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2012-01-23 08:26:57 AM  

douchebag/hater: these azzholes need to be found and thrown in jail for as long as possible.

it's all fun and games when it's CBS but it wont be when they mess with the phone systems, shut down utilities and hack into NYSE.


You *do* realize that phreaks have been playing with the phone systems since the 80s, right?
 
2012-01-23 08:29:22 AM  
What's a CBS?


/haven't regularly watched a show on one of the "big 3" broadcast networks in 10 years.
 
2012-01-23 08:35:24 AM  

FizixJunkee: Perhaps if they gained access to the actual computerized voting machines on election night. I get the feeling those things are about as secure as a 12 year-old hillbilly riding in the back of a pick-up truck.


[ ] Basset hounds got long ears
[ ] Hold the pickles

/obscure?
 
2012-01-23 08:35:28 AM  

Strongbeerrules: "Paranoia will destroy ya..."

Like some half-baked legislation will harm the internet.

45 seconds after some SOPA-like ban is passed, somebody figures a way to get around it.


There already IS a way around it. Bypass the DNS, go directly to IP addresses.

Pass around ,hosts files to all the sweet sites. Problem solved.

It's like gun control - you're only making things hard for the lawful, merely inconvenient for the unlawful.

Or maybe more like traffic laws - you just make everyone an outlaw.
 
2012-01-23 08:43:24 AM  

veryequiped: Anonymous is just a tool of the government. It's rather convenient that Anonymous starts shiat after SOPA gets rejected.

Anonymous' role is to give the government something to point to so that they can tighten their grip and get what they want the next round of the SOPA bill on the table

Anyone with even a fraction of a brain can see that Anonymous is nothing more than black ops at it's finest


Except if that were true. The multitudes of people online who always nod sagely or slowclap.jpg to them would indicate that their super secret plan has rather backfired, yes?
 
2012-01-23 08:46:05 AM  

Pharmdawg: What's a CBS?


This CBS might be the same media powerhouse that promoted file sharing software (new window), giving them the excuse to call for laws like SOPA. Or it might be a different one, who knows?
 
2012-01-23 08:47:47 AM  

Damned In The Sand: Here's the thing though, when Anon does something like this the general public reaction is always one of "OMG THEY'RE FIRING THEIR LASER" whereas people who actually work with computers look at it as "Oh they took down the poster". If they had actually managed to, I don't know hack the actual server that contained data that was pertinent to their business model instead of just tearing down a web site it might be a more credible threat in the IT community. Say like when Sony had that major compromise of their player database and lost consumer information that could affect people in a real way. Otherwise this is more of an inconvenience then an actual threat.


It is more "political vandalism" than anything else. I think it analogous to spraying painting a message on the side of the company's headquarters in the middle of the night.
 
2012-01-23 09:12:26 AM  

snuff3r: had a neighbour a few decades ago who kept putting his front door key in a fake rock in a pot plant on his porch, next to his door


Wait, why does the key matter if his stash isn't locked up?
 
2012-01-23 09:14:21 AM  

JohnTuttle: FizixJunkee: Perhaps if they gained access to the actual computerized voting machines on election night. I get the feeling those things are about as secure as a 12 year-old hillbilly riding in the back of a pick-up truck.

[ ] Basset hounds got long ears
[ ] Hold the pickles

/obscure?


Oodles of green noodles make blue poodles jump der shtroodle.
 
2012-01-23 09:16:51 AM  
Bazinga.
 
2012-01-23 09:16:58 AM  
Scriptkiddies aside, isn't the unwritten rule that for whatever security a site/network has in place there is a counter for it? In other words, if a real pro wants into your network they're eventually going to get in?

Caveat: I haven't done anything IT related in years.

/shakes floppy discs at the kids on his lawn
//needs more trace-busters
 
2012-01-23 09:18:35 AM  

MBA Whore: Strafor. They did the same thing to Stratfor.

/ Hawkins. They did the same thing to Hawkins.
// Obscure??


moviespics.wcgame.ru

Not obscure.

