I prefer my milk inorganic from mannequins at Macy's.

lol..........beat me to it

First world Hipster problem: effects of organic milk shortage felt in Boulder

FTFTROU

White milk problems.

put regular milk in the organic cartons and nobody will know the difference, well except for the stores they'll see profits increase.

Seriously what is in 'regular' milk that makes it so scary when compared with 'organic' milk?

How come nobody makes fun of third world problems?


"my country is ruled by a dictator I should plot to terrorize the west"

"Its my first time voting in a fair democratic election, I think Ill vote for radical religious extremists"


" holy shiat i have aids! Now i need to find a baby to rape"

Organic milk tastes better, there's no doubt about that. I won't spend an extra nickel on anything else organic, but the milk...well worth the cost. Horizon milk = win.

Egoy3k: put regular milk in the organic cartons and nobody will know the difference, well except for the stores they'll see profits increase.

Seriously what is in 'regular' milk that makes it so scary when compared with 'organic' milk?

Bovine growth hormone and antibiotics, supposedly.
Although I'm pretty sure nobody has managed to find a difference between drinking regular and BvGH milk yet.
However, overuse of antibiotics in the meat and dairy industry IS a real problem, and is part of the reason for shiat like MRSA.

Sounds like a 2% problem

Huck Chaser: Egoy3k: Seriously what is in 'regular' milk that makes it so scary when compared with 'organic' milk?

I can only speak for myself, but I eat organic food not because of its effects on my health directly, but because of its effects on the environment. All of the chemical fertilizers and insecticides that get washed out of the midwest via the Mississippi River has essentially turned the Gulf of Mexico into a lifeless wasteland, as an example.

Protip: Organic farming is FAR worse for the environment.
Thanks for being part of the problem, jackass.

Egoy3k: put regular milk in the organic cartons and nobody will know the difference, well except for the stores they'll see profits increase.

Horizon's been doing this for years.

Egoy3k: Seriously what is in 'regular' milk that makes it so scary when compared with 'organic' milk?

Nothing. If you're buying organic milk for the flavor or safety, you're doing it wrong because there isn't a lick of difference.

Organic is about responsibility. Most cows are abused on a level one can only call psychopathic, and part of this is enabled by pumping them full of hormones and antibiotics. Those chemicals lead to bad things like superbugs (which should really be considered a form of environmental damage). It's certainly possible for an "organic" cow to be miserable, and odds are that's the case, but at least not being able to give them antibiotics puts a ceiling on the sadism. An organic cow being treated like a CAFO one would fall over dead within a few months.

I was at the Whole Paycheck at Pearl and 30th in liberal, Democratic Boulder just a couple weeks ago. The parking lot was full of large luxury SUVs and expensive German sedans, and the store was full of middle-aged fashion slaves in ostentatious designer clothing. The main point of being there for most seemed to be social rather than actually shopping for food. Most patrons were walking around observing one another and exited the store with their paltry purchases to sit sipping lattes on the patio out front, to see who they might see and who might see them. It was quite the fashion show and status-parade.

The next day, I happened to be at the Whole Foods on South Colorado Boulevard in conservative, Republican Highlands Ranch. The parking lot was full of large luxury SUVs and expensive German sedans, and the store was full of middle-aged fashion slaves in ostentatious designer clothing. The main point of being there for most seemed to be social rather than actually shopping for food. Most patrons were walking around observing one another and exited the store with their paltry purchases to sit sipping lattes on the patio out front, to see who they might see and who might see them. It was quite the fashion show and status-parade.

Huck Chaser: stryker4526: Huck Chaser: Egoy3k: Seriously what is in 'regular' milk that makes it so scary when compared with 'organic' milk?

I can only speak for myself, but I eat organic food not because of its effects on my health directly, but because of its effects on the environment. All of the chemical fertilizers and insecticides that get washed out of the midwest via the Mississippi River has essentially turned the Gulf of Mexico into a lifeless wasteland, as an example.

Protip: Organic farming is FAR worse for the environment.
Thanks for being part of the problem, jackass.

In what way? And don't say it yields less food per acre or anything like that. The world's "food shortage" is due to distribution problems and waste, not lack of farmable land.

Uh... lack of arable land IS a problem. You ignoring it isn't going to change it. Also water usage, and the fact that depending on how strictly you define "organic" (i.e. do GM foods count?) it requires FAR more fertilizer. Organic and non-GM farming are environmentally irresponsible luxuries for rich nations and actually promoting it as a sustainable and ideal situation is irresponsible at best.

Egoy3k: put regular milk in the organic cartons and nobody will know the difference, well except for the stores they'll see profits increase.

