ArkAngel: Having lived in Oregon for half my life and now living in Wisconsin, I can confirm that Pacific Northwesterners who don't live in the mountains are indeed snow wimps. Something in Milwaukee that is barely seen as a nuisance would shut down Portland.

Man up, Nancy, and take your insults like the Starbucks-sipping douchetwat hipster that you are

Hey you know what? F*ck you! Maybe I missed the part where you mentioned living in Seattle and specifically the downtown area? Oh, 'cause you didn't.
I've lived here for many years and the problem is the ice, the hills, and the proximity to and the capriciousness of Puget Sound weather. Travel is dangerous, and I spent time living in Montana where driving in the snow was an everyday occurrence.
We're still surrounded by ice that broke several tree and took out power lines .
Several thousand people are still without power, heat and unable to travel freely.
Stick your ill informed attitude up your ass.

I'd dare someone in the Midwest to drive Seattle's hills in an ice storm. Good luck with that.

Adolf Oliver Nipples: Ha. This guy would be dead meat in Pittsburgh. Go ahead, try driving through Beechview when it snows. Canton Avenue is there just daring you to try. Not that any of the streets anywhere nearby are any better. Mt. Washington is brutal even when the streets are dry.

If you can drive in Pittsburgh you can drive anywhere. It's that simple.

*High five*

Although, honestly, with all the ice we're having tonight, I think I'm staying inside. No sense in skidding down into the valley... again.

Angry Drunk Bureaucrat: Adolf Oliver Nipples: Ha. This guy would be dead meat in Pittsburgh. Go ahead, try driving through Beechview when it snows. Canton Avenue is there just daring you to try. Not that any of the streets anywhere nearby are any better. Mt. Washington is brutal even when the streets are dry.

If you can drive in Pittsburgh you can drive anywhere. It's that simple.

*High five*

Although, honestly, with all the ice we're having tonight, I think I'm staying inside. No sense in skidding down into the valley... again.

What's up with the weird booze issues your state has? Yeah, rake on Seattle but we have medical marijuana dispensaries and can buy wine and beer at the gas station, corner market or supermarket - like civilized people!

2wolves: Adolf Oliver Nipples: Go ahead, try driving through Beechview when it snows.

I had a Pinto plowed into the river when I lived in Braddock. The city gave me $95 in compensation.

BS, those things are vintage and collectible.

ArkAngel: AbbeySomeone: ArkAngel: Having lived in Oregon for half my life and now living in Wisconsin, I can confirm that Pacific Northwesterners who don't live in the mountains are indeed snow wimps. Something in Milwaukee that is barely seen as a nuisance would shut down Portland.

Man up, Nancy, and take your insults like the Starbucks-sipping douchetwat hipster that you are

Hey you know what? F*ck you! Maybe I missed the part where you mentioned living in Seattle and specifically the downtown area? Oh, 'cause you didn't.
I've lived here for many years and the problem is the ice, the hills, and the proximity to and the capriciousness of Puget Sound weather. Travel is dangerous, and I spent time living in Montana where driving in the snow was an everyday occurrence.
We're still surrounded by ice that broke several tree and took out power lines .
Several thousand people are still without power, heat and unable to travel freely.
Stick your ill informed attitude up your ass.

I lived in Gresham, just off Portland, right in the Columbia River Gorge. Weather changed very quickly because of the crazy high winds that came through. I know the problems the hills caused, but people drove like morons even on the flat stretches. I also understand that people drive like shiat because they simply aren't used to it.

verbal_jizm: ArkAngel: Having lived in Oregon for half my life and now living in Wisconsin, I can confirm that Pacific Northwesterners who don't live in the mountains are indeed snow wimps. Something in Milwaukee that is barely seen as a nuisance would shut down Portland.

Man up, Nancy, and take your insults like the Starbucks-sipping douchetwat hipster that you are

Notice anything different between Wisconsin and Western Washington? You can see for farking ever in Wisconsin because it's so damn flat. Also, if you lose control in Wisconsin, your only danger is running into the nothing that makes up the majority of the state. Seattle's quite a bit warmer than Wisconsin s ...

Gresham isn't PDX or Seattle. My Mother had a house in East County, I know the conditions. Btw, if you lived in Gresham you must white trash.

Some Bass Playing Guy: That "no power" shiat happens every year up here in New England. Let me play some little farking violins for ya, AbbeySomeone.

