Sin_City_Superhero: Prior to the prolifiration of refrigeration, the most widely consumed meat in the U.S. was pigeon meat. True story.

With rising power costs and 'patriotic' American businessmen selling every bit of food they can lay their grubby little hands on to the Chinese, I expect pigeon will make a comeback pretty soon.

"You're taking me to a new home? Goody! I'll get my things!"

Lawyer J. Noble Daggett of Dardanelle, Arkansas will not let her get away with selling those horses for disposal.

I HATE reading sad stories about fillies on Philly.com.

skinink: Lawyer J. Noble Daggett of Dardanelle, Arkansas will not let her get away with selling those horses for disposal.


Damn right.

J. Noble Daggett is a lawyer of true grit.

Sin_City_Superhero: Prior to the prolifiration of refrigeration, the most widely consumed meat in the U.S. was pigeon meat. True story.


Carrier pigeons were replaced with Carrier refrigeration units.

Craigslist is full of "free to good home"horses that are no longer workable due to injury or temperment- I bet a lot of them end up in abattoirs.

The law is idiotic. Horse meat is consumed in many countries. It's a necessary ingredient of a proper dry salami. It provides texture that no beef or pork does. I say, get off your high horse

Muscles Glasses approves

Horse meat is bad?

What do you people think pepperoni is made from?

Several of my Quebecois buddies insist that the horsemeat here comes from animals specifically bred and reared for consumption. Can't wait to share this.

If it were my pony, I draw and quarter the biatch.


Yes, I used buddies, bred and reared in the same post. Go ahead.

Mixolydian Master: RexTalionis: It's against the law, but it's a pretty stupid law that speaks to the tendency of Americans to protect only the cuddly animals.

Horsemeat was just recently legalized for consumption in the states. But you DRTFA. This woman told people she was going to find someone to adopt their horses after racing, then turned around and sold them to a slaughterhouse. That's what she is in trouble for. they weren't even slaughtered and consumed in America.

It wasn't legalized in the states.

Sin_City_Superhero: Prior to the prolifiration of refrigeration, the most widely consumed meat in the U.S. was pigeon meat. True story.

Indeed. City dwellers used to keep pigeon coops on the roofs of their apartment houses, for a cheap source of protein. But once they could get battery-farmed chicken (and trimmed pieces thereof) for cheap, most of them turned their pigeons out, leading to the scourge of winged rats we know and love today.

RandomTux: The law is idiotic. Horse meat is consumed in many countries. It's a necessary ingredient of a proper dry salami. It provides texture that no beef or pork does. I say, get off your high horse


Have had horse many times in Southern France. Delicious.

Mixolydian Master: Cowboy Spencer: Mixolydian Master: RexTalionis: It's against the law, but it's a pretty stupid law that speaks to the tendency of Americans to protect only the cuddly animals.

Horsemeat was just recently legalized for consumption in the states. But you DRTFA. This woman told people she was going to find someone to adopt their horses after racing, then turned around and sold them to a slaughterhouse. That's what she is in trouble for. they weren't even slaughtered and consumed in America.

It wasn't legalized in the states.

O'RLY?

Horse slaughter plants are legal again in the United States. Restrictions on horse meat processing for human consumption have been lifted

In a bipartisan effort, the House of Representatives and the United States Senate approved the Conference Committee report on spending bill H2112, which among other things, funds the United States Department of Agriculture. On November 18th, as the country was celebrating Thanksgiving, President Obama signed a law, allowing Americans to kill and eat horses. Essentially, one turkey was pardoned in the presence of worldwide media while in the shadows, buried under pages of fiscal regulation, millions of horses were sentenced to death.

Horse slaughter has been prohibited in the United States as funding for inspections of horses in transit and at slaughter houses was non-existent. This worked because the horse meat cannot be sold for human consumption without such inspections. The House version of the bill retained the de-funding language and the Senate version did not. The conference committee charged with reconciling the two opted to not include it. The result is that it is now legal to slaughter horses for humans to eat.

Notwithstanding that 70% of Americans oppose horse slaughter, that President Obama made a campaign promise to permanently ban horse slaughter and exports of horses for human consumption (horses can be sent to Mexico and Canada), that documentation of animal cruelty, slaughterhouse s ...

What whiny biatch wrote that? Yeesh. There's too many horses. Eating them will fix that. Besides, since the motorcycle was invented, horses really haven't been good for much else, other than having their hides made into jackets.

All those pups and kittens on craigslist
/Snake food
\Yes I am a asshole

But are they horse fed for that double horse goodness?

Mixolydian Master: Cowboy Spencer: Mixolydian Master: RexTalionis: It's against the law, but it's a pretty stupid law that speaks to the tendency of Americans to protect only the cuddly animals.

Horsemeat was just recently legalized for consumption in the states. But you DRTFA. This woman told people she was going to find someone to adopt their horses after racing, then turned around and sold them to a slaughterhouse. That's what she is in trouble for. they weren't even slaughtered and consumed in America.

It wasn't legalized in the states.

O'RLY?

Horse slaughter plants are legal again in the United States. Restrictions on horse meat processing for human consumption have been lifted

In a bipartisan effort, the House of Representatives and the United States Senate approved the Conference Committee report on spending bill H2112, which among other things, funds the United States Department of Agriculture. On November 18th, as the country was celebrating Thanksgiving, President Obama signed a law, allowing Americans to kill and eat horses. Essentially, one turkey was pardoned in the presence of worldwide media while in the shadows, buried under pages of fiscal regulation, millions of horses were sentenced to death.

