Oh, well. Batting .500, anyway.

Mmm hash browns with a side of death.

for customer

hey cool finally a good gun story.

Yes! I dream that someday this will happen to me. I would just love to see the look on the faces of these THUGS when I draw my cold steel. I can just see them now begging for their lives as I pull the trigger and an onslaught of hot lead discharges from the tip of my weapon and is released on to their faces in a stream of justice!

God, I can see it. Feels so good.

numbone: [Hero tag] for customer.

Seconded. I have no doubt that he prevented innocent people's deaths.

Another concealed carrier murders an innocent man. Blood in the streets, blood in the streets!

Statistically, he should have had his gun taken away from him and used against him though. Guess he won the lottery.

While apparently a legitimate and legal shoot, I'm mentally drawing fire lanes in a typical Waffle House and not coming up with a direction with a safe backstop if you missed the robber.

Since the shooter hit his target, it's a non-issue, but this could have gone very differently.

Why would you rob a Waffle House? They might have, oh, tens of dollars in the cash register. There is probably someone in there nuttier than you are.

Yolanda: This place? A coffee shop?

Ringo: Why not? Nobody ever robs restaurants. Bars, liquor stores, gas stations... you get your head blown off sticking up one of them. Restaurants on the other hand, you catch with their pants down. They're not expecting to get robbed. Not as expectant anyway.

Yolanda: I bet you could cut down on the hero factor in a place like this.

Ringo: Right, just like banks, these places are insured. Manager? He don't give a fark. He just wants to get you out the door before you start plugging the diners. Waitresses? farking forget it! No way they're taking a bullet for the register. Busboys? Some wetback getting paid a dollar-fifty an hour, really give a fark you're stealing from the owner? See, I got the idea, last liquor store we held up, all the customers kept coming in?

Oh good, now we can watch the gunfags cream their pants over this story.

This is why I hate going out in public in states that allow concealed carry. You just have no idea what kind of whack-job you are sitting next to. In this case, two guys come to rob the restaurant, something that happens hundreds of times a week across the United States. It should be a pretty simple transaction -- the staff empties the registers, the customers turn over their wallets and jewelry, then the guys leave without harming anyone. If the cops are competent, they track the guys down and apprehend them at an appropriate time. Instead, this wing nut customer decides to go John Wayne and pull out his gun. That ratchets up the scenario's tension about a million levels. Then when the robbers don't do exactly what Mr. Cowboy says, he straight up murders one of them. Thankfully he hit what he was pointing at and the bullet didn't pass through the robber and into some innocent kid's face. And luckily the robbers didn't start returning fire and turn the whole restaurant into a cross-fire slaughter. The Cowboy Customer needs to be charged with murder, as it was his and only his actions that led to the actual shooting. Cooperation is a much better strategy than gunfire - every single time.

TheGreatGazoo: Why would you rob a Waffle House? They might have, oh, tens of dollars in the cash register. There is probably someone in there nuttier than you are.

Given how busy Waffle Houses can be during breakfast and drunk rush there could be a substantial amount in there. My local Waffle House seats about 30-40 and turns tables every 20 minutes during rushes. So call it $4-6k at the end of drunk rush on 3rd shift if you got lucky.

The amount of cash is probably less these days since Waffle House now accepts credit at most "restaurants".

/numbers estimated and frankly pulled from my ass
//much like VPC's numbers on defensive gun use

With more and more states allowing for concealed carry (and people applying for permits at record rates) at the same time that more and more, ahem, "youths" are brazenly committing crimes of this sort (and many others) these kind of feel good stories will likely be coming down the pike more and more often.

Good shooting, Bubba.

/good boy
//turning his life around
///was gonna go back to school
////didn't deserve to die like this
//etc . . . .

Oh_Enough_Already: Good shooting, Bubba.

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this

spentmiles: This is why I hate going out in public in states that allow concealed carry. You just have no idea what kind of whack-job you are sitting next to. In this case, two guys come to rob the restaurant, something that happens hundreds of times a week across the United States. It should be a pretty simple transaction -- the staff empties the registers, the customers turn over their wallets and jewelry, then the guys leave without harming anyone. If the cops are competent, they track the guys down and apprehend them at an appropriate time. Instead, this wing nut customer decides to go John Wayne and pull out his gun. That ratchets up the scenario's tension about a million levels. Then when the robbers don't do exactly what Mr. Cowboy says, he straight up murders one of them. Thankfully he hit what he was pointing at and the bullet didn't pass through the robber and into some innocent kid's face. And luckily the robbers didn't start returning fire and turn the whole restaurant into a cross-fire slaughter. The Cowboy Customer needs to be charged with murder, as it was his and only his actions that led to the actual shooting. Cooperation is a much better strategy than gunfire - every single time.

Meh, not bad but it gets done in every successful self defense thread.

3/10. You gotta be more original.

I thought the headline described the condition is the toilet.....

/You know
//from the food

The delicious irony is that the one who didn't get shot can probably get charged with the murder of his partner since they were both committing the crime that resulted in his homeboy's death.

