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Bathia_Mapes
2012-01-22 12:21:48 AM
Wants...
ShamWowofDamocles
2012-01-22 12:43:02 AM
The perfect home defense weapon.
/for those times you are attacked by a home.
Smeggy Smurf
2012-01-22 12:47:51 AM
Not impressed.
/punt guns are sexier
hipsellipsis
2012-01-22 12:55:40 AM
Meh, I've bump-fired bigger. Dual wielding too.
DerekSD
2012-01-22 01:08:28 AM
for the busy hunter who absolutely doesn't have time to dress their harvest.
Starhawk
2012-01-22 01:12:35 AM
The Emperor protects!
At last, I've seen a prototype boltgun. All we need now is explosive ammo.
RoyBatty
2012-01-22 01:29:46 AM
Heh, anyone else think the shells look like their penis?
vossiewulf
2012-01-22 01:48:35 AM
Starhawk
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The Emperor protects!
All we need now is explosive ammo.
It's basically the same caliber as the army's new XM25 weapon, which fires a 25mm grenade, so it wouldn't be impossible. And probably about the only thing you could do to make that beast vaguely enjoyable to shoot.
Have to wonder why someone who go to the length and expense of designing and building that thing without making the barrel float with a long recoil spring. So, you know, shooting it isn't like have a roid-raged McGwire unloading on your shoulder with a bat.
BigRedMachine_CJ7
2012-01-22 02:09:17 AM
vossiewulf
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Have to wonder why someone who go to the length and expense of designing and building that thing without making the barrel float with a long recoil spring. So, you know, shooting it isn't like have a roid-raged McGwire unloading on your shoulder with a bat.
Because they can.
Seth'n'Spectrum
2012-01-22 02:19:07 AM
Quick question for the benefit of those of us that are not very gun-smart: could you actually hit something with that gun or would the recoil throw you off?
vossiewulf
2012-01-22 02:21:25 AM
Seth'n'Spectrum
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Quick question for the benefit of those of us that are not very gun-smart: could you actually hit something with that gun or would the recoil throw you off?
Round is long gone from the barrel by the time you get the recoil. However, flinching in anticipation of getting hit in the shoulder with a 95mph fastball certainly can.
Bathia_Mapes
2012-01-22 02:39:18 AM
Seth'n'Spectrum
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Quick question for the benefit of those of us that are not very gun-smart: could you actually hit something with that gun or would the recoil throw you off?
I wondered that myself, They didn't show any targets so it's kind of difficult to judge how accurate this weapon was, especially with the amount of recoil.
RoyBatty
2012-01-22 02:43:39 AM
Bathia_Mapes
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Seth'n'Spectrum: Quick question for the benefit of those of us that are not very gun-smart: could you actually hit something with that gun or would the recoil throw you off?
I wondered that myself, They didn't show any targets so it's kind of difficult to judge how accurate this weapon was, especially with the amount of recoil.
I thought the video was pretty lousy precisely because they did not show us the targets.
What does a shell like this do? How far does it go?
We got a bunch of shots of recoil.
boobsrgood
2012-01-22 02:59:43 AM
RoyBatty
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Bathia_Mapes: Seth'n'Spectrum: Quick question for the benefit of those of us that are not very gun-smart: could you actually hit something with that gun or would the recoil throw you off?
We got a bunch of shots of recoil.
That's what I wanted to see: the men. Good job camera...man.
rev. dave
2012-01-22 05:23:30 AM
That thing should have a hydraulic recoil suppressor. Mount it on a tank and belt feed it and it might be useful.
RoyBatty
2012-01-22 05:41:41 AM
rev. dave
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That thing should have a hydraulic recoil suppressor. Mount it on a tank and belt feed it and it might be useful.
After they described how powerful it was, I was surprised they shot it like they did and didn't have it locked down on some stand.
But again, I assume it's a worthless device, completely inaccurate and ineffective expensive piece of shiat because they never showed us the results of shooting something with it.
I suspect the bullet landed a mile away in someone's backyard missing their backstop entirely.
Ed Finnerty
2012-01-22 06:38:19 AM
RoyBatty
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I thought the video was pretty lousy precisely because they did not show us the targets.
