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2012-01-21 09:17:32 AM
I wonder if the Obama campaign will use Romney's own quotes in their ads.

Imagine lots of well-lit shots of a multiracial cast of Americans doing American things: riding bikes, having picnics, walking near an American flag.

Narrator: Americans have always helped each other through tough times. Thanks to President Obama, the economy is recovering and the country has gone back to work. Optimism is growing and factories are humming.

We see footage of Romney:

Romney: "Well, of course it's getting better. "The economy always gets better after a recession."

Next, footage of President Obama sitting in the Oval Office.

Obama: "I'm President Barack Hussein Obama and I approve this message."
 
2012-01-21 09:50:05 AM
gimmegimme: I wonder if the Obama campaign will use Romney's own quotes in their ads.

Imagine lots of well-lit shots of a multiracial cast of Americans doing American things: riding bikes, having picnics, walking near an American flag.

Narrator: Americans have always helped each other through tough times. Thanks to President Obama, the economy is recovering and the country has gone back to work. Optimism is growing and factories are humming.

We see footage of Romney:

Romney: "Well, of course it's getting better. "The economy always gets better after a recession."

Next, footage of President Obama sitting in the Oval Office.

Obama: "I'm President Barack Hussein Obama and I approve this message Leader of the Free World."


*holds out arm, drops mic*
 
2012-01-21 10:48:31 AM
gimmegimme: I wonder if the Obama campaign will use Romney's own quotes in their ads.

If they don't I'm sure a super PAC will.
 
2012-01-21 10:50:11 AM
That's hilarious.

Laura: "Isn't that a hard argument to make?"

Mitt; "Do you have a better one?"

He's got nothing.
 
2012-01-21 10:51:24 AM
Well sure. But it's because of the Republican Congress. Just like when Clinton balanced the budget, it was because of the Republican Congress.

Duh.
 
2012-01-21 10:51:58 AM
cameroncrazy1984: That's hilarious.

Laura: "Isn't that a hard argument to make?"

Mitt; "Do you have a better one?"

He's got nothing.


It's almost as if Laura Ingraham and Mitt Romney are determined not to give Obama credit for anything he's done, even if their denial stretches the bounds of truth.
 
2012-01-21 10:54:41 AM
"...and it's because Republicans took a principled stand in Congress against the Obama agenda."

There, fixed the talking point for him.
 
2012-01-21 10:55:07 AM
If something bad happens while a Democrat is in office, he is directly responsible for the cause and for the consequences. If something good happens while a Democrat is in office, he is directly responsible for repressing an even greater good from emerging. Got it.
 
2012-01-21 10:56:16 AM
gimmegimme: cameroncrazy1984: That's hilarious.

Laura: "Isn't that a hard argument to make?"

Mitt; "Do you have a better one?"

He's got nothing.

It's almost as if Laura Ingraham and Mitt Romney are determined not to give Obama credit for anything he's done, even if their denial stretches the bounds of truth.


Stretches?
ecx.images-amazon.com
 
2012-01-21 10:59:16 AM
I'm starting to feel like every time Mittens opens his mouth, Gingrich gets one step closer to the nomination. That makes me very, very nervous.
 
2012-01-21 10:59:35 AM
casual disregard: If something bad happens while a Democrat is in office, he is directly responsible for the cause and for the consequences. If something good happens while a Democrat is in office, he is directly responsible for repressing an even greater good from emerging. Got it.

Unless one/both houses of Congress are controlled by Republicans, in which case, no matter what they did/did not do, THEY'RE responsible for anything positive.
 
2012-01-21 11:14:40 AM
apoptotic: I'm starting to feel like every time Mittens opens his mouth, Gingrich gets one step closer to the nomination. That makes me very, very nervous.

There are 50 states in this country. Gingrich's Tea Party base is mostly comprised of angry Southerners. He might sweep the Confederacy, but do you think Newt will take the West? The Midwest? The Northeast? In the primary or the general?