Also, I would have posted this sooner, but I was reading about Shane Black, who played Hawkins. Until today, I did not realize he directed Kiss Kiss Bang Bang and that he is also directing Iron Man 3.
 
2012-01-23 09:18:59 AM  

zedster: Weaver95: GAT_00: Wow. That's a new one. Restorable from backups, but usually people don't get kicked completely off the Internet.

they'd probably have to restore from offsite backups, or fail over to an offsite mirror. I don't know anything about how they run their website disaster recovery plan. it's fixable (obviously) but its a pain in the ass to recover from. And they have to verify the integrity of their user data too, which is always tricky.

this is the sort of thing that gives sysadmins headaches for weeks afterwards.

For an operation their size I bet they have a lot of LTO5 or T10000s running and I would hope take hourly snap shots. I doubt they suffered any major data loss.


No one snapshots directly to tape. Whatever was hosting their web page (probably either contracted out or run by the CBS Corp - the parent) more than likely is on a SAN or a disk backup that supports snapshots. Tape is for long term retention.

But this is more likely:

AverageAmericanGuy: Wouldn't it be more likely that Anonymous contaminated an upstream DNS node and pointed it at some other IP address than they actually deleted all the files on the server (and yet left the server in running condition)?

 
2012-01-23 09:26:19 AM  

cmunic8r99: Weaver95: zedster: For an operation their size I bet they have a lot of LTO5 or T10000s running and I would hope take hourly snap shots. I doubt they suffered any major data loss.

Oh I agree - they probably didn't lose any data...but if I were in their IT department I'd be freaking paranoid unemployed after an intrusion like this one.


/CSB

nope. Worked for one of the largest banks in the country... Pointed out that half of all of their shares weren't locked down to the owner of that area and his boss, got told by *my* boss to mind my own business and let them do their jobs.

hacker came in, laughed his ass off and hilarity ensued. -No one was fired, and they claimed they "fixed" the problem. Also they claimed there was no way they could have known this was a problem (you know, listening to me on the phone or reading their emails from me doesn't count apparently). After it was "fixed", I looked, it wasn't fixed. I mentioned it again, and was told to never mention it again. -Found another job.

/CSB
 
2012-01-23 09:44:05 AM  
It should be pointed out that while most of these type of DNS attacks don't really result in much other than the site going down, they are often a smoke screen for something else far more intrusive and clandestine. Should be interesting to see what develops.

Just ask Sony or Arizona law enforcement.
 
2012-01-23 09:44:16 AM  

urban.derelict: [fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net image 640x424]
/anonymous can't be stopped


Ah. So they simply hacked into their load balancer. That's reassuring a bit. They didn't get root on all their web servers.

/Still, it's extremely silly that their load balancer(s) was (were) accessible from the Internet.
 
2012-01-23 09:52:16 AM  

Gabrielmot: (you know, listening to me on the phone or reading their emails from me doesn't count apparently).


So, you could've done some whistleblowing with documentation to prove them wrong?
 
2012-01-23 09:52:57 AM  
Most likely reason for the purge is to hide what else they found/did while they had access to the servers.

If they had this level of access they most likely have full admin access on the CBS network and can do harvest what they want.

Destroying the Web server would be an effective distraction while going in and raiding the real file and e-mail servers.
 
2012-01-23 09:53:09 AM  
I'm surprised anybody noticed.

/CBScares
 
2012-01-23 09:59:47 AM  

mitEj: Most likely reason for the purge is to hide what else they found/did while they had access to the servers.

If they had this level of access they most likely have full admin access on the CBS network and can do harvest what they want.

Destroying the Web server would be an effective distraction while going in and raiding the real file and e-mail servers.


An operation the size of CBS does not have just one web server. Therefore, they either had to have access to the whole bank of web servers, or more than likely, simply gained access to the load balancer and deleted all the rules, leaving behind a single file called "foundry. html", which - quite coincidentally - is the name of a company that makes load balancer!

I quite convinced that anomymous is not currently reading next week's Letterman top 10.
 
