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Hundreds of primary school-age children granted licences to use shotguns. What could possibly go wrong?
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Meatzilla
2012-01-20 12:07:14 AM
Why in the fark would a 10-year old need a license to use a shotgun in the first place?
Oh. It's bloody England. Nevermind.
/and, who gives a crap anyway, it's bloody england
Fark It
2012-01-20 12:54:57 AM
What could possibly go wrong?
A bunch of kids could have a good time while learning gun safety while popular British notions regarding guns (the kind spawned by the media and politicians) could be undermined.
PacManDreaming
2012-01-20 02:03:14 AM
FTA:
"Between 2008 and 2010, a total of 281 children aged 11 and under were granted licences - one of them as young as seven."
Feh...I was shooting guns before I was 10 years old. If you learn gun safety and responsibility when you're young, it usually sticks with you for the rest of your life.
PacManDreaming
2012-01-20 02:05:00 AM
Oh, and we didn't need a license, either.
Adolf Oliver Nipples
2012-01-20 02:28:34 AM
What is with you British, anyway? Can't you, I don't know, supervise your children? Hell, my son is 9 and he already has himself a scoped .22 that he shoots with my supervision. Guess what? It's no big deal. Get a grip.
specialk111
2012-01-20 03:38:35 AM
He does for this one
TKM
2012-01-20 03:39:00 AM
Started at 7 with an M1 Garand.
Pommy poofters.
johnson442
2012-01-20 03:40:22 AM
An armed society is a polite society.
Hey, no more schoolyard bully!
wallywam1
2012-01-20 03:40:24 AM
PacManDreaming
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FTA: "Between 2008 and 2010, a total of 281 children aged 11 and under were granted licences - one of them as young as seven."
Feh...I was shooting guns before I was 10 years old. If you learn gun safety and responsibility when you're young, it usually sticks with you for the rest of your life.
Me too. Closely-supervised target shooting as a preschooler. Unsupervised hunting at age 10. Not that uncommon if you grew up in the sticks.
Manic_Repressive
2012-01-20 03:42:22 AM
I started shooting clay pigeons with a 20 gauge Remington when I was in fourth grade. It's not really that big of a deal.
Cyno01
2012-01-20 03:43:46 AM
OH MY GOD, GUNS! EVERYONE PANIC AND shiat YOUR PANTS!!!!!11112@@@!!!!!ELEVENTY11!!!!! !
Bigdogdaddy
2012-01-20 03:53:35 AM
I bet that woman who's 10 year old boy that is being tried for murder in Florida wishes they hadn't licensed shotguns! Oh wait, he used a knife. LET'S BAN ALL KNIVES!!!
upright_apes_r_us
2012-01-20 03:56:35 AM
If Briton bans their toddlers from having guns then only third world toddlers will have guns.
RatMaster999
2012-01-20 03:59:28 AM
Started shooting cans with a .22 when I was three (needed to rest it on folded jacket).
Started shooting bows (crappy little plastic thing) and pistols (Walther PP and Ruger Security Six) at seven.
Started shooting shotguns (semi-auto 12ga) at 11 and was given a 12ga Mossberg 500 at 13.
I see nothing wrong with these kids learning to handle a firearm responsibly. Better than being like the rest of the UK and shiatting themselves at the mere thought of someone (even cops) having a firearm.
/varsity rifle team in high school
dandude28
2012-01-20 04:02:17 AM
OMG!! the horror!! I first shot a shotgun at age 8.
Igor Jakovsky
2012-01-20 04:04:10 AM
If you write SEVEN in the headline it means I should be more shocked and outragey I spose.
/was shooting a .22 and .410 when I was 6 or 7. Didn't need a license either.
Bob_Sled
2012-01-20 04:10:07 AM
wallywam1
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PacManDreaming: FTA: "Between 2008 and 2010, a total of 281 children aged 11 and under were granted licences - one of them as young as seven."
Feh...I was shooting guns before I was 10 years old. If you learn gun safety and responsibility when you're young, it usually sticks with you for the rest of your life.
Me too. Closely-supervised target shooting as a preschooler. Unsupervised hunting at age 10. Not that uncommon if you grew up in the sticks.
At age ten when I started we were allowed to buy ammunition.
Shatner's Bassoon
2012-01-20 04:15:36 AM
This simply can't be true; a well-known Farker told me a couple of years ago that it was practically impossible to be granted a gun licence in the UK (despite several members of my family having one).
zcat
2012-01-20 04:26:03 AM
What I'm seeing is "Everyone! Panic about this thing which has been around for some time and hasn't been causing trouble!"
'The second is whether the chief constable feels there is no reason to grant an application,' said the MP. 'This wording skews things massively in favour of the applicants, putting the onus on the police to say why it shouldn't be granted.'
That would let the constable deny the application by simply saying "I don't see any reason to grant this application", skewing things massively
against
the applicants. I don't understand how the MP could say the exact opposite with a straight face.
base935
2012-01-20 04:30:55 AM
Came here for the Columbine references.
