a "watch" list.
Strobeguy
2012-01-23 08:06:22 PM
My buddy was getting background checked for entrance as a contractor into a nuke plant.
He was 46 , they found a marijuana charge (not a conviction) from when he was 17 in high school and denied him.
Snarcoleptic_Hoosier
2012-01-23 08:12:07 PM
darkvstar
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meat0918: Duh! It's called Facebook, and it's information available to the highest bidder.
Who care what grades you got, marketers want to know what appeals to you so they can better craft their advertisements.
funny thing about intelligence and IQ scores. It can accurately predict who will submit and who will resist oppression and brain washing. Both Mao and Stalin purged their countries of the "intellectuals". I could see a future in a corporate controlled America where intelligent people were put on a "watch" list.
Hah! Joke is on them. I've been tested to be around 120, but I'm a farktard!
/Drinks turpentine for the vitamin C
thesubliminalman
2012-01-23 08:16:32 PM
Alkony
2012-01-23 08:21:52 PM
I'm wondering how they get away with recording and sharing medical information such as illness and pregnancy records without being guilty of HIPAA violations.
Fano
2012-01-23 08:33:48 PM
Alkony
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I'm wondering how they get away with recording and sharing medical information such as illness and pregnancy records without being guilty of HIPAA violations.
It ain't illegal when the government does it.
boomm
2012-01-23 08:37:26 PM
Alkony
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I'm wondering how they get away with recording and sharing medical information such as illness and pregnancy records without being guilty of HIPAA violations.
You're not reassured by the universal policy that your medical records are earnestly guarded from being disclosed to your spouse, parents, children, siblings, family or friends or legal advocates baring a hand written letter sent by registered mail through the United States Postal Service; and yet instantly available to every associate doctor, hospital, ancillary medical service provider, their employees, contractors and sundry support staff and especially insurers without any additional release by you?
You need a bit more institutionalization to help you sooth yourself with the thumb-sucking mental exercise that is trusting in the soulless protector of your tidBits that affirm your existence to the system.
Nightjars
2012-01-23 08:48:34 PM
Yeah, but they'll have to find a record player to be able to play your permanent record, and nobody has those anymore.
wambu
2012-01-23 08:48:59 PM
I graduated decades ago. I wonder if my school record is available?
obamadidcoke
2012-01-23 08:49:58 PM
FERPA
Whole article is crap and doesn't represent reality.
altinos
2012-01-23 08:51:30 PM
ICDedPpl
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picturescrazy: Chariset: Well, don't get so distressed.
Did I happen to mention that I'm impressed?
came here to post that. but you beat me to it. So kiss off.
/into the air
They'll hurt me bad, but I won't mind. They do it all the time. Yeah, yeah.
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