#winning.

Motherfarker done got ventilated, yo.

aseras: Yeah just like hollywood the bullets never penetrate either.

Overpenetration through a human target with JHPs isn't that bad, especially since the jacket tends to separate during expansion. If a CCW holder is carrying with ball ammo they are frankly doing it wrong and deserve the liability. JHP won't necessarily stop when hitting drywall, but it should slow more than ball. Theoretically toward the walk-in or the restroom would be a sufficient backstop. Insulated stainless and ceramic respectively should substantially slow a defensive round.

I'd still rather not be down range in said "restaurant".

spentmiles: This is why I hate going out in public in states that allow concealed carry. You just have no idea what kind of whack-job you are sitting next to. In this case, two guys come to rob the restaurant, something that happens hundreds of times a week across the United States. It should be a pretty simple transaction -- the staff empties the registers, the customers turn over their wallets and jewelry, then the guys leave without harming anyone. If the cops are competent, they track the guys down and apprehend them at an appropriate time. Instead, this wing nut customer decides to go John Wayne and pull out his gun. That ratchets up the scenario's tension about a million levels. Then when the robbers don't do exactly what Mr. Cowboy says, he straight up murders one of them. Thankfully he hit what he was pointing at and the bullet didn't pass through the robber and into some innocent kid's face. And luckily the robbers didn't start returning fire and turn the whole restaurant into a cross-fire slaughter. The Cowboy Customer needs to be charged with murder, as it was his and only his actions that led to the actual shooting. Cooperation is a much better strategy than gunfire - every single time.


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Moving along...
I feel bad for the guy, I'm sure he is having a tough time dealing with having had to kill someone. Things turned out exactly how they should and society is better off for it.

I don't know why the modmins continue to greenlight stories like this. Nobody ever wants to comment on them.

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This is why I hate going out in public in states that allow concealed carry. You just have no idea what kind of whack-job you are sitting next to. In this case, two guys come to rob the restaurant, something that happens hundreds of times a week across the United States. It should be a pretty simple transaction -- the staff empties the registers, the customers turn over their wallets and jewelry, then the guys leave without harming anyone. If the cops are competent, they track the guys down and apprehend them at an appropriate time. Instead, this wing nut customer decides to go John Wayne and pull out his gun. That ratchets up the scenario's tension about a million levels. Then when the robbers don't do exactly what Mr. Cowboy says, he straight up murders one of them. Thankfully he hit what he was pointing at and the bullet didn't pass through the robber and into some innocent kid's face. And luckily the robbers didn't start returning fire and turn the whole restaurant into a cross-fire slaughter. The Cowboy Customer needs to be charged with murder, as it was his and only his actions that led to the actual shooting. Cooperation is a much better strategy than gunfire - every single time.

You are an idiot. Tell that to the dead Valero clerk who handed over all the money & got shot in the head for his trouble, or the bread deliveryman killed just because he happened to be there.

I hope you get to see firsthand one day how wrong you are.

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spentmiles: This is why I hate going out in public in states that allow concealed carry. You just have no idea what kind of whack-job you are sitting next to. In this case, two guys come to rob the restaurant, something that happens hundreds of times a week across the United States. It should be a pretty simple transaction -- the staff empties the registers, the customers turn over their wallets and jewelry, then the guys leave without harming anyone. If the cops are competent, they track the guys down and apprehend them at an appropriate time. Instead, this wing nut customer decides to go John Wayne and pull out his gun. That ratchets up the scenario's tension about a million levels. Then when the robbers don't do exactly what Mr. Cowboy says, he straight up murders one of them. Thankfully he hit what he was pointing at and the bullet didn't pass through the robber and into some innocent kid's face. And luckily the robbers didn't start returning fire and turn the whole restaurant into a cross-fire slaughter. The Cowboy Customer needs to be charged with murder, as it was his and only his actions that led to the actual shooting. Cooperation is a much better strategy than gunfire - every single time.

Except that dead guy doesn't get to repeat the feat.

Note: if the perps have an idea that they may take fire at a particular target, they will move to an easier target. Every single time. Simple cost/benefit analysis.

What has 6 arms, 6 legs, 6 tits, and 3 teeth?

The night shift at wafflehouse.

One less person to worry about.

Everyone seeing red after reading Spentmiles' post should do themselves the favor of clicking the little star next to his handle and select a color, maybe a tagline to remind you that yes, you are reading a Spentmiles post. I.e., don't feed the trolls, just observe them.

Favorites: one of the best perks of this site. Use 'em!

Oh, and thank you to Pistol Pete for meting out some swift justice to the POS holding up the Waffle House. Human garbage has been removed from the street. Waffle House is supposed to kill you slowly, not fast, dumbass! Lamont, you big dummy!

