Well that's good enough for me. I hope he fries!

Why do I imagine the TV feed showing the camera dipping suddenly followed by the sound of shoes running fast on tile?

"No, he was falling asleep; I just wanted to be sure he was awake."

JasonOfOrillia: Why do I imagine the TV feed showing the camera dipping suddenly followed by the sound of shoes running fast on tile?

Is it my lack of sleep? I don't know. I am laughing my ass off. Oh, too funny.

How do people get the identifying part wrong? It's always the guy sitting at the defendants table with the death stare

Flint Ironstag: Well that's good enough for me. I hope he fries!

No, this was big headlines. This guy was initially arrested for kidnapping his kid from his ex-wife. Claimed he was a secret Rockerfeller. He's suspected for killing a bunch of people.

Too lazy for google, can someone summarize in a single paragraph why it took 30 years to catch the guy?

PRELIMINARY HEARING: Christian Karl Gerhartsreiter walks into court in Alhambra, Calif., on Thursday.

RELIGION OF PEACE!!!!

more like this trial has been a concentrated essence of old-people.
Half blind, demented, easily confused...and guess what, still able to mess up your life.

dholway: Mrbogey: Too lazy for google, can someone summarize in a single paragraph why it took 30 years to catch the guy?

He was a very sneaky conman who changed identities.

this why i wonder how outlaws were ever caught in the horse and six shooter days.

horse a few weeks to three states away, arrive with a new non de plume and no one is the wiser.

/point of parliamentary procedure!

KrispyKritter: dholway: Mrbogey: Too lazy for google, can someone summarize in a single paragraph why it took 30 years to catch the guy?

He was a very sneaky conman who changed identities.

this why i wonder how outlaws were ever caught in the horse and six shooter days.

horse a few weeks to three states away, arrive with a new non de plume and no one is the wiser.

/point of parliamentary procedure!

The limited means of travel, smaller populations, and limited destinations made predicting where they might vamoose to easier during the westward expansion.

When there are only a couple places a fella might go and get food, water, etc. well, you send enough rangers out to canvas those few places and you just might get your boy.

By Helen Kumari and John Zaremba

Weird that it took two people to write a such disjointed article that had so little facts that I think I knew more before I read it

I think the blue jumpsuit threw him off. It's supposed to be orange.

No, no subby. You misunderstand.

He didn't mean the cameraman, he meant the home viewer.

Does anyone honestly believe that eyewitness identification is acceptable, knowing what we now know -- that eyewitness identification is utter crap?

Sgeo: Does anyone honestly believe that eyewitness identification is acceptable, knowing what we now know -- that eyewitness identification is utter crap?

Exactly. I don't know why it's even allowed anymore. You'll get more accurate testimony out of a farking Magic 8-Ball.

/ or a guy who just did an 8-ball.

dholway: The defense must have struggled mightily to resist pumping fists and giving each other high fives.

And how stupid are the prosecutors out there who didn't think they might have problems with witnesses in their 70's and 80's trying to ID a person from over 20 years ago? No wonder prosecutors like it when they can get a suspect to accept a plea bargain. It keeps their court case wins up and the prosecutor looks like they're tough on crime.

I'm so wary of the criminal justice system here. There seems to be too many stories about screwups by policemen and the lawyers.

Anyone watch this show?



THIS EPISODE will make you re-think about our criminal justice system.



TL;DW version: They run a fake robbery and interview the witnesses and the witnesses give some off-the-wall responses to what actually happened.

Mr.Hawk: By Helen Kumari and John Zaremba

Weird that it took two people to write a such disjointed article that had so little facts that I think I knew more before I read it

It's an East Coast publication reporting on West Coast shenanigans. This ain't exactly Bob Woodward material.

And here I was thinking it was the reporter.



/hyenas?

The closing theme to that show is now stuck in my head. Thanks, subby.

/sat through that show at work for a year
//not bad, actually

JasonOfOrillia: Why do I imagine the TV feed showing the camera dipping suddenly followed by the sound of shoes running fast on tile?

Win!

The defendant's name, "Gerhartsreiter," sounds made up. Which reminds me of a famous scene from a movie, probably involving Chevy Chase, with a classic made-up name scene. Can't remember the movie, though..."Vacation"?

White male, balding, glasses. He's guilty.


How do I know? Haha hahaaaaah haahaa MUHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAA!

Kumana Wanalaia: No, no subby. You misunderstand.

He didn't mean the cameraman, he meant the home viewer.

Mr.Hawk: By Helen Kumari and John Zaremba

Weird that it took two people to write a such disjointed article that had so little facts that I think I knew more before I read it

Line of the week. (:

PsiChi: JasonOfOrillia: Why do I imagine the TV feed showing the camera dipping suddenly followed by the sound of shoes running fast on tile?

Win!

