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(The New York Times) Spiffy Tombstone, AZ replacing its old-timey wooden trash barrels with solar-powered compactors, the young guns of the waste disposal industry   (nytimes.com) divider line 42
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2012-01-21 11:42:34 PM
they're a daisy if they do.
 
2012-01-22 12:05:52 AM
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Well, bye (to the old trash cans).
 
2012-01-22 12:59:08 AM
Now if they could just get their own water without stealing it from a spring in the Huachucas 30 miles away.
 
2012-01-22 04:49:07 AM
i1.ytimg.com

Nooooo!
 
2012-01-22 05:59:51 AM
You're still a shiathole, AZ.
 
2012-01-22 06:26:00 AM
I wonder what people would think if solar panels could be put to use on tombstones.
 
2012-01-22 06:32:49 AM
RookStar: I wonder what people would think if solar panels could be put to use on tombstones.

Oh fark. I'm hungover. That could be a really offensive comment butfark it, whatever.

/what do you want on your tombstone?
 
2012-01-22 06:39:43 AM
RookStar: I wonder what people would think if solar panels could be put to use on tombstones.

Environmentalist Zombie Threat is the first thing that comes to mind.
 
2012-01-22 07:46:14 AM
Welcome to Futureworld.
Enjoy your stay.
 
2012-01-22 07:59:37 AM
Sorry, but by order of Wyalt Earp, no guns are allowed in Tombstone. Especially not young guns.
 
2012-01-22 08:00:30 AM
Sock Ruh Tease: Sorry, but by order of Wyalt Wyatt Earp, no guns are allowed in Tombstone. Especially not young guns.

FTFM
/more coffee please
 
2012-01-22 08:23:23 AM
What a waste of money. Those things only last about a year. We had some in Orlando, and in Boston. Most are already gone and replaced by regular cans. Not to mention the maintenence is expensive.
The truck can do the compacting, as it normally does. But hey, maybe they are flush with money and can afford to throw it at silly projects, instead of into the schools or local medical facilities.
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2012-01-22 08:35:21 AM
"Tell all the other old-timey wooden trash barrels the law is coming. You tell 'em I'm coming and hell's coming with me, you hear!?! Hell's coming with me!"

i241.photobucket.com
 
2012-01-22 09:42:07 AM
RocketRod: Well, bye (to the old trash cans).

Every time I see that pic i always think he is wearing a hockey jersey.
 
2012-01-22 09:54:03 AM
kim jong-un: RocketRod: Well, bye (to the old trash cans).

Every time I see that pic i always think he is wearing a hockey jersey.


You too, huh? Even though I've seen that movie a dozen or so times, I had to go back and rewatch that scene to get the visual of the whole shirt.
 
2012-01-22 10:04:02 AM
seanwlambert: I don't see how solar powered compactors are any more environmentally better than regular trashcans.

Because they turn the trash into rainbows.
 
2012-01-22 10:35:03 AM
seanwlambert: I don't see how solar powered compactors are any more environmentally better than regular trashcans.

It doesn't. Since the trash gets full less often, then they can be picked up less often. That makes it easier on their small work force. Plus the trash cans use wireless to report when they are full.

/Unless you count the part where they drive around less checking trash cans. That's probably not much saved.
 
2012-01-22 12:00:43 PM
rooftop235: What a waste of money. Those things only last about a year. We had some in Orlando, and in Boston. Most are already gone and replaced by regular cans. Not to mention the maintenence is expensive.
The truck can do the compacting, as it normally does. But hey, maybe they are flush with money and can afford to throw it at silly projects, instead of into the schools or local medical facilities.
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I've actually been interested in this topic for a while. It's been my impression that making trash cans more accessible reduces littering, but that has to be balanced with the cost of can pickup. But if there is a high equipment failure rate then that has to be included, or maintenance contracts agreed to.

I would love to see a report from Orlando or Boston on the failure rate; this would make good investigative journalism and either make or break the manufacturer.
 
2012-01-22 12:42:19 PM
Here's a claim from the manufacturer, Big Belly Solar. I'd like to see an un-biased ROI analysis.


In 2009, Philadelphia was emptying the 700 conventional trash bins in its city center 17 times a week, with 33 employees working three shifts.

One year later - after installing 500 solar-powered compactors - collections had dropped to five times a week by nine employees working a single shift.

That saved Philadelphia taxpayers $900,000, company officials said.
 
2012-01-22 12:43:56 PM
wildcardjack: making trash cans more accessible reduces littering

THIS

I learned that in college. Put the trash can under the sink, and your roommates won't manage to find it. Put it in the open where you can make hoopshots, problem solved.
 
2012-01-22 01:04:50 PM
jaytkay: wildcardjack: making trash cans more accessible reduces littering

THIS

I learned that in college. Put the trash can under the sink, and your roommates won't manage to find it. Put it in the open where you can make hoopshots, problem solved.


I never understood why people put the trash can under the sink. When you have something gross or dripping in your hand you shouldn't be fussing with a door to get to the tiny trash can that's full after a day. Trash cans should be in the open, with no lid, and a proper 33 gal. size.
 
2012-01-22 01:11:34 PM
Tombstone gives me the creeps whenever i have to travel there for work in the area, there is something wrong with that town.
 
