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(US News) Scary It turns out, kiddies, that you really do have a "permanent record", and the feds want it   (usnews.com) divider line 76
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2012-01-23 05:15:53 PM
Since "No Child Left Behind" was passed 10 years ago, states have been required to ramp up the amount of data they collect about individual students, teachers, and schools. Personal information, including test scores, economic status, grades, and even disciplinary problems and student pregnancies, are tracked and stored in a kind of virtual "permanent record" for each student.



I am not a number I am a FREE MAN!
 
2012-01-23 05:16:34 PM
Well, don't get so distressed.
 
2012-01-23 05:55:48 PM
WHAR OBAMA SCHOOL RECORDS WHAR?

/sorry
//best friend went to elementary school in Hawaii with Obama.
 
2012-01-23 05:57:42 PM
Obviously they belong with America's corporate citizens so they can use them to create jobs and such as.
 
2012-01-23 06:15:57 PM
wow, they must have a lot of memory
 
2012-01-23 06:16:06 PM
That thing about me picking my nose in fourth grade ... it wasn't a pick, it was a scratch.
 
2012-01-23 06:16:28 PM
Duh! It's called Facebook, and it's information available to the highest bidder.

Who care what grades you got, marketers want to know what appeals to you so they can better craft their advertisements.
 
2012-01-23 06:17:13 PM
meat0918: Duh! It's called Facebook, and it's information available to the highest bidder.

Who cares what grades you got, marketers want to know what appeals to you so they can better craft their advertisements.


Apparently, good grades I not get in school.
 
2012-01-23 06:19:17 PM
Makes you almost not want to leave your home. Cant wait til they get them eye scanners like in Minority Report. "Mr. Groppet I hope you enjoyed the ballgag and matching nipple clamps."
 
2012-01-23 06:19:33 PM
www.hwdyk.com

Manager: I understand that Mr. Simpson, but according to our computer, your credit history is not good. It says here that you've been predeclined for every major credit card. It also says that you once grabbed a dog by the hind legs and pushed him around like a vacuum cleaner.
Homer: That was in the third grade!
Manager: Yeah, well, it all goes on your permanent record.
 
2012-01-23 06:21:39 PM
What's the big deal? They just want the records so they can find all the lowest-scoring students and take them off to be executed so they're not a drain on the American Tax-Payer™. So it's nothing sinister or anything. The ones that don't CHOOSE to be executed will improve their grades. The ones that don't choose to improve their grades are Free™ to do so.

As my very Catholic mother was fond of saying when I was "old enough to decide whether or not to go to church":

"You have to make your own choices. I just hope you make the right ones."
 
2012-01-23 06:21:44 PM
I can add JUST FINE, jerks!
 
2012-01-23 06:22:54 PM
Doooooo doo doooooo doo doo doo doooooo doo doooooo doo doo...

/and now it'll be in my head all night
 
2012-01-23 06:24:36 PM
Chariset: Well, don't get so distressed.

Did I happen to mention that I'm impressed?
 
2012-01-23 06:26:32 PM
RobotSpider: What's the big deal? They just want the records so they can find all the lowest-scoring students and take them off to be executed so they're not a drain on the American Tax-Payer™. So it's nothing sinister or anything. The ones that don't CHOOSE to be executed will improve their grades. The ones that don't choose to improve their grades are Free™ to do so.

As my very Catholic mother was fond of saying when I was "old enough to decide whether or not to go to church":

"You have to make your own choices. I just hope you make the right ones."


if they execute them, who will obama give the food stamps to???
 
2012-01-23 06:27:16 PM
Weaver95: Since "No Child Left Behind" was passed 10 years ago, states have been required to ramp up the amount of data they collect about individual students, teachers, and schools. Personal information, including test scores, economic status, grades, and even disciplinary problems and student pregnancies, are tracked and stored in a kind of virtual "permanent record" for each student.



I am not a number I am a FREE MAN!


www.examiner.com
 
2012-01-23 06:30:12 PM
dtdstudios.com
 
2012-01-23 06:30:23 PM
The "feds" want it, subby? Sounds like they already have it. FTFA:

"The federal government is taking steps to make the data more secure, however. In December, the Family Educational Rights and Privacy Act was revised to give parents more control over their children's records. According to a parent information sheet released by the government, the revisions give parents "certain rights with regard to their children's education records, such as the right to inspect and review [their] child's education records."
 
