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(Bloomberg)   Body count for Costa Concordia skewed due to unregistered stowaways. Attractive young women to be interrogated about any rakish good-looking ne'er-do-wells they might have met on their trip   (bloomberg.com) divider line 128
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2012-01-22 05:04:35 PM
static.guim.co.uk

She handles like a bistro.
 
2012-01-22 05:07:19 PM

Ow! That was my feelings!: Titantic is the worst movie evar and I've never understood the whole cruise thing. Never understood the attraction.


As someone who has been on one, I don't get it either, but I know people who swear by them. 80% of the trip is stuck on the boat. The big attraction seems to be gambling, booze, and food; 3 things which have limited appeal to me, and I can do at any Indian Casino should the urge strike me. The rest of the time they pull into a port of call, and you have 6-15 hours to get off the boat, and try to cram a bunch of tourist stuff in before you have to get back to the boat or get left behind.

So days of boredom, followed by hours of constantly worrying that you won't have time to see what you want before you have to get back on the boat.

I guess it might be good if you're one of those people who has to be forced to relax and stop working, and being stuck on a boat with limited Internet connectivity forces you to relax and do nothing.

Happy Hours: On a different note the captain is claiming the cruise line wanted him to go on this route.


Nice to see he's changing his story yet again.
 
2012-01-22 05:07:19 PM

Walker: Warning, may cause nausea.
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So all you need to do is add a motivational poster surround saying:

STABILITY
It's all a matter of perspective.

I'd do it myself, but it's your image, and I wouldn't want to steal the glory.

/except for 10%
//should the occasion present itself
 
2012-01-22 05:07:51 PM
ha-ha-guy
b>RoyBatty: Does anyone have good underwater terrain maps of that area?

They say there is a ledge the ship might fall into, not too far away.

But how far away is it? And it the bottom rocky, sandy, coral?

I understand it's a marine preserve, and I know shiat about marine engineering, I am just curious why they haven't taken a barge of rocks and dumped them under the ship to form a wedge or chock.

Figure out how many rocks you need to dump to wedge the ship in place.

Consider that the depth drops to 100 meters and the ship is a good 400 meters long. So even without know shiat about Marine engineering you need somewhere in the range of:

100*100*400 / 2 = 2 million cubic meters of rocks (assuming that the base of your wedge equals the height).

The standard shipping container has a cubic capacity of 192.55 cubic meters. So that's 10,387 cargo containers of rocks. Which is over 50% the cargo capacity of the Emma Maersk, the world's largest active freighter (she can carry 18k containers). I'm sure they can totally get the Emma Maersk unloaded, loaded her up with rocks and on station before the Concordia slides off. Or you could drain the oil. Guess which is a lot easier?


Why haven't they called in the Myth Busters to fill that baby with ping-pong balls and float it to a dry dock for salvage/scrapping, or drain the oil and scuttle it at sea?
 
2012-01-22 05:08:26 PM

Walker: Warning, may cause nausea.


Holy smokes, you're not kidding.

As for why anyone would want to go on a cruise... I've been on one and let me tell you, it is absolutely fantastic. Sure the rooms we were in were cramped (it was a senior year trip) at four to a room and a tiny ass bathroom, but if you have the cash you could get a nice suite. You only sleep in the rooms anyway. The cruise I took went to the Bahamas, a couple of little islands I can't recall, and Key West. The destinations were beautiful, and the time spent on the ship was also great - pools, clubs, fine dining. I was 18, partied my ass off, and would go again if I ever could afford it. However if I could afford a long distance vacation, I would probably go back to Hawaii. Not the resort Hawaii, but hostel, island hopping, real Hawaii.

If you don't like water or can't handle a little boat swaying without getting sea sick, then yeah I wouldn't recommend it. But I felt safer on that boat then any plane I've been on.
 
2012-01-22 05:08:37 PM

ha-ha-guy: studebaker hoch: I'm guessing that any "stowaway" in this day and age was admitted on board by a crewmember.

Capacity for the CC was 3,780 passengers. The ship what had, about 3,200 on it? There have to be people who get their friends and family free rides in the empty rooms.


Don't they check tickets at the door. Ya know, like at the movies.
 
