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EngineerBoy
2012-01-20 08:14:18 PM
She must be like, "I gotta get some extra cheese on my Whopper."
MattyFridays
2012-01-20 08:14:23 PM
"Not from living a lavish lifestyle"?
If you burn 80 million in less than 15 years, YOU'RE LIVING A LAVISH LIFESTYLE.
themindiswatching
2012-01-20 08:14:57 PM
I don't know much about football, but why couldn't another team sign him? Too old?
MattyFridays
2012-01-20 08:19:10 PM
45,000 a year in child support I could see for four kids. A littler over 10k a year for each kid.
But he's spending $135,000 a year PER CHILD.
Where the fark does that money go?
Some of the best private schools in the country (only) cost $50k per child. 10k for clothes, necessities, etc.
Marcus Aurelius
2012-01-20 08:19:33 PM
The whole time he was in Philly I was astounded at the level of his moroninity. He's so dumb, he has no idea how dumb he is.
MattyFridays
2012-01-20 08:20:05 PM
themindiswatching
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I don't know much about football, but why couldn't another team sign him? Too old?
Too old, and attitude problems. Me first type of player.
I'm surprised that no one picked him up as an analyst. Surely he could make more money on TV than being in arenaball.
crotchgrabber
2012-01-20 08:20:27 PM
themindiswatching
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I don't know much about football, but why couldn't another team sign him? Too old?
It's mainly because he's a complete ass.
MattyFridays
2012-01-20 08:23:31 PM
Is it so hard to set up an annuity of 5-6 million dollars of a player's salary that they can draw a salary from when they retire?
I know the NFL has classes they teach to rookies now, but it just seems like that world is filled with scumbags and jagoffs.
Justin Bourne was tweeting the other day about how the Winter Classic alumni game had a 4 million dollar revenue but none of the players saw dollar 1 for appearing in the game. That's kind of messed up.
(obviously players like Messier, Leetch, Richter and Kypreos have their own money, but what about a dude like Darren Turcotte, who's probably coaching high school JV hockey somewhere?)
IAmRight
2012-01-20 08:30:11 PM
MattyFridays
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I'm surprised that no one picked him up as an analyst. Surely he could make more money on TV than being in arenaball.
A) the IFL is not Arena Football - it's indoor football and it's played differently.
B) Yeah, he'd make a ton more in broadcasting - IFL players make $200/game with a $50 win bonus (at least as of a year or so ago). And I don't think part-owners are exactly making a ton of money off the venture, either.
C) Damn, I almost feel bad for TO now. Child support payments need to be re-calculated when people lose their millions-of-dollars-per-year job (not that they should ever really be that high)
degenerate-afro
2012-01-20 08:30:40 PM
themindiswatching
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I don't know much about football, but why couldn't another team sign him? Too old?
He causes most of his problems himself. FTFA:
"I don't have no friends," he told GQ. "I don't want no friends. That's how I feel."
That's the attitude that causes problems for him. If he asked around, there are players who would be willing to help him out (Ochocinco for example who is known for helping people out), but he acts like an ass and it comes back to bite him in the end.
foo monkey
2012-01-20 08:32:08 PM
TNB.
Also "I don't have no friends," he told GQ. "I don't want no friends. That's how I feel." He's clinically depressed.
MeinRS6
2012-01-20 08:34:02 PM
A fool and his money are soon parted - and you reap what you sow.
Earguy
2012-01-20 08:35:49 PM
MattyFridays
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"Not from living a lavish lifestyle"?
If you burn 80 million in less than 15 years, YOU'RE LIVING A LAVISH LIFESTYLE.
Specifically, buying a house in NJ for $3.9M, having a multimillion dollar property in Atlanta, and a half-million dollar home in L.A.
And what do you think he drove? A Kia?
The dude made some bad investments, and it's easy to blame advisors. But the dumbass hired them.
Now, go play in the Canadian league, or get a booth job, or make personal appearances or something.
AdolfOliverPanties
2012-01-20 08:37:37 PM
Who didn't think things would end badly for this guy? I can't decide if he thinks too much of himself to actually kill himself or if he could go through with it. He is certainly good at highly publicized so-called attempts at suicide.
