Mormon Mayhem

/yakkety sax

unyon: Why does it not occur to people watching the carnage to go to the top of the hill and actually divert traffic away from the mayhem?

Because then there would be nobody to videotape the mayhem so that we could all sit back Monday-morning-quarterbacking and making smug remarks about how dumb those people are and how much better we'd have done in the same situation. Duh.

'cause the best thing to do when sliding down a hill is stand on the brake and spin the farking wheel until you're heading the right way.

Do they teach new drivers in the US anything about winter conditions before handing them a license?

J. Frank Parnell: Do they teach new drivers in the US anything about winter conditions how to drive before handing them a license?

FTFY and no they don't

I believe that every single one of those jackwagons that had their brakes locked up, were going too fast or generally didn't know what they were doing and wound up causing property damage should be facing prison time. Those that merely crashed and hurt their own vehicle should be banned from driving forever.

/chains work

Christ, are those people driving on bald tires or something? I've driven in shiatty northern New York weather all my life and never see anything like this and in other videos.

ShawnDoc

Dunning-Kruger effect (new window).

heh. Didn't know they'd studied that one and had a name for it.

We would just say: "A little knowledge is a dangerous thing":

Somebody with very little driving experience won't dare drive in an ice storm.
Somebody with a few years experience may give it a shot (see video).
Somebody with a few decades of experience knows to just stay home.

/You've got to figure that anybody out there at all in those conditions is an idiot.

They were way worse than the Seattle drivers.

Having to buy those jeans from Forever 21 doesn't seem so important when you are barrelling down a street backwards...no frontwards...nope backwards again ...oh hey the car straightened itself ...nevermind they just hit a pole.

J. Frank Parnell: Do they teach new drivers in the US anything about winter conditions before handing them a license?

I don't care how skilled you are, you run into the right road at the wrong time and you're done.

I submitted the original youtube of this earlier, but was it was redlit.

sadtrombone.mp3

Oops, that should have been "but it was ..."

Original (new window)

Bbbbbut my car had traction control, abs, and stability control. I can drive faster because the car is safer and will keep me from getting out of control.

Right.

There are conditions where it doesn't matter how slow and safe your driving. These aint it. Most of those people were going to fast and/or stood on the brakes and locked up the wheels.

Practicing in a snowy parking lot helps more than most can imagine. Might just look like I'm playing to some.

jjmartin: I am curious what time span this was shot over - and if it's sufficiently long, why isn't there a cop at either section of the road? Why is the road still open after the 3rd crash?

Questions like this, I haz them.

Cause theres probably 100 roads like that and they eventually ran out of cops.

But my crossover has 4-wheel drive and all-season tires!

/ blad all-season tires
// and an idiot driver

unyon: Why does it not occur to people watching the carnage to go to the top of the hill and actually divert traffic away from the mayhem?

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SnarfVader: Well, to be fair, they don't really get a lot of snow and really don't have all that much experience driving in bad conditions.

Which is why you stay the Fark home if you a) don't know how to drive in snow, and b) don't have appropriate tires for the conditions.

/ That's not much of a hill.

My neighborhood rarely ever gets a snow plow to go through, so I've gotten a lot of experience sliding around while going slow. It's kinda fun, really. Then again I've never gone more than 20 MPH in those conditions. Some of the people in the video were flying.

Also, that white car that did the 360, had to of yelled "LIKE A BOSS" after that.

jingks: But my crossover has 4-wheel drive and all-season tires!

You know what the "M&S" stand for on All-Seasons? "Mild and Sunny". The term all-season is marketing jargon. In dummy-driver speak, it translates to "summer tires".

Ed Finnerty:
Thank you for that. I hadn't heard about that before and it explains the behavior of a lot of my coworkers most Farkers

FTFY

farking twats, everyone of these people.

9beers: I don't care how skilled you are, you run into the right road at the wrong time and you're done

I live in Nova Scotia. You won't find worse winter conditions anywhere in North America. Sheets of ice for roads are commonplace, and we never have anywhere near that many accidents. We still have some bad drivers who just don't respect bad conditions and go too fast or whatnot, but thankfully they're a minority. My only real concern in bad conditions is one of those assholes hitting me.

Little_Dictator: Christ, are those people driving on bald tires or something? I've driven in shiatty northern New York weather all my life and never see anything like this and in other videos.

