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(The New York Times) Spiffy Two years in, America is on track to meet Obama's goal of doubling exports in five years   (nytimes.com) divider line 145
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2012-01-21 11:00:05 AM
Wait a second here. You mean there are benefits to a falling dollar? Get the hell out of town. Well, it also makes oil and thus gas more expensive so it kinda cancels out a lot of the positives. But, hey, at least those firms are shipping out products.
 
2012-01-21 11:24:30 AM
Exporting American values on a slow boat to socialism.
 
2012-01-21 12:20:12 PM
I'm sure Fox News will tell us how this is somehow bad for America.
 
2012-01-21 12:20:12 PM
This proves how anti-business he is.
 
2012-01-21 12:22:32 PM
Giving Obama credit for this is equally as moranic as giving him credit for the SEAL team taking out Bin Laden, or the revolution in Libya which he also totally had nothing to do with.
 
2012-01-21 12:22:58 PM
But socialism?
 
2012-01-21 12:25:26 PM
NewportBarGuy: Wait a second here. You mean there are benefits to a falling dollar? Get the hell out of town. Well, it also makes oil and thus gas more expensive so it kinda cancels out a lot of the positives. But, hey, at least those firms are shipping out products.

Question, whats better?

More manufacturing jobs and thus a bigger middle class with money to spend and slightly higher gas prices/product prices?

Or

Cheap gas and energy, but no local manufacturing jobs?

Also, the higher the energy prices, the more "Buy local" makes sense. Shipping 1/2 around the world needs cheap energy,
 
2012-01-21 12:26:16 PM
Wyalt Derp: Giving Obama credit for this is equally as moranic as giving him credit for the SEAL team taking out Bin Laden

Why is that moronic?
 
2012-01-21 12:29:04 PM
HotWingConspiracy: Wyalt Derp: Giving Obama credit for this is equally as moranic as giving him credit for the SEAL team taking out Bin Laden

Why is that moronic?


Because Obama's a Democrat so it doesn't count libtard. :P
 
2012-01-21 12:29:26 PM
HotWingConspiracy: Wyalt Derp: Giving Obama credit for this is equally as moranic as giving him credit for the SEAL team taking out Bin Laden

Why is that moronic?


Because it might make him look good.
 
2012-01-21 12:30:12 PM
5 year plan? I knew he was a commie!
 
2012-01-21 12:30:36 PM
history's greatest monster.
 
2012-01-21 12:31:44 PM
F*cking 0bama, keeping his campaign promises, lowering unemployment, and improving our economy just so he can get reelected. What a selfish asshole.
 
2012-01-21 12:36:05 PM
Wyalt Derp: Giving Obama credit for this is equally as moranic as giving him credit for the SEAL team taking out Bin Laden, or the revolution in Libya which he also totally had nothing to do with.

I hope everyone who reads Wyalt's comment remembers it. Burn it in to your mind.

And 10 or 20 years from now when it's not classified anymore, look back on the "Obama didnt do anything, deserves no credit" meme and remember the sheer magnitude of the butthurt of the right wing.

Because you KNOW they're going to lie about that, too.

Remember.
 
2012-01-21 12:38:36 PM
So he's snatching American Made (tm) products out of the hands of Real Americans (tm) and sending them to a bunch of Furrners (tm)?

thanks a lot, Fartbama!

/hope I'm just hyperbolizing
//don't hope much tho
 
2012-01-21 12:41:37 PM
TyrantII: Question, whats better?

I stated it at the end. We're shipping more products and that keeps people employed. So, I'm totally for the low dollar right now. Long-term, it's not great, but right now I'm just glad to see our products moving and creating work.
 
2012-01-21 12:41:38 PM
DeltaPunch: F*cking 0bama, keeping his campaign promises, lowering unemployment, and improving our economy just so he can get reelected. What a selfish asshole.

Congress hasn't functioned well while Obama has been president because the conservatives obstructed even vital actions (downgrade) in order to make Obama look bad.

Meanwhile, Obama gets things done - like a Boss.

I don't think the right wing thought it's cunning plan all the way through.
 
2012-01-21 12:42:49 PM
DeltaPunch: F*cking 0bama, keeping his campaign promises, lowering unemployment, and improving our economy just so he can get reelected. What a selfish asshole.

