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(Deadspin) Spiffy The amazing soccer weekend continue - U.S. beats Venezuela 1-0 on goal in 97th minute. First win over South American team in 5 years (w/video)   (deadspin.com) divider line 28
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2012-01-22 03:17:27 PM
4 minutes of added time and a goal in the 97th minute. Makes perfect sense.
 
2012-01-22 03:17:59 PM
Yeah, but it was Venezuela. There are probably High School varsity teams that could beat them and it took the US 97 minutes to score one goal.
 
2012-01-22 03:20:04 PM
9beers: 4 minutes of added time and a goal in the 97th minute. Makes perfect sense.

Only because their goalie was rolling on the ground in "pain" trying to get the time to expire. The ref even carded their goalie for wasting time. He wasn't having any of it.

Not to mention the Venezuela guy in so much "pain" that he has to get carried off in a stretcher, then pops back on the field running full speed as soon as he makes it to the sideline.....
 
2012-01-22 03:28:23 PM
That and Feilhaber and Wondo should have both been administered rape kits after getting manhandled in the box on the corner kicks.
 
2012-01-22 03:32:56 PM
9beers: 4 minutes of added time and a goal in the 97th minute. Makes perfect sense.

I was wondering how that happened as well...
 
2012-01-22 03:59:29 PM
¡Coño la madre!

Donnchadha: 9beers: 4 minutes of added time and a goal in the 97th minute. Makes perfect sense.

I was wondering how that happened as well...


3 minutes were added in the first half?
 
2012-01-22 04:00:19 PM
John Nash: 3 minutes were added in the first half?

lol what?
 
2012-01-22 04:06:21 PM
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Now that I've been an ass, it's a MINIMUM of 4 minutes extra time. They still account for injury time in extra time, tacking it on at the end.

John Nash: ¡Coño la madre!

Donnchadha: 9beers: 4 minutes of added time and a goal in the 97th minute. Makes perfect sense.

I was wondering how that happened as well...

3 minutes were added in the first half?
 
2012-01-22 04:22:40 PM
Chavez conspiracy theory in 5...4...3...2...
 
2012-01-22 05:24:04 PM
Donnchadha: 9beers: 4 minutes of added time and a goal in the 97th minute. Makes perfect sense.

I was wondering how that happened as well...


4 minutes is a minimum of extra time. During extra time the goalkeeper was "injured" so the referee added more to make up for the delays.
 
2012-01-22 07:18:41 PM
LandStander: Yeah, but it was Venezuela. There are probably High School varsity teams that could beat them and it took the US 97 minutes to score one goal.

This isn't exactly the US A-Squad. The January friendlies have long been about giving youngish MLS players a little warmup and a chance to get their name in front of the USMNT coach and staff for possible development/sub slots as they come up. We don't pull guys out of the Europe seasons for meaningless games in Panama.

That said, my hometown Sporks showed pretty well last night. As long as they aren't hurt, it'll be darned good for Teal, Zusi and CJ to be playing these games.
 
2012-01-22 07:38:35 PM
Chupacabra Sandwich: Donnchadha: 9beers: 4 minutes of added time and a goal in the 97th minute. Makes perfect sense.

I was wondering how that happened as well...

4 minutes is a minimum of extra time. During extra time the goalkeeper was "injured" so the referee added more to make up for the delays.


Stoppage time in stoppage time -- seems legit.

That's the only thing I don't like about soccer. The game is over when the ref says it is, and you really have no exact idea until he blows the whistle.
 
2012-01-22 07:46:56 PM
Donnchadha: That's the only thing I don't like about soccer. The game is over when the ref says it is, and you really have no exact idea until he blows the whistle.

Soccer isn't a game that you can just throw up a buzzer beater. You have to create possesion and set up an attack. It's left to the referee's discretion to allow that. Usually once stoppage time is over, the ref allows a team an opportunity if they are in the attacking zone or take a set piece or whatever. Once the ball is cleared the whistle will usually blow.
 
2012-01-22 08:17:33 PM
Meanwhile it's 35 minutes into the US Women vs Guatemala and the scores 6-0.

These ladies aren't taking any chances and are just demolishing their opponents this year.
 
2012-01-22 08:25:05 PM
Donnchadha: 9beers: 4 minutes of added time and a goal in the 97th minute. Makes perfect sense.

I was wondering how that happened as well...


The goal keeper faked an injury from about 90:00 to 93:40 so the ref decided to tack on another 4 minutes of injury time.
 
2012-01-22 09:12:28 PM
I really hope Klinsmann is the answer for the USMNT. Wasn't too concerned with the results from last year and glad to see some of the younger players getting time in international friendlies.

Question to fans, how long before we should pay attention to the results and more importantly the quality of play???
 
2012-01-22 09:43:49 PM
Mr_H: Meanwhile it's 35 minutes into the US Women vs Guatemala and the scores 6-0.