We're talking about a political entity which would still vote for Palin if she ran. Does that sound like a party based in reality to you?

That's why I'm not all that concerned about his chances - angry factions tend to overstate their size and influence. This is especially true of the GOP which still thinks a pseudoReaganite would win in 2012 the same way Reagan did in 1980.
 
2012-01-21 11:17:00 AM
Um, Mitt may actually be imploding here.

More and more every day he seems to be heading for a Category 5 Bullworth.

My god, we could be looking at candidate Gingrich.
 
2012-01-21 11:17:44 AM
the fact that obama is almost certain to beat romney is only a secret to die-hard GOP cheerleaders at this point
 
2012-01-21 11:19:03 AM
Yeah that economy is really doing great now.

One might even say we're in the Goldilocks economy.
 
2012-01-21 11:20:37 AM
apoptotic: I'm starting to feel like every time Mittens opens his mouth, Gingrich gets one step closer to the nomination. That makes me very, very nervous.

Why, he isn't going to be president. Even if was going against someone other than Obama and people in general actually liked Gingrich, the man can't keep his mouth shut and his campaign would eventually collapse under its own blunders.
 
2012-01-21 11:21:37 AM
Your blog sucks. If you find a story that seems interesting, just link directly to it. If you're going to link us to a blog, the post in question had better have some sort of analysis, added context, or, well, something beyond. "Here is this thing: [someone else's content]".

I know that Kos sometimes has blogs that constitute actual analysis or op-ed pieces, go find one of those instead of this Ebaum's World shiat.
 
2012-01-21 11:24:56 AM
I'd like to imagine every day Romney wakes up, smiles, walks to the sink, brushes his teeth, smiles in the mirror.....then screams at the top of his lungs 'WHY DON'T THEY FARKING LIKE ME!!!!'
 
2012-01-21 11:25:03 AM
Bob16: Yeah that economy is really doing great now.

One might even say we're in the Goldilocks economy.


I wouldn't go that far. The economy is definitely better than it was when Obama came to office.
 
2012-01-21 11:29:06 AM
Nobody wants Romney. Not even the Republicans like Romney. He has no actual positions, he just says stuff.

His plan has been to pay lots of other people to say stuff too. Like he was the guy who could beat that secret muslim terrorist holed up in the White House who keeps raising taxes and destroying our economy. If Romney keeps campaigning like this he won't get the GOP nomination. It will go to someone everyone knows could beat Obama, Newt Gingrich.
 
2012-01-21 11:29:34 AM
Gwyrddu: apoptotic: I'm starting to feel like every time Mittens opens his mouth, Gingrich gets one step closer to the nomination. That makes me very, very nervous.

Why, he isn't going to be president. Even if was going against someone other than Obama and people in general actually liked Gingrich, the man can't keep his mouth shut and his campaign would eventually collapse under its own blunders.


That's what I thought about Bush in 2004.
 
2012-01-21 11:34:45 AM
TheOther: gimmegimme: I wonder if the Obama campaign will use Romney's own quotes in their ads.

Imagine lots of well-lit shots of a multiracial cast of Americans doing American things: riding bikes, having picnics, walking near an American flag.

Narrator: Americans have always helped each other through tough times. Thanks to President Obama, the economy is recovering and the country has gone back to work. Optimism is growing and factories are humming.

We see footage of Romney:

Romney: "Well, of course it's getting better. "The economy always gets better after a recession."

Next, footage of President Obama sitting in the Oval Office.

Obama: "I'm President Barack Hussein Obama and I approve this message Leader of the Free World. I took out Osma Bin Laden."

*holds out arm, drops mic*
 
2012-01-21 11:37:47 AM
Remember how Bush won re-election on only "There has not been another major terrorist attack on US soil since 9/11". That was his bar to get re-elected.

Well Obama has done that, took out OBL,overthrew Qaddafi without much cost, ended the war in Iraq, winding down the Afghan war, kept us out of what even Republicans said might be another great depression.