2012-01-22 05:09:17 PM

Quantum Apostrophe: Yup, but we'll totally build a space elevator for the important vacuum mines up there....


At least a space elevator is theoretically possible, given tons of money and endless years. Dude above also suggested we tow the boat onto shore to let the water drain out. No really.
 
2012-01-22 05:10:04 PM

Filth Paste: Ow! That was my feelings!
Titantic is the worst movie evar and I've never understood the whole cruise thing. Never understood the attraction. It seems like a hyper-guided tour. I would feel trapped and would freak at the basic lack of control over simple decisions that you give up on a cruise. Too much of a control freak I guess.

I guess you don't fly much, either (I mean as a passenger).


Actually, that is a pretty good point. The difference is that the whole trip doesn't revolve around hanging out in the aircraft. The aircraft is strickly quick transportation to the destination and I'm free to do whatever once I get there. On a cruise you spend most of your time shipbound and seem to be a tour group member when you hit port for 20% of your trip. I just have a different view of travel than the cruise ship crowd, I guess.
 
2012-01-22 05:10:12 PM

wichitaleaf: ha-ha-guy: studebaker hoch: I'm guessing that any "stowaway" in this day and age was admitted on board by a crewmember.

Capacity for the CC was 3,780 passengers. The ship what had, about 3,200 on it? There have to be people who get their friends and family free rides in the empty rooms.

Don't they check tickets at the door. Ya know, like at the movies.


And if you're the guy checking tickets and want to bring your friends along...
 
2012-01-22 05:13:43 PM
Just curious... are there watertight doors that could close off the area below the main deck? and would it be possible to weld plates on the damaged area and the other openings made for rescue access and possibly pump out the water? I heard air bags mentioned at one point... with straps? under the keel and bags on each side... I have seen some marine salvage documentaries that are awesome....don't have any experience in that fiend, but did help a friend raise a wooden barge with a hole in the side from an underwater stump.. used a sheet of marine plywood.. and lag screws.. trying to use a rachet wrench under water is tedious and tiring.. that and some big diesel pumps.. up she came.....
 
2012-01-22 05:15:18 PM

RoyBatty: Does anyone have good underwater terrain maps of that area?

They say there is a ledge the ship might fall into, not too far away.

But how far away is it? And it the bottom rocky, sandy, coral?

I understand it's a marine preserve, and I know shiat about marine engineering, I am just curious why they haven't taken a barge of rocks and dumped them under the ship to form a wedge or chock.




Only thing I've found...
 
2012-01-22 05:16:22 PM

Confabulat: Quantum Apostrophe: Yup, but we'll totally build a space elevator for the important vacuum mines up there....

At least a space elevator is theoretically possible, given tons of money and endless years. Dude above also suggested we tow the boat onto shore to let the water drain out. No really.


Awesome.

;)
 
2012-01-22 05:21:37 PM

OlderGuy: Just curious... are there watertight doors that could close off the area below the main deck? and would it be possible to weld plates on the damaged area and the other openings made for rescue access and possibly pump out the water? I heard air bags mentioned at one point... with straps? under the keel and bags on each side... I have seen some marine salvage documentaries that are awesome....don't have any experience in that fiend, but did help a friend raise a wooden barge with a hole in the side from an underwater stump.. used a sheet of marine plywood.. and lag screws.. trying to use a rachet wrench under water is tedious and tiring.. that and some big diesel pumps.. up she came.....


field, not fiend....oops...
 
2012-01-22 05:25:17 PM

Tsar_Bomba1: RoyBatty: Does anyone have good underwater terrain maps of that area?

They say there is a ledge the ship might fall into, not too far away.

But how far away is it? And it the bottom rocky, sandy, coral?

I understand it's a marine preserve, and I know shiat about marine engineering, I am just curious why they haven't taken a barge of rocks and dumped them under the ship to form a wedge or chock.



Only thing I've found...


That was really interesting, I hadn't seen anything like that, so thank you greatly!

The if everything goes wrong slide is a very sad slide indeed.
 
2012-01-22 05:25:32 PM
It seems to make about as much sense to salvage the Costa Concordia as it does to salvage a half sunken car with significant body damage and a blown engine.

