Correlation ≠ causation.

Is it dropping faster than the national rate is dropping?

Der no longer terking ur jerbs!

Is this America or what?

We welcome everybody.

Welcome to America; we're open for buisness, dumbass haters who thunk diff...

You forgot your roots, and it's showing.

Dumbassery.

;)

Correlation is not causation!

i have an anti-unemployment rock that i'd like to offer for sale to the alabama legislature.

This thread should be fun

Who could have guessed that cracking down on the businesses that employ illegal immigrants would cause illegal immigrant populations to leave. Oh, right, everyone. Everyone knew that.

Turns out when we remove brown people from the equation white people benefit. Who knew?

Enforcing the law works, who would have thought?

That kind of tears a hole in the claims of a certain pro-amnesty employer's association in Arizona. The one that brings guest workers in to undermine US citizens.

And not a single leaf was blown

I want to know if there was a rise in illegal immigrants becoming legal immigrants. My theory is, "fix your shiat". If you need to fill out some forms, fill the goddamn forms out and be here legally. It isn't some impossible task.

Since they are only reporting through December, I'd say that may be seasaonl hiring is a more likely explaination.

Gunther
"Is it dropping faster than the national rate is dropping?"

1.7% in 3 months? Why yes, i think it is.

Good to hear. Now lets get the other states on board and make it impossible for illegals to find work. Eventually they'll get word that sneaking into America illegally isn't going to cut it and will go through the proper channels.

odinsposse: Who could have guessed that cracking down on the businesses that employ illegal immigrants would cause illegal immigrant populations to leave. Oh, right, everyone. Everyone knew that.

Shame it can't come to other states soon enough. Of all the laws that catch on in the South, this is one I'd like to see catch on in the North. Stop trying to pass RTW, pass an SB1070 law faster than AZEIR can come to try to kill it, and rejoice as the public supports you.

Good to know that in December and early January, just in time for the Christmas sales in line with an improving economy, that the crack down on illegal immigration was the thing that lowered unemployment.

Democratic politicians and activists try to create controversies over the issue, partly by portraying bipartisan efforts to curb illegal immigration as racist.

For example, numerous Democrats have declared that former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney's call for immigration enforcement is "extreme."


Translation: "We're going to call any criticism of our immigration approach an attempt to 'portray us as racists.'"

Seriously, a more likely explanation is that a new bowling alley opened or something.

Outlawing immigrants is like outlawing bees.

Do you have ANY REAL IDEA what you're proposing?

No.

Yer clueless.

Typical oners.

Dumbassery.

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That means we either give it back to the animals or the Indians failed to do that when given the opportunity.

fredklein: Der no longer terking ur jerbs!

How funny is that in the face of evidence that the meme is in fact true, you continue to think the meme is mock-worthy. You are the definition of idiot

Gunther: Correlation ≠ causation.

Is it dropping faster than the national rate is dropping?

Damn, that is one stupid question, Sweet Cheeks.

/Am not sure if you're trolling or if you're really really stupid.

//So which is it, Buttercup?

///Cheers!

The opposition to this is downright funny! Hey, it's a coincidence! This is racist! Really people? They are ILLEGAL. Rather you like them or not, they are not operating within the law. And by "they", I mean the illegal immigrants AND the employers. Yes, when you remove the cheap illegal labor, the jobs will be filled by legal workers, whether they be white, brown or black.

And for the support, don't go cheering to loudly just yet. There are logical consequences for this. When businesses can't get that cheap labor, costs WILL rise. Rather it be in the form of lower cap wages or higher costs of goods and services. American businesses haven't shown a penchant for just earning less and sucking it up.

Still, this is what should happen. It's a slap in the face to hard working Americans and millions of immigrants who arrived here and when through the legal process. Just because some people can jump a border, work cheaply (for the US), and send their money back home doesn't make them right or desirable.

relcec: Indubitably: Is this America or what?

We welcome everybody.

Welcome to America; we're open for buisness, dumbass haters who thunk diff...

You forgot your roots, and it's showing.

Dumbassery.

;)

ya!
tradition!
f*ck science he says!
f*ck high wages he says !
f*ck the fact that it wasn't tradition from 1920 to 1965 when the middle class was born a wages skyrocketed, before liberals and corporate right teamed up to sell out working class Americans and once again flood america with surplus labor to drive down wages and drive up democratic voter rolls!

http://brothertowns.com/pix/migrant_chart5.jpg (new window)

All I'm hearing is *pppphhhhhhlllllllbbbbbbiiiittttttttttt...*

Numbers can't tell you everything...

Close, but not quite, phlibbit...

;)

stirfrybry: fredklein: Der no longer terking ur jerbs!

How funny is that in the face of evidence that the meme is in fact true, you continue to think the meme is mock-worthy. You are the definition of idiot

Weaver95: Alabama's unemployment rate continues to drop amid state-wide enforcement of a new immigration law, despite Democratic efforts to block and stigmatize the popular reform

But did wages rise?

this. and the unemployment rate from what i have read to understand are those people collecting benefits. there are countless people out there whose benefits have run out and can't find work. and even if the illegal immigrant rate drops, how many god fearin' bible totin' pickup drivin' white folks are actually going to go out and work in the areas that the illegals were more than willing to do?
sad thing is, I believe here in Oklahoma 2011 was kind of a litmus year since all republicans got voted in in 2010 and they were just waiting to see how other states were handling anti immigration before they start introducing their own crazy "get the brown people out now" types of laws. Our female governor Fallin has stated she wants to enact similar legislation like Arizona and Alabama to deal with the "rising illegal immigrant" problem in the Sooner State. And other than court challenges, there is nothing to stop her with both sides of the state legislature republican controlled as well as a republican Lt. Governor, AG and several right leaning judges on the state's supreme court.