What does a shell like this do? How far does it go?
We got a bunch of shots of recoil.
Came here to say exactly that. I wanted to see the damage that came out of the other end of that thing, not some pudgy guy talking about the recoil.
Xai
2012-01-22 07:59:01 AM
Ed Finnerty
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RoyBatty: I thought the video was pretty lousy precisely because they did not show us the targets.
What does a shell like this do? How far does it go?
We got a bunch of shots of recoil.
Came here to say exactly that. I wanted to see the damage that came out of the other end of that thing, not some pudgy guy talking about the recoil.
yeah, i mean they might as well be shooting blanks
D-D-D-Dave
2012-01-22 09:33:57 AM
Smeggy Smurf
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[www.neatorama.com image 500x413]
Not impressed.
/punt guns are sexier
That is such a cool picture. I almost thought that it was some sort of hipster retro-recreation, but I don't think hipsters could ever do anything that cool.
Slives
2012-01-22 09:35:37 AM
Xai
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Ed Finnerty: RoyBatty: I thought the video was pretty lousy precisely because they did not show us the targets.
What does a shell like this do? How far does it go?
We got a bunch of shots of recoil.
Came here to say exactly that. I wanted to see the damage that came out of the other end of that thing, not some pudgy guy talking about the recoil.
yeah, i mean they might as well be shooting blanks
Agreed. Come back when two things happen.
Show us a 95 lbs chick shooting the weapon.
Show us the target being hit.
littlebeartoe
2012-01-22 09:46:51 AM
The video is incomplete. I want to see their naked shoulders 24 and 48 hours later. Sounds gay, and it might be, but still.
Really I'm Black
2012-01-22 09:52:13 AM
farking rednecks and their guns.
they could have at least shown the damage the target took
craigdamage
2012-01-22 11:06:07 AM
.950 caliber is 25mm.
I imagine a tungsten round would penetrate several feet of concrete.
John Buck 41
2012-01-22 11:18:41 AM
Headline made me think of boobs.
//anyone else?
croesius
2012-01-22 11:38:58 AM
John Buck 41
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Headline made me think of boobs.
//anyone else?
I read it as "Tittieosaurus" and was quite disappointed.
booksmart
2012-01-22 11:51:20 AM
I would like to see what a round out of that would do to a line of watermelons.
I imagine it's quite accurate.... on that first shot.
/The follow-up, on the other hand, should you miss...
Giltric
2012-01-22 11:57:40 AM
RoyBatty
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Heh, anyone else think the shells look like their penis?
Did you run into these guys at a highway rest stop?
How do you know what their penises look like for comparison?
LesserEvil
2012-01-22 12:10:21 PM
booksmart
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I would like to see what a round out of that would do to a line of watermelons.
I imagine it's quite accurate.... on that first shot.
/The follow-up, on the other hand, should you miss...
Partially, this. Most Farkers here don't seem to understand the dynamics of recoil. Those shots are going where they are aimed.
I say partially because it's not a semi-automatic weapon...you'd presumably be reset for the next shot. Recoil is more of an issue for an automatic or semi-automatic weapon, where follow up shots might walk because of the recoil.
..on the other hand, who would want to follow up with another shot? I can see inexperienced shooters getting seriously injured from the impact of the buttstock, but even an experienced shooter isn't going to want to put themselves through that again.
As for the effectiveness, @ 2400 grains, there is plenty of powder, but it's also sending a much larger projectile. Not sure how much one offsets the other. They were also pretty blunt bullets, so the shape might affect range and speed.
hoosier7400
2012-01-22 12:17:06 PM
2500fps seems like it would run out of energy pretty quick. .223/5.56 M16 bullet is about 3000fps+ or - and drops like a stone at 400 yards so probably close to that. Impact on target would be double of what a shotgun slug point blank I would imagine. Recoil over 200lbs is just silly and impractical. True definition of boomstick.
craigdamage
2012-01-22 12:41:44 PM
2500fps seems like it would run out of energy pretty quick. .223/5.56 M16 bullet is about 3000fps+ or - and drops like a stone at 400 yards
Absolutely not.
That slug weighs 2400 grains. It will maintain massive energy for great distances.