2012-01-23 10:07:36 AM  

zedster: It was CBS so maybe the VB'ed the GUI to track the IP address to take it down (new window)


That was awesome. Thank you. I lol'd.
 
2012-01-23 10:17:07 AM  

david_gaithersburg: Anon = Lonely tards. One day they'll discover things called girls.


While there is definitely some overlap between the two, don't confuse anonymous, the group of hackers, with /b/-tards, the group of 15 year old nerds who like post pictures of ponies and jokes about the Fresh Prince of Bel-Air.
 
2012-01-23 10:20:13 AM  

omeganuepsilon: Representative of the unwashed masses: JosephFinn: Have fun in jail, hackers.

Yup random crimes do not make me want to support your cause.

//Behind 7 proxies mofo

Yeah, everyone who breaks a rule/law is WRONG.

/your argument is weak(read: logically invalid)
//even Rosa Parks see's that
///She's farking dead and still smarter than you assholes.


What act of destruction did Rosa Parks commit? What coherent purpose that extends beyond themselves does Anonymous have? A swarm of mental pre-teens sporadically attacking random targets with intent to harm can not be compared to the deliberate and concerted effort to protest peacefully.

Thankfully, Anonymous has the attention span of a kitten, so anything they do becomes moot almost immediately.
 
2012-01-23 10:42:46 AM  

luidprand: omeganuepsilon: Representative of the unwashed masses: JosephFinn: Have fun in jail, hackers.

Yup random crimes do not make me want to support your cause.

//Behind 7 proxies mofo

Yeah, everyone who breaks a rule/law is WRONG.

/your argument is weak(read: logically invalid)
//even Rosa Parks see's that
///She's farking dead and still smarter than you assholes.

What act of destruction did Rosa Parks commit? What coherent purpose that extends beyond themselves does Anonymous have? A swarm of mental pre-teens sporadically attacking random targets with intent to harm can not be compared to the deliberate and concerted effort to protest peacefully.

Thankfully, Anonymous has the attention span of a kitten, so anything they do becomes moot almost immediately.


I see what you did there
 
2012-01-23 10:47:07 AM  
Anonymous completely (though briefly) deletes CBS.com from the Internet...

...and no one even noticed.
 
2012-01-23 10:55:58 AM  
CBS News? I am surprised anyone noticed. I consider a sanity test is any company stupid enough to advertise on any of their news outlets. If a company advertises with them, I consider their good or service to be shiat.
 
2012-01-23 11:13:48 AM  

xrayspx: Actually, given how brief they say this outage was, someone may have just gotten access to CBS's Akamai admin account and deleted the cache or repointed the origin server so the outage was during Akamai's retrieval of all the content from the origin CBS site, which may have caused a bit of a spike in traffic and made things slow and not work?

I've pushed the Akamai "history eraser button" before, and it did kind of hiccup things before our content was fully available again.

/Steeempy, never touch the History Eraser Button


When you guys say "History eraser button" do you mean "Purge by cp code" or is there some functionality I don't know about in the control pages?
 
2012-01-23 11:19:01 AM  
I like Anonymous' persistence and general idea of free speech. But their methods demonstrate some lack of consideration of the power they might exercise. Their actions are often little more than thuggery.

As has been mentioned elsewhere in this thread, they should have used their access to alter stories bit by bit until it was clear CBS was spouting lies. It would have had a much greater impact. Simply erasing their website does nothing to them, they'll be back up soon. Seems like the best way to harm the media is to subject them to the same humiliation they dole out on others. If you get them all repeating believable nonsense that is then proven false, you can bring down whole chunks of activist editors.
 
2012-01-23 11:20:39 AM  

blackheart666: SN1987a goes boom: This kinda shiat is exactly why people will push for stronger internet regulations. Anon does more harm than good, and is probably the worst thing to ever come from the internet.

Never played Ultima Online did you?


What are you talking about, that game was great. I used to play a con man, I sold glitched black ore before coloured ore was in the game. When it smelted it returned to normal, until people caught on I was making bank.
 