I mean WTF?!?!
 
2012-01-21 11:43:25 AM
This is exactly why Romney can not be the Republican nominee.
 
2012-01-21 11:44:23 AM
Corvus: Remember how Bush won re-election on only "There has not been another major terrorist attack on US soil since 9/11". That was his bar to get re-elected.

Well Obama has done that, took out OBL,overthrew Qaddafi without much cost, ended the war in Iraq, winding down the Afghan war, kept us out of what even Republicans said might be another great depression.

I mean WTF?!?!


A lot of independent voters care about image not facts. National poll: Gingrich 45% Obama 43% Link (new window)
 
2012-01-21 11:48:56 AM
Free_Chilly_Willy: This is exactly why Romney can not be the Republican nominee.

Telling the truth on rare occasions will be bad for his platform?
 
2012-01-21 11:48:57 AM
Corvus: Remember how Bush won re-election on only "There has not been another major terrorist attack on US soil since 9/11". That was his bar to get re-elected.

Well Obama has done that, took out OBL,overthrew Qaddafi without much cost, ended the war in Iraq, winding down the Afghan war, kept us out of what even Republicans said might be another great depression.

I mean WTF?!?!


It's generally a rule that we, as a nation, don't like to vote against an incumbent President that hasn't been embroiled in scandals. It goes against our instincts to get rid of a guy who's got the experience already for a new guy who's going to need to go through some training for the job.

GHWB was an exception based on just how 'bad' of a campaign he ran, a tanking economy and a very very very charismatic Democratic challenger(Clinton).

Not one of these factors are a concern in this election. Obama is known for running excellent campaigns, the economy is steadily improving and the GOP candidates can't even spell 'charismatic'.
 
2012-01-21 11:52:15 AM
Fart_Machine: Free_Chilly_Willy: This is exactly why Romney can not be the Republican nominee.

Telling the truth on rare occasions will be bad for his platform?


Because lying and saying that the economy sucks just looks better, I guess?

Here's a few facts from my end of things: My job, which I've had for nearly two years, is finally offering me full time hours and a small raise. Due to some change in the rules regarding federal aid for college, I'm now eligible for further training and I'm looking at going back to school. Things are getting 'better' for me. I don't know about anyone else, though.
 
2012-01-21 11:53:19 AM
Poor Mittens has had a bad farking week.

/And how.
 
2012-01-21 11:53:47 AM
A debate between Romney and Obama would be legendary. I would pay money to watch that.
 
2012-01-21 11:54:26 AM
"What magazines or newspapers do you read?"
"Oh, all of them."
"All them? Isn't that a strange answer?"
"Do you have a better one?"

"Why did you cheat on your wives?"
"Because the stress cause by my patriotic duty to work."
"Isn't that an unbelievably retarded anwer?"
"Do you have a better one?"
 
2012-01-21 11:55:59 AM
Why is this a big deal? He'll just come down on the other side of the issue by Monday.

Political windsocks are people, my friend.
 
2012-01-21 11:58:06 AM
CravenMorehead: A debate between Romney and Obama would be legendary. I would pay money to watch that.

You're probably gonna get three for free. If not, you'll get three with Newt, which will be even more insane.
 
2012-01-21 12:00:22 PM
Don't Troll Me Bro!: CravenMorehead: A debate between Romney and Obama would be legendary. I would pay money to watch that.

You're probably gonna get three for free. If not, you'll get three with Newt, which will be even more insane.


Whoever gets the GOP nod is going to do his level best to keep those debates from happening. No good will come to the GOP from getting on a debate stage with the President. They'll be destroyed and they know it.
 
2012-01-21 12:02:36 PM
Infernalist: GHWB was an exception based on just how 'bad' of a campaign he ran, a tanking economy and a very very very charismatic Democratic challenger(Clinton).