The reason a 5.56 runs out of steam so quickly is because it only weighs 55-62 grains. Light bullets are unable to maintain high velocity for great distances.
The best current long range ammo for 5.56 is 77 grain "DMR" rounds.
These are OK but pale in comparison to 7.62 175 grain "match" rounds. If both these rounds are fired from a 24" barrel you can expect 2950 fps from the 5.56 and abot 2600 fps from the 7.62. However,at 1000 meters the 5.56 will be WAY slowed down to about only 900 fps or so....the 7.62 is still going 1100 + fps.
hoosier7400
2012-01-22 12:52:26 PM
Powder charges are different as well as case volume between all these rounds. I can't imagine this 2400 grain bullet that is this short to be very accurate or effective at typical long ranges of 800+ yards. Who knows but, a .50caliber bullet it is not...
tweek46420
2012-01-22 01:02:08 PM
RoyBatty
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rev. dave: That thing should have a hydraulic recoil suppressor. Mount it on a tank and belt feed it and it might be useful.
After they described how powerful it was, I was surprised they shot it like they did and didn't have it locked down on some stand.
But again, I assume it's a worthless device, completely inaccurate and ineffective expensive piece of shiat because they never showed us the results of shooting something with it.
I suspect the bullet landed a mile away in someone's backyard missing their backstop entirely.
knows a little something about what you are speaking of
Tommyknocker2121
2012-01-22 01:21:05 PM
Since each round is centerfire and larger than .50 don't each of them have to be registered with BATF as a destructive device? That in mind...wouldn't each round cost $240 dollars due to the DD stamp tax?
Tommyknocker2121
2012-01-22 01:26:01 PM
Looked it up and apparently they have a sporting use exemption -- anyone can buy one of these rounds. For what? I don't know.
John Buck 41
2012-01-22 01:31:45 PM
tweek46420
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RoyBatty: rev. dave: That thing should have a hydraulic recoil suppressor. Mount it on a tank and belt feed it and it might be useful.
After they described how powerful it was, I was surprised they shot it like they did and didn't have it locked down on some stand.
But again, I assume it's a worthless device, completely inaccurate and ineffective expensive piece of shiat because they never showed us the results of shooting something with it.
I suspect the bullet landed a mile away in someone's backyard missing their backstop entirely.
[dsc.discovery.com image 324x205]
knows a little something about what you are speaking of
Speaking of boobs, who's the chick in the middle?
tweek46420
2012-01-22 01:35:11 PM
John Buck 41
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tweek46420: RoyBatty: rev. dave: That thing should have a hydraulic recoil suppressor. Mount it on a tank and belt feed it and it might be useful.
After they described how powerful it was, I was surprised they shot it like they did and didn't have it locked down on some stand.
But again, I assume it's a worthless device, completely inaccurate and ineffective expensive piece of shiat because they never showed us the results of shooting something with it.
I suspect the bullet landed a mile away in someone's backyard missing their backstop entirely.
[dsc.discovery.com image 324x205]
knows a little something about what you are speaking of
Speaking of boobs, who's the chick in the middle?
you've been here for almost 4 years and don't know who Kari Byron is??
John Buck 41
2012-01-22 02:47:27 PM
tweek46420
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John Buck 41: tweek46420: RoyBatty: rev. dave: That thing should have a hydraulic recoil suppressor. Mount it on a tank and belt feed it and it might be useful.
After they described how powerful it was, I was surprised they shot it like they did and didn't have it locked down on some stand.
But again, I assume it's a worthless device, completely inaccurate and ineffective expensive piece of shiat because they never showed us the results of shooting something with it.
I suspect the bullet landed a mile away in someone's backyard missing their backstop entirely.
[dsc.discovery.com image 324x205]
knows a little something about what you are speaking of
Speaking of boobs, who's the chick in the middle?
you've been here for almost 4 years and don't know who Kari Byron is??
In my defense, I've never seen the show, and for that matter, don't recall seeing a pic of her posted here. Sorry.
BTW, thanks for the name.