Seriously what is in 'regular' milk that makes it so scary when compared with 'organic' milk?

The hippies would know. To them it would be the same difference as if I put 2% milk in your whole milk container and didn't tell you. You would know something was wrong with your milk.

I was actually listening to a story about this on NPR. The problem is that the demand for grain for these cows is up but there are not more farmers to produce organic grain. It is a problem that is encountered in capitalism and they'll need to find a way to fix it if they want their product to be priced competitively.

Wait, there are synthetic cows? "Organic cow" LMFAO.

Stolen from a photoshop contest

ChuDogg: How come nobody makes fun of third world problems?


"my country is ruled by a dictator I should plot to terrorize the west"

"Its my first time voting in a fair democratic election, I think Ill vote for radical religious extremists"


" holy shiat i have aids! Now i need to find a baby to rape"

Rucka Rucka Ali does it.

kiwimoogle84: ChuDogg: How come nobody makes fun of third world problems?


"my country is ruled by a dictator I should plot to terrorize the west"

"Its my first time voting in a fair democratic election, I think Ill vote for radical religious extremists"


" holy shiat i have aids! Now i need to find a baby to rape"

You're my first new favorite of the day for being nearly as twisted as me.

Bravo!

ditto

canyoneer: I was at the Whole Paycheck at Pearl and 30th in liberal, Democratic Boulder just a couple weeks ago. The parking lot was full of large luxury SUVs and expensive German sedans, and the store was full of middle-aged fashion slaves in ostentatious designer clothing. The main point of being there for most seemed to be social rather than actually shopping for food. Most patrons were walking around observing one another and exited the store with their paltry purchases to sit sipping lattes on the patio out front, to see who they might see and who might see them. It was quite the fashion show and status-parade.

The next day, I happened to be at the Whole Foods on South Colorado Boulevard in conservative, Republican Highlands Ranch. The parking lot was full of large luxury SUVs and expensive German sedans, and the store was full of middle-aged fashion slaves in ostentatious designer clothing. The main point of being there for most seemed to be social rather than actually shopping for food. Most patrons were walking around observing one another and exited the store with their paltry purchases to sit sipping lattes on the patio out front, to see who they might see and who might see them. It was quite the fashion show and status-parade.

I think I get it. Both sides are bad, so don't vote because it's too mainstream?

canyoneer: I was at the Whole Paycheck at Pearl and 30th in liberal, Democratic Boulder just a couple weeks ago. The parking lot was full of large luxury SUVs and expensive German sedans, and the store was full of middle-aged fashion slaves in ostentatious designer clothing. The main point of being there for most seemed to be social rather than actually shopping for food. Most patrons were walking around observing one another and exited the store with their paltry purchases to sit sipping lattes on the patio out front, to see who they might see and who might see them. It was quite the fashion show and status-parade.

The next day, I happened to be at the Whole Foods on South Colorado Boulevard in conservative, Republican Highlands Ranch. The parking lot was full of large luxury SUVs and expensive German sedans, and the store was full of middle-aged fashion slaves in ostentatious designer clothing. The main point of being there for most seemed to be social rather than actually shopping for food. Most patrons were walking around observing one another and exited the store with their paltry purchases to sit sipping lattes on the patio out front, to see who they might see and who might see them. It was quite the fashion show and status-parade.

I see what you did there.

Frosty_Icehole: I think I get it.

Evidently not.

canyoneer: I was at the Whole Paycheck at Pearl and 30th in liberal, Democratic Boulder just a couple weeks ago. The parking lot was full of large luxury SUVs and expensive German sedans, and the store was full of middle-aged fashion slaves in ostentatious designer clothing. The main point of being there for most seemed to be social rather than actually shopping for food. Most patrons were walking around observing one another and exited the store with their paltry purchases to sit sipping lattes on the patio out front, to see who they might see and who might see them. It was quite the fashion show and status-parade.

The next day, I happened to be at the Whole Foods on South Colorado Boulevard in conservative, Republican Highlands Ranch. The parking lot was full of large luxury SUVs and expensive German sedans, and the store was full of middle-aged fashion slaves in ostentatious designer clothing. The main point of being there for most seemed to be social rather than actually shopping for food. Most patrons were walking around observing one another and exited the store with their paltry purchases to sit sipping lattes on the patio out front, to see who they might see and who might see them. It was quite the fashion show and status-parade.


Well played sir.

Bu bu bu but organic is greenerer!