Horse slaughter has been prohibited in the United States as funding for inspections of horses in transit and at slaughter houses was non-existent. This worked because the horse meat cannot be sold for human consumption without such inspections. The House version of the bill retained the de-funding language and the Senate version did not. The conference committee charged with reconciling the two opted to not include it. The result is that it is now legal to slaughter horses for humans to eat.

Notwithstanding that 70% of Americans oppose horse slaughter, that President Obama made a campaign promise to permanently ban horse slaughter and exports of horses for human consumption (horses can be sent to Mexico and Canada), that documentation of animal cruelty, slaughterhouse stench, fluid runoff and negative community impact exists, it is taxpayers that will bear the costs!

Wyoming state representative Sue Wallis and her pro-slaughter group estimate that between 120,000 and 200,000 horses will be killed for human consumption per year and that Oregon, Idaho, Wyoming, Montana, Nebraska, North Dakota, Georgia and Missouri, are considering opening slaughter plants.

During these trying times, is the only thing that Democrats and Republicans can agree on is that Americans need to eat horses?





Yum!

Selling horse meat for human consumption is not legal in the states, and slaughter wasn't recently legalized. USDA inspectors are required at these plants, and opponents of horse slaughter were able to get those inspectors defunded for. a while. However, funding was reinstated during conference committee. The meat from those slaughter houses can only be sold overseas.

forgotmydamnusername: What whiny biatch wrote that? Yeesh. There's too many horses. Eating them will fix that. Besides, since the motorcycle was invented, horses really haven't been good for much else, other than having their hides made into jackets.

B-b-b-b-b-ut Black Beauty!

/never really got the "thing" about horses

mr_a: Certainly this woman is guilty of lying, and probably fraud as well...but the sad fact remains. Thoroughbred horses, even at their best, have a career that is pretty much over after four or five years. A small percentage are profitably used for breeding, but the vast majority are not.

That leaves a large population of horses with a good 15 or more years of life left. It can cost thousands of dollars per year to keep a horse, especially if it has any health problems. And racing thoroughbreds can be somewhat hot-blooded, making them less than ideal for some owners.

While I find the idea of slaughtering horses repulsive, I have also been involved with horse rescue organizations, and have seen first-hand what can happen to horses who are not properly cared for. In some cases, a slaughterhouse might have been a much more humane solution.

The sad fact is, we breed many more horses than the country has a stable for.

I know it's farked up, but the thought of having stray horses in our cities is absolutely delightful to me.

Cowboy Spencer: Selling horse meat for human consumption is not legal in the states, and slaughter wasn't recently legalized. USDA inspectors are required at these plants, and opponents of horse slaughter were able to get those inspectors defunded for. a while. However, funding was reinstated during conference committee. The meat from those slaughter houses can only be sold overseas.

Why? Do you consider this a good or a bad thing?
Also, wiki doesn't mention that it HAS to be for export, though it does mention that many horses are treated with medicines that make them ineligible for human consumption(for life), and that since they aren't raised for meat, the medicines used aren't tracked, nor do the horses necessarily have the correct withdrawal times even for medicines that have them(X time from last dose to permissible slaughter for human consumption).

Mixolydian Master: Notwithstanding that 70% of Americans oppose horse slaughter, that President Obama made a campaign promise to permanently ban horse slaughter and exports of horses for human consumption (horses can be sent to Mexico and Canada), that documentation of animal cruelty, slaughterhouse st ...

Looking at the wiki page, it's legal as of November 18, 2011.

On the other hand, I have a couple problems:
1. I believe that the 70% that oppose horse slaughter do so out of ignorance and desire to protect 'cuddly animals'. I'm suprised that eating rabbit isn't banned. It's probably even higher for dog, but there are regions in the world where it's considered standard, and there are even dog breeds specifically for eating.
2. Who says that slaughterhouse cruelty is worse than the cruelty that results towards horses rendered 'worthless' due to the ban? It's not like saving ~$600* on the purchase price of a horse is that big of a deal compared when keeping a horse properly costs in the thousands per year. I remember reading of quite a few incidents.

*you have to beat the meat buyer at auction
mr_a: While I find the idea of slaughtering horses repulsive, I have also been involved with horse rescue organizations, and have seen first-hand what can happen to horses who are not properly cared for. In some cases, a slaughterhouse might have been a much more humane solution.

Indeed. I remember a story on this. You see, when slaughtering horses for human consumption was legal, it put a floor on the value of a horse - what it could be sold to the slaughterhouses for. At 800-1200 lb and like 50 cents a pound, that's $400-600. Given that money, a person who's no longer willing to take care of a horse can sell it to a meat buyer(worst case), and that horse is removed from the pool. There's only so many people willing to take care of a horse right, and their number(and the number of horses they can support) declines during down years.

Also, with horses having a price floor, fewer people who are unable/unwilling to do proper upkeep is going to obtain one.

There are three kinds of animals on this earth: wild animals, pets, and livestock.

Wild horses are wild. Domesticated horses are livestock. Livestock are animals that are specifically bred to work for, and more often to die for, the purpose of man. It is noble to attempt to avoid unnecessary cruelty in exerting our dominion over livestock.

If you think it's cruel to slaughter horses for meat, are you also a vegan? Do you also refrain from riding horses since this activity implies support of breeding animals for man's purpose? If you can answer yes to both, then your morals are consistent with objection to horse slaughtering.

Otherwise, you have no right to object.

I'm not against eating horse meat. I think it's no more wrong than eating beef, pork, poultry and any of the other meats commonly accepted by our culture. And that people who are OK with eating one kind of meat but not another are hypocrites. But to take an animal that was bought with the promise that it would be re-homed and selling it for slaughter is just wrong.