Alabama, I would like to buy your rock.

minoridiot: Since they are only reporting through December, I'd say that may be seasaonl hiring is a more likely explaination.

Came to say this. I live in Alabama, and I haven't exactly seen a huge rise in white people picking fruit.

stirfrybry: fredklein: Der no longer terking ur jerbs!

How funny is that in the face of evidence that the meme is in fact true, you continue to think the meme is mock-worthy. You are the definition of idiot

Who's mocking it?

imprimere: The opposition to this is downright funny! Hey, it's a coincidence! This is racist! Really people? They are ILLEGAL. Rather you like them or not, they are not operating within the law. And by "they", I mean the illegal immigrants AND the employers. Yes, when you remove the cheap illegal labor, the jobs will be filled by legal workers, whether they be white, brown or black.

And for the support, don't go cheering to loudly just yet. There are logical consequences for this. When businesses can't get that cheap labor, costs WILL rise. Rather it be in the form of lower cap wages or higher costs of goods and services. American businesses haven't shown a penchant for just earning less and sucking it up.

Still, this is what should happen. It's a slap in the face to hard working Americans and millions of immigrants who arrived here and when through the legal process. Just because some people can jump a border, work cheaply (for the US), and send their money back home doesn't make them right or desirable.

Who keeps cooking and picking and working and paying for you?

Just you?

Are you that real-tarded?

Please don't answer.

I ask LOTS of rhetoricals.

;)

sethstorm: odinsposse: Who could have guessed that cracking down on the businesses that employ illegal immigrants would cause illegal immigrant populations to leave. Oh, right, everyone. Everyone knew that.

Shame it can't come to other states soon enough. Of all the laws that catch on in the South, this is one I'd like to see catch on in the North. Stop trying to pass RTW, pass an SB1070 law faster than AZEIR can come to try to kill it, and rejoice as the public supports you.

SB1070 didn't go after employers. It was pretty much just racial profiling to try and catch illegal immigrants on the street. That's why it was stupid. Alabama's law included that but also put in strict requirements for hiring and employment that threatened the businesses who hired those illegal immigrants. Alabama's illegal immigrant population up and disappeared, Arizona's did not.

Weaver95: But did wages rise?

Of course they did, employers have to meet the federal minimum wage requirement when hiring legally.

croesius: I want to know if there was a rise in illegal immigrants becoming legal immigrants. My theory is, "fix your shiat". If you need to fill out some forms, fill the goddamn forms out and be here legally. It isn't some impossible task.

You don't have any idea what it takes to become a U.S. citizen, do you? It's not like applying for a driver's license.

imprimere: They are ILLEGAL. Rather you like them or not, they are not operating within the law.

You know what else is not operating within the law? Failing to use a turn signal properly. I don't see us deporting those criminals.

/Though I strongly believe we should.

Indubitably: Outlawing immigrants is like outlawing bees.

Do you have ANY REAL IDEA what you're proposing?

No.

Yer clueless.

Typical oners.

Dumbassery.

Kind of like purposefully including legal immigrants in a debate about illegal immigrants, eh?

These is verily rong.

All wee ar dewing is to taking of labors Americans won't want to be doing!

I comes to these country for the beeter opportunies, and fark you and your migration laws. You Americans are the fat lazy ones who do not work with your rap music!

THESE posts was written by an immigrant because the fat American was too lazy to troll for his damn self! I bet you don't know or think about that did you fat hamburger eating American!

In all seriousness I'm against this law because I hate the American middle class, I think Mexicans should be forced to accept slave wages, and I love the 1% corporate oligarchy.

supayoda: minoridiot: Since they are only reporting through December, I'd say that may be seasaonl hiring is a more likely explaination.

Came to say this. I live in Alabama, and I haven't exactly seen a huge rise in white people picking fruit.

It's the middle of winter. Alabama is warm, but not like "it's summer in the southern hemisphere" kind of warm. That's where the fruit is growing now. Bill was signed into law this summer and the enforcement didn't really start until this fall.

odinsposse: SB1070 didn't go after employers.

Yep. Also this.

supayoda: imprimere: They are ILLEGAL. Rather you like them or not, they are not operating within the law.

You know what else is not operating within the law? Failing to use a turn signal properly. I don't see us deporting those criminals.

/Though I strongly believe we should.

One is a felony and deportable offense. the other is a minor driving violation and is not a deportable offense.

redmid17: It's the middle of winter. Alabama is warm, but not like "it's summer in the southern hemisphere" kind of warm. That's where the fruit is growing now. Bill was signed into law this summer and the enforcement didn't really start until this fall.

Keep telling yourself this. We had a lot of missing fruit-pickers during the season, actually. Those jobs that were filled by illegals? Again, I don't see more legals doing them. Any of them. Just fewer people doing them.