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That's remarkably awesome.

food prep, wait staff, cleaning maids? no, no one would expect a cruise ship to have a few dozen illegals on board. passengers indeed.

HE HAD A TICKET!

Walker: Warning, may cause nausea.

That's a big looking wave.

I wonder if it will knock the ship over?

opiumpoopy: Walker: Warning, may cause nausea.

That's a big looking wave.

I wonder if it will knock the ship over?

Wave? No--the ship slid off the edge of the world!

Reef it as a memorial to the peeps who died for arrogance. Homeless Italians live in the refabbed upper structure.

Make it happen or regret it.

Leave the exposed rockie right exposed too, mind me, I mean it.

It'll be best.

Lest ye anger the spirits...

Which isn't wise.

Shaman-speak out.

*shakes head*

What just spake?

Swimmers...

;)

Does anyone have good underwater terrain maps of that area?

They say there is a ledge the ship might fall into, not too far away.

But how far away is it? And it the bottom rocky, sandy, coral?

I understand it's a marine preserve, and I know shiat about marine engineering, I am just curious why they haven't taken a barge of rocks and dumped them under the ship to form a wedge or chock.

Titantic is the worst movie evar and I've never understood the whole cruise thing. Never understood the attraction. It seems like a hyper-guided tour. I would feel trapped and would freak at the basic lack of control over simple decisions that you give up on a cruise. Too much of a control freak I guess.

Indubitably: Reef it as a memorial to the peeps who died for arrogance. Homeless Italians live in the refabbed upper structure.

Make it happen or regret it.

Leave the exposed rockie right exposed too, mind me, I mean it.

It'll be best.

Lest ye anger the spirits...

Which isn't wise.

Shaman-speak out.

*shakes head*

What just spake?

Swimmers...

;)

Whatever drugs you're on, I want some.

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BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHM

Confabulat: RoyBatty: I am just curious why they haven't taken a barge of rocks and dumped them under the ship to form a wedge or chock.

haven't we already been through this? This ship is SEVENTEEN STORIES HIGH UPRIGHT. It's over 3 football fields long the long way.

A barge of rocks? You seem to just be unable to grasp the size of this particular vehicle. Humankind has never build anything to rescue something like this, mostly cause we were just impressed we could build it in the first place.

There is no "barge of rocks."

I appreciate your disdain and scolding when I ask what seems to be a reasonable question even when I add an acknowledgement of my ignorance. And I appreciate the time and energy you took to compose your reply to help educate me.



A 747 weights about 900,000 pounds.
A 747 chock weighs about, what, let's call that 10 pounds?

BokChoy: Indubitably: Reef it as a memorial to the peeps who died for arrogance. Homeless Italians live in the refabbed upper structure.

Make it happen or regret it.

Leave the exposed rockie right exposed too, mind me, I mean it.

It'll be best.

Lest ye anger the spirits...

Which isn't wise.

Shaman-speak out.

*shakes head*

What just spake?

Swimmers...

;)

Whatever drugs you're on, I want some.

Bam.

Karmic-love package tight.

;)

Ow! That was my feelings!: Titantic is the worst movie evar and I've never understood the whole cruise thing. Never understood the attraction. It seems like a hyper-guided tour. I would feel trapped and would freak at the basic lack of control over simple decisions that you give up on a cruise. Too much of a control freak I guess.

I think it's mainly for people who don't like to fly.

RoyBatty: Does anyone have good underwater terrain maps of that area?

They say there is a ledge the ship might fall into, not too far away.

But how far away is it? And it the bottom rocky, sandy, coral?

I understand it's a marine preserve, and I know shiat about marine engineering, I am just curious why they haven't taken a barge of rocks and dumped them under the ship to form a wedge or chock.

Figure out how many rocks you need to dump to wedge the ship in place.

Consider that the depth drops to 100 meters and the ship is a good 400 meters long. So even without know shiat about Marine engineering you need somewhere in the range of:

100*100*400 / 2 = 2 million cubic meters of rocks (assuming that the base of your wedge equals the height).

The standard shipping container has a cubic capacity of 192.55 cubic meters. So that's 10,387 cargo containers of rocks. Which is over 50% the cargo capacity of the Emma Maersk, the world's largest active freighter (she can carry 18k containers). I'm sure they can totally get the Emma Maersk unloaded, loaded her up with rocks and on station before the Concordia slides off. Or you could drain the oil. Guess which is a lot easier?

RoyBatty: Does anyone have good underwater terrain maps of that area?

They say there is a ledge the ship might fall into, not too far away.

But how far away is it? And it the bottom rocky, sandy, coral?

I understand it's a marine preserve, and I know shiat about marine engineering, I am just curious why they haven't taken a barge of rocks and dumped them under the ship to form a wedge or chock.


You could cause a collapse of the currently supporting material.

/the physics are not like a wheel and a chock at all

Confabulat: RoyBatty: I am just curious why they haven't taken a barge of rocks and dumped them under the ship to form a wedge or chock.

There is no "barge of rocks."



Alexander did it thousands of years ago and I say its high time we do it again!

ha-ha-guy: Or you could drain the oil and leave it there to rot like almost all other shipwrecks. Guess which is a lot easier?

EmbellishedTFM

Confabulat: RoyBatty: I appreciate your disdain and scolding when I ask what seems to be a reasonable question even when I add an acknowledgement of my ignorance. And I appreciate the time and energy you took to compose your reply to help educate me.

You've already been schooled about this. Now you're just being willfully ignorant. I assume you have never spent much time around boats in your life, if you're comparing them to airplanes.