Just sell this one for scrap and buy a new one. Far easier, and no problems. Could she ever be "right" again? Or would she have issues forever?

In this economy, are that many cruises even being sold? Maybe sell for scrap and just keep the money.

/OTOH, I'd love to see some cowboys come in and refloat her using air bags or some such, and save the day.
 
2012-01-22 05:26:47 PM

OlderGuy: OlderGuy: Just curious... are there watertight doors that could close off the area below the main deck? and would it be possible to weld plates on the damaged area and the other openings made for rescue access and possibly pump out the water? I heard air bags mentioned at one point... with straps? under the keel and bags on each side... I have seen some marine salvage documentaries that are awesome....don't have any experience in that fiend, but did help a friend raise a wooden barge with a hole in the side from an underwater stump.. used a sheet of marine plywood.. and lag screws.. trying to use a rachet wrench under water is tedious and tiring.. that and some big diesel pumps.. up she came.....

field, not fiend....oops...


Water tight bulkheads rarely run the total height of the ship. Plus a bunch of the portholes on the starboard side of the ship weren't closed or broke as well. So closing the doors would help, but you'll need a bunch of pumps running until you get her up and stable. It is easier to keep up with influx from some portholes than a 50 foot gash though.
 
2012-01-22 05:26:47 PM

Confabulat: Quantum Apostrophe: Yup, but we'll totally build a space elevator for the important vacuum mines up there....

At least a space elevator is theoretically possible, given tons of money and endless years. Dude above also suggested we tow the boat onto shore to let the water drain out. No really.


BAAHAHAHA hahaha hahahahaHAHAHAAA!!! Hoo boy. Wow.
 
2012-01-22 05:28:38 PM

studebaker hoch: It seems to make about as much sense to salvage the Costa Concordia as it does to salvage a half sunken car with significant body damage and a blown engine.

Just sell this one for scrap and buy a new one. Far easier, and no problems. Could she ever be "right" again? Or would she have issues forever?

In this economy, are that many cruises even being sold? Maybe sell for scrap and just keep the money.

/OTOH, I'd love to see some cowboys come in and refloat her using air bags or some such, and save the day.


She's in a maritime preserve and even sans oil, she will leak a lot of nasty chemicals for a long time. Either the company pays to move her, or the Italian government is going to do it and fine the hell out of the company to cover the cost.
 
2012-01-22 05:28:42 PM

Quantum Apostrophe: Confabulat: Quantum Apostrophe: Yup, but we'll totally build a space elevator for the important vacuum mines up there....

At least a space elevator is theoretically possible, given tons of money and endless years. Dude above also suggested we tow the boat onto shore to let the water drain out. No really.

BAAHAHAHA hahaha hahahahaHAHAHAAA!!! Hoo boy. Wow.


I know, right?

P.S. The many capitals and uncapitals makes me hesitate, QA...These should be RARE (purple). ;)
 
2012-01-22 05:31:30 PM

Confabulat: Quantum Apostrophe: Yup, but we'll totally build a space elevator for the important vacuum mines up there....

At least a space elevator is theoretically possible, given tons of money and endless years. Dude above also suggested we tow the boat onto shore to let the water drain out. No really.


If you're talking about me, no I never suggested that, in addition to just being a thread bully, that would also make you a liar. Yes, really.

So please show us all where I suggested towing the boat onto land to let the water drain out.
 
2012-01-22 05:31:51 PM

studebaker hoch: It seems to make about as much sense to salvage the Costa Concordia as it does to salvage a half sunken car with significant body damage and a blown engine.

Just sell this one for scrap and buy a new one. Far easier, and no problems. Could she ever be "right" again? Or would she have issues forever?

In this economy, are that many cruises even being sold? Maybe sell for scrap and just keep the money.

/OTOH, I'd love to see some cowboys come in and refloat her using air bags or some such, and save the day.


Also for some anecdotal may I present the Svea Corona. Sunk twice, declared a total constructive loss both times, refloated both times and in service for 21 years total. Lots of other ships running around that were sunk or holed once and refloated.
 
2012-01-22 05:32:08 PM

Quantum Apostrophe: At least a space elevator is theoretically possible, given tons of money and endless years. Dude above also suggested we tow the boat onto shore to let the water drain out. No really.