/Leaving disappointed.
DrExplosion
2012-01-20 04:37:45 AM
zcat
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What I'm seeing is "Everyone! Panic about this thing which has been around for some time and hasn't been causing trouble!"
'The second is whether the chief constable feels there is no reason to grant an application,' said the MP. 'This wording skews things massively in favour of the applicants, putting the onus on the police to say why it shouldn't be granted.'
That would let the constable deny the application by simply saying "I don't see any reason to grant this application", skewing things massively against the applicants. I don't understand how the MP could say the exact opposite with a straight face.
You almost have to admire such brazen dishonesty.
I mean, really, I ain't even mad.
Vern
2012-01-20 04:39:22 AM
TKM
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Started at 7 with an M1 Garand.
Pommy poofters.
I'm amazed that you could hold an M1 at 7. Those things are farking boats with a barrel. I love them, the weight really helps reduce recoil, and the .30-06 is a great round, but at 7 years old? Either you were a giant 7 year old, or had really negligent guardians.
4estGimp
2012-01-20 04:43:21 AM
I got a double barreled shotgun for my 8th birthday. My grandfather had to cut 2" off the stock so I could hold it properly.
Darklemming
2012-01-20 04:46:51 AM
A license for a shotgun? Damn.
I worked at a summer camp and one of things they did was take 5th graders trap shooting.
/In suburban Connecitcut
//Not one single complaint from the parents either
Quinsisdos
2012-01-20 04:50:05 AM
Guns? Who needs guns?
/Brit
//Archer
DrExplosion
2012-01-20 04:51:19 AM
Actually, as much as I hate to agree with the bastards...
FTFA:
Last night he said: 'These are very disturbing figures. These children are below the age of criminal responsibility and yet are being issued with firearm licenses.
While I love my guns as much as the next guy and think their current state of affairs is ridiculous, I can actually see where they're coming from on this. I'm not keen on the idea of the government authorizing someone to use a gun but being unable to hold them accountable for what they might do with it.
Obviously they just need to remove the whole "age of criminal responsibility" thing and try newborns as adults. Stupid, freedom-hating Brits.
Cyno01
2012-01-20 04:59:06 AM
DrExplosion
:
Actually, as much as I hate to agree with the bastards...
FTFA:
Last night he said: 'These are very disturbing figures. These children are below the age of criminal responsibility and yet are being issued with firearm licenses.
While I love my guns as much as the next guy and think their current state of affairs is ridiculous, I can actually see where they're coming from on this. I'm not keen on the idea of the government authorizing someone to use a gun but being unable to hold them accountable for what they might do with it.
Obviously they just need to remove the whole "age of criminal responsibility" thing and try newborns as adults. Stupid, freedom-hating Brits.
ElevenBravo
2012-01-20 05:01:16 AM
It sounds crazy but the earlier you teach kids to respect and safely fear guns the better. If a childs only access to guns is call of duty then that kid has potential to be a dangerous kid. I was taught how to shoot early with a lot of supervision and I turned out fine.
ElevenBravo
2012-01-20 05:05:06 AM
RatMaster999
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Started shooting cans with a .22 when I was three (needed to rest it on folded jacket).
Started shooting bows (crappy little plastic thing) and pistols (Walther PP and Ruger Security Six) at seven.
Started shooting shotguns (semi-auto 12ga) at 11 and was given a 12ga Mossberg 500 at 13.
I see nothing wrong with these kids learning to handle a firearm responsibly. Better than being like the rest of the UK and shiatting themselves at the mere thought of someone (even cops) having a firearm.
/varsity rifle team in high school
Yea me too. 22 smurf in boyscouts and 12 gauge with my dad. I can't remember how old I was but I was pretty young. I remember I was a pretty good shot with a 92fs inox for a kid.
Ablejack
2012-01-20 05:05:12 AM
The Brits do produce some of the finest shotguns in the world.
/just saying
ElevenBravo
2012-01-20 05:06:55 AM
base935
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Came here for the Columbine references.
/Leaving disappointed.
COLUMBINE COLUMBINE COLUMBINE !!!
RatMaster999
2012-01-20 05:15:09 AM
ElevenBravo
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RatMaster999: Started shooting cans with a .22 when I was three (needed to rest it on folded jacket).
Started shooting bows (crappy little plastic thing) and pistols (Walther PP and Ruger Security Six) at seven.
Started shooting shotguns (semi-auto 12ga) at 11 and was given a 12ga Mossberg 500 at 13.
I see nothing wrong with these kids learning to handle a firearm responsibly. Better than being like the rest of the UK and shiatting themselves at the mere thought of someone (even cops) having a firearm.
/varsity rifle team in high school
Yea me too. 22 smurf in boyscouts and 12 gauge with my dad. I can't remember how old I was but I was pretty young. I remember I was a pretty good shot with a 92fs inox for a kid.