And a little feller from Texas getting 19% of the vote in the end, and actually leading at one point. Exit polling suggests he didn't make a difference in the immediate final outcome, but the race as a whole would have been very different without him.
 
2012-01-21 12:05:06 PM
CravenMorehead: A debate between Romney and Obama would be legendary. I would pay money to watch that.

Actually Romney is good at just saying things that mean nothing. I think he might do well.


He's a farking used car salesman, he only looks like an idiot when you ask him something he hasn't practiced.
 
2012-01-21 12:13:06 PM
noneyourbase: There are 50 states in this country. Gingrich's Tea Party base is mostly comprised of angry Southerners. He might sweep the Confederacy, but do you think Newt will take the West? The Midwest? The Northeast?

The GOP took away the good old winner take all system, because they were "inspired" by how Obama got better from having a tough go against Clinton. So Romney can't just win by sweeping all of the moderate states this time. If Gingrich wins big in the south, and isn't too far behind in other places (Even California has plenty of rednecks), then it could be a big problem for Romney. Especially if Ron Paul is siphoning off a bunch of the independents in the moderate states.
 
2012-01-21 12:15:37 PM
The economy is getting better because the country is looking at the incredibly talented candidates lining up to become the Republican nominee and the country knows the winner will lower my taxes and keep the government out of my life. And no, I don't have to prove that. Shut up, libs. Shut up.
 
2012-01-21 12:16:16 PM
DeltaPunch: "What magazines or newspapers do you read?"
"Oh, all of them."
"All them? Isn't that a strange answer?"
"Do you have a better one?"

"Why did you cheat on your wives?"
"Because the stress cause by my patriotic duty to work."
"Isn't that an unbelievably retarded anwer?"
"Do you have a better one?"


I want to make an ad that simply shows pictures of Bachmann, Perry, Cain, Gingrich and Santorum in turn. Then at the end it says "Mitt Romney for President. Do you have a better one?"
 
2012-01-21 12:17:13 PM
Lawnchair: Infernalist: GHWB was an exception based on just how 'bad' of a campaign he ran, a tanking economy and a very very very charismatic Democratic challenger(Clinton).

And a little feller from Texas getting 19% of the vote in the end, and actually leading at one point. Exit polling suggests he didn't make a difference in the immediate final outcome, but the race as a whole would have been very different without him.


And those polls also show that Perot pulled most of his support from Clinton's base, not the Republicans.
 
2012-01-21 12:20:36 PM
Infernalist: Don't Troll Me Bro!: CravenMorehead: A debate between Romney and Obama would be legendary. I would pay money to watch that.

You're probably gonna get three for free. If not, you'll get three with Newt, which will be even more insane.

Whoever gets the GOP nod is going to do his level best to keep those debates from happening. No good will come to the GOP from getting on a debate stage with the President. They'll be destroyed and they know it.


I think both Newt and Mitt truly believe that they can out-debate the president. Which makes it even funnier.
 
2012-01-21 12:22:30 PM
GoldSpider: "...and it's because Republicans took a principled stand in Congress against the Obama agenda."

There, fixed the talking point for him.


Yep, because stuff like trying to cut funding to NPR and PP and almost leading the nation into default is always good for the economy.

thatschurch.com
 
2012-01-21 12:23:53 PM
Karac: gimmegimme: cameroncrazy1984: That's hilarious.

Laura: "Isn't that a hard argument to make?"

Mitt; "Do you have a better one?"

He's got nothing.

It's almost as if Laura Ingraham and Mitt Romney are determined not to give Obama credit for anything he's done, even if their denial stretches the bounds of truth.

Stretches?
[ecx.images-amazon.com image 500x500]


I still remember the time when she was interviewed by Colbert and Colbert basically told her that her book was crap right to her face.

That was epic.
 
2012-01-21 12:30:29 PM
Infernalist: Don't Troll Me Bro!: CravenMorehead: A debate between Romney and Obama would be legendary. I would pay money to watch that.

You're probably gonna get three for free. If not, you'll get three with Newt, which will be even more insane.