Apparently he doesn't have 80 million reasons to not kill himself anymore.
Too bad no one ever got through to him to let him know what an asshole he is. Reminds me of that scene from the underrated and underappreciated Ricky Gervais/Greg Kinnear movie "Ghost Town."
Dr. Pincus, at some point in your life, you're gonna have to stop and ask yourself the ultimate question: This business of... being such a farking prick, what is it really getting me? Huh?
Marcus Aurelius
2012-01-20 08:43:56 PM
MattyFridays
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45,000 a year in child support I could see for four kids. A littler over 10k a year for each kid.
But he's spending $135,000 a year PER CHILD.
Where the fark does that money go?
Some of the best private schools in the country (only) cost $50k per child. 10k for clothes, necessities, etc.
Child support sucks for the truly wealthy. The payments are typically based on "standard of living" - which means if your kid was filthy rich when you were there, they're still filthy rich after you leave. Even if you lose your job or get cut out of your organization. You have to go to court to get the amount adjusted. The whole process sucks. But it sucks less than all the alternatives.
Now if only good divorce lawyers didn't cost $300 an hour, BEFORE they padded their fees.
Lunchlady
2012-01-20 08:46:38 PM
Him and Albert Haynesworth should have started the "I'm a dumbass who is wasting every gift I'm given, help me." charity.
SoCalSurfer
2012-01-20 08:46:42 PM
Antonio cromartie?????
Seriously, that guy needs a vasectomy. He pays more in child support than he makes in salary
mc_madness
2012-01-20 08:48:30 PM
I feel bad for him. Child support is disproportionate for the wealthy.
Quasar
2012-01-20 08:58:35 PM
The $80 million or so he had made in his career is almost gone, he said, but not because he lived a lavish lifestyle.
That's odd; I don't feel the slightest bit of sympathy.
YouPeopleAreCrazy
2012-01-20 09:02:48 PM
Marcus Aurelius
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Child support sucks for the truly wealthy. The payments are typically based on "standard of living" - which means if your kid was filthy rich when you were there, they're still filthy rich after you leave. Even if you lose your job or get cut out of your organization.
It sucks in the other direction as well. I know a dude who is (sometimes) paying a court ordered $32/week. Based on his paycheck as a 19 year old Burger King fool.
His kid is now 9, dude is creeping up on 30, and is making significantly more than he did as a 19 year old. Is he paying more? Not a chance.
/$32 a week
//are T.O.s kids worth 670% of some other kid? Why?
djkutch
2012-01-20 09:08:48 PM
$45K a month to raise a child? Little farker better cure cancer.
SoCalSurfer
2012-01-20 09:08:50 PM
YouPeopleAreCrazy
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Marcus Aurelius: Child support sucks for the truly wealthy. The payments are typically based on "standard of living" - which means if your kid was filthy rich when you were there, they're still filthy rich after you leave. Even if you lose your job or get cut out of your organization.
It sucks in the other direction as well. I know a dude who is (sometimes) paying a court ordered $32/week. Based on his paycheck as a 19 year old Burger King fool.
His kid is now 9, dude is creeping up on 30, and is making significantly more than he did as a 19 year old. Is he paying more? Not a chance.
/$32 a week
//are T.O.s kids worth 670% of some other kid? Why?
Think of the agony of going from rich kid to poor kid. Oh man can you imagine the ridicule in school? God forbid they may have to walk to school or even not be able to afford a 6 figure wardrobe.
/didn't have a car doing hs
//felt so good to key the porche that the rich douche drove to school (true story)
SoCalSurfer
2012-01-20 09:09:29 PM
SoCalSurfer
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YouPeopleAreCrazy: Marcus Aurelius: Child support sucks for the truly wealthy. The payments are typically based on "standard of living" - which means if your kid was filthy rich when you were there, they're still filthy rich after you leave. Even if you lose your job or get cut out of your organization.
It sucks in the other direction as well. I know a dude who is (sometimes) paying a court ordered $32/week. Based on his paycheck as a 19 year old Burger King fool.