Hey now, don't poo-poo the idea without giving it a shot. I've got my Jeep Wrangler out back, we can fly it out there and hook the winch up. Its worth a shot.
 
2012-01-22 05:33:44 PM

ha-ha-guy: studebaker hoch: It seems to make about as much sense to salvage the Costa Concordia as it does to salvage a half sunken car with significant body damage and a blown engine (and a twisted frame).Just sell this one for scrap and buy a new one. Far easier, and no problems. Could she ever be "right" again? Or would she have issues forever?


And who would want to sail on her?

Come aboard the cruise ship of death! Over here by this muster station is where we found four bodies. Here in the restaurant we found two men dead. And here in this corridor five more. We're having salmon tonight and a lovely magic show.
 
2012-01-22 05:35:24 PM

12349876: Ow! That was my feelings!: Titantic is the worst movie evar and I've never understood the whole cruise thing. Never understood the attraction. It seems like a hyper-guided tour. I would feel trapped and would freak at the basic lack of control over simple decisions that you give up on a cruise. Too much of a control freak I guess.

Me neither. Anything on the ship you can do in Vegas or theme park or shopping mall. And you don't get to know any places because the visits are so short. The places I've enjoyed visiting the most are almost always the places I've been able to spend at least 3 nights.

I do see some of the conveniences of having everything in one place, but unless you're old or disabled and need the convenience, keep your lazy ass at home if you don't want to walk to find a restaurant and pack your bags once every few days.


My aunt and uncle do a cruise every other year or so, and have done so for about 15 years. The way they talk about it, the only appeal I can see is that you basically stuff yourself with three days' worth of calories at every meal, snooze on a deck chair, and then go gambling. Lather, rinse, repeat every day for two weeks.
 
2012-01-22 05:41:16 PM
Reef it, now.
 
2012-01-22 05:45:18 PM
RoyBatty

And who would want to sail on her?

Come aboard the cruise ship of death! Over here by this muster station is where we found four bodies. Here in the restaurant we found two men dead. And here in this corridor five more. We're having salmon tonight and a lovely magic show.


And when you get back to your cabin, you can fall asleep staring at the ceiling, and notice the fingernail scratches under the fresh coat of paint.

Sweet dreams.
 
2012-01-22 05:50:46 PM
I'll try that again:

Sweet dreams.
 
2012-01-22 05:52:08 PM
i157.photobucket.com
Stowaways you say?

/haven't seen any
 
2012-01-22 05:59:22 PM

Confabulat: RoyBatty: I am just curious why they haven't taken a barge of rocks and dumped them under the ship to form a wedge or chock.

haven't we already been through this? This ship is SEVENTEEN STORIES HIGH UPRIGHT. It's over 3 football fields long the long way.

A barge of rocks? You seem to just be unable to grasp the size of this particular vehicle. Humankind has never build anything to rescue something like this, mostly cause we were just impressed we could build it in the first place.

There is no "barge of rocks.


I'm surprised they haven't asked McGyver to put a couple of hot air balloons under it, fill them up with air and prop that thing right up on its feet. Or keel, or whatever ships have. Cuz that's the American way.
 
2012-01-22 06:11:04 PM

fusillade762: Ow! That was my feelings!: Titantic is the worst movie evar and I've never understood the whole cruise thing. Never understood the attraction. It seems like a hyper-guided tour. I would feel trapped and would freak at the basic lack of control over simple decisions that you give up on a cruise. Too much of a control freak I guess.

I think it's mainly for people who don't like to fly.


Took a 7 day last year. Got to visit 4 countries in one week....and never had to repack once. The food was great, the shows were entertaining, the free child care was top notch, and the sunsets from my private balcony were phenomenal. Free mini gulf, multiple pools, including an adults only hot tub on an adults only sun deck, water slides....and made lots of new friends on board at the various activities. The herein was more comfortable than any 4 start hotel I have stayed in, and being rocked to sleep by the ocean at night is a feeling I can't even begin to describe. And this was on an older Carnival ship. I can't imagine what it is like on the "high end" lines. All told, it cost us the same, if not a little less than, a week at Disney. Unless you get debilitatingly sea sick, what's not to love?
 