The defendant's name, "Gerhartsreiter," sounds made up. Which reminds me of a famous scene from a movie, probably involving Chevy Chase, with a classic made-up name scene. Can't remember the movie, though..."Vacation"?

Maybe The Man with Two Brain with Steve Martin- Dr. Michael Hfuhruhurr

Chevy Chase reused the name as a chant in Three Amigos. Though maybe in Spies Like Us there could have been a scene where he fakes a name.

kyuzokai: And here I was thinking it was the reporter.



/hyenas?

First thing that popped in my head. Thank you!

PsiChi: JasonOfOrillia: Why do I imagine the TV feed showing the camera dipping suddenly followed by the sound of shoes running fast on tile?

Win!

The defendant's name, "Gerhartsreiter," sounds made up. Which reminds me of a famous scene from a movie, probably involving Chevy Chase, with a classic made-up name scene. Can't remember the movie, though..."Vacation"?

Fletch? Fletch Lives?

As a news photographer who covers court pretty regularly, this is one of my greatest fears.

And I don't even kill people!

There was an old game show called To Tell the Truth where panelists had to correctly guess which of three people was who they claimed to be. In this case, they were supposed to identify the bird trainer, and they had the brilliant idea of revealing the correct person by having his bird fly to him.

(The clip immediately afterwards also showcases a pair of the more idiotic game show contestants of all time).

Mrbogey: PsiChi: JasonOfOrillia: Why do I imagine the TV feed showing the camera dipping suddenly followed by the sound of shoes running fast on tile?

Win!

The defendant's name, "Gerhartsreiter," sounds made up. Which reminds me of a famous scene from a movie, probably involving Chevy Chase, with a classic made-up name scene. Can't remember the movie, though..."Vacation"?

Maybe The Man with Two Brain with Steve Martin- Dr. Michael Hfuhruhurr

Chevy Chase reused the name as a chant in Three Amigos. Though maybe in Spies Like Us there could have been a scene where he fakes a name.

Good guesses. Or maybe "one of the "Fletch" movies, as Mob-Doc mentions. Great memories!

kagemaru026: [mediamishaps.com image 541x380]

is there an actual clip of this video anywhere???

CtrlAltDelete: As a news photographer who covers court pretty regularly, this is one of my greatest fears.

And I don't even kill people!

I'm also a photog, but cameras aren't allowed in court rooms here (thank jebus)... But this made me think...

If someone on the stand falsely Identifies you as the perp, can you sue for defamation? Or do you have to prove damages. Anyone know?

bangmaid: CtrlAltDelete: As a news photographer who covers court pretty regularly, this is one of my greatest fears.

And I don't even kill people!

I'm also a photog, but cameras aren't allowed in court rooms here (thank jebus)... But this made me think...

If someone on the stand falsely Identifies you as the perp, can you sue for defamation? Or do you have to prove damages. Anyone know?

To be actionable, it has to be believed and cause you some sort of harm. Or maybe that's libel. IANAL.

Mob-Doc: PsiChi: JasonOfOrillia: Why do I imagine the TV feed showing the camera dipping suddenly followed by the sound of shoes running fast on tile?

Win!

The defendant's name, "Gerhartsreiter," sounds made up. Which reminds me of a famous scene from a movie, probably involving Chevy Chase, with a classic made-up name scene. Can't remember the movie, though..."Vacation"?

Fletch? Fletch Lives?

Harvey Man..fren..jen..sen.. (new window)

Oh yes, wasn't this the guy who called himself Clark Rockefeller? He's already been established as a very good conman who's been at it since about the late 1970s, and given the circumstances of the case it seems pretty plausible that he was at least heavily involved. I mean, this isn't a case of "Let's rake up this 30 year old murder and charge someone who was in the vicinity because the case needs to be closed, damn it," this was someone who had already engaged in a lot of criminal behavior, used a lot of aliases, and had been living with this couple who had been growing suspicious of him and who disappeared at the same time he did.

That being said, if they can't find anything more solid than eyewitness guesses (and how many people could really, definitely identify someone they last saw thirty years ago unless they've got a really distinct birthmark or something?) it just may not be provable. "It looks pretty damn suspicious" is not the same thing as "beyond a reasonable doubt."

PsiChi: The defendant's name, "Gerhartsreiter," sounds made up. Which reminds me of a famous scene from a movie, probably involving Chevy Chase, with a classic made-up name scene. Can't remember the movie, though..."Vacation"?

Otto West: Look, you obviously don't know anything about intelligence work, lady. It's an X-K-Red-27 technique.

Wanda: My father was in the Secret Service, Mr. Manfredjinsinjin, and I know perfectly well that you don't keep the general public informed when you are "debriefing KGB defectors in a safe house."

Sgeo: Does anyone honestly believe that eyewitness identification is acceptable, knowing what we now know -- that eyewitness identification is utter crap?

Unless you are a "professional witness."