Easy to lower unemployment when people drop off the employment numbers. Look at the drop in number of Americans in the workforce.
 
2012-01-21 12:45:36 PM
Kumana Wanalaia: Wyalt Derp: Giving Obama credit for this is equally as moranic as giving him credit for the SEAL team taking out Bin Laden, or the revolution in Libya which he also totally had nothing to do with.

I hope everyone who reads Wyalt's comment remembers it. Burn it in to your mind.

And 10 or 20 years from now when it's not classified anymore, look back on the "Obama didnt do anything, deserves no credit" meme and remember the sheer magnitude of the butthurt of the right wing.

Because you KNOW they're going to lie about that, too.

Remember.
That is true, but I do believe you are responding to a troll. If the post doesn't give it away, maybe his handle might help.
 
2012-01-21 12:46:20 PM
Wyalt Derp: Giving Obama credit for this is equally as moranic as giving him credit for the SEAL team taking out Bin Laden, or the revolution in Libya which he also totally had nothing to do with.

The mean the SEAL team that would not have been there without him giving the order?
 
2012-01-21 12:48:18 PM
MyRandomName: DeltaPunch: F*cking 0bama, keeping his campaign promises, lowering unemployment, and improving our economy just so he can get reelected. What a selfish asshole.

Easy to lower unemployment when people drop off the employment numbers. Look at the drop in number of Americans in the workforce.


Remember kids, rising unemployment under a Republican President and falling unemployment under a Democratic President aren't true indicators of anything because they make the Republicans look bad and the Democrats look good.
 
2012-01-21 12:49:08 PM
Don't Troll Me Bro!: Wyalt Derp: Giving Obama credit for this is equally as moranic as giving him credit for the SEAL team taking out Bin Laden, or the revolution in Libya which he also totally had nothing to do with.

The mean the SEAL team that would not have been there without him giving the order?


I think he was poking fun at the Right Wing mentality when it comes to Obama. At lest I hope he was.
 
2012-01-21 12:49:26 PM
MyRandomName: DeltaPunch: F*cking 0bama, keeping his campaign promises, lowering unemployment, and improving our economy just so he can get reelected. What a selfish asshole.

Easy to lower unemployment when people drop off the employment numbers. Look at the drop in number of Americans in the workforce.


Your claim doesn't hold water. The U6 rate has fallen by almost a full percentage point in the last four months.
 
2012-01-21 12:52:02 PM
Damn he was trollin yo.
 
2012-01-21 12:52:10 PM
MyRandomName: DeltaPunch: F*cking 0bama, keeping his campaign promises, lowering unemployment, and improving our economy just so he can get reelected. What a selfish asshole.

Easy to lower unemployment when people drop off the employment numbers. Look at the drop in number of Americans in the workforce.


Obama stopped the crash, stabilized the crisis, and added over 2 million jobs.

And when obstructionist, contrarian, party-before-country crybabies (read: tea-tards) get replaced with less extreme or even moderate representatives, we'll get some real traction.

The whole world is reeling right now and the economies that prosper a little bit more right now rather than a little bit less right now will have a greater lead when the storm has passed.

Kick Out the Dead-End Hard Line Cons

Do It for America
 
2012-01-21 12:55:52 PM
Wyalt Derp: Giving Obama credit for this is equally as moranic as giving him credit for the SEAL team taking out Bin Laden, or the revolution in Libya which he also totally had nothing to do with.

9/10. Thats' the greatest number of hooks I've seen in a long time.
 
2012-01-21 12:58:07 PM
MyRandomName: DeltaPunch: F*cking 0bama, keeping his campaign promises, lowering unemployment, and improving our economy just so he can get reelected. What a selfish asshole.

Easy to lower unemployment when people drop off the employment numbers. Look at the drop in number of Americans in the workforce.


Also, here's two charts: one is the number of non-farm employed persons under Bush, and one is the number of non-farm employed persons under Obama. Note that the shaded bars are recessions.

dailydish.typepad.com

dailydish.typepad.com
 
2012-01-21 01:00:03 PM
Doesn't make any difference.

If you look at the economic trend that has emerged in the last 10 years you see that the benefits of most supposedly good economic news end up going to the upper-class parasites.
 