2012-01-22 06:18:32 PM

ha-ha-guy: studebaker hoch: I'm guessing that any "stowaway" in this day and age was admitted on board by a crewmember.

Capacity for the CC was 3,780 passengers. The ship what had, about 3,200 on it? There have to be people who get their friends and family free rides in the empty rooms.


Dude, don't know about Europe, but port control in Caribbean ports was a biatch. No one gets on or off without a boarding card, and both ships security and local border patrol stand there and verify EVERYONE. There is no shimmying up a dock line anymore.
 
2012-01-22 06:30:12 PM
Those was a genuine interest in the art of ship salvage will find the story of the Cougar Ace (new window) of interest.

Marty Johnson was a friend.
 
2012-01-22 06:40:06 PM

NIXON YOU DOLT!!!!!: fusillade762: Ow! That was my feelings!: Titantic is the worst movie evar and I've never understood the whole cruise thing. Never understood the attraction. It seems like a hyper-guided tour. I would feel trapped and would freak at the basic lack of control over simple decisions that you give up on a cruise. Too much of a control freak I guess.

I think it's mainly for people who don't like to fly.

Took a 7 day last year. Got to visit 4 countries in one week....and never had to repack once. The food was great, the shows were entertaining, the free child care was top notch, and the sunsets from my private balcony were phenomenal. Free mini gulf, multiple pools, including an adults only hot tub on an adults only sun deck, water slides....and made lots of new friends on board at the various activities. The herein was more comfortable than any 4 start hotel I have stayed in, and being rocked to sleep by the ocean at night is a feeling I can't even begin to describe. And this was on an older Carnival ship. I can't imagine what it is like on the "high end" lines. All told, it cost us the same, if not a little less than, a week at Disney. Unless you get debilitatingly sea sick, what's not to love?


Was that a river or an ocean cruise? My mom looked into some really nifty sounding European river cruises (the Rhine, etc). She decided against it because she's too old to do much walking at the stops, but I thought it sounded like fun.
 
2012-01-22 06:42:05 PM

Robo Beat: 12349876: Ow! That was my feelings!: Titantic is the worst movie evar and I've never understood the whole cruise thing. Never understood the attraction. It seems like a hyper-guided tour. I would feel trapped and would freak at the basic lack of control over simple decisions that you give up on a cruise. Too much of a control freak I guess.

Me neither. Anything on the ship you can do in Vegas or theme park or shopping mall. And you don't get to know any places because the visits are so short. The places I've enjoyed visiting the most are almost always the places I've been able to spend at least 3 nights.

I do see some of the conveniences of having everything in one place, but unless you're old or disabled and need the convenience, keep your lazy ass at home if you don't want to walk to find a restaurant and pack your bags once every few days.

My aunt and uncle do a cruise every other year or so, and have done so for about 15 years. The way they talk about it, the only appeal I can see is that you basically stuff yourself with three days' worth of calories at every meal, snooze on a deck chair, and then go gambling. Lather, rinse, repeat every day for two weeks.


I've never been on a cruise but I like eating and I like being lazy. But even for me, I think I'd be going bonkers after 3-4 days. Not to mention the expense, which I have a hard time rationalizing.
 
2012-01-22 06:45:04 PM
The Cougar Ace thing was hard to read.

You could tell by the way they incorrectly used the rock climbing gear that somebody was going to get hurt. They seemed on the edge of control, improvising techniques as they went along.

I know the "pirate" thing is a lot of fun, but get some training and the right gear, and be a safe pirate. Then everybody gets to play again next time.

/kids
 
2012-01-22 06:51:25 PM

fusillade762: NIXON YOU DOLT!!!!!: fusillade762: Ow! That was my feelings!: Titantic is the worst movie evar and I've never understood the whole cruise thing. Never understood the attraction. It seems like a hyper-guided tour. I would feel trapped and would freak at the basic lack of control over simple decisions that you give up on a cruise. Too much of a control freak I guess.

I think it's mainly for people who don't like to fly.