His kid is now 9, dude is creeping up on 30, and is making significantly more than he did as a 19 year old. Is he paying more? Not a chance.
/$32 a week
//are T.O.s kids worth 670% of some other kid? Why?
Think of the agony of going from rich kid to poor kid. Oh man can you imagine the ridicule in school? God forbid they may have to walk to school or even not be able to afford a 6 figure wardrobe.
/didn't have a car doing hs
//felt so good to key the porche that the rich douche drove to school (true story)
*during, damn autocorrect
LeroyBourne
2012-01-20 09:17:12 PM
What happened to the TO-CHO show. That looked golden!
hbk72777
2012-01-20 09:18:16 PM
How much does a bullet go for these days?
/and someone to pull the trigger, this prick has failed twice already
Daedalus27
2012-01-20 09:19:04 PM
Marcus Aurelius
:
MattyFridays: 45,000 a year in child support I could see for four kids. A littler over 10k a year for each kid.
But he's spending $135,000 a year PER CHILD.
Where the fark does that money go?
Some of the best private schools in the country (only) cost $50k per child. 10k for clothes, necessities, etc.
Child support sucks for the truly wealthy. The payments are typically based on "standard of living" - which means if your kid was filthy rich when you were there, they're still filthy rich after you leave. Even if you lose your job or get cut out of your organization. You have to go to court to get the amount adjusted. The whole process sucks. But it sucks less than all the alternatives.
Now if only good divorce lawyers didn't cost $300 an hour, BEFORE they padded their fees.
YouPeopleAreCrazy
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Marcus Aurelius: Child support sucks for the truly wealthy. The payments are typically based on "standard of living" - which means if your kid was filthy rich when you were there, they're still filthy rich after you leave. Even if you lose your job or get cut out of your organization.
It sucks in the other direction as well. I know a dude who is (sometimes) paying a court ordered $32/week. Based on his paycheck as a 19 year old Burger King fool.
His kid is now 9, dude is creeping up on 30, and is making significantly more than he did as a 19 year old. Is he paying more? Not a chance.
/$32 a week
//are T.O.s kids worth 670% of some other kid? Why?
Thats why you go to court to get an adjustment one way or the other. If you don't have the income when the award was made, you get it adjusted. Your going to have to prove it up, but it would definately be worth it to get the support payment down to something more realistic. That being said, TO still has assets so it might not be that much lower as the courts are going to see he still has resources available to pay for his children's (IE golddiggers) support. Similarly, if a former near deadbeat father is now making more money, baby momma should go to court and get the payment adjusted upward.
Jack_Knopf
2012-01-20 09:21:14 PM
I know a bit about this guy. He is an ass and people around him take complete advantage of him. Which is the chicken and which is the egg?
I feel for him because all he's ever been able to do is play football. He's not the sharpest knife in the drawer and has been preyed on by his "friends". Sure his attitude is pathetic. However, what would yours be like if every person in your life was a leech out to strip you of whatever they can?
MAYORBOB
2012-01-20 09:24:14 PM
A commenter to the original article posed the obvious question of how anyone could burn thru $80 million dollars. It's got an obvious answer -- poor dude suddenly hits the lottery of professional sports and he attracts all sorts of leeches willing to spend his money for him as he thinks there is no end to the gravy train. Ask TO, Allen Iverson and practically any boxer ever managed by Don King.
TO is an exceptional case because he spent his entire career doing his best to alienate everyone he ever played with. So it's a good thing he doesn't want friends.
djkutch
2012-01-20 09:25:26 PM
Daedalus27
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Thats why you go to court to get an adjustment one way or the other. If you don't have the income when the award was made, you get it adjusted. Your going to have to prove it up, but it would definately be worth it to get the support payment down to something more realistic.
I suppose the difference would be eaten up by attorneys.
/marriage is sacred, see
IAmRight
2012-01-20 09:27:42 PM
Jack_Knopf
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Sure his attitude is pathetic. However, what would yours be like if every person in your life was a leech out to strip you of whatever they can?