2012-01-21 01:00:36 PM
Some of you need to take up the habit of reading the handle to which you are responding.
 
2012-01-21 01:01:06 PM
BUT FARTBONGO SOSHULIZZIM NAZI FEMA CAMPS SPENDING KEYSTONE PIPELINE ABORTIONS MUSLIN!
 
2012-01-21 01:01:40 PM
Serious Black: Your claim doesn't hold water. The U6 rate has fallen by almost a full percentage point in the last four months.

The wingnuts know that, of course - they just lie out of habit at this point.
 
2012-01-21 01:04:46 PM
Serious Black: Your claim doesn't hold water. The U6 rate has fallen by almost a full percentage point in the last four months.

Yep.

Obama has made virtually no difference in the unemployment rate.
 
2012-01-21 01:08:45 PM
Republican voters are not going to be happy about this.
 
2012-01-21 01:08:47 PM
HotWingConspiracy: Why is that moronic?

Well it's just down to luck, isn't it? The SEALs were bound to get him sooner or later, and Obama's just fortunate that it happened while he was Commander-in-Chief. Like Bush was unlucky that the tragedy of 9/11 took place while he happened to be in charge, and that the economy happened to tank after several years of his Presidency. And that we didn't find the Weapons of Mass Destruction in Iraq and the war lasted much longer than the six weeks/months that was predicted - while Obama lucked out when the Libyan government was overthrown before he could even get round to deciding to send in any ground troops!

Luckiest. President. Ever.
 
2012-01-21 01:11:04 PM
I also considered mentioning that we only got Bin Laden because of the intel that W got from waterboarding Saddam Hussein.
 
2012-01-21 01:13:30 PM
Wyalt Derp: Giving Obama credit for this is equally as moranic as giving him credit for the SEAL team taking out Bin Laden, or the revolution in Libya which he also totally had nothing to do with.

But I guess he deserves 100% of the blame for the country's failures, right?
 
2012-01-21 01:13:58 PM
Wyalt Derp: Luckiest. President. Ever.

Good argument for four more years.
 
2012-01-21 01:16:08 PM
MyRandomName: DeltaPunch: F*cking 0bama, keeping his campaign promises, lowering unemployment, and improving our economy just so he can get reelected. What a selfish asshole.

Easy to lower unemployment when people drop off the employment numbers. Look at the drop in number of Americans in the workforce.


Easy to spin a successful job report into a failure, amirite? Why don't we just put all the facts on the table: (new window)

About 2.5 million persons were marginally attached to the labor force in
December, little different from a year earlier. (The data are not seasonally
adjusted.) These individuals were not in the labor force, wanted and were
available for work, and had looked for a job sometime in the prior 12 months.
They were not counted as unemployed because they had not searched for work in the 4 weeks preceding the survey.

Among the marginally attached, there were 945,000 discouraged workers in
December, a decrease of 373,000 from a year earlier. (The data are not seasonally adjusted.) Discouraged workers are persons not currently looking for work because they believe no jobs are available for them. The remaining 1.6 million persons marginally attached to the labor force in December had not searched for work in the 4 weeks preceding the survey for reasons such as school attendance or family responsibilities.


So you're actually wrong about discouraged workers that drop off the unemployment numbers... yes, they exist, but there are LESS this month than one year ago. Now let's look at all those jobs that didn't actually get created because you know the numbers all wrong because of discouraged workers:

Total nonfarm payroll employment increased by 200,000 in December. Over the past 12 months, nonfarm payroll employment has risen by 1.6 million. Employment in the private sector rose by 212,000 in December and by 1.9 million over the year. Government employment changed little over the month but fell by 280,000 over the year.

Employment in transportation and warehousing rose sharply in December (+50,000). Almost all of the gain occurred in the couriers and messengers industry (+42,000); seasonal hiring was particularly strong in December.

Retail trade continued to add jobs in December, with a gain of 28,000. Employment in the industry has increased by 240,000 over the past 12 months. Over the month, job gains continued in general merchandise stores (+13,000) and in clothing and clothing accessories stores (+11,000). Employment in sporting goods, hobby, book,
and music stores fell by 10,000.

In December, manufacturing employment expanded by 23,000, following 4 months of little change. Employment increased in December in transportation equipment (+9,000), fabricated metals (+6,000), and machinery (+5,000).