Took a 7 day last year. Got to visit 4 countries in one week....and never had to repack once. The food was great, the shows were entertaining, the free child care was top notch, and the sunsets from my private balcony were phenomenal. Free mini gulf, multiple pools, including an adults only hot tub on an adults only sun deck, water slides....and made lots of new friends on board at the various activities. The herein was more comfortable than any 4 start hotel I have stayed in, and being rocked to sleep by the ocean at night is a feeling I can't even begin to describe. And this was on an older Carnival ship. I can't imagine what it is like on the "high end" lines. All told, it cost us the same, if not a little less than, a week at Disney. Unless you get debilitatingly sea sick, what's not to love?

Was that a river or an ocean cruise? My mom looked into some really nifty sounding European river cruises (the Rhine, etc). She decided against it because she's too old to do much walking at the stops, but I thought it sounded like fun.


Caribbean. River cruises look fun. I am looking at doing a costal cruise up the east coast of the U.S., but don't know anyone who has done any. The ships are smaller, which means more susceptible to movement in rough seas, but looks nice from the ads. Would be like a slow road trip....without having the screaming kids packed in the back of the cat. I do like road trips too....as mentioned by someone else above the time constraints I'm port are a but of a downer, but if you plan right, you can still have a pretty full day and a good dose of the culture.you just have to find someone who knows where you're going, and can tell you what to do to avoid the tour groups and tourist traps.
 
2012-01-22 06:51:27 PM

Indubitably: Reef it as a memorial to the peeps who died for arrogance. Homeless Italians live in the refabbed upper structure.

Make it happen or regret it.

Leave the exposed rockie right exposed too, mind me, I mean it.

It'll be best.

Lest ye anger the spirits...

Which isn't wise.

Shaman-speak out.

*shakes head*

What just spake?

Swimmers...

;)


Is this some kind of rap? Perhaps an elaborate code that at first glance is gibberish, but when the key is applied, it makes sense?
 
2012-01-22 06:59:15 PM

Donnchadha: Paul Baumer: HE HAD A TICKET!

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No, he didn't.


I wonder if the guy who originally said 'he had a ticket' up there in the thread actually thinks that what Indiana Jones said. He has gone his entire life since that moment accepting the incongruous notion that Indy tossed the guy of out of the window, then turned to the crowd and said 'he had a ticket!'

In the next scene everyone in the room holds up their tickets.


So here's where it gets weird.

Does the original commenter think those people pulled out their tickets so that they TOO could get thrown out of the window? This makes no sense, and yet, the 'he had a ticket' persists in that commentors mind. Rather than reconcile the action (throwing the guy out the window because he HAD no ticket) with the rational reaction (everyone displaying their tickets to avoid the same outcome) he chooses to completely ignore the entire formulation of the scene and the communication of all the people involved in it.

He had a ticket indeed.
 
2012-01-22 07:12:03 PM

sonder: Donnchadha: Paul Baumer: HE HAD A TICKET!

[images.wikia.com image 315x389]

No, he didn't.

I wonder if the guy who originally said 'he had a ticket' up there in the thread actually thinks that what Indiana Jones said. He has gone his entire life since that moment accepting the incongruous notion that Indy tossed the guy of out of the window, then turned to the crowd and said 'he had a ticket!'

In the next scene everyone in the room holds up their tickets.


So here's where it gets weird.

Does the original commenter think those people pulled out their tickets so that they TOO could get thrown out of the window? This makes no sense, and yet, the 'he had a ticket' persists in that commentors mind. Rather than reconcile the action (throwing the guy out the window because he HAD no ticket) with the rational reaction (everyone displaying their tickets to avoid the same outcome) he chooses to completely ignore the entire formulation of the scene and the communication of all the people involved in it.

He had a ticket indeed.


WAT?

The original poster was referring to Leonardo DiCaprio who had a ticket in Titanic which he won gambling in a bar. I'm not sure where Indiana Jones comes in, but I suspect the fellow up there who posted the picture just liked that line in that unrelated movie, so he just went ahead and posted that picture.
 
2012-01-22 07:18:43 PM

Rodeodoc: Those was a genuine interest in the art of ship salvage will find the story of the Cougar Ace (new window) of interest.

Marty Johnson was a friend.


That was really interesting, thanks.

RIP Marty Johnson.
 
