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(TreeHugger) Strange Swedish city allocates $4.1 million to build 20-mile-long four-lane bicycle superhighway   (treehugger.com) divider line 35
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ZAZ [TotalFark]
2012-01-21 01:15:42 PM
It's a $7.1 million highway. They want somebody else to pay the other $3 million.

That's surprisingly cheap, or they are lowballing the costs. For comparison, a single track of railroad or a lane of a controlled access highway is about as wide (counting buffer zone or shoulder) and costs about ten times as much. Obviously, they don't need a yard of pavement and gravel for bikes. (Unless Swedes are as fat as Americans.) An American "rail to trail" conversion costs about twice as much.
 
2012-01-21 01:26:11 PM
This (new window)
Is an ongoing project to convert old Union Pacific rail infrastructure into bike paths.

My house is less than a block from one of the anticipated entrance ramps..
 
ZAZ [TotalFark]
2012-01-21 01:52:02 PM
markie_farkie

That document does not say bike path. The intent appears to be a multi-purpose path. Up here that means old fashioned video game experience where you're on a bike trying to dodge random groups of baby strollers.

I'll be interested to see how this bike-only highway works, both how well it operates and how much use it gets. If I built it I'd put a sign at the entrance saying: "Warning: you have nobody to blame but yourselves."
 
2012-01-21 02:03:17 PM
markie_farkie: This (new window)
Is an ongoing project to convert old Union Pacific rail infrastructure into bike paths.

My house is less than a block from one of the anticipated entrance ramps..


In Atlanta they did that with the Silver Comet so you can bascially bike from west Atlanta all the way to Alabama and then some. From start to finish it's 66 miles and another 30 when you add in Alabama's section for a nice 100mile one-way trip. Once you pass the first 5 miles it's all bikes.

It is quite nice, lots of little towns along the way and neat things to see.

Link (new window)
 
2012-01-21 02:57:52 PM
Sounds good to me. The best way to deal with incompatible traffic is to segregate it. Bikes do need better infrastructure support.

Give bikes their own road.
 
2012-01-21 04:08:35 PM
markie_farkie: This (new window)
Is an ongoing project to convert old Union Pacific rail infrastructure into bike paths.

My house is less than a block from one of the anticipated entrance ramps..


What took you so long?

/lives a mile from the Cedar Lake Trail
//the first bike highway in the US
 
2012-01-21 04:26:15 PM
Meanwhile the mayor of my city is trying to end the "War on the car."
 
2012-01-21 04:27:59 PM
Now bikers will get to experience some idiot going slow in the left lane.
 
2012-01-21 04:57:21 PM
Absolutely "dirt cheap". Try building an automobile / truck highway of that length for that money.
 
2012-01-21 05:28:49 PM
mauricecano: In Atlanta they did that with the Silver Comet so you can bascially bike from west Atlanta all the way to Alabama and then some. From start to finish it's 66 miles and another 30 when you add in Alabama's section for a nice 100mile one-way trip. Once you pass the first 5 miles it's all bikes.

It is quite nice, lots of little towns along the way and neat things to see.

Link (new window)


WANT! So bad

I'm too chicken to play chicken with cars with my bike so I don't bike on the roads.

The best I get for a bike highway is the paved park which is about quarter of a mile, or around the sidewalk around the huge graveyard close to my home.

Everyone says drive to a bike trail at so and so, but it just seems stupid to drive 10 miles to bike a couple of miles and then drive back.
 
2012-01-21 06:02:12 PM
TFA says they intend to build this bicycle super-highway parallel to existing train tracks because of the existing right-of-way.

Unless this is a freight-only line or it's abandoned track, why not just bring the bicycle on the train with you into town?

// fully expecting the wrath of "YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND BICYCLING, DO YOU?" I know they wear colorful skin-tight clothes, shoes that clip into the pedals, travel in groups, weave all over the road and also run stop signs and red lights as if it doesn't apply to them.
 
2012-01-21 07:51:42 PM
If they have enough cyclists to justify a four lane path then that seems like very good value for money. It's a small fraction of what it would cost for a four lane highway for cars. Don't really see what's strange about it subby. Cool tag might have been a better fit.
 
2012-01-21 08:14:00 PM
Sarasota built their 12.8 mile Legacy trail for only $30. What a bargain!!
 
2012-01-21 08:14:43 PM
Uhm, I make that $30 million
 
ZAZ [TotalFark]
2012-01-21 08:39:13 PM
evildwarf

I get the impression they are building this on spec and don't know if it will be effectively used.

For car traffic, 1 lane total works for under 100 vehicles per day, 1 lane in each direction works for under 10,000 vehicles per day, and 2 lanes per direction works for under 100,000 vehicles per day. In the first two cases long single lane roads need occasional turnouts, and long two lane roads without passing opportunities run about 30% slower.
 
2012-01-21 09:17:11 PM
Here's possibly the best bike road ever. The 1897 California Cycleway between Pasadena and Los Angeles

highlandpark.files.wordpress.com

/ I think we may be entering a new Dark Ages
// Uphill would have been a hell of a climb
 
2012-01-21 11:28:32 PM
Awesome tag on vacation? Plenty of europe is like this. Look at Copenhagen in Amsterdam.
 
2012-01-21 11:29:07 PM
*or
 
2012-01-21 11:59:21 PM
America: We can't afford that. (tm)
 
2012-01-22 01:16:42 AM
if they really want to make the bikers happy, there should be lots of intersections with red lights that never turn green. then the bikers can run through them and tell themselves "it's too incovvenient for me to stop." "my feet are attached to the pedals." or however they say such shiat in swedish.
 