I moved to Southwest Wyoming (less than 40 miles from the Utah line) from Alabama. I can attest that Salt Lake drivers are the worst I have ever encountered. This coming from a man that for several years drove in Philadelphia and Boston on a semi-regular basis, and Atlanta far more often than that.

Also, as a volunteer EMT that works wrecks along I-80, I can tell you that the vast majority are caused by Utah drivers that have bald tires. I have NEVER seen such a high percentage of people drive on tires that bad.

Last summer, I responded to a wreck where an Ogden man driving a quad-cab 1/2 ton pickup--yes, 1/2 ton--was towing a 22 or 24-foot camper trailer that had a trailer behind THAT with two-four wheelers loaded on it. Every single one of the 24 tires in that rig was bald. (Well, to be fair, I couldn't tell about one of them on the truck. It was the one that blew and caused the wreck.) His son or son-in-law was following him with another trailer and a boat. Same thing.

Wyomingites call them "Utards" for a reason.

The word of the day is SALT
Spread the word Utah!

Another thing that I hate that is slightly related to this is helping someone get unstuck when they have their wheel cranked as far as they can in either direction.

thus why i brake out my snowmobile when things are like that

or my lawnmower with ice in the grass backs

both work very well

Little_Dictator: Christ, are those people driving on bald tires or something? I've driven in shiatty northern New York weather all my life and never see anything like this and in other videos.

Seriously. I drive in crap like that all the time--yes, in the mountains--and the worst that happens is that people's tires aren't good enough to get them up the hills. It's not like bumper cars. Either those people are driving too fast, or their tires suck. That part of Utah gets plenty of snow; there's no excuse for it.

kf4lar: Wyomingites call them "Utards" for a reason.

Call em utards in Montana too. They always have the prettiest vehicles.

cryinoutloud: Little_Dictator: Christ, are those people driving on bald tires or something? I've driven in shiatty northern New York weather all my life and never see anything like this and in other videos.

Seriously. I drive in crap like that all the time--yes, in the mountains--and the worst that happens is that people's tires aren't good enough to get them up the hills. It's not like bumper cars. Either those people are driving too fast, or their tires suck. That part of Utah gets plenty of snow; there's no excuse for it.

kf4lar: Wyomingites call them "Utards" for a reason.

Call em utards in Montana too. They always have the prettiest vehicles.

It's the way a lot of those people are just driving along and suddenly, the car just veers off to one direction. I've driven in all variations of snow, slush and roads covered in sheer ice and never once had my car go ""Haha, fark you, we're going this way instead!".

I was sitting in blizzard conditions once in Colorado, when and all of a sudden ever other car that was stopped dead in traffic started to just slide off the road. I guess the road must have hit that perfect temperature.

I took this picture from my vehicle (which also magically slide off). They had National Guard pulling people from their cars on I-70. I wasn't used to that kind of weather at the time. It went from nothing to 12" of snow in about an hour and a half. I learned the definition of a "white out" that day.

casual disregard: J. Frank Parnell: I live in Nova Scotia. You won't find worse winter conditions anywhere in North America. Sheets of ice for roads are commonplace, and we never have anywhere near that many accidents.

Little_Dictator: I've driven in shiatty northern New York weather all my life and never see anything like this and in other videos

cryinoutloud: I drive in crap like that all the time--yes, in the mountains--and the worst that happens is that people's tires aren't good enough to get them up the hills. It's not like bumper cars. Either those people are driving too fast, or their tires suck.

Yes, you're lived in snow and ice all your life. That's great! As a result, however, you are vastly underestimating your own experience and vastly overestimating the experiences of people who do not regularly drive on ice.

There's a whole world out there. Billions of people are clueless when it comes to winter driving conditions.

Perhaps, but common sense goes a long way. A lot of those people were simply going way too fast. You don't need experience to know that when the roads are slippery, you go slow and careful. And don't use tires that apparently have been triple coated in goose fat.

I've only driven once in really bad snow conditions, while living in NY. It dumped for hours while I was at work, probably the worst snow storm I'd ever seen. Luckily, I worked the night shift, so I was on the road at about 3am. Mostly everyone was already off the roads, so I just took my time and followed behind other cars so that the snow was already packed down. A 20 min drive turned into an hour, but I got home safe, didn't hit anyone or anything. Wasn't fun, but it's doable if your not an idiot.

Some people know how to drive in snow.

Some people drive SUVs.