2012-01-22 07:21:21 PM

Ow! That was my feelings!: Titantic is the worst movie evar and I've never understood the whole cruise thing. Never understood the attraction. It seems like a hyper-guided tour. I would feel trapped and would freak at the basic lack of control over simple decisions that you give up on a cruise. Too much of a control freak I guess.


I'd have to agree, but I went on a Caribbean cruise where they stopped at individual islands and let us roam around for the day on the islands. That is fun.

Supposedly they have similar Mediterranean cruises; I'll do that next if I have the time and money.

Given recent events, I might avoid the Italian cruise lines.
 
2012-01-22 07:22:52 PM
unregistered stowaways Why can't they just say Hookers.
 
2012-01-22 07:31:03 PM

NIXON YOU DOLT!!!!!: , what's not to love?


Norovirus, and cruise line employees who make a lot less than US minimum wage having my credit card number.

Cruise ships = magnets for pervs. (new window)
 
2012-01-22 07:35:57 PM

Confabulat: RoyBatty: I appreciate your disdain and scolding when I ask what seems to be a reasonable question even when I add an acknowledgement of my ignorance. And I appreciate the time and energy you took to compose your reply to help educate me.

You've already been schooled about this. Now you're just being willfully ignorant. I assume you have never spent much time around boats in your life, if you're comparing them to airplanes.


@Confabulat As you can see there are a metric ton of all knowing ass-hats on this site who have egos the size of the ship in question (probably a lot that would act like the captain). Even though you try to ask a general question asking for knowledge, you get BS answers telling you how dumb you are. These are the same people that will call you a troll at the drop of a hat. It really is a nice close-nit group of jerks.
 
2012-01-22 07:40:45 PM

RoyBatty: Does anyone have good underwater terrain maps of that area?

They say there is a ledge the ship might fall into, not too far away.

But how far away is it? And it the bottom rocky, sandy, coral?

I understand it's a marine preserve, and I know shiat about marine engineering, I am just curious why they haven't taken a barge of rocks and dumped them under the ship to form a wedge or chock.


A "barge of rocks"???

Dude, even I know more about engineering than that. It doesn't work like that underwater, for starters. Something about buoyancy and negative gravity and all that in water.
 
2012-01-22 07:42:45 PM
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Am I the only one who sees Captain 'Hoff here?

/should let KITT drive
//use Turbo Boost, we'll LEAP over the rocks!
 
2012-01-22 07:43:38 PM

NIXON YOU DOLT!!!!!: screaming kids packed in the back of the cat


That's just cruel. For the kids and the cat.
 
2012-01-22 07:44:18 PM

LivefromGA: Confabulat: RoyBatty: I appreciate your disdain and scolding when I ask what seems to be a reasonable question even when I add an acknowledgement of my ignorance. And I appreciate the time and energy you took to compose your reply to help educate me.

You've already been schooled about this. Now you're just being willfully ignorant. I assume you have never spent much time around boats in your life, if you're comparing them to airplanes.

@Confabulat As you can see there are a metric ton of all knowing ass-hats on this site who have egos the size of the ship in question (probably a lot that would act like the captain). Even though you try to ask a general question asking for knowledge, you get BS answers telling you how dumb you are. These are the same people that will call you a troll at the drop of a hat. It really is a nice close-nit group of jerks.


I apologize Confabulat, you are one of the ass-hats I was referring to. This was obviously meant for RoyBatty.
 
2012-01-22 07:50:43 PM

12349876: Ow! That was my feelings!: Titantic is the worst movie evar and I've never understood the whole cruise thing. Never understood the attraction. It seems like a hyper-guided tour. I would feel trapped and would freak at the basic lack of control over simple decisions that you give up on a cruise. Too much of a control freak I guess.

Me neither. Anything on the ship you can do in Vegas or theme park or shopping mall. And you don't get to know any places because the visits are so short. The places I've enjoyed visiting the most are almost always the places I've been able to spend at least 3 nights.

I do see some of the conveniences of having everything in one place, but unless you're old or disabled and need the convenience, keep your lazy ass at home if you don't want to walk to find a restaurant and pack your bags once every few days.


Thank goodness we have his douchieness here to tell us all how we should vacation. I feel much better now you turd.
 
2012-01-22 07:55:06 PM
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That Failboat sure looks like a Scenery Gorn shot from Idiocracy.
 
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