Yeah, did both rifle and shotgun (and archery) at BSA camps. Went on to teach archery and help run the rifle range at yet another camp (Camp Bomazeen, Belgrade Lakes, ME) when I was older. Dad also happened to bee our troop's rifle and shotgun merit badge councilor when I was a kid, so I 'd help him teach the other boys.
/Got a 92FS (not inox) sitting int he desk next to me
MoronLessOff
2012-01-20 05:17:18 AM
ElevenBravo
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base935: Came here for the Columbine references.
/Leaving disappointed.
COLUMBINE COLUMBINE COLUMBINE !!!
Pico's revenge!
GuidoDelConfuso
2012-01-20 05:18:45 AM
I started hunting rhinoceroses with an M61 Vulcan when I was only twenty minutes old. No biggie.
Adolf Oliver Nipples
2012-01-20 05:22:35 AM
Ablejack
:
The Brits do produce some of the finest shotguns in the world.
/just saying
Yeah, and then they sell them to us and proceed to turn around and criticize us for our "gun culture" they they profit from. HYPOCRITES!
See, I'm hip to the plan, Brits. You want to kill us off so you can come back and take over again. I'm onto you now, Limeys.
ManicParroT
2012-01-20 05:28:54 AM
Bad subby, this is Fark. In any situation, more guns are always better, and suggesting otherwise is to reveal yourself as a libtard nanny-state loving bleedhing heart with no grasp of how the real world works. Didn't you get the memo? Turn in your Fark account at the door.
Bigjohn3592
2012-01-20 05:43:46 AM
Anybody else notice how there wasn't even one mishap referenced to support the need to stop these horrible kids? Oh, right. It's the daily mail. Tag must be for the author of this stupid article
Type40
2012-01-20 05:48:32 AM
Am I the only one who is not now and really never was interested in guns, even as a kid?
/I like archery though.
Day_Old_Dutchie
2012-01-20 05:50:37 AM
It's the
adults
you need to worry about.
BLAM!
(new window)
KrispyKritter
2012-01-20 06:01:28 AM
silly subby. these children now know how to safely handle firearms. don't look at the UK and freak out over USA gun related crime statistics. most of our arseholes using guns in crimes are not hard working, tax paying, permit carrying legitimate firearms owners. they are scumbag street thugs, hoods and no-goodskis.
education & awareness is a good thing, subby.
BarbadoSlim
2012-01-20 06:09:36 AM
I sure don't want unlicensed shotgun wielding 10-year olds.
tomWright
2012-01-20 06:12:40 AM
Cyno01
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OH MY GOD, GUNS! EVERYONE PANIC AND shiat YOUR PANTS!!!!!11112@@@!!!!!ELEVENTY11!!!!! !
[i.imgur.com image 640x640]
you win the hysterical gif award.
/keeping that one
On-Off
2012-01-20 06:22:14 AM
Well, I learned to shoot at a young age too, but at a range and with a 22.
Of course supervised.
Children should not hunt, even most adults don't do it responsively and lot of accidents happen.
And whoever give something with such a brutal recoil as a shotgun or a garand to a 7 year old is an asshole.
Jon iz teh kewl
2012-01-20 06:26:40 AM
SAYYYY WHAT U WANT
/JUST TELL ME
DOOOO OWHAT U FEEL
/JUST DO IT
STAYYYYY WHO U ARE
/IT'LL BE ALRIGHT.
jmadisonbiii
2012-01-20 06:37:09 AM
What a douche. Unless they have a real problem with shooty 7-10 year olds. I had a .22 and .410 by first grade.
Nick Nostril
2012-01-20 06:43:52 AM
The pussification continues, unabated.
jaybeezey
2012-01-20 07:13:08 AM
Bigjohn3592
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Anybody else notice how there wasn't even one mishap referenced to support the need to stop these horrible kids? Oh, right. It's the daily mail. Tag must be for the author of this stupid article
Yeah, I kept reading the article looking for the numbers but all they could come up with is "Panic!".
Dictatorial_Flair
2012-01-20 07:17:18 AM
I started shooting (with supervision, obviously) when I was six. It's really easy to teach a kid basic gun safety and have it stick.
dittybopper
2012-01-20 07:20:01 AM
PacManDreaming
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FTA: "Between 2008 and 2010, a total of 281 children aged 11 and under were granted licences - one of them as young as seven."
Feh...I was shooting guns before I was 10 years old. If you learn gun safety and responsibility when you're young, it usually sticks with you for the rest of your life.
In fact, that's precisely when you want to get them started, highly supervised of course. You want to get to them before they develop a teenage 'I know it all already' attitude.
The littlebopper is getting his first real gun on his birthday in a few weeks. I can't wait. When I took him shooting, he loved it, and you always remember your first gun. I still have mine, in fact. It's an old Marlin bolt action .22. I've had other guns, some much nicer, come and go, but I hold on to that one.
Wert789
2012-01-20 07:23:45 AM
It's not the people who go through the hassles to get licensed you have to worry about. They have demonstrated they are law biding.
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