Okay, so you're the FARK Hall Monitor.

Schooled by this how? When on the first night, I discussed ways I might think could be used to refloat it? That's comparable to discussing how to keep it in one place and not slipping off a ledge?

Why don't you tell us then your bonafides in ocean engineering.

You've truly added nothing to enlighten anyone in this thread, you're just shouting and yelling.

If you actually want to explain what is wrong with using barge(s) of rocks here to do what barges of rocks to elsewhere in the world against tides, and the ocean itself, please do.

Also 2 million cubic feet is the absolutely estimate. As it assumes no loss and that the Concordia wouldn't just push the top of the triangle you formed off (which she likely would) and then roll down the slope of rock of the triangle you just built. In reality we're likely feeling the Emma Maersk up to capacity and perhaps filling one of her sisters to 50% capacity as well.

/in reality while you're busy dumping rocks all your activity knocks her off in the first place

ha-ha-guy: Also 2 million cubic feet is the absolutely mininum estimate. As it assumes no loss and that the Concordia wouldn't just push the top of the triangle you formed off (which she likely would) and then roll down the slope of rock of the triangle you just built. In reality we're likely feelingfilling the Emma Maersk up to capacity and perhaps filling one of her sisters to 50% capacity as well.

/in reality while you're busy dumping rocks all your activity knocks her off in the first place

/farking and NFL playoffs in another tab don't mix

Rich Cream: You could cause a collapse of the currently supporting material./

I believe this, depending on the bottom.

the physics are not like a wheel and a chock at all

I'm not sure about that.

Shaman says inside is outside.

Be careful.

Poke too hard, and you might have a problem...

;)

Ow! That was my feelings!
Titantic is the worst movie evar and I've never understood the whole cruise thing. Never understood the attraction. It seems like a hyper-guided tour. I would feel trapped and would freak at the basic lack of control over simple decisions that you give up on a cruise. Too much of a control freak I guess.

I guess you don't fly much, either (I mean as a passenger).

Walker

Warning, may cause nausea.

The effect is worse the closer a ship gets to the equator.

Confabulat: Didn't you suggest blimps in the cargo hold at one point?

Blimps were my terminology that night for bladders. That is, don't just pump air in to rooms that are not airtight, but pump them into bladders, balloons.

I think that was after someone came up with the obligatory ping pong ball refloating.

I don't care if you're mad at me or not.

You've added absolutely nothing but shouting.

I don't give a shiat if you think I'm silly or not.

I am interested and asking questions.

fark off.

Rich Cream: ha-ha-guy: Or you could drain the oil and leave it there to rot like almost all other shipwrecks. Guess which is a lot easier?

EmbellishedTFM

Enh, she'd only be in 100 meters of water and you could fish her up at your leisure with a pair of hulks. Assuming of course she doesn't break up after rolling down the slope (if she ever does dislodge off it). Given the price of scrap metal these days and the relatively shallow depth, I bet they fish her up if she doesn't break up too badly. Heck there are passenger ships out there that had been written off as constructive losses multiple times, refloated and are still in service.

Confabulat: RoyBatty: I am just curious why they haven't taken a barge of rocks and dumped them under the ship to form a wedge or chock.

haven't we already been through this? This ship is SEVENTEEN STORIES HIGH UPRIGHT. It's over 3 football fields long the long way.

A barge of rocks? You seem to just be unable to grasp the size of this particular vehicle. Humankind has never build anything to rescue something like this, mostly cause we were just impressed we could build it in the first place.

There is no "barge of rocks."

Yup, but we'll totally build a space elevator for the important vacuum mines up there....

Confabulat: I'm not mad at you, but your lack of understanding of basic physics and human capability is a wonder to behold.

Now you know how I feel in Space Nutter threads. " But but but colonies and FTL and impossible materials and infinite energy! But but but the species! Sci-Fi!"

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Superb.

Hey how many white people died? I'm not sure if I am supposed to care about this whole thing or go play video games.

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Very nice.

I'm guessing that any "stowaway" in this day and age was admitted on board by a crewmember.

studebaker hoch: I'm guessing that any "stowaway" in this day and age was admitted on board by a crewmember.

Capacity for the CC was 3,780 passengers. The ship what had, about 3,200 on it? There have to be people who get their friends and family free rides in the empty rooms.

P.S. There is only one = Indubitably.

P.P.S. Shaman translation+ego+duh=there's only one. Peplicators honor that which isn't. Them. It's sad, really. If I had to base my ethereal existence on claiming I was someone else's mind just to feel good about myself, well, I'd be lost and unforgiven...babies, you are worthy of all the REAL love and mind you can ascribe...*smooches*

Here we see a stowaway oompa-loompa, who has just been discovered hiding in the landing gear of a 747.

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Here we see a stowaway oompa-loompa, who has just been discovered hiding in the landing gear of a 747.

Karmic-poopie.

;)

Ow! That was my feelings!: Titantic is the worst movie evar and I've never understood the whole cruise thing. Never understood the attraction. It seems like a hyper-guided tour. I would feel trapped and would freak at the basic lack of control over simple decisions that you give up on a cruise. Too much of a control freak I guess.

Me neither. Anything on the ship you can do in Vegas or theme park or shopping mall. And you don't get to know any places because the visits are so short. The places I've enjoyed visiting the most are almost always the places I've been able to spend at least 3 nights.

I do see some of the conveniences of having everything in one place, but unless you're old or disabled and need the convenience, keep your lazy ass at home if you don't want to walk to find a restaurant and pack your bags once every few days.