Exactly. Tough to say where it comes from first but I know most of the elite athletes are this way when they're in middle school or so - so I feel like it's more people around them.
IAmRight
2012-01-20 09:29:20 PM
MAYORBOB
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Ask TO, Allen Iverson and practically any boxer ever managed by Don King.
Ask nearly anyone who has ever been poor and been given sudden wealth. Money management isn't an inherent gift or natural for people.
Mugato
2012-01-20 09:47:24 PM
A black guy paying child support? Yeah, he must have pissed off the man upstairs.
YouPeopleAreCrazy
2012-01-20 09:48:07 PM
IAmRight
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Exactly. Tough to say where it comes from first but I know most of the elite athletes are this way when they're in middle school or so - so I feel like it's more people around them.
Also, it's coaches and parents telling them they can do no wrong.
Local cops letting them out of a DUI or rape charge, because they have to play Friday night in the playoffs.
Local car dealers (alumni) letting them 'borrow' a car for a year or two.
Hot cheerleaders drooling over them.
And this continues on through college sports and beyond.
Nuno311
2012-01-20 09:55:19 PM
MattyFridays
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45,000 a year in child support I could see for four kids. A littler over 10k a year for each kid.
But he's spending $135,000 a year PER CHILD.
Where the fark does that money go?
Some of the best private schools in the country (only) cost $50k per child. 10k for clothes, necessities, etc.
$45k per MONTH (I'm assuming for all 4 kids) so that's $500k a year right there. Average age is 8. Thats $4M. Minus taxes, agent fees, etc..etc..
Playing for 15 years, making $74M (assume $60M after agent's cut) and he's down to $4M/Year before he's paid any taxes. And he lost an entire years salary on ONE home sale gone bad...and a couple of bad investments and a couple of nice cars and boom...you're 38 and got very little left with another 40 years to live.
I'm not saying he was destitute, but it wasn't like he was Vanila Ice buying a $600 Porcshe after making $1M. I'm sure he's living just fine but again, 40 more years to live and still shelling out $500k a year in child support with no money coming in??
I semi-liked the dude (off the field). He always kept himself in shape and was a fun interview. Unlike the Albert Hanyesworths of the world. Can't say I feel bad for him because 4 kids from 3 different chicks is just the worst stereotype...but still.
relcec
2012-01-20 10:16:29 PM
why the hell should your kids ever need $500k a year in child support? that level is spousal support disquised as child support, nothing more. just because you are rich doesn't mean the kids mom has to live like the 1%.
relcec
2012-01-20 10:17:49 PM
dislesik or moronia or something, I has it.
Linux_Yes
2012-01-20 10:20:14 PM
welcome to America, Big Boy. u didn't think all those hangers on really liked YOU, did you? silly rabbit.
Philbigtime
2012-01-20 10:26:14 PM
SoCalSurfer
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//felt so good to key the porche that the rich douche drove to school (true story)
OK, let me preface this by saying that I am by no means an expert on the subject, but I have a nagging suspicion that this makes
you
the douche.
Shakes999
2012-01-20 10:26:23 PM
I feel sorry for him but then I re-read that each kid has a different mom. Sorry dude, after "Surprise" number 2 from groupie of the week, you should have done something to rectify the apparently reoccurring problem. Bad situation and I dont wish it on anyone but come ON.
dopeydwarf
2012-01-20 10:30:14 PM
FTA: Owens also pays $44,600 a month in child support for his four children, ages 5 to 12.
Three of the four mothers
have sued him.
Oops.
12349876
2012-01-20 10:34:47 PM
MattyFridays
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Is it so hard to set up an annuity of 5-6 million dollars of a player's salary that they can draw a salary from when they retire?
It's MY money and I want it NOW
cptjeff
2012-01-20 10:34:54 PM
relcec
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why the hell should your kids ever need $500k a year in child support? that level is spousal support disquised as child support, nothing more. just because you are rich doesn't mean the kids mom has to live like the 1%.
My thought. Child support really needs to be capped. $1k a month per kid (obviously, this could be debated). More than enough for food, clothes, and public school. If it's actually about supporting the kid, that's about what you would need, right?