2012-01-22 01:32:12 AM
Will it have an HOV lane for tandems?
 
2012-01-22 01:50:46 AM
That's awesome. Bike lanes - if you build it, they will come. It's really too bad 99.995% of politicians and city engineers are too short-sighted and/or stupid to understand this.
 
2012-01-22 02:05:29 AM
LeroyB

Unless this is a freight-only line or it's abandoned track, why not just bring the bicycle on the train with you into town?


Because you don't have to buy tickets for yourself and your bicycle?
Because the train schedule sucks?
Because the train might not have enough compartments for all bicycles on a busy day?
Because the train doesn't stop at all locations that people might want to go to?
Because it might attract people to the places along the track?
Because people might want to ride for fun instead of reaching the other city?
 
2012-01-22 02:27:55 AM
I've noticed something in common among people who hate cyclists. Nearly all of them are morbidly obese, and without exception, every single one of them are horrendously ugly.
 
2012-01-22 04:56:45 AM
aearra: Absolutely "dirt cheap". Try building an automobile / truck highway of that length for that money.

I haven't found it; but I'd really like to see a breakdown of cost 'per use'.

I ride a bicycle to/from work each day, most of it is on a dedicated bicycle path. It's largely empty. I'll see 2-3 other bicyclists in the morning and maybe 4-5 in the evening. Meanwhile, the full-sized road next to them is jam packed with cars. Even with the traffic and stoplights, they move considerably faster than us on the bicycle path.

I'd be interesting to see a detailed analysis that shows how much the road/paths cost and how many people are able to commute using them each day. I have an odd feeling that it might actually be cheaper to simply build roads than roads and bicycle paths (naturally all bicycle paths would be cheapest, but that's not going to happen).
 
2012-01-22 07:22:40 AM
Hollie Maea: America: We can't afford that. (tm)

We can afford them, but they are more expensive.

Link (new window)
 
2012-01-22 12:34:02 PM
It's not that strange. Have you ever seen a swede? It's like they're fused to their bicycles.
 
2012-01-22 02:00:15 PM
Near where I live (east of the Netherlands) they are also building a bicycle freeway, 50 kilometers (31 miles) of it.

See: http://www.regiotwente.nl/images/stories/leefomgeving/mobiliteit/F35_b rochure_engels.pdf

Pretty awesome
 
2012-01-22 05:59:37 PM
Does the cost include bicycle helmets?
i.imgur.com

And riding outfits?
i.imgur.com
 
2012-01-22 07:29:20 PM
farkwell: then the bikers can run through them

Sometimes, I feel like the only cyclist that behaves like a road vehicle. Of course, drivers hate me more- because I actually ride in a traffic lane. Like I'm supposed to, by local laws. I even signal my turns, which has freaked out and perplexed many a driver.

//I also wear jeans and t-shirts when cycling, not fruity outfits, because I'm not doing this for endurance or fitness reasons- I'm doing it to cover distance faster than I can walk.
 
2012-01-22 10:12:47 PM
Atomic Spunk: I've noticed something in common among people who hate cyclists. Nearly all of them are morbidly obese, and without exception, every single one of them are horrendously ugly.

Nah...just be a runner who has to share park paths with cyclists. I nearly got run over by a cyclist last week when some multi-colored, two-wheeled blur comes at me as I'm hugging the right side of the path on a quiet morning. Or better yet, my friend gets a kick in the butt from a passing cyclist as we're running inside the "runners' lane" of the shared park path.
 
2012-01-22 11:35:31 PM
Can we please get commuter trains? In the South? It would be so nice having a train at major hubs and a bus to more rural areas.

The bike paths are cool and all, but terribly inefficient for my area.
 
2012-01-23 12:12:36 AM
Sarah Palin's Conscience: Can we please get commuter trains? In the South? It would be so nice having a train at major hubs and a bus to more rural areas.

The bike paths are cool and all, but terribly inefficient for my area.


Same here. We can't even get a bus from Omaha to Lincoln to Grand Island to connect the tree major cities in Nebraska without it costing a billion dollars for a Greyhound ticket.

Misses Golden Gate Transit.
 
2012-01-23 02:37:02 AM
Joshudan: Atomic Spunk: I've noticed something in common among people who hate cyclists. Nearly all of them are morbidly obese, and without exception, every single one of them are horrendously ugly.

Nah...just be a runner who has to share park paths with cyclists. I nearly got run over by a cyclist last week when some multi-colored, two-wheeled blur comes at me as I'm hugging the right side of the path on a quiet morning. Or better yet, my friend gets a kick in the butt from a passing cyclist as we're running inside the "runners' lane" of the shared park path.


Heh, I'm a cyclist and I understand. Unfortunately, there are more than a few asshole cyclists who give the rest of us a bad name.
 
2012-01-23 10:17:13 AM
FTA: In Lund, 60% of the populace bikes or takes public transport to go about their daily tasks.

A four lane bike road, costing $7.1 million (USD), and 20 miles in length seems like a great idea if that many people ride. It's far less costly to build, less work/money to maintain, has a higher capacity, requires less parking space, and takes less land than even a residential street for cars of the same length.

Meanwhile in America, bikes is teh sochulizm. The teabagger at work was pissed about wasted tax dollars when he learned the major bike paths in Madison are plowed. Why was he mad? Nobody uses them in the winter, that's why. How'd he find out the paths are plowed? He had asked one of several people that bike to work everyday how they manage to ride during the winter. They had told him the path is plowed which makes it usable all winter. Facepalm.
 
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