2012-01-23 06:33:44 PM
Since Farkers are just chock-full of love & compassion, and most are already graduated from K-12 school, plus most clearly have no kids, I expect much less concern about this issue than about something like SOPA.

However, the U.S. News & World Report article actually misrepresented what's happening. In actual fact, EVERYTHING on a kid's record - including medical information and the response to every privacy-invading "survey" he/she ever took - can now be shared with any entity (corporate, government, academic, or otherwise) that the feds or state wants to give it to.

Check this out: Link (new window)
 
2012-01-23 06:33:47 PM
Sadly I am not a free man. I have debt. Indy Mac owns my house. The furnace belongs to American General. The rest belongs to credit cards. Boss says I work real hard I jus might git the furnace and cards paid soon. I'll feel a little freer then.
 
2012-01-23 06:36:05 PM
picturescrazy: Chariset: Well, don't get so distressed.

Did I happen to mention that I'm impressed?


came here to post that. but you beat me to it. So kiss off.

/into the air
 
2012-01-23 06:36:37 PM
Nine times
 
2012-01-23 06:37:10 PM
Today's children are extremely extroverted Internetizens for a reason. They know everything they do is already permanently recorded in information networks for the authoritarians to ogle, peruse and critique whenever they pull up 'vital records'. Every person placed over you for the rest of your life will choose how to treat you based on your record.

Why would sharing your private life with friends and strangers be so much worse? And least strangers on YouTube aren't going to suspend you for that third tardy, just so they can win the 'no tolerance' ribbon.
 
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2012-01-23 06:39:29 PM
I was repeatedly warned in 8th and 9th grade, decades before NCLB, that the feds sometimes asked for school records when doing background investigations. The warning was supposed to get students to behave sufficiently not to be disciplined. I think my permanent record is mostly boring. Except for the school bus window. But I really don't think that was my fault.
 
2012-01-23 06:40:12 PM
boomm: Today's children are extremely extroverted Internetizens for a reason. They know everything they do is already permanently recorded in information networks for the authoritarians to ogle, peruse and critique whenever they pull up 'vital records'.

I think you give today's children far too much credit.
 
2012-01-23 06:47:25 PM
I just can't see how this would fall outside of the Freedom of Information Act!?!?!

Could someone chime in on this?
 
2012-01-23 06:51:01 PM
Damn. Glad I got my schoollin' out of the way long ago. Some of the shiat we pulled when I was in high school (bringing toy guns to class to "assassinate" other students, etc) would have gotten us arrested, shot and expelled. My record would look like a Beatles box set.
 
2012-01-23 06:53:47 PM
img821.imageshack.us

"And you better believe that that's going on your PERMANENT RECORD!!!"
 
2012-01-23 07:03:46 PM
Ed Finnerty: boomm: Today's children are extremely extroverted Internetizens for a reason. They know everything they do is already permanently recorded in information networks for the authoritarians to ogle, peruse and critique whenever they pull up 'vital records'.

I think you give today's children far too much credit.


I don't mind giving them the extra credit too, if it helps secure my job and gets the trouble makers off to the next grade.
 
2012-01-23 07:03:58 PM
boomm: Today's children are extremely extroverted Internetizens for a reason. They know everything they do is already permanently recorded in information networks for the authoritarians to ogle, peruse and critique whenever they pull up 'vital records'. Every person placed over you for the rest of your life will choose how to treat you based on your record.

I hadn't thought about it before this, but I wonder if putting anything and everything out there isn't a better (or at least as good) tactic for minimizing Big Brother's intrusion. Give the appearance of not trying to hide anything while simultaneously flooding the systems with more data than they could hope to handle. "You want to know what I'm up to? Here's 30,000 data points. Oh, and that's just from yesterday. Good luck filtering anything useful out of them."
 
2012-01-23 07:05:52 PM
Ed Finnerty: I think you give today's children far too much credit.

I don't think so. Children (and people in general) are no smarter or dumber than they've ever been (and in my experience tend to be smarter than most Farkers give them credit for), they just know different things than you do, and have different priorities.
 
2012-01-23 07:24:11 PM
Gordon Gano is not impressed.

You can all just kiss off into the air.
 
2012-01-23 07:34:24 PM
1984 was supposed to be a warning, not an instruction manual.
 
2012-01-23 07:38:30 PM
I hope you know this will go down
On your permanent record!
Oh yeah? Well don't get so distressed...

upload.wikimedia.org

Oh, and this is seriously creepy. We need privacy laws, maybe a privacy amendment to the Constitution.
 