2012-01-23 11:35:08 AM  
Wahhh. I can't download free shiat from a pirate site, so I'm going to vandalize other people's property.

Pathetic, but not entirely surprising in an OWS sort of way.
 
2012-01-23 11:57:32 AM  

snuff3r: God Is My Co-Pirate: simplicimus: So user = root, password = root was a bad idea?

That's why I always leave my password written on a post-it note under my mouse pad.

It's called security, people.

I had a neighbour a few decades ago who kept putting his front door key in a fake rock in a pot plant on his porch, next to his door. Needless to say, he was robbed. Then amazingly, he kept doing it and got robbed again. Wasn't till then that he realised how monumentally stupid it was.

Some people...


I keep a key to my back door above my front door. I live on the 4th (top) floor so you'd have to find my key walk down to the basement, through the building and up 5 flights to check if you could open the door. Plus there are only 2 condos per floor so I'm pretty solid and never locked out.
 
2012-01-23 12:36:18 PM  

veryequiped: Anonymous is just a tool of the government. It's rather convenient that Anonymous starts shiat after SOPA gets rejected.

Anonymous' role is to give the government something to point to so that they can tighten their grip and get what they want the next round of the SOPA bill on the table

Anyone with even a fraction of a brain can see that Anonymous is nothing more than black ops at it's finest


...listening... go on...
 
2012-01-23 12:38:06 PM  

advres: snuff3r: God Is My Co-Pirate: simplicimus: So user = root, password = root was a bad idea?

That's why I always leave my password written on a post-it note under my mouse pad.

It's called security, people.

I had a neighbour a few decades ago who kept putting his front door key in a fake rock in a pot plant on his porch, next to his door. Needless to say, he was robbed. Then amazingly, he kept doing it and got robbed again. Wasn't till then that he realised how monumentally stupid it was.

Some people...

I keep a key to my back door above my front door. I live on the 4th (top) floor so you'd have to find my key walk down to the basement, through the building and up 5 flights to check if you could open the door. Plus there are only 2 condos per floor so I'm pretty solid and never locked out.


What is your address again?
 
2012-01-23 12:56:59 PM  

Altourus: xrayspx: Actually, given how brief they say this outage was, someone may have just gotten access to CBS's Akamai admin account and deleted the cache or repointed the origin server so the outage was during Akamai's retrieval of all the content from the origin CBS site, which may have caused a bit of a spike in traffic and made things slow and not work?

I've pushed the Akamai "history eraser button" before, and it did kind of hiccup things before our content was fully available again.

/Steeempy, never touch the History Eraser Button

When you guys say "History eraser button" do you mean "Purge by cp code" or is there some functionality I don't know about in the control pages?


Yeah, just when you go into the cache admin site and flush the cache. If the main site isn't ready for a brief increase in traffic, it might get more traffic than it can handle for a few minutes while Akamai rebuilds their cache. Maybe. If all the planets are aligned in the Year of the Rat. Still wish we knew more about what was actually serving that directoryindex...

--quick check-- Actually, I do know more. "cbs.com" is not akamized. "cbs.com" resolves to IPs assigned to CBS, not Akamai, so it looks like it wasn't an Akamai thing. Netcraft has cbs.com as Apache on Linux, so it could have been served by their host, or it could have been a DNS-based attack.
 
2012-01-23 01:22:20 PM  

luidprand: omeganuepsilon: Representative of the unwashed masses: JosephFinn: Have fun in jail, hackers.

Yup random crimes do not make me want to support your cause.

//Behind 7 proxies mofo

Yeah, everyone who breaks a rule/law is WRONG.

/your argument is weak(read: logically invalid)
//even Rosa Parks see's that
///She's farking dead and still smarter than you assholes.

What act of destruction did Rosa Parks commit? What coherent purpose that extends beyond themselves does Anonymous have? A swarm of mental pre-teens sporadically attacking random targets with intent to harm can not be compared to the deliberate and concerted effort to protest peacefully.

Thankfully, Anonymous has the attention span of a kitten, so anything they do becomes moot almost immediately.