I drink organic milk, since it is one of the few organic products that actually must meet very strict standards. (A lot or "organic" is just marketing hype). I do this because most brands of milk have hormones, pesticides, antibiotics, etc. Do not want. Organic milk is usually fresher, too. But right now, it's running about $10/gal in my area and many brands are either not available or have limited availability. Luckily, I don't drink that much of it, but another problem is that some producers are producing only gallon containers. There's no way my wife and I could drink so much milk before it sours.

/not a first world problem, but it still sucks.

meat0918: Plus, there is a lot of encouragement to actually let fields lie fallow, rather than put corn in the same field for 5 years running...

I thought this was Farming 101. You have to rotate your crops.

meat0918: I'm curious where you get the data item that organic takes more fertilizer.

This was specifically in reference to those who consider only non-GM foods "organic." They take far more fertilizer and pesticides since they aren't as hardy.

Huck Chaser: stryker4526: Uh... lack of arable land IS a problem. You ignoring it isn't going to change it.

No, the problem, as I already said, is a combination of distribution inefficiencies, food being wasted, and people eating too much meat. There's plenty of land to feed everybody, and then some.

Also water usage

Uh...very compelling argument. I'll take that into consideration.

, and the fact that depending on how strictly you define "organic" (i.e. do GM foods count?) it requires FAR more fertilizer.

I have no problem with GM foods, since ALL food, no matter how "natural," is already GMed beyond recognition via hundreds of years of selective breeding. When's the last time you saw a banana with seeds?

Organic farming techniques use more water. It's not exactly a secret. That's a negative impact on the environment.
And yes, lack of arable land is a problem. As I said, you ignoring it doesn't make it untrue.

Jack Black 62: DoBeDoBeDo: Wait, there are synthetic cows? "Organic cow" LMFAO.

No, but there are cows that eat only grass, the way nature intended.

So there are grass fed and grain fed cows. Calling it an "Organic" cow doesn't distinguish it from any other cow. I mean not on this planet at least, there could be some non carbon based cows somewhere in the Universe.

Stop being hipster and call it what it is. Grass Fed Jersey Cow Milk. Don't see the beef people having that issue. "Grass Fed Angus" describes both the variety of steer and the type of food product it was raised on.

I'd wager that most "Organic" milk drinkers don't even know that the milk of different breeds tastes different until it's pasteurized.

Shipping cars and car parts halfway around the globe is greener.

shamanwest: The hippies would know. To them it would be the same difference as if I put 2% milk in your whole milk container and didn't tell you. You would know something was wrong with your milk.

I guess, maybe it is different around here, our milk comes in, Homogenized, 2%, 1% skim and chocolate. I've never seen organic milk on the shelf. I've seen other organic food.

/I love seeing ads for 'homo milk' on sale
//we drink skim milk

meat0918: MoronLessOff: meat0918: Plus, there is a lot of encouragement to actually let fields lie fallow, rather than put corn in the same field for 5 years running...

I thought this was Farming 101. You have to rotate your crops.

A recent article about some corn pest gaining resistance to BT corn partially blamed farmers that were planting the BT corn in the same fields for up to 5 years, in conflict with manufacturers recommendations.

stryker4526: Organic farming techniques use more water. It's not exactly a secret. That's a negative impact on the environment.
And yes, lack of arable land is a problem. As I said, you ignoring it doesn't make it untrue.

??? I'm curious why you think organic farming uses more water as well. Perhaps it is again a function of where I live, but water conservation is very important to the organic farmers I am familiar with, particularly given our dry climate in the summer(the Willamette Valley). They mulch and use drip lines to conserve water and keep soil compaction down.

Now, these are smaller farms, not the big industrial mofos that have the 300 foot long sprinkler on wheels.

An organic Danver's or Nantes carrot takes the same amount of water as a conventionally grown Danver's or Nantes carrot.

Maybe it is just a function of only having looked at larger farms, since smaller farms tend to use water more efficiently anyway, organic or not.
Meh, either way I'm not part of the organic fetish and never will be. It's pointless and a harmful ideology due to reducing crop yields. We're getting less and less arable land all the time, we need to be INCREASING crop yields, not reducing them.

Egoy3k: shamanwest: The hippies would know. To them it would be the same difference as if I put 2% milk in your whole milk container and didn't tell you. You would know something was wrong with your milk.

I guess, maybe it is different around here, our milk comes in, Homogenized, 2%, 1% skim and chocolate. I've never seen organic milk on the shelf. I've seen other organic food.

/I love seeing ads for 'homo milk' on sale
//we drink skim milk

Get thee behind me and repint, ye skimmer.

Skim milk is awful. My daughter drinks it at school, and I don't know how. It tastes like water someone put in a cup that someone else had drunk water from and didn't wash.

Ick.

I'm mixing in Strawberry Quik, so I really don't care.