This so leaves me on the fence about conceal and carry laws. On one hand, a crime was averted, though one suspect is dead. A cop would have tried to get the suspect to lower is weapon and not risked firing in a restaurant unless he had no choice. (On the street, he would have dropped him instantly.) On the other hand, what if the gun-toting guy really didn't know what he was doing and killed a bystander? I know some people who are experts with a hand gun, but others I don't want to be near when they are armed.

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spentmiles: This is why I hate going out in public in states that allow concealed carry. You just have no idea what kind of whack-job you are sitting next to. In this case, two guys come to rob the restaurant, something that happens hundreds of times a week across the United States. It should be a pretty simple transaction -- the staff empties the registers, the customers turn over their wallets and jewelry, then the guys leave without harming anyone. If the cops are competent, they track the guys down and apprehend them at an appropriate time. Instead, this wing nut customer decides to go John Wayne and pull out his gun. That ratchets up the scenario's tension about a million levels. Then when the robbers don't do exactly what Mr. Cowboy says, he straight up murders one of them. Thankfully he hit what he was pointing at and the bullet didn't pass through the robber and into some innocent kid's face. And luckily the robbers didn't start returning fire and turn the whole restaurant into a cross-fire slaughter. The Cowboy Customer needs to be charged with murder, as it was his and only his actions that led to the actual shooting. Cooperation is a much better strategy than gunfire - every single time.

Wow, you should move to Canada if you feel that way.

JackieRabbit: I know some people who are experts with a hand gun an automobile, but others I don't want to be near when they are armed driving.

Yet, nonetheless, we continue to allow most everyone to drive.

lol, drawing a gun and risking your life to protect money in a register that isn't even yours

Good thing this ended well. Too bad it was probably luck that made sure it did.

It sounds like the CCW holder tried to hold them for the police. One of the robbers decided to try his luck and lost (his life). The other robber waited for the police to arrive.

It's tragic that a person died. Yes, he was a bad person doing bad things, but because I'm not a bad person, it saddens me to think that a young man died on a waffle house floor.

I support CCW, and have had a permit for almost 15 years now. Like most CCW holders, I've never shot anyone. Unlike a minority of CCW holders, I hope I never have to.

Rapmaster2000: Yes! I dream that someday this will happen to me. I would just love to see the look on the faces of these THUGS when I draw my cold steel. I can just see them now begging for their lives as I pull the trigger and an onslaught of hot lead discharges from the tip of my weapon and is released on to their faces in a stream of justice!

God, I can see it. Feels so good.

Actually, once they getto the "begging for lives state" you'd be the one going to jail for your 9mm bukake

spentmiles: Cooperation is a much better strategy than gunfire - every single time.

These folks would like a word with you:

Oh_Enough_Already: JackieRabbit: I know some people who are experts with a hand gun an automobile, but others I don't want to be near when they are armed driving.

Yet, nonetheless, we continue to allow most everyone to drive.

If you think I'm suggesting that people should not be allowed to carry hand guns, you are wrong. But I think they should have to renew their permits on occasion and pass a safety and proficiency test with each renewal. Just about anyone can go out and buy a piece of heat that he may not be able to handle. (ever fired a .45. It can take you off your feet.) And do you know where most criminals guns come from? They are stolen.

lol. can't believe people are actually defending this thug - if you choose to live the life, then you choose to lose your life when it comes to situations like this....as for the other thug, hope he gets "smothered and covered" while in jail. farking thugs.

Thank god there weren't any cowboys with a CCW during this holdup. (new window) Somebody might have provoked those robbers into doing something stupid.

Yeah, yeah. The "cowboy' might have missed, and wounded someone else in an alternate reality. In another, the robbers might have murdered everyone in the place, to leave no witnesses. How about the one where the police get there in time, but it creates a hostage situation, culminating in a 36 hour standoff and a SWAT raid that leaves 3 dead. Or maybe it's a rookie cop that gets there first, and shoots the place up after the warm flow of piss in his pants makes him think he's been shot.

This could have gone a lot of ways.

JackieRabbit

(ever fired a .45. It can take you off your feet.)

Wanna know how I know you've never fired a .45?

Waffle House is the LAST place I'd rob. When I'm in there I pretty much just assume everyone in there (including the cook and waitresses) is packing.

Bought his biatch to the Waffle Hut!

JackieRabbit: (ever fired a .45. It can take you off your feet.)

The same heavy, slow round that I was shooting as a 70# 8 year old? [Citation needed]

imtheonlylp: lol. can't believe people are actually defending this thug - if you choose to live the life, then you choose to lose your life when it comes to situations like this....as for the other thug, hope he gets "smothered and covered" while in jail. farking thugs.

Wow. That is the most racist statement I've ever seen. You take a young man, like the one that was murdered in this article, and put him in an urban prison with absolutely no economy, no jobs, no hope for change. Give him only stealth economies and black markets where his options are limited to selling drugs or robbing people. What do you really expect him to do with himself? And then one of these victims of your white belligerence gets killed doing his job and you cannot help but jump for joy. You think one of the bad guys got taken off the street. But you know what, mister? He didn't, because you are still alive and free.

Was there, saw the whole thing