You mean delaying metro service to everyone else in the area and making a whole bunch of people late getting home, or to work if they were working the late shift, with potential repercussions from their bosses?

Yep, that's far milder than CBS losing their website for a bit (easily restored with no data lost) for coming out and openly declaring they support that horrific piece of legislation known as SOPA.

Truly unspeakable damage has been done. Why, their IT department had to stop playing WoW for a full 45 minutes!
 
2012-01-23 01:27:56 PM  
Screw with the Internet and people get pissed, Who knew?
 
2012-01-23 01:38:06 PM  

ByOwlLight: Really I'm Black: so i guess thats why cbs was taken down?

When CBS finally tossed an article up about SOPA and the blackout, they had a really stupid "CBS supports SOPA" sentence thrown into the middle of the thing. I remember thinking, "why the fark would you admit that at this point?" about it. Oops.


I respect them a little more for doing that, disclosure of bias should be helpful to the reader's assessment of the reporting. I don't respect CBS for supporting it, of course, but I respect them for admitting that they do.
 
2012-01-23 01:43:59 PM  

cuzsis: luidprand:

What act of destruction did Rosa Parks commit? What coherent purpose that extends beyond themselves does Anonymous have? A swarm of mental pre-teens sporadically attacking random targets with intent to harm can not be compared to the deliberate and concerted effort to protest peacefully.

Thankfully, Anonymous has the attention span of a kitten, so anything they do becomes moot almost immediately.

You mean delaying metro service to everyone else in the area and making a whole bunch of people late getting home, or to work if they were working the late shift, with potential repercussions from their bosses?

This sort of protest had already been done before (most notably by a teenager). Rosa Parks was hand-picked to carry out the most public version of the protest because she was the poster child for what people could sympathize with (not to say she wasn't a paragon - the fact that she was and widely regarded as such was the point).

Yep, that's far milder than CBS losing their website for a bit (easily restored with no data lost) for coming out and openly declaring they support that horrific piece of legislation known as SOPA.

Except it wasn't over SOPA, it was over the closing of filesharing site. Which other people have pointed out is run by a known crook. Which CBS and Vivendi had nothing to do with.

Also, shutting down phone company sites is potentially dangerous.

Truly unspeakable damage has been done. Why, their IT department had to stop playing WoW for a full 45 minutes!


Did they go after a justice department? The grand jury? The regulating bodies? No, they went after low-hanging fruit because they could. That is not a protest, it's a snit-fit.
 
2012-01-23 01:55:06 PM  

Flab: mitEj: Most likely reason for the purge is to hide what else they found/did while they had access to the servers.

If they had this level of access they most likely have full admin access on the CBS network and can do harvest what they want.

Destroying the Web server would be an effective distraction while going in and raiding the real file and e-mail servers.

An operation the size of CBS does not have just one web server. Therefore, they either had to have access to the whole bank of web servers, or more than likely, simply gained access to the load balancer and deleted all the rules, leaving behind a single file called "foundry. html", which - quite coincidentally - is the name of a company that makes load balancer!

I quite convinced that anomymous is not currently reading next week's Letterman top 10.


They would most likely used the same admin accounts on more than one server (lets be honest that is how it is done all over the place and I doubt CBS is a strict about Info Sec as they should be.

What they would look for is e-mail confirmation of their suspicion of collusion in the cover up of Sopa before blackout Wed and other Crap with the Government. Maybe some nice Blackmail against the GVT for later.
 
2012-01-23 02:39:52 PM  
I hope Geoff Peterson is okay.
 
2012-01-23 03:45:42 PM  

snuff3r: God Is My Co-Pirate: simplicimus: So user = root, password = root was a bad idea?

That's why I always leave my password written on a post-it note under my mouse pad.

It's called security, people.

I had a neighbour a few decades ago who kept putting his front door key in a fake rock in a pot plant on his porch, next to his door. Needless to say, he was robbed. Then amazingly, he kept doing it and got robbed again. Wasn't till then that he realised how monumentally stupid it was.

Some people...


