"We'll be leaving as soon as the lemon scented napkins arrive!"

The day that I see people behave in a calm respective efficient manner during a crisis I'll do it myself.

However until then it's "Outta my way biatch, not going to die here today *kicks kid in the head and runs toward nearest exit*".

"the 45^o" tilt you are experiencing is a service we provide for our customers."

Walker: Whoever lied and sent those passengers back to their rooms to die needs to be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law for manslaughter. Those rooms became their tombs.

Well, at least it rhymes. Makes it sound better somehow.

Cruse lines need to start confiscating those camera phones.
Makes the cover up much harder when people can record your ducebagery

scottydoesntknow: wildstarr: My god, how much bigger of a cluster f*ck is this gonna grow into?

This is just the tip of the iceberg

Yeah, and "just the tip" is usually a lie for "I'm going to plunge in balls deep in a few seconds."

Jake Havechek: "the 45o" tilt you are experiencing is a service we provide for our customers."

A 45-degree tilt fee may be applied.

I read the headline and thought it was Fark, 1912. Not Fark, 2012.

Lawyers must love cell phone video. It's made their jobs so much easier.

You'd think people would know that by now, and not make foolish or possibly actionable public statements.

What do HD television stations have against black bars? Why would you use the most visually annoying way of presenting SD footage? WHY?

scottydoesntknow: wildstarr: My god, how much bigger of a cluster f*ck is this gonna grow into?

This is just the tip of the iceberg



/well played

Smelly Pirate Hooker: Lawyers must love cell phone video. It's made their jobs so much easier.

You'd think people would know that by now, and not make foolish or possibly actionable public statements.

Yeah, I'm thinking the spokesperson who published that foolish "it's all the fault of the passengers, the crew put out a great team effort" letter is probably going to be spending the next few years looking for work.

There's nothing like evidence to destroy even the ballsiest PR effort.

Well, to be fair, the passengers' panic clearly delayed the crew getting off the ship as fast as they would have liked.

/was seen leaving the ship

scottydoesntknow: wildstarr: My god, how much bigger of a cluster f*ck is this gonna grow into?

This is just the tip of the iceberg

I think the reality of the situation is just sinking in

Wow talk about the poster child for the fail boat pic

stuffy: Cruse lines need to start confiscating those camera phones.
Makes the cover up much harder when people can record your ducebagery

Exactly!

On fark here just the other day everyone was orchestrating the message to blame it all on the poor old captain. Apparently farkers are idiots and a few days late at that. It was obvious from the beginning..

Anyone with half a brain know this is a failure on multiple levels with Carnival being the biggest one to blame.
If only there was this equipment called sonar that even 30 foot boats have..



LEAVE CARNIVAL ALONE !! IT WAS ALL THE CAPTAIN !! POOR CARNIVAL!! CARNIVAL IS NOT RESPONSIBLE PAY NO ATTENTION TO THAT VIDEO!! WAAWWAAAWAA

pudding7: Walker: Whoever lied and sent those passengers back to their rooms to die needs to be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law for manslaughter. Those rooms became their tombs.

I assume this crewmember was not fully informed either, and was told to have passengers return to their cabins. I would be amazed if random crew members were deciding on their own what announcements to make, and to whom and when to make them. If the captain and officers weren't being honest with the rest of the crew, then there's not much they can do.

In this case, I'm alright with the "I was just following orders" defense.

Yeah, I don't blame this crew member. Her talk of the electrical failure is probably what she was told. And she was probably told that she should calm people down and avoid panic, since panic is well-known to be a problem in any crowded situation. I doubt she had any indication from the bridge that they were in danger of sinking.

Maybe I'm missing it, but I'm surprised that there are not more amateur videos posted of the whole event. Wouldn't pretty much thousands of people have been recording it on their phones and cameras?

thistime:

Anyone with half a brain know this is a failure on multiple levels with Carnival being the biggest one to blame.
If only there was this equipment called sonar that even 30 foot boats have..


The problem is the captain may have already been doing some depth-finding with an unregistered passenger at the time. How much multi-tasking do you want one poor man to do?!

"Nothing to see here!"



"Remain calm- all is well!"

atheneschild: thistime:

Anyone with half a brain know this is a failure on multiple levels with Carnival being the biggest one to blame.
If only there was this equipment called sonar that even 30 foot boats have..


The problem is the captain may have already been doing some depth-finding with an unregistered passenger at the time. How much multi-tasking do you want one poor man to do?!

I'm also wondering how the passengers died. I bet a lot drowned, due to inability to swim, undertow, or medical conditions in the water. I'm betting that those who died on ship died of medical conditions, or maybe trampling. I bet few were trapped in their rooms, but I'm not sure. I know they have found 11 bodies - any word on what those bodies died from? Other than Carnival and Captain stupidity?