In December, manufacturing employment expanded by 23,000, following 4 months of
little change. Employment increased in December in transportation equipment
(+9,000), fabricated metals (+6,000), and machinery (+5,000).

Mining employment rose by 7,000 over the month. Over the year, mining added
89,000 jobs.

Health care continued to add jobs in December (+23,000); employment in hospitals increased by 10,000. Over the year, health care employment has risen by 315,000.

Within leisure and hospitality, employment in food services and drinking places
continued to trend up in December (+24,000). Over the year, food services and drinking places has added 230,000 jobs.

 
2012-01-21 01:20:11 PM
MisterLoki: Some of you need to take up the habit of reading the handle to which you are responding.
 
2012-01-21 01:23:09 PM
Wyalt Derp: HotWingConspiracy: Why is that moronic?

Well it's just down to luck, isn't it? The SEALs were bound to get him sooner or later, and Obama's just fortunate that it happened while he was Commander-in-Chief. Like Bush was unlucky that the tragedy of 9/11 took place while he happened to be in charge, and that the economy happened to tank after several years of his Presidency. And that we didn't find the Weapons of Mass Destruction in Iraq and the war lasted much longer than the six weeks/months that was predicted - while Obama lucked out when the Libyan government was overthrown before he could even get round to deciding to send in any ground troops!

Luckiest. President. Ever.


Not to intrude on your art via analysis, but your use of "moranic" in the lady bags should have been sufficient to see your intent.
 
2012-01-21 01:24:16 PM
Two years in, America is on track to meet Obama's goal of doubling exports the national debt in five years

Fixed.
 
2012-01-21 01:27:40 PM
Daraymann: Two years in, America is on track to meet Obama's goal of doubling exports the national debt in five years

Fixed.


Thanks Dubya for keeping all that expensive shiat off the budget.
 
2012-01-21 01:29:55 PM
How farking stupid do you have to be to read a login like wyalt derp and respond to it?
 
2012-01-21 01:32:13 PM
Obama is sending our goods and services overseas, they should stay in the US where they belong. I, for one, do not look forward to the day when everyone in the world has a xbox except Americans.
 
2012-01-21 01:33:40 PM
MyRandomName: DeltaPunch: F*cking 0bama, keeping his campaign promises, lowering unemployment, and improving our economy just so he can get reelected. What a selfish asshole.

Easy to lower unemployment when people drop off the employment numbers. Look at the drop in number of Americans in the workforce.


but those noble workers were probably lazy and shiftless
 
2012-01-21 01:35:00 PM
Sabyen91: Daraymann: Two years in, America is on track to meet Obama's goal of doubling exports the national debt in five years

Fixed.

Thanks Dubya for keeping all that expensive shiat off the budget.


Three years later and still blaming someone else.

Typical.
 
2012-01-21 01:37:13 PM
Daraymann: Sabyen91: Daraymann: Two years in, America is on track to meet Obama's goal of doubling exports the national debt in five years

Fixed.

Thanks Dubya for keeping all that expensive shiat off the budget.

Three years later and still blaming someone else.

Typical.


You aren't very bright, are you? Much of the spending you are talking about occurred suddenly when Obama put the wars and Medicare D on-budget. He didn't suddenly spend a bunch of money, he was recording the debt Bush had already accrued.
 
2012-01-21 01:38:03 PM
Wyalt Derp: I also considered mentioning that we only got Bin Laden because of the intel that W got from waterboarding Saddam Hussein.

Nah, they used Doritos in Camp Cropper. Much more effective.
 
2012-01-21 01:40:10 PM
Daraymann: Two years in, America is on track to meet Obama's goal of doubling the national debt in five years

Fixed.



November 2009 that of the $9 trillion in deficits forecast for the 2010-2019 period, $5 trillion are due to programs from the prior administration, including tax cuts from 2001 and 2003 and the unfunded Medicare Part D. Another $3.5 trillion are due to the financial crisis, including reductions in future tax revenues and additional spending for the social safety net such as unemployment benefits. The remainder are stimulus and bailout programs related to the crisis.
 
2012-01-21 01:40:49 PM
What are they exporting, jobs?

(DNRTFA - am I doing it right?)
 
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