It is not a bad idea to have a spare key outside your house. You just have to be smart enough to put it somewhere like... in your neighbors yard or down the street. The idea being that if someone finds the key it is not going to work in the door they expect it to.
 
2012-01-23 04:52:32 PM  

luidprand: Did they go after a justice department? The regulating bodies? No, they went after low-hanging fruit because they could. That is not a protest, it's a snit-fit.


Yeah, they did. They went after the DOJ, the FBI, RIAA, MPAA, Chris Dodd's website, BMI, Warner Music Group, Universal Music Group, and they released information on the Chiefs of Police for the state of Utah.

I think there might have been a couple more sites too.
 
2012-01-23 05:45:22 PM  

Why Yes I Am A Wizard: Damned In The Sand: Here's the thing though, when Anon does something like this the general public reaction is always one of "OMG THEY'RE FIRING THEIR LASER" whereas people who actually work with computers look at it as "Oh they took down the poster". If they had actually managed to, I don't know hack the actual server that contained data that was pertinent to their business model instead of just tearing down a web site it might be a more credible threat in the IT community. Say like when Sony had that major compromise of their player database and lost consumer information that could affect people in a real way. Otherwise this is more of an inconvenience then an actual threat.

It is more "political vandalism" than anything else. I think it analogous to spraying painting a message on the side of the company's headquarters in the middle of the night.


So, Anonymous is Edgar Friendly, SOPA is Simon Phoenix, and CBS is Dr. Cocteau?
 
2012-01-23 06:01:42 PM  

Benni K Rok: luidprand: Did they go after a justice department? The regulating bodies? No, they went after low-hanging fruit because they could. That is not a protest, it's a snit-fit.

Yeah, they did. They went after the DOJ, the FBI, RIAA, MPAA, Chris Dodd's website, BMI, Warner Music Group, Universal Music Group, and they released information on the Chiefs of Police for the state of Utah.

I think there might have been a couple more sites too.


No, that happened Thursday which, though politically idiotic, was composed of targets that were justified for protest as they were the opposing actors. I'm talking about the attack on Sunday, in which none of the relevant people were hit.
 
2012-01-23 06:24:07 PM  

marfar: I wonder what the Anonymous response to Filesonic voluntarily ending it's file sharing aspect today will be.

Link (new window)


Oh great, where am I going to get my porn now... The USENET?
 
2012-01-23 07:04:21 PM  

Gleeman: So: safe to assume their password wasn't horsebatterystaple?


correct :)
 
2012-01-23 07:22:00 PM  

urban.derelict: Michelle Grossman weathergirl


Oh, man she's got a great rack. I ran into Jillian Mele at a Starbucks near their studio once. She's smokin' hot too, and really cool. Stacy Stauffer is bangin' too, and don't even get me started on Aditi Roy. I want to do dirty, dirty things to Aditi.
 
2012-01-23 07:48:42 PM  

Damned In The Sand: Here's the thing though, when Anon does something like this the general public reaction is always one of "OMG THEY'RE FIRING THEIR LASER" whereas people who actually work with computers look at it as "Oh they took down the poster". If they had actually managed to, I don't know hack the actual server that contained data that was pertinent to their business model instead of just tearing down a web site it might be a more credible threat in the IT community.


I know this goes against The Order of Things, but maybe general public reaction is actually more important than what impresses the IT community.

Or at least is more important to Anonymous' goals.
 
2012-01-23 07:49:40 PM  

Weaver95: SN1987a goes boom: This kinda shiat is exactly why people will push for stronger internet regulations. Anon does more harm than good, and is probably the worst thing to ever come from the internet.

well...unless we find out that CBS got sloppy with their site security. then i'm less inclined to believe that Anonymous is comprised of super hackers and just got lucky.


The publicity damage is done. Even if the password to their server was "Password," CBS isn't going to come out and say it was mostly their own fault they were taken down. Once again, Anon looks like a big scary threat that should be legislated against.
 
2012-01-23 07:52:51 PM  

anfrind: [suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com image 480x360]

My spare keys cannot be seen.


They're hidden in 'NO. 1'.... The Larch.
 
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