Hey, we live in Seattle and should not be inconvenienced or have our routines interrupted.

Some Bass Playing Guy: That "no power" shiat happens every year up here in New England. Let me play some little farking violins for ya, AbbeySomeone.

Sounds like you need a few more nuke plants

ShawnDoc: AbbeySomeone: Gresham isn't PDX or Seattle. My Mother had a house in East County, I know the conditions. Btw, if you lived in Gresham you must white trash.

Who living in Oregon isn't?

This thread has great potential.

The complaints don't make sense:
"A driver atop Queen Anne Hill, after a typical snow-melt-refreeze-snow cycle as we've seen this week, simply has no chance to get to the bottom of the hill without sideswiping half the parked cars en route. Pure physics, friends. Not driving skill."

No, that's driving skill, tard. It's the skill to look at that steep road and say "shiat, I really shouldn't be driving down this steep embankment". It's the skill to know the limits of your driving ability and your car's capabilities. It's the skill to avoid the steep routes and take the much more circuitous path, rather than sliding like an idiot trying to get up or down some of the steep downtown streets.

So stop farking whining that people make fun of the drivers. Yeah, the roads are sometimes terrifying and treacherous. What's pathetic is that we have so many people who are on them with RWD, summer tires, slipping like idiots, and apparently not having a care in the world that they're not going to be getting anywhere by merely slamming down the gas and hoping.

Adolf Oliver Nipples: If you can drive in Pittsburgh you can drive anywhere. It's that simple.

I worked at the Edgar Thompson rolling mill, across the river from Kennywood.

Driving in slush is one thing.
Driving in slush, pulling up behind a steaming truckload of slag dripping with hydrochloric acid is another thing.

/Drives in Vermont now.

ArkAngel: Having lived in Oregon for half my life and now living in Wisconsin, I can confirm that Pacific Northwesterners who don't live in the mountains are indeed snow wimps. Something in Milwaukee that is barely seen as a nuisance would shut down Portland.

Man up, Nancy, and take your insults like the Starbucks-sipping douchetwat hipster that you are

I grew up in Buffalo, and now live in Portland. The small town of about 60,000 people I lived in as a kid had more snowplows than the city of Portland has.

ArkAngel: I lived in Gresham, just off Portland

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH. When did you stop doing meth?

TommyymmoT: Seattle sledder tells off reporter (new window)

Until the anchor went full douche, I was sympathetic to the station.

Should melt off by Monday. Till then I will stay at home

I was kinda feelin' for him, and then;

FTFA: No one, from Jimmy Johnson to Danica Patrick to the premier graduate of the Washington State Patrol's hazardous driving course, can navigate the rare conditions that often attend a major snow dump here.

So, why do you try? I guess that's the real stupidity that people see.

"Yeah, well you couldn't do any better."
"Yes I can. I'll leave my car parked."

Tawnos: It's the skill to avoid the steep routes and take the much more circuitous path

Take a look at a topographic map of the city of Seattle and re-evaluate your response.

ShawnDoc: AbbeySomeone: Gresham isn't PDX or Seattle. My Mother had a house in East County, I know the conditions. Btw, if you lived in Gresham you must white trash.

Who living in Oregon isn't?

So all who live Lake Oswego, Happy Valley, etc... are white trash?

I guess shutting down an entire city is a reasonable alternative.

FTA, "Take it from me: There is no metro area as treacherous as Seattle in snow."

Apparently hasn't seen snow videos from PDX. I loved the videos from Snowpocalypse 2008 when the cars were playing pinball machines, or 2009 when people just abandoned the vehicles en masse on the Sunset Highway.

"I've seen the other cities. I've spun a 360 on ice in Dallas, gone off a snowbound highway near Green Bay and become trapped by a multi-car collision in Spokane."

See, it isn't just Seattle. Sometimes Seattleites have snow-related accidents in other cities, too.

/I kid
//no opinion on Seattle winter, never driven in it

neilbradley: ShawnDoc: AbbeySomeone: Gresham isn't PDX or Seattle. My Mother had a house in East County, I know the conditions. Btw, if you lived in Gresham you must white trash.

Who living in Oregon isn't?

So all who live Lake Oswego, Happy Valley, etc... are white trash?

People who use the term "white trash" usually are. That said, Gresham is full of meth-heads.