These ladies aren't taking any chances and are just demolishing their opponents this year.


Final score: 13-0
 
2012-01-22 09:48:17 PM
jpo2269: I really hope Klinsmann is the answer for the USMNT. Wasn't too concerned with the results from last year and glad to see some of the younger players getting time in international friendlies.

Question to fans, how long before we should pay attention to the results and more importantly the quality of play???


When WC qualifying starts.
 
2012-01-22 09:59:28 PM
Lawnchair: This isn't exactly the US A-Squad. The January friendlies have long been about giving youngish MLS players a little warmup and a chance to get their name in front of the USMNT coach and staff for possible development/sub slots as they come up. We don't pull guys out of the Europe seasons for meaningless games in Panama.

Yeah, I know. But Venezula?! I know they've shown better recently but, still, they're like the Washington Generals of South American soccer.
 
2012-01-23 12:48:42 AM
Donnchadha: Chupacabra Sandwich: Donnchadha: 9beers: 4 minutes of added time and a goal in the 97th minute. Makes perfect sense.

I was wondering how that happened as well...

4 minutes is a minimum of extra time. During extra time the goalkeeper was "injured" so the referee added more to make up for the delays.

Stoppage time in stoppage time -- seems legit.

That's the only thing I don't like about soccer. The game is over when the ref says it is, and you really have no exact idea until he blows the whistle.


Why don't they just stop the game clock during stoppages in play, like pretty much every other sport does, and they wouldn't have to bother with any of that nonsense?

I understand that soccer is an old sport that likes to cling to its traditions, but the stopwatch is not exactly some mysterious and suspicious new technology.
 
2012-01-23 01:00:56 AM
Doc Daneeka: Why don't they just stop the game clock during stoppages in play, like pretty much every other sport does, and they wouldn't have to bother with any of that nonsense?

Because of what I said earlier. Soccer isn't a game where you can just crank a last second shot.
 
2012-01-23 01:46:57 AM
97 minutes to score one god damn goal.

This is why no one likes soccer.
 
2012-01-23 02:03:17 AM
Ishkur: 97 minutes to score one god damn goal.

This is why no one likes soccer.


Because you have a short attention span?
 
2012-01-23 02:05:17 AM
Woolwine: Mr_H: Meanwhile it's 35 minutes into the US Women vs Guatemala and the scores 6-0.

These ladies aren't taking any chances and are just demolishing their opponents this year.

Final score: 13-0


I think our Women's team could beat Guatemala's men's team. They are not a stellar team.

/Lived there for a bit. I used to see players from the various clubs drinking in bars on the weekends.
 
2012-01-23 11:28:29 AM
Chupacabra Sandwich: Doc Daneeka: Why don't they just stop the game clock during stoppages in play, like pretty much every other sport does, and they wouldn't have to bother with any of that nonsense?

Because of what I said earlier. Soccer isn't a game where you can just crank a last second shot.


So it's up the referee's discretion whether or not a team should get a last scoring chance, and then he'll blow the whistle basically whenever he feels is a good time.

I'm sorry, but that's bullshiat.

That's not an anti-soccer opinion either. I feel the same way about the baseball traditionalists who are so insistent about preserving the "human element" (read as: human error) in officiating.
 
2012-01-23 12:15:41 PM
Chupacabra Sandwich: Donnchadha: That's the only thing I don't like about soccer. The game is over when the ref says it is, and you really have no exact idea until he blows the whistle.

Soccer isn't a game that you can just throw up a buzzer beater. You have to create possesion and set up an attack. It's left to the referee's discretion to allow that. Usually once stoppage time is over, the ref allows a team an opportunity if they are in the attacking zone or take a set piece or whatever. Once the ball is cleared the whistle will usually blow.


Why not handle it like Armoured Wankball (aka Handegg) -- or rugby or gaelic football, for that matter? Time expires when time expires, but the game is over at the next stoppage of play. The clock can also be stopped for injures or other delays, which is taken into account now, but just more officially.
 
2012-01-23 07:29:49 PM
Doc Daneeka: That's not an anti-soccer opinion either. I feel the same way about the baseball traditionalists who are so insistent about preserving the "human element" (read as: human error) in officiating.

I'm with you on baseball, and on soccer. I definitely think goal line technology should be in place at all top levels. And no, the ref doesn't decide whether to allow a team to attack or not. If a team is attacking when stoppage time ends, he will allow it. If a team is simply kicking around midfield, the whistle will blow.
 
2012-01-24 01:56:58 AM
I used to hate the vague soccer extra time, no-clock-stopping, let-the-ref-decide-when-its-over thing too.

But the more I watch it, the more I like it. It is fair, both teams know when they have one last chance, and ultimately this is a different sport with different rules that work.

/keep up the good work Klinsman.
 
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