The modern GOP is the greatest threat the United States has ever faced. Neither Hitler nor Stalin nor Bin Laden had anything on these guys as far as directly threatening the American way of life goes.

Oh man. He should totally do this.

I wish I could hold someone or something hostage in order to get a better return on my investments. I think ALL Americans should be able to do this.

GAT_00: Oh man. He should totally do this.

It worked so well for him the first time!

This'll be fun.

Someone wants to take an all-expenses paid vacation to Gitmo.

GaryPDX: You guys do know that "Payroll Tax Cut" isn't a tax cut at all? That money is what you pay into Social Security which directly affects what you get later in SS benefits. Your just borrowing from yourselves.

As for Keystone, what the hell. Let China burn that nasty stuff and we'll keep buying from the middle east.

Hi GaryPDX. I think you're going to have to give a citation or two to back up your Weeners. While it seem logical, I believe you're making an assumption without confirming that payroll tax cuts for a short time now will directly cause benefit reductions in the future. My opinion, I'm not too keen on the payroll tax cuts, sort of like how I was totally against the 2003 income tax cuts by Bush II and the GOP Congress.

As for Keystone and your second comment, I'm for a through review of the pipeline without Congress introducing short suspenses to push their political agenda in making President Obama look bad with phantom issues.

Sorry, GaryPDX, but I didn't type Weeners. Methinks Drew's got a new word substituion script running.

/Bad Drew.
//Bad, bad, bad.

GaryPDX: It makes no sense to make Canada sell their oil to China just to appease the envrionuts

Can you cite me where in the Keystone Pipeline agreement Canada is made to sell the oil to the US? You do know that the pipeline terminates in one of the busiest international ports in the country, don't you? I mean, if you didn't, you'd look like a total idiot.

GaryPDX: As for Keystone, it is already well vetted. It's been in the works for years. And if you look at any pipeline map, you'll see there are already thousands of miles of pipelines crisscrossing the entire re

No there aren't any pipelines crossing the aquifer. Fail #2.

GaryPDX: It makes no sense to make Canada sell their oil to China just to appease the envrionuts. We'd process that resource a LOT cleaner than the Chinese will.

Here's a guy who has no idea what the fark is actually going on.

GAT_00: GaryPDX: It makes no sense to make Canada sell their oil to China just to appease the envrionuts. We'd process that resource a LOT cleaner than the Chinese will.

Here's a guy who has no idea what the fark is actually going on.

Here is my shocked face.

Gary: the shortfall in ss tax caused by the cut is paid into the ss trust fund from the general fund. Say what you want about smoke and mirrors, etc but it is inaccurate to imply that the ss trust fund gets short changed by this tax cut. I'm on a mobile or I'd link to something.

CougarJeff: FlashHarry: The modern GOP is the greatest threat the United States has ever faced. Neither Hitler nor Stalin nor Bin Laden had anything on these guys as far as directly threatening the American way of life goes.

I always knew it would come from within.

Wrapped in a flag and carrying a bible

I guess GaryPDX had to be in another thread in 26 minutes.

MaudlinMutantMollusk: CougarJeff: FlashHarry: The modern GOP is the greatest threat the United States has ever faced. Neither Hitler nor Stalin nor Bin Laden had anything on these guys as far as directly threatening the American way of life goes.

I always knew it would come from within.

Wrapped in a flag and carrying a bible

And a copy of the Constitution, interestingly enough.

I believe there's a word for that

The word is: BULLshiat

I'm shocked. Shocked I say.

House Speaker John Boehner (R-OH) said on Sunday that he may block an extension of the payroll tax holiday if President Barack Obama does not approve the Keystone XL oil pipeline.



So what happens later this year when the GOP candidate goes before the voters and tries to gather middle class support for his push to the white house?

GOP candidate: 'I support the middle class!'
voters: 'but your party was the one that tanked my tax cuts.'
GOP candidate: 'um...ABORTION TERRORISMS SOCIALISMS!'
voters: 'right. you've got alzheimers. looks like we're voting for the black guy again.'
GOP candidate: [nazgul screech]

Weaver95: So what happens later this year when the GOP candidate goes before the voters and tries to gather middle class support for his push to the white house?

As long as Fox keeps saying it will create millions of jobs instead of only 4500 temporary jobs and a long term environmental threat, it'll work better than you think.

GAT_00: Weaver95: So what happens later this year when the GOP candidate goes before the voters and tries to gather middle class support for his push to the white house?

As long as Fox keeps saying it will create millions of jobs instead of only 4500 temporary jobs and a long term environmental threat, it'll work better than you think.

...but all Obama has to do is remind voters that the GOP cost them money. NOBODY votes to support a party that hurts their bank accounts. especially not a bunch of greedy bottom feeding prosperity gospel asshats.

There's an offensive image that comes to mind right now. It gets deleted if I link it, but it has to do with a vehement encouragement to engage in a threatened activity, along with a homophobic slur.

Yeah, Boehner. That.

Weaver95: GAT_00: Weaver95: So what happens later this year when the GOP candidate goes before the voters and tries to gather middle class support for his push to the white house?

As long as Fox keeps saying it will create millions of jobs instead of only 4500 temporary jobs and a long term environmental threat, it'll work better than you think.

...but all Obama has to do is remind voters that the GOP cost them money. NOBODY votes to support a party that hurts their bank accounts. especially not a bunch of greedy bottom feeding prosperity gospel asshats.

Republican policies have cost Americans money for 30 years. People still vote Republican.

GAT_00: Republican policies have cost Americans money for 30 years. People still vote Republican.

no, people don't 'vote Republican'. they vote pro-life and pro-family. They don't identify with the GOP anymore, they maintain a laser like focus on their narrowly defined special interest.

So find a bunch of voters who are more interested in their paycheck than they are with esoteric debates over gory abortion pictures and you'll see the Republicans kicked out so fast it'll make your head spin.

Weaver95: They don't identify with the GOP anymore

Do you have any kind of study that proves that?

GAT_00: Weaver95: They don't identify with the GOP anymore

Do you have any kind of study that proves that?

probably, just not lying around my work laptop though. I keep those files and links on a seperate computer at home.

that said, think about it - single issue politics is one of the most powerful forces in politics today. people identify less with a political party and more with a single issue (or one big issue and several smaller closely related issues). that's how they vote now, and not so much for the Republicans or Democrats.

or so goes the theory anyways.

So much for his pledge to present clean legislation.

Wasn't there a thread recently about how Boehner's got all sort of money tied up in Keystone?

Seriously, these people are just baldface scam artists. Amazing.

Meanwhile, moderates like me wish both sides would lose--no pipeline, no more payroll tax holiday further undermining Social Security solvency.

MyRandomName: Is subby arguing the payroll tax cut is a right? It's politics. How is ot different than Obama and his veto threat on the NDAA if language was changed. Subby is aware how politics work right?

I think what most people object to is the blatant hypocrisy shown by the GOP on the whole tax cut thing.

MyRandomName: Is subby arguing the payroll tax cut is a right? It's politics. How is ot different than Obama and his veto threat on the NDAA if language was changed. Subby is aware how politics work right?

Yeah totally the same thing, especially since Obama had money invested in NDAA

9beers: Yeah, Democrats never do the same thing. Nope, never.

changing the subject? really? that's usually a fall back tactic. you would have been better to start off with a straw man, then shift to a couple/few ad hominem attacks THEN change the subject.