Whoever gets the GOP nod is going to do his level best to keep those debates from happening. No good will come to the GOP from getting on a debate stage with the President. They'll be destroyed and they know it.


I don't think Newt realizes it. I think he's so full of himself, so disconnected from reality, that he thinks he'd make Obama look like a fool in a head to head debate. I think he'd act like a belligerent jackass towards the moderators and the President, get a loud roar from the guys in the audience wearing tri-corner hats with dangling teabags, and think to himself that he's the greatest debater of all time.
 
2012-01-21 12:35:00 PM
apoptotic: That's what I thought about Bush in 2004.

Bush was an incumbent president riding the effect of being a "war president" before enough people starting questioning why were really at war in the first place. Had the election happened six months later Bush would have lost despite the crappy campaign by John Kerry. Bush went from the one of the most popular presidents after (and because of) 9/11 to the least popular by the end of his second terms, which is why Democrats were able to take back congress in 2006 and 2008.

Compare that to Gingrich who was so unpopular as speaker when he was in congress that Democrats in congress ran successful campaigns by connecting their opponents to Gingrich. The country certainly isn't going to vote for that egomaniac tub of lard against even a half decent Democratic candidate, much less Obama who has run one of the best campaigns I've ever seen.
 
2012-01-21 12:35:13 PM
Don't Troll Me Bro!: Infernalist: Don't Troll Me Bro!: CravenMorehead: A debate between Romney and Obama would be legendary. I would pay money to watch that.

You're probably gonna get three for free. If not, you'll get three with Newt, which will be even more insane.

Whoever gets the GOP nod is going to do his level best to keep those debates from happening. No good will come to the GOP from getting on a debate stage with the President. They'll be destroyed and they know it.

I don't think Newt realizes it. I think he's so full of himself, so disconnected from reality, that he thinks he'd make Obama look like a fool in a head to head debate. I think he'd act like a belligerent jackass towards the moderators and the President, get a loud roar from the guys in the audience wearing tri-corner hats with dangling teabags, and think to himself that he's the greatest debater of all time.


Oh yeah, the guy is completely delusional just read this:

According to notes written by Gingrich in 1993, which were included in the House report in 1997 and published by Slate in 2011, Gingrich had a 25-year plan.[70] As Gingrich's "primary mission", the notes list, "advocate of civilization", "definer of civilization", "teacher of the rules of civilization", "arouser of those who form civilization", "organizer of the pro-civilization activists", and "leader (possibly) of the civilizing forces".[70] According to the plan, Gingrich would write a series of books and make public appearances to present "Gingrich the historian applying the lessons of history to public life".[70]

He's basically the closest thing we have to Kim Jong Il.

Link
 
2012-01-21 12:41:17 PM
GOP '12: Because Obama had nothing to do with all of the great things that happened during his presidency.
 
2012-01-21 12:44:23 PM
Don't Troll Me Bro!: I don't think Newt realizes it. I think he's so full of himself, so disconnected from reality, that he thinks he'd make Obama look like a fool in a head to head debate. I think he'd act like a belligerent jackass towards the moderators and the President, get a loud roar from the guys in the audience wearing tri-corner hats with dangling teabags, and think to himself that he's the greatest debater of all time.

Yup. Gingrich is so full of anger and thinks he is so much smarter than anyone else. I'm not sure if Obama has the balls to crush him in a debate. He has the wits, I'm just not sure about the balls.
 
2012-01-21 12:50:32 PM
Muta: Bob16: Yeah that economy is really doing great now.

One might even say we're in the Goldilocks economy.

I wouldn't go that far. The economy is definitely better than it was when Obama came to office.


I thought the word "Goldilocks" would have been enough of a hint.

Get real. The economy is still a disaster.
 
2012-01-21 12:52:41 PM
udhq: GOP '12: Because Obama had nothing to do with all of the great things that happened during his presidency.

I'll have what you're drinking
 
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