Lizardking
2012-01-22 03:42:19 PM
I wonder if this thing has uses as a sniper rifle? You could kill someone from miles away and a center mass hit would explodify a body it would seem
Giltric
2012-01-22 03:54:05 PM
Lizardking
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I wonder if this thing has uses as a sniper rifle? You could kill someone from miles away and a center mass hit would explodify a body it would seem
Probably useful sniping Panzer IV's and Tiger II's .
Lahtis and Solothurns were around 20mm's but the round for this rifle looks a little short for that application.
lohphat
2012-01-22 05:33:35 PM
Let's see....big cars, big guts, bad facial hair all around, southern accents.
Testosterone compensation.
Nope. No stereotypes here. No siree.
Ablejack
2012-01-22 06:22:10 PM
has actually fired a larger center fire round.
AbiNormal
2012-01-22 06:36:48 PM
From Wikipedia:
"Ballistics
The cartridge propels its 3,600 gr (230 g) bullet at approximately 2,200 ft/s (670 m/s). This yields a muzzle energy of 38,685 ft·lbf (52,450 J)[1] and a momentum of 154.1 Newton-seconds. This kinetic energy would allow the .950 JDJ to pass through several body-armored humans. It is comparable to the original tank rounds of World War I in terms of ballistic energy.
By comparison, the 5.56x45 cartridge, used in the M16 rifle, produces between 1,200-1,300 ft·lbf (1,600-1,800 J), while the .308 Winchester, a favorite for hunters and medium-range police/military sniping, produces between 2,000-3,000 ft·lbf (2,700-4,100 J) depending on the load used. The ballistics of the .950 JDJ is more similar to that of the 20mm autocannon round, which delivers approximately 39,500 ft·lbf (53,600 J).
The muzzle energy of the .950 JDJ is comparable to the kinetic energy of a 2,800 lb (1,300 kg) automobile traveling at 20 mph (32 km/h).
In a 110 lb (50 kg) rifle, this will develop well over 200 ft·lbf (270 J) of free recoil energy if an efficient muzzle brake is not used. This is far beyond the shoulder-firing capacity of nearly all humans, even without considering the difficulty of shouldering such a heavy rifle. Shooting is usually heavy "lead sled" or similar shooting rest, and the rifle is not held to the shoulder because of the severe recoil and possible injury. The rifle scope has significant eye relief to avoid injuring the ocular orbit."
Faraii
2012-01-22 09:12:27 PM
RoyBatty
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rev. dave: That thing should have a hydraulic recoil suppressor. Mount it on a tank and belt feed it and it might be useful.
After they described how powerful it was, I was surprised they shot it like they did and didn't have it locked down on some stand.
But again, I assume it's a worthless device, completely inaccurate and ineffective expensive piece of shiat because they never showed us the results of shooting something with it.
I suspect the bullet landed a mile away in someone's backyard missing their backstop entirely.
Your lack of firearms knowledge is showing.........
cenobyte40k
2012-01-22 10:12:35 PM
I think the L11A5 might be the worlds largest center fire rifle at 120mm (472.44 Caliber). I know that there where 18in (1800 caliber) Naval guns in WWII, but none of them would be considered Centerfire. There are 5in (500 caliber) center fire Naval guns in use today, however the projectile is loaded separate from the charge so I am not sure you would call it a cartridge. But the 120mm L11 is a rifled gun firing a centerfire cartridge.
hogans
2012-01-23 12:19:56 AM
Lars The Canadian Viking
2012-01-23 01:16:32 AM
Love how noone in this thread is posting pictures of their guns like they do in every other gun related thread.
Feeling.... inadequate?
It's just the cold water, right?
Whodat
2012-01-23 08:18:22 AM
Dumb design.
UNAUTHORIZED FINGER
2012-01-23 05:08:07 PM
My concern would be that the bolt would shatter, or the chamber would spall and shrapnel or entire parts could fly in any direction. I dunno about putting my face that close to an explosion that large.
ko_kyi
2012-01-23 06:32:02 PM
Lars The Canadian Viking
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Feeling.... inadequate?
It's just the cold water, right?
a weapon like that is devastating to home invaders, If you can convince them to shoot it.
Der Poopflinger
2012-01-23 07:18:50 PM
honestly, that was pretty dumb, even for rednecks
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