2012-01-22 01:54:09 PM
AfroX: Tombstone gives me the creeps whenever i have to travel there for work in the area, there is something wrong with that town.

They paved the streets. That's enough to piss off the ghosts
 
2012-01-22 02:16:53 PM
kim jong-un: RocketRod: Well, bye (to the old trash cans).

Every time I see that pic i always think he is wearing a hockey jersey.


shiat, now that's all I'm gonna see. Thanks a lot JERK.
 
2012-01-22 04:02:05 PM
Fear the Clam: 33 gal

i215.photobucket.com
The second result in a GIS of "33 gal trash can"

/hot
 
2012-01-22 04:18:56 PM
There's a couple of those near my house. Totally pointless, since they couldn't afford many of them; and realistically you need a LOT of trash cans to keep an area clean.
 
2012-01-22 05:12:13 PM
AfroX: Tombstone gives me the creeps whenever i have to travel there for work in the area, there is something wrong with that town.

I was in Tombstone on Tuesday and I have to agree. We got there late in the day and there was a weird quiet about the place totally at odds with the crazily overdone tourist attractions. Sorta had a "Children of the Corn" vibe.
 
2012-01-22 06:16:19 PM
rooftop235: What a waste of money. Those things only last about a year. We had some in Orlando, and in Boston. Most are already gone and replaced by regular cans. Not to mention the maintenence is expensive.
The truck can do the compacting, as it normally does. But hey, maybe they are flush with money and can afford to throw it at silly projects, instead of into the schools or local medical facilities.
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Really? Ours in Albany are just fine. They're on street corners that used to accumulate more trash than a regular bin could handle. No blowing wrappers or rotting anything out in the open any more. They're very nice.
 
2012-01-22 07:37:59 PM
Those things are horrible. They rarely work and seem to fill quickly. They are unusual to operate because they have a mailbox slot to slip in your trash; gets messy and what if your trash is bigger like a box? Worst is this green device actually did take people's jobs in Philadelphia. Sanitation workers were fired.
 
2012-01-22 07:50:34 PM
I gotta make sure I'm not the only one who kept looking for the Doctor Who reference.
 
2012-01-22 08:18:55 PM
TRASH COMPACTORS!!! MOUNT UP!!
 
2012-01-22 08:28:39 PM
Nintenfreak: I gotta make sure I'm not the only one who kept looking for the Doctor Who reference.

Fine, here you go...
i569.photobucket.com
 
2012-01-22 08:31:18 PM
2.bp.blogspot.com
 
2012-01-22 08:33:23 PM
Nintenfreak: I gotta make sure I'm not the only one who kept looking for the Doctor Who reference.

That one and this:
images.wikia.com
 
2012-01-22 09:08:35 PM
seanwlambert: I don't see how solar powered compactors are any more environmentally better than regular trashcans.

The only advantage I can see is that you could pick up trash less often assuming that the compacting trashcans can fit more trash. Though you could just as easily get larger trashcans. So I don't get the point other than wasting a lot of money/likely funneling said money into your buddies bank account.
 
2012-01-22 09:13:01 PM
UsikFark: Fear the Clam: 33 gal

[i215.photobucket.com image 640x480]
The second result in a GIS of "33 gal trash can"

/hot


That crab never looked real to me. If it's real, why is that the only picture of it?
 
2012-01-22 09:22:54 PM
Happy Hours: If it's real, why is that the only picture of it?

It's a coconut crab. hit the googles.

3.bp.blogspot.com

/hot
 
2012-01-22 10:19:46 PM
wildcardjack: rooftop235: What a waste of money. Those things only last about a year. We had some in Orlando, and in Boston. Most are already gone and replaced by regular cans. Not to mention the maintenence is expensive.
The truck can do the compacting, as it normally does. But hey, maybe they are flush with money and can afford to throw it at silly projects, instead of into the schools or local medical facilities.
[profile.ak.fbcdn.net image 200x186]

I've actually been interested in this topic for a while. It's been my impression that making trash cans more accessible reduces littering, but that has to be balanced with the cost of can pickup. But if there is a high equipment failure rate then that has to be included, or maintenance contracts agreed to.

I would love to see a report from Orlando or Boston on the failure rate; this would make good investigative journalism and either make or break the manufacturer.


Taco Bell tried it for awhile in their stores. The cans almost never worked after the first six months and they were always covered in garbage.
 
2012-01-22 11:02:51 PM
Had these in Montreal a few years ago. Only for one summer. I assume these were a scam designed primarily to transfer money from the government to millionaire's pockets, and incidentally creating a few jobs here and there.
 
2012-01-23 12:24:24 AM
Crab nothing... thats a farking Tyranid
 
2012-01-23 12:53:56 AM
Those trash-compactor cans are becoming more commonplace as technology gets cheaper and cheaper every year but the cost of hiring a human being to empty the trash every day stays about the same.

Enjoy the twilight of your relevance, laborer-human.
 
2012-01-23 12:40:14 PM
seanwlambert: I don't see how solar powered compactors are any more environmentally better than regular trashcans.

I don't think these are usually installed for environmental reasons. They're still just trashcans in the end. However, the fact that they compact their contents now and then means they don't have to be emptied as often, which (theoretically) results in a labor cost savings, eventually paying off the higher per-can price and saving the town money.

I'd be curious to see reliability statistics and average maintenance costs over the lifetime required to save money, though.
 
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