2012-01-23 07:39:51 PM
Every year I get more and more glad I graduated before computers were invented.

My school records were handwritten in pencil, and have probably all been burned by now to make room for something or other. If they haven't faded away entirely.

It is freaking scary indeed how much crap schools have on kids, and why in gods' name do they need anything more than a listing of your kids' grades and locker number?
 
2012-01-23 07:41:08 PM
MOAR
25.media.tumblr.com
 
2012-01-23 07:44:42 PM
Oldiron_79: 1984 was supposed to be a warning, not an instruction manual.

At the end of the book, ...consider yourself warned. No hope that the story will deter the digital dreams of the governecks wielding the network for their cause.
 
2012-01-23 07:45:04 PM
Mitch Taylor's Bro: The "feds" want it, subby? Sounds like they already have it. FTFA:

"The federal government is taking steps to make the data more secure, however. In December, the Family Educational Rights and Privacy Act was revised to give parents more control over their children's records. According to a parent information sheet released by the government, the revisions give parents "certain rights with regard to their children's education records, such as the right to inspect and review [their] child's education records."


The Pentagon stores the students records. Didn't anyone read the law Bush signed?
 
2012-01-23 07:59:35 PM
I was wondering why Obama called me in the middle of the night to ridicule me about that time I peed myself in First Grade.
 
2012-01-23 08:02:20 PM
meat0918: Duh! It's called Facebook, and it's information available to the highest bidder.

Who care what grades you got, marketers want to know what appeals to you so they can better craft their advertisements.


funny thing about intelligence and IQ scores. It can accurately predict who will submit and who will resist oppression and brain washing. Both Mao and Stalin purged their countries of the "intellectuals". I could see a future in a corporate controlled America where intelligent people were put on a "watch" list.
 
2012-01-23 08:06:22 PM
My buddy was getting background checked for entrance as a contractor into a nuke plant.

He was 46 , they found a marijuana charge (not a conviction) from when he was 17 in high school and denied him.
 
2012-01-23 08:12:07 PM
darkvstar: meat0918: Duh! It's called Facebook, and it's information available to the highest bidder.

Who care what grades you got, marketers want to know what appeals to you so they can better craft their advertisements.

funny thing about intelligence and IQ scores. It can accurately predict who will submit and who will resist oppression and brain washing. Both Mao and Stalin purged their countries of the "intellectuals". I could see a future in a corporate controlled America where intelligent people were put on a "watch" list.


Hah! Joke is on them. I've been tested to be around 120, but I'm a farktard!

/Drinks turpentine for the vitamin C
 
2012-01-23 08:16:32 PM
upload.wikimedia.org
 
2012-01-23 08:21:52 PM
I'm wondering how they get away with recording and sharing medical information such as illness and pregnancy records without being guilty of HIPAA violations.
 
2012-01-23 08:33:48 PM
Alkony: I'm wondering how they get away with recording and sharing medical information such as illness and pregnancy records without being guilty of HIPAA violations.

It ain't illegal when the government does it.
 
2012-01-23 08:37:26 PM
Alkony: I'm wondering how they get away with recording and sharing medical information such as illness and pregnancy records without being guilty of HIPAA violations.

You're not reassured by the universal policy that your medical records are earnestly guarded from being disclosed to your spouse, parents, children, siblings, family or friends or legal advocates baring a hand written letter sent by registered mail through the United States Postal Service; and yet instantly available to every associate doctor, hospital, ancillary medical service provider, their employees, contractors and sundry support staff and especially insurers without any additional release by you?

You need a bit more institutionalization to help you sooth yourself with the thumb-sucking mental exercise that is trusting in the soulless protector of your tidBits that affirm your existence to the system.
 
2012-01-23 08:48:34 PM
Yeah, but they'll have to find a record player to be able to play your permanent record, and nobody has those anymore.
 
2012-01-23 08:48:59 PM
I graduated decades ago. I wonder if my school record is available?
 
2012-01-23 08:49:58 PM
FERPA

Whole article is crap and doesn't represent reality.
 
2012-01-23 08:51:30 PM
ICDedPpl: picturescrazy: Chariset: Well, don't get so distressed.

Did I happen to mention that I'm impressed?

came here to post that. but you beat me to it. So kiss off.

/into the air


They'll hurt me bad, but I won't mind. They do it all the time. Yeah, yeah.
 
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