Crew did die:

List of Dead:
Tomas Alberto Costilla Mendoza - 49 from Peru, was a crew member aboard the Costa Concordia when she sank off the coast of Italy on January 13, 2012.

List of Dead:
Francis Servel, 71, gave the last life jacket to his wife and told her to jump from the Costa Concordia. He jumped after her without one and was never seen again.

I guess some were getting trapped in their cabins. :(
A Korean couple on their honeymoon were both found alive in their cabin after being trapped for more than 24 hours.

Multiple staff members:
There are still at least 17 passengers/workers that are still unaccounted for. 6 were thought to be part of the ship's staff and 11 passengers.

atheneschild: Crew did die:

List of Dead:
Tomas Alberto Costilla Mendoza - 49 from Peru, was a crew member aboard the Costa Concordia when she sank off the coast of Italy on January 13, 2012.

None of the navigational officers died. Nearly all of them left the ship with the captain on his launch (not a lifeboat). They were nearly the first people off the ship and then watched it sink from the shore for over an hour before the Italian coast guard contacted him. Read the court transcripts linked in the thread from the earlier article today.

Step 1: Crew & passengers sue Carnival.

Step 2: Carnival threatens to move its Giant Cans Of Norovirus out of Italy if an Italian judge rules in favor of the plaintiffs.

Step 3: Profit (for Carnival, at least)

gblive: atheneschild: Crew did die:

List of Dead:
Tomas Alberto Costilla Mendoza - 49 from Peru, was a crew member aboard the Costa Concordia when she sank off the coast of Italy on January 13, 2012.

None of the navigational officers died. Nearly all of them left the ship with the captain on his launch (not a lifeboat). They were nearly the first people off the ship and then watched it sink from the shore for over an hour before the Italian coast guard contacted him. Read the court transcripts linked in the thread from the earlier article today.

It's so farked up. What is the quote? "Get back on board your ship, for fark's sake!"

Info in my hands indicates he was steering too close to shore so a headwaiter could wave to his family.

I have a GPS accurate to 6 feet which cost me $89.00. Someone like to explain how a ship worth nearly $1 billion doesn't have better navigation equipment?

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"Nothing to see here!"


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"Remain calm- all is well!"

Came here for this, leaving satisfied!

jabelar:
Maybe I'm missing it, but I'm surprised that there are not more amateur videos posted of the whole event. Wouldn't pretty much thousands of people have been recording it on their phones and cameras?


I don't know.. if my boat hit a rock and began to list, the last thing on my mind would be to whip out the cameraphone and start recording. In fact, if I may be all ITG here for a moment, if in the course of evacuation I had to make a choice between trampling Hitler or some arsehole filming the chaos with an iPad, well, we'd all probably be singing 'Deutschland Uber Alles' in the lifeboat.

gunther_bumpass: jabelar:
Maybe I'm missing it, but I'm surprised that there are not more amateur videos posted of the whole event. Wouldn't pretty much thousands of people have been recording it on their phones and cameras?


I don't know.. if my boat hit a rock and began to list, the last thing on my mind would be to whip out the cameraphone and start recording. In fact, if I may be all ITG here for a moment, if in the course of evacuation I had to make a choice between trampling Hitler or some arsehole filming the chaos with an iPad, well, we'd all probably be singing 'Deutschland Uber Alles' in the lifeboat.

What you say is very reasonable and I probably wouldn't be thinking about recording the event either. But if youtube vids have proven nothing else, it's that many people are happy to have a go at recording something even if they are in immediate danger. I'm kinda surprised there aren't more vids either.

Also, whats the possiblity that the captain is a psycho and when presented with the opportunity, decided that he might as well take advantage of the situation. Maybe he just figured 'when else will I get the chance to possibly kill dozens of people and make it look like an accident'.

/Not serious about that last part
//Captain does sound like an almighty douche though

Tiga: olddinosaur: Info in my hands indicates he was steering too close to shore so a headwaiter could wave to his family.

I have a GPS accurate to 6 feet which cost me $89.00. Someone like to explain how a ship worth nearly $1 billion doesn't have better navigation equipment?

Apparently he turned off the navigation for some reason.

I hope every understands that the captain doesn't actually pilot the ship. Hell, the captain may not have even been on the bridge at the time. But that doesn't relieve him of responsibility for his ship and crew.

I don't know about Italy, but here in the US, most non-naval vessels are piloted into port by harbor pilots, who board the vessel as it is about to enter the harbor channel. It's really cool to watch these guys board the ship. It's actually rather dangerous and not for the timid.

FTFA: An Italian television station made public Thursday new amateur video showing a staffer of the cruise ship that last week ran aground off Tuscany urging a hallway full of passengers in life jackets to return to their rooms.

Made my head hurt.