/lived in Gresham while I went to school to get a better job/life.
//moved on up... to the West side...

imprimere: //moved on up... to the West side...

Do you own a string of dry cleaners?

Settle down, Seattlites. Oklahomans and Virginians got ridiculed over our reactions to our earthquakes while Californians called us amateurs. We didn't cry about it. Instead, we ridiculed Californians for not knowing how to deal with 100 degree temps and EF-0 tornadoes. If you will feel better, we will let you make fun of us for not knowing how to act when Bigfoot walks through the trees. Will that make you happy?

Siriana: Instead, we ridiculed Californians for not knowing how to deal with 100 degree temps

Well that just goes to show how stupid people are in Oklahoma and Virginia.

Harry_Seldon: imprimere: //moved on up... to the West side...

Do you own a string of dry cleaners?

Nah, on the West side, you just donate your clothes to the Goodwill and buy new ones.

Angry Drunk Bureaucrat: Adolf Oliver Nipples: Ha. This guy would be dead meat in Pittsburgh. Go ahead, try driving through Beechview when it snows. Canton Avenue is there just daring you to try. Not that any of the streets anywhere nearby are any better. Mt. Washington is brutal even when the streets are dry.

If you can drive in Pittsburgh you can drive anywhere. It's that simple.

*High five*

Although, honestly, with all the ice we're having tonight, I think I'm staying inside. No sense in skidding down into the valley... again.

^This and this^

Adolf Oliver Nipples: FTFA: Obviously, some of the aforementioned cities have hills, but not nearly as many in such tight proximity with so much high-rise business and housing on the slopes. I know. I've seen the other cities. I've spun a 360 on ice in Dallas, gone off a snowbound highway near Green Bay and become trapped by a multi-car collision in Spokane. In all instances, there was no damage to me, my rental car or anyone else's, because flat terrain allowed me and other drivers to drive slowly out of the problem.

Ha. This guy would be dead meat in Pittsburgh. Go ahead, try driving through Beechview when it snows. Canton Avenue is there just daring you to try. Not that any of the streets anywhere nearby are any better. Mt. Washington is brutal even when the streets are dry.

If you can drive in Pittsburgh you can drive anywhere. It's that simple.

Have to agree with you there. Every goddamned stoplight around here seems to be at the bottom of some hill intersecting a major highway, especially when it's icy out and I'm driving.

I suck at snow driving, and I'll stay at home if I can get away with it. e.g. right now. fark that shiat.

Sgygus: If I lived in Seattle, I'd blame Canada.

It's true. In Canada, we're obsessed with the weather. In 1966, due to our strong obsession and desire to control it, we perfected a weather-creation machine. It was a black project in Pearson's administration, and it generally makes the weather "nice, innit?" throughout Canada by outposts staged at particular points that are key for deflecting weather away from the seaboards and southern land border. Of course, like any type of machine, it must follow the laws of physics, and energy cannot be created or destroyed. And the waste has to go somewhere.

We generally aim it at Seattle, because we know that Tim Horton's is the only true coffee shop, not this "Starbucks" franchise, in order to vex them.

Although Seattle might tend to overreact when it comes to the snow, LA is far down on the list of cities that have a right to make fun of Seattle.

They act like it's armageddon anytime it RAINS in LA.

Having grown up in Boonville NY (which holds the highest average snow fall yearly in NYS) I'd like to tell Seattle to shut the fark up and deal with it you pussies.
Not like they got two and a half feet of snow at once, which happens often here.

envirovore: Having grown up in Boonville NY (which holds the highest average snow fall yearly in NYS) I'd like to tell Seattle to shut the fark up and deal with it you pussies.
Not like they got two and a half feet of snow at once, which happens often here.

Let me guess. You've never been to the PNW?

I will listen to the LA Times when it describes the microclimates on Kim Kardashian's continental derriere.

Best line of the article.

davidphogan: envirovore: Having grown up in Boonville NY (which holds the highest average snow fall yearly in NYS) I'd like to tell Seattle to shut the fark up and deal with it you pussies.
Not like they got two and a half feet of snow at once, which happens often here.

Let me guess. You've never been to the PNW?

I have not.
Does driving various poorly plowed mountainous back roads count? Cause I've done that.

/has had to drive in conditions where you couldn't see the end of your hood.
//it's near terrifying actually