Crewmannumber6
2012-01-20 11:16:48 PM
Speaking only for myself, let me say tough shiat Terrell
konigsforst
2012-01-20 11:22:52 PM
cptjeff
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relcec: why the hell should your kids ever need $500k a year in child support? that level is spousal support disquised as child support, nothing more. just because you are rich doesn't mean the kids mom has to live like the 1%.
My thought. Child support really needs to be capped. $1k a month per kid (obviously, this could be debated). More than enough for food, clothes, and public school. If it's actually about supporting the kid, that's about what you would need, right?
it isn't about the father of the child paying for his child. there are cases of children being proven, through DNA samples, to NOT be some guy's child but the guy is still ordered to pay.
ChrisDe
2012-01-20 11:26:08 PM
Kimothy
2012-01-20 11:37:51 PM
cptjeff
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relcec: why the hell should your kids ever need $500k a year in child support? that level is spousal support disquised as child support, nothing more. just because you are rich doesn't mean the kids mom has to live like the 1%.
My thought. Child support really needs to be capped. $1k a month per kid (obviously, this could be debated). More than enough for food, clothes, and public school. If it's actually about supporting the kid, that's about what you would need, right?
The problem with that is if the father has tons of money and the mother was a homemaker, then the two houses are unequal after the divorce. This makes the kids more likely to live with the parent that can provide all the goodies, leaving the other out in the cold. The courts try to rectify this situation by making the wealthier parent pay enough to give some semblance of equality for their quality of life. The problem with T.O. is that he hasn't gone to court to lower his support payments - which should happen if he can prove such a dramatic loss of income. The children (and thus their mothers) are not entitled to a quality of life that is higher than TO's, (or lower, for that matter). Do goldigging biatches take advantage of this? Absolutely. Should they see a reduction when they fark a guy who can't hold on to $80 million? Absolutely. The guy's a poor choice when he already has more than one babymomma.
//Everyone who mentioned the poor getting sudden wealth and going out of control is absolutely right.
mc_madness
2012-01-21 12:00:44 AM
Poor dumb people have it easy. They can breed like cattle without fear of financial consequences.
Look at Southern California...
relcec
2012-01-21 12:04:28 AM
Kimothy
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cptjeff: relcec: why the hell should your kids ever need $500k a year in child support? that level is spousal support disquised as child support, nothing more. just because you are rich doesn't mean the kids mom has to live like the 1%.
My thought. Child support really needs to be capped. $1k a month per kid (obviously, this could be debated). More than enough for food, clothes, and public school. If it's actually about supporting the kid, that's about what you would need, right?
The problem with that is if the father has tons of money and the mother was a homemaker,
then the two houses are unequal after the divorce.
This makes the kids more likely to live with the parent that can provide all the goodies, leaving the other out in the cold. The courts try to rectify this situation by making the wealthier parent pay enough to give some semblance of equality for their quality of life. The problem with T.O. is that he hasn't gone to court to lower his support payments - which should happen if he can prove such a dramatic loss of income. The children (and thus their mothers) are not entitled to a quality of life that is higher than TO's, (or lower, for that matter). Do goldigging biatches take advantage of this? Absolutely. Should they see a reduction when they fark a guy who can't hold on to $80 million? Absolutely. The guy's a poor choice when he already has more than one babymomma.
//Everyone who mentioned the poor getting sudden wealth and going out of control is absolutely right.
who gives a shiat.
children do not get to pick who they live with.
spacemanjones
2012-01-21 12:22:01 AM
foo monkey
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TNB.
Also "I don't have no friends," he told GQ. "I don't want no friends. That's how I feel." He's clinically depressed.
And he's a fan of double negatives.
browneye
2012-01-21 12:28:54 AM
foo monkey: Also "I don't have no friends," he told GQ. "I don't want no friends. That's how I feel." He's clinically depressed.
This. - which is not surprising. I've always thought much of the interpersonal problems TO had with players and coaches over the